/improve/ - Self Improvement

I do not like these personality type tests. They seemed specifically written with the type of anxious, socially awkward audience in mind; people who are self conscious and who would seek the affirmation of a test to determine who they are.

You take the test and see questions that read "You do not usually initiate conversations." or "You find it difficult to introduce yourself to other people." and suddenly with a heavy heart you'd click "strongly agree" and feel bad for yourself and say to yourself "I guess that I'm just not good in social situations". The same goes for questions that actually say "You rarely do something just out of sheer curiosity." and if you happen to not be assertive and "You rarely feel insecure." If you ever happen to feel insecure. This is almost pointless self-evaluation which can leave you in a bad mood. It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy as you continue to agree with these tests about things about your personality.

So I say take the test and choose the personality you want. Be assertive, a social butterfly, determined, stoic or whatever you really want. It might not be true yet, but it is a better way to start than clicking than finding affirmation of your current self from what is an arbitrary test.

>>4950

It's a shame they changed the horse riding commander with a thatcher like sjw.

Also, while I agree with you that the test is not truly accurate and based on flux of current mood and emotion, i think it is definitely accurate in pointing you in the right direction of your base personality.

According to that test, I'm an INTP/Logician.

I can relate to most of what I've read so far. Especially this part resonates with me:

>The one thing that really holds INTPs back is their restless and pervasive fear of failure. INTP personalities are so prone to reassessing their own thoughts and theories, worrying that they've missed some critical piece of the puzzle, that they can stagnate, lost in an intangible world where their thoughts are never truly applied.

That's basically what I've been fighting with my entire life. I put too much thought into things and that keeps me from taking action. I gotta learn to follow the way of the Shia and just do it.

INTP, interesting. I seem to bounce between INTJ and INTP depending on my mood when I take the test. Some of this is interesting to read…like, wait, other people aren't having endless debates in their head's?!

INTP really sits with me though. Some of this doesn't ring 100% true anymore, as I've really been working on my extroverted and feeling sides to try and round myself out a bit. Even my J/P flip-flopping is due to intentionally trying not to be such a judgmental prick anymore (I know that isn't what the J is really about, but…I'm still a judgmental prick)

…INTPs pride themselves on their inventiveness and creativity, their unique perspective and vigorous intellect. Usually known as the philosopher, the architect, or the dreamy professor…

Philosopher here.

The Unexamined Life Is Not Worth Living

INTPs are known for their brilliant theories and unrelenting logic – in fact, they are considered the most logically precise of all the personality types.

They love patterns, and spotting discrepancies between statements could almost be described as a hobby, making it a bad idea to lie to an INTP. This makes it ironic that INTPs' word should always be taken with a grain of salt – it's not that they are dishonest, but people with the INTP personality type tend to share thoughts that are not fully developed, using others as a sounding board for ideas and theories in a debate against themselves rather than as actual conversation partners.

That is, when we can find someone who will actually hold a fucking intellectual conversation for more than 5 minutes without their eyes glossing over.

This may make them appear unreliable, but in reality no one is more enthusiastic and capable of spotting a problem, drilling through the endless factors and details that encompass the issue and developing a unique and viable solution than INTPs – just don't expect punctual progress reports.

This makes work hard for me, especially when the most viable solution is rejected for other bullshit reasons (politics, etc). Also, punctual progress reports fucking suck. Trust that I'm getting my shit done, boss!

People who share the INTP personality type aren't interested in practical, day-to-day activities and maintenance,

This is so bad for me I have to track this shit in Excel, or I forget to do the "dailies". Habitica works too, although I don't like the gamification.

Wisdom Begins in Wonder

They may appear to drift about in an unending daydream, but INTPs' thought process is unceasing, and their minds buzz with ideas from the moment they wake up. This constant thinking can have the effect of making them look pensive and detached, as they are often conducting full-fledged debates in their own heads, but really INTPs are quite relaxed and friendly when they are with people they know, or who share their interests. However, this can be replaced by overwhelming shyness when INTP personalities are among unfamiliar faces, and friendly banter can quickly become combative if they believe their logical conclusions or theories are being criticized.

Here is the introvertedness. Get me around a small group of people I know and like and I'm very friendly, funny, sociable. Get me in a crowd or with strangers? No thanks, clam right up.

When INTPs are particularly excited, the conversation can border on incoherence as they try to explain the daisy-chain of logical conclusions that led to the formation of their latest idea. Oftentimes, INTPs will opt to simply move on from a topic before it's ever understood what they were trying to say, rather than try to lay things out in plain terms.

This fucking sucks. I come of as manic and slightly off-kilter, when in fact I'm just giddy and excited for finally solving whatever my current philosophical puzzle is. :/

'The reverse can also be true when people explain their thought processes to INTPs in terms of subjectivity and feeling. Imagine an immensely complicated clockwork, taking in every fact and idea possible, processing them with a heavy dose of creative reasoning and returning the most logically sound results available – this is how the INTP mind works, and this type has little tolerance for an emotional monkey-wrench jamming their machines.''

Not so much for me anymore, I get feelies now.

I got this. I think it's pretty true since I can be a very strong driving force in projects and whip people into shape and get them to march in unison to a goal.

I got ENFP

It's definitely me, but I don't know how to use this to my advantage

I've known myself as an ENFJ for some time, but only through my recent self-improvement I started reaping the benefits of it

Step aside plebs, master race coming through.

Socionics ILI-Te

>>4949

I can switch to any type at will.

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>>5013

Can my fellow INTPs relate?

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>translation

>mix of dutch/french/english

>datum = date

>dag = day

>studie = study (what I need to study)

>activiteit = activiteit

>KG = kilogram

>looptijd = running time

>zo weinig mogelijk schermen = limit use of anything with a screen

>nog in the halen = to catch up

> manieren om extra geld

> Triangel = some psy company where I live and some extra notes

> Koude douche = cold shower

I found out some anon that uses excel to track his progress and to do list for the day. I'm like my own boss and servant at the same time. One-four times a month I plan my following week(s).

First off why excel? Excel has everything ITP’s like us love. You can write little notes, make graphs, easy organized in cells/tables multiple sheets, can insert pictures, form graphs, calculate and easily modifiable.

You can base your method of tracking yourself of my pics or form your own technique. I made 3 sheets with one for day to day stuff I need to do. The second sheet is basically all extra stuff I need to remember in the long run. Lastly the third sheet is the history of everything I did all those months/years

The first sheet I have put myself two subjects I need to study for university, an extra activity (trying to keep up with normie news, abstain from a vice; your choice) and the type of sport I should be doing. Once I start my day I try to finish up what’s on my list and mark success/failure in the checkup columns. Lastly I try to track my weight and running time.

The second sheet is stuff I need to think of when I plan my day2day sheet and extra information. One column tells me what I need to catch up in my studies (because I failed to study it). Other column is ways to make money and to study it and some psychology exam I need to attend.

The third sheet is just a history of the day2day stuff. As you can see I didn’t start as to where I’m now. I didn’t try to exercise and track my time and didn’t track my weight which I know do. So you can add whatever you want to track.

I would like to remind that you can have your pc open up excel automatically and have excel open your self-improvement file so you remember you need to work on it immediately. Also if you’re NEET or just have difficulties following through you better start off with one thing you want to work on every day. I started immediately with 3 stuff to work on a day and I never succeeded in finishing my day with everything done so start small and add whatever you want as you move on.

>>5005

Same here.

Seems to be more than a few INTP's here, and on imageboard in general.

Not that I'm surprised at all.