/int/ - 72% opinion

Russian.

Germany is committing a suicide this very moment.

>>314888

Hitler trips speak the truth.

>>314912

>implying I saved the urls

>>314915

I have to admit i laughed when i watched the webm

>>314915

Finally watched the webm. Hilarious.

german by a long shot. industry in eastern europe including russia is german and headed by germans..

>>314943

And they speak English and Russian there.

Russian wins, but German is still useful.

>>314866

interesting question, i tend to say russian because it should have way more speakers than german has. so if you go by the sheer numbers the choice is simple.

a quick wiki search gave me 90 mio native speakers vs 260 mio native speakers in favor of the russian speakers.

>>314888

>mah hitler

>mah degeneracy

keep fucking that chicken m8

>>314915

Damn friendo. Talk about teading someone a new asshole. Sont show that to /pol/ or they might have another autism episode

>>314866

I suppose the only one language have the universal utility - English. Others are relative. It doesn't matter how many people speak a certain language, is matter by whom we intended to speak and where to live.

For me, german is preferable because the Russian I already know. But if I was a german I could like to learn Russian for the simply curiosity. But I doubt that is very useful.

>>315134

It is man. Especially if relations between Russia and the West normalize.

They are an economically growing power (even with the crysis they are still modernizing), and a great market.

Not to mention that by knowing Russian you can now communicate in countries of the former Soviet Union that usually have less English knowledge.

German is mainly only useful if you emigrate to Germany.

Btw off-topic

How's life in the Ukraine lately?

>>315138

I suppose if you doing business in post-Soviet countries you can find English-speakers easily. I sincerely can't find an essential advantage for knowledge of Russian. If you aren't Ben Grylls in Siberia, maybe.

>>315138

>How's life in the Ukraine lately?

Shitty. The inflation grew three times for last two years in time when the wages the same. The government is even more corrupt then before. The jingoism is everywhere. Last year we painted almost every surface in the colors of our national flag. And war, increase of crime, mobilization, etc.

>>315150

Btw I am going to use this off-topic to ask what are your predictions for Ukraine's future.

Thanks.

Objectively? Russian. It's simpler, however this comes at the cost, that cohension with certain concepts is lost by context outside content.

See evidence:

Моя кошка добрым тостером.

Meine Katze ist ein gut Toaster.

My cat is a nice toaster.

In Russian, people understand you mean your cat likes to position itself next to the toaster for heat, because your cat is not a functional toaster.

>>315134

Ось отлічний анґлійські товаріш, дуже!

>>315138

>How's life in the Ukraine lately?

It's actually great, even in the east. Especially in the east, one could say. What you need to understand to understand the "so-called crisis" is that the government of Ukraine is entirely to blame for the continuingly very disgrunted atmosphere, the more and more pro-Russian the people become, the more and more the government suppresses them with anti-Russian propaganda… If you know the first thing about the situation in Ukraine, before the "Russian invasion", you would know that it is NOT AN INVASION. IT IS NOT A WAR. Russia started to get involved only after the situation had become so bad internally that the government had banned ANYTHING that even resembles tolerance of Russia, and started to censor more and more things. This had been going on for years, increasingly, and it got progressively worse since 2004 when Yushchenko took over as president. He was a dictator, as was his successor. Poroshenko is the first non-dictator Ukraine has had in a decade, however he's not a good president either…

Now consider the fact we as a nation have so much insecurity, in our nationality, if you take one step into nationalism you HAVE to go full marathon because the average Ukrainian is an insecure little child afraid of Big Brother Russia so much that they aren't going to defend their family from crime if the criminals are Russian, out of fear they will be persecuted by the Russian government that has a lot of personal non-political influence over Ukraine and Ukrainians. When the first Ukrainian protestors who didn't love Russia, who didn't want to be cucks for Russia, but who also didn't want to suck Ukraine's shit government's dick started, they were silenced with arrests and detaining, etc. and things kept escalating until 2014. Now add the international hatred for Russia, and you have a disaster in the mix because everyone is forced to choose if they want to be Putiniggers or Ukrainiggers, that only can lead to disasters no matter what happens.

When Ukrainian anti-government militant groups began to form, between 2004-2014, most were ignored by the government AND the media because the media was increasingly censored by the government and the government of course didn't want people to join them, so they suppressed any mention of them even existing pretty much, so much that when Putin tried to bring international attention on the issue (of course his reason to do it is different from what the right reason should be, but it's better than nothing), he was insistently called bullshit by everyone everywhere. There were no Russian military in Ukraine before March 2014, before that it was all the beginnings of a civil war. Russia came to help the Ukrainian military to fight against the insurgent militant groups, but Americant's and others were retarded and thought it was an illegal invasion, which of course the Ukrainian government lapped up being the backstabbing cucks they are, hoping to gain clay from Rostov, Belgorod, Voronezh, etc.

All that, AND on top we have Naryzhenko and other loons trying to get into politics who want Ukraine and Belarus to merge to form a new Russia, replacing the Russian Federation as the legitimate Russia, and other bullshit, and it's dismissed even more by the media and people and government than rebel groups who become militant because the delusional new Russia faggots are braindead armchair activists at least and at most they used to be spoilt as fuck brat members of the government in the Soviet Union who are now retired after marrying girls that could be their granddaughter…

Worldwide, its obviously English.

But Japanese will serve you well if you want to go to a country that isn't multicucktural like ours

>>314888

Your post can get you a life sentence in Germoney

>>315225

OP did not ask about English at all. Also, what motivation do you have to want to move to Japan?

>>315218

Seems like a clusterfuck. I've never really payed much attention to the situation in Ukraine, i really know nothing about it although it's starting to interest me.

Is the crime really bad in Ukraine? Is that meme girl in the OP pic, did she actually do good things? I vaguely remember hearing that she took on some Ukraine mafia or something.

You think those neo-russia guys will actually accomplish anything? Or are they just slowing down progress?

>>315229

>OP did not ask about English at all. Also, what motivation do you have to want to move to Japan?

I suppose it's not useful to compare objectively two regional languages, such as Russian and German. Their usefulness strongly depends from the region you are. At least one can compare the number of native speakers, but for me it pointless (in such perspective the Chinese is more useful than English, but it isn't true).

>Is the crime really bad in Ukraine? Is that meme girl in the OP pic, did she actually do good things?

Pretty bad, if you to consider the impoverishment of the people and the spreading of weapons throughout the country. Almost EVERY DAY someone blows up himself or others with a hand grenade. Robbery, theft, murder also pretty spread. But, sincerely, the situation isn't awfully terrible, although it is heading in that direction.

Poklonskaya is the Crimean main prosecutor. I don't know about her achievements but doubt its such large. Her major attainment is her appearance.

>You think those neo-russia guys will actually accomplish anything? Or are they just slowing down progress?

I think these guys are like our thieves in the government, but with pro-Russian attitude. Slavs cannot in (seemingly) the effective and non-corrupt government.

>>315218

What? "Моя кошка добрый тостер" I suppose. Whatever its meaning. I don't know about german (there also is ending as I know) but the ending and suffix must be the pain in the ass for the westerners which learning Russian.

>had banned ANYTHING that even resembles tolerance of Russia

Not. After they took the power, they had abolished a law about the Russian language in Ukraine. It was a useless law, but the "Svoboda" party (wannabe-nazi) had done it anyway. I would not say that in Ukraine the right of Russians are suppressed, many of the Ukrainian right-wing groups speak Russian etc.

>He was a dictator, as was his successor.

We hadn't ANY dictators. We have the oligarchs and their clans. ANY president - is simply a puppet. Yanukovich had been removed because he tried to enlarge his share the expense of others.

>Russia came to help the Ukrainian military to fight against the insurgent militant groups,

What?! The war had began as civilian, it's true, but Russia at first had send the weapons and thereafter some of their troops to back up their allies/puppets - the pro-russian rebels.

>>315192

>by March 2016, Odessa will begin to have serious violent protests involving Moldovan and Romanian minorities clashing at the border tripoint

>by June 2016, the new Russia is again in the political fight for independence, and Dnipropetrovsk Oblast officially joins Donetsk and Luhansk; it is recognised by the Russian Federation collectively as an autonomous region

>by July 2016, Tsarov will be elected as the prime minister of Donetsk and he will be tried to be assassinated, however it will fail and he will continue with politics and uses the victim card to get more support

>by August 2016, people will start taking Naryzhenko seriously after he's arrested for hate speech or something, finally getting the attention he's failed to get since the beginning of time

>by September 2016, Transnistria is recognised as an independent nation by the new Russia, to lubricate them for the incoming penetration from Odessa

>by January 2017, Moldova declares war on Transnistria and requests international help

>by March 2017, Romania and Moldova will be having border security problems, lots of murder and rape going on, also militant organisations will emerge as Moldovan nationalists want to enforce identity

>by July 2017, the Romania-Moldova issue has spread to Ukraine and the border area conflicts are merged

>by August 2017, Russia will send troops to Moldova to smash the nationalist movement that wants Transnistria back

>by October 2017, Tsarov will be elected the president of the new Russia, and he will be supported by majority for freedom of speech and other somewhat less extremist views than his competitors

>by November 2017, Tsarov will sign a law that makes it illegal to criticise the military; critics will be voided of their citizenship

>by December 2017, there will be already a serious war going on in Odessa between Moldova and Ukraine with Romania neither supporting either or explicitly opposing, however Hungary will start deploying military around the Romanian border for training in case they're threatened

>by June 2018, nationalist Hungarian militant groups will be trying to get their Transylvania clay and that brings the Hungarian military and Romanian military to interfere heavily together

>by August 2018, Middle Eastern refugees from 2014-2017 in Hungary will be brutally massacred by the military because they are perceived as a potential threat of rebellion

>by September 2018, the same happens in Romania by non-government militants

>by October 2018, the surviving refugees from Hungary will refuge to western Ukraine, not welcomed by the nationalists who will inspire islamist extremism to rise as a reaction to the prejudice

>by November 2018, Tsarov will recognise Naryzhenko as a good author of propaganda, awarding him and giving him a job in the government; spread of the propaganda of new Russian legitimacy will reach a new height

>by December 2018, Yanukovych gets back into serious politic legitimacy and is elected president of Ukraine, because he will be having issues with Tsarov, etc.

>by January 2019, Ukraine is in a full blown civil war everywhere, including islamic terrorists bombing and beheading civilians in rural regions of the west

>by June 2019, Kiev will experience a massive terrorist attack that ISIS claims, and Tsarov is assassinated by Yanukovych's order

>by October 2019, Putin will recognise the new Russia as an independent nation under the agreement that it is called Russian Confederation, not new Russia

>by January 2020, ????

>>315244

>"Моя кошка добрый тостер" I suppose

Hahahaha… I wish you could see my face and the handprint permanently imprinted upon it. You literally missed the point so far, the point ceased to exist. Do you use your cat as a toaster? The point was that the sentence was technically wrong while being correct, implying the cat is a functional toaster while it is not. Context. CONTEXT. I know you didn't mean it that way but in this context, interpreted along with what I said, what you said is like saying "my cat is a toaster but I don't use it as a toaster" while what I said like "my cat is a toaster and I use it as a toaster". Cats are not functional toasters, so calling your cat a toaster is wrong. If you use your cat as a toaster, you're doing it wrong. Imagine if you heard somebody say "моя кошка добрым тостером", wouldn't your brain automatically interpret it to mean that the person uses his cat as a toaster? That is lost in "моя кошка добрый тостер".

>troops to back up their allies/puppets - the pro-russian rebels

Whoa there buddy.

>Ukraine is not Russian clay

This is what Ukrainiggers actually believe. I'm no Putinigger but Ukraine and Russia DO have good relations even if you don't want to see it. "Helping pro-Russian rebels" is literally helping Ukraine even if it's at a cost; your implication is that there is only one group of rebels and they are all a happy family. This is wrong. There are so many, I'm sure you'd know if you weren't such an Ukrainigger.

>>315275

>I know you didn't mean it that way but in this context, interpreted along with what I said, what you said is like saying "my cat is a toaster but I don't use it as a toaster" while what I said like "my cat is a toaster and I use it as a toaster".

>look at me I don't know how slavic languages work

come on, you really have nothing better to do than post as ebin rareflags on /int/, using google translate and wikipedia as your sources on speaking foreign languages?

>>315275

>>315276

this is the second time I caught you doing that here

>>313149

>>315276

>>315277

>Slovenia

>knowing how Slavic languages work

Choose one or kill yourself. You're not Slavic. You're Italian.

>>315278

m8. you're using instrumental case, and you thing if you put a word in instrumental case then you use it as an instrument.

it doesn't work like that — if anything, you're saying that your cat is doing something with a good toaster

>>315227

>implying i give a shit

They will never take me alive

>>315279

>you're using instrumental case

Obviously…

>and you thing if you put a word in instrumental case then you use it as an instrument

That's exactly what the instrumental case is. If that's not how it works in your autistic Italian mongrel tongue, Slovenian is more retarded than I thought.

>it doesn't work like that — if anything, you're saying that your cat is doing something with a good toaster

That's not instrumental case. You're an idiot. If you think that's how instrumental case works, it's like you think genitive case means the word is in the case is owned by something. That is retarded.

>>315281

>it's like you think genitive case means the word is in the case is owned by something. nah it's more like thinking that if oyu say something in nominative then add something in genitive then the word in nominative owns you. That is retarded.

Why is it that Russian and Ukraine girls are so mean?

I thought it was just a stereotype but i saw a compilation video of them bullying others (on the extreme side of things) and kicking the shit out of eachother.

>>315289

>Why is it that Russian and Ukraine girls are so mean?

I don't have that impression of them, quite the opposite. They are usually more direct though, that I can tell you. But I consider that a good thing.

>I thought it was just a stereotype but i saw a compilation video of them bullying others (on the extreme side of things) and kicking the shit out of eachother.

American girls are worse, from what I see online.

Did you know the most successful marriages in Switzerland are with "mail order" brides from Eastern Europe or Asia? Same thing in the US.

Interesting subject.

German is more relevant and popular than Russian, so German is more useful.

>>315292

I wish i could find the compilation i was talking about.

My original impression of them was good. However those videos… Well it's never a good idea to generalize based off of some videos anyway.

>Did you know the most successful marriages in Switzerland are with "mail order" brides from Eastern Europe or Asia? Same thing in the US.

I didn't actually. Successful? That suprises me. I always thought those types of things were kind of scams. And if not, the wife would wait until she is legally allowed to divorce and not be kicked out of the country, So those wives pretty much end up trading a few years or so of their time to be able to become a citizen. Am i far off here?

>>314888

>muh anti-traditional left-wing (as believed by Spengler, Junger, Evola, etc.) dictator

>>315275

I suspected some internal joke in it, but I didn't get it. And still don't quite well, sincerely. But I got some point, thanks.

>I'm sure you'd know if you weren't such an Ukrainigger.

I'm not a ukrainigger or if put it better a "svidomit" (or "the self-conscious Ukrainian", for foreigners). But I don't believe that Russia had in mind to help Ukraine in it's nowadays condition. From year 1991 and so on Ukraine have becoming more and more an "anti-Russia" state. All our ideology since that time is based on the "we are NOT the Russians". And Russia while helping the pro-Russian rebels helps not to sovereign Ukraine (the essence of which is russophobia) but to some part of it. Where russians and other sympathizers are live. And now we haven't good relationships with Russia, we have the dependence of it.

>>315319

>I didn't actually. Successful? That suprises me. I always thought those types of things were kind of scams. And if not, the wife would wait until she is legally allowed to divorce and not be kicked out of the country, So those wives pretty much end up trading a few years or so of their time to be able to become a citizen. Am i far off here?

That is very frequent. But still those marriages continue to have lower divorce rates than native+native marriages, which is hilarious.

This article links to some studies and stuff: http://www.returnofkings.com/4658/dont-believe-the-lies-about-foreign-brides

Russian. Because in a few years, Germany will be a Turkish and Arabic speaking country

>>315335

>return of cucks

German if you're just beginning to learn a foreign language but I presume you have already learnt English and Swedish so go for Russian.

>>315328

>russophobia

Russorealism, fucking eastern asshole.

>muh russian asslicking

>>314866

OP should learn russian just to see what idiotic nonsense they start spewing all over the place in slvrunes.

>>314881

This.

Go back 5 years and I would have said German.

>>314916

Check your browser history.

English

Circassian :^)

>>320960

Just learn hebrew, it's the same as knowing both.

Russian.

Spitballing here, but I'd say Russian. Way more people speak it, more use for it on a larger scale, and most Germans already know English.

Russia is an economical dwarve and petro-state, suffering from Dutch disease, that is unable develope a competive economy. Russo-Western relations have been damaged for decades to come and they are not expected to normalize soon which leaves Russia politically isolated from the most important economic bloc.

German on the other hand is the language of Europe's most important and integrated economical force. Contrary to Russia, Germany has a modern and diversified economy with a relatively strong manufacturing base which is not self-evident in these times. Germany is an exporting economy which means that German companies are active all over the world, being the most popular country in the world and even enjoying good economical ties to states that are regarded with contempt in the West like China or Iran. The backbone of this economic behemoth is the so-called German 'mittelstand' small and mid-sized companies that each occupy a niche where they have the global technological edge.

And talking about those Russian girls, I can tell you from my own experience that the prettiest ones are already living and working in Germany since prostitution and brothels are completely legal here.

>>321175

>are you implying that russophobia does not exist

I'm not implying, I'm proclaiming it loudly and clearly.

>phobia - an irrational fear or distrust towards something

>distrust for Ruskies

>irrational

Pick one and only one.

Funny that you mention cultural marxism, which is a Russian invention.

>>321184

Sorry, I can't read Arab/Turkish/whatever rapefugee dialect you are typing.

>>321190

>Funny that you mention cultural marxism, which is a Russian invention.

Wrong, it's a Jewish invention. The SU/KGB used it as a weapon, abroad.

>>321200

Now, here you made a slightly better point.

But then again you are rulled by people who want to genocide you, so Russia is actually getting better while you are getting worse.

>>321196

>In some Russian regions more pregnancies are aborted than children being born

Oh yes, Magadan… I love that shithole. It's my favourite shithole in the world.

>but not mentioning the sky-high murder rates and rampant suicides

>>321199

>>321203

He's a Russian on proxy, because his ISP blocks 8chan. How many times does he and other Russians have to clear this out? Most big ISP's in Russia block 8chan, but not all.

>>321204

>He's a Russian on proxy

Tut mir leid, aber ich bin Deutscher, hier geboren und aufgewachsen.

>>321205

Ah sorry. There's one Russian who always uses German proxy, I thought you were him.

Who speaks German?

>>321232

Only one country. And it's full of cucks.

Why not both? German is shit, Russian is shit, so in order to balance out their different types of shit, it's best to learn both at the same time so that the shit of one will not overwhelm the shit of the other.

>>321279

>Only one country

You forgot Austria, Liechtenstein and Switzerland

>>321358

Shhh shh shhh

>>321352

Why are you trying to stay relevant? Germany is kill m8

>>314866

Well since you are swedish, I'd make a recommendation based on proximity: somali

>>321448

fiki fiki

>>321451

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>>321452

Fiki fiki? Fiki fiki.