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 No.319758

300 lashes for having a "wild party" in Saudi Arabia

A court in Saudi Arabia has sentenced 11 defendants to prison terms ranging from two months to one year after they were arrested in a wild party in the Red Sea city of Jeddah. The defendants – three Saudi women, three Moroccan women, three Saudi men and two Indian men- will also be given between 80 and 300 lashes, the court said in its final ruling.

Members of the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice raided the flat and rounded up the 11 after they were tipped off by residents. The suspects were using drugs and drinking alcohol as they partied, and some of the women fiercely resisted their arrest, the local media reported.

The public prosecutor charged them with possessing and taking drugs, holding a wild party, possessing immoral pictures and clips, and resisting arrest, and requested severe punishments and the confiscation of their mobile telephones. Reactions by the defendants varied between total denial and admission of the charges.

http://archive.is/ZA2hC

http://archive.is/LJH4f

 No.319802

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Drop da bomb :DDDD


 No.319813

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>>319758

>a wild party

>three Saudi women, three Moroccan women, three Saudi men and two Indian men

>women and men

>multiple nationalities

>maximum diversity

Might as well just omit "Jeddah".

Forget your European idea of what lashes are like (bare back, chained in a dungeon, bleeding from back) when it comes to Saudi lashes. Vid related is what public flogging looks like.


 No.319814

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Another vid.


 No.319816

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One more.


 No.319817

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 No.319838

>>319813

>>319814

>>319816

>bad boy. bad bad boy

what's the point of that?


 No.319842

>>319838

While it doesn't break any bones or skin, I suppose it's more of a mental thing.

Getting treated like a child in public is humiliating.


 No.319860

>>319813

Raif Badawi must have been one hell of a pussy to get his punishment postponed after the first 50 lashes then.


 No.319861

>>319860

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 No.319891

>>319860

Methodology:

According to press reports, lashings were generally administered with a thin reed by a man who must hold a book under his arm to prevent him from lifting the arm too high. The strokes, delivered through a thin shirt, are not supposed to leave permanent damage but are designed to leave painful welts that bleed and bruise. (http://archive.is/mDKs)

Physical damage:

Dr Juliet Cohen, head of doctors at Freedom from Torture, explained: "When the cane strikes, the blood is forced from the tissues beneath… Damage to the small blood vessels and individual cells causes leakage of blood and tissue fluid into the skin and underlying tissue, increasing the tension in these areas.

"The more blows are inflicted on top of one another, the more chance of open wounds being caused. This is important because they are likely to be more painful and at risk of infection, which will cause further pain over a prolonged period as infection delays the wounds' healing.

Psychological damage:

"Psychologically, flogging may cause feelings of fear, anxiety, humiliation and shame. Anticipation of the next scheduled flogging is likely to cause heightened emotions especially of fear, anxiety and difficulty sleeping… pain and fear together over a prolonged period have a deeply debilitating effect and recovery from such experiences may take considerable time," said Cohen. (http://archive.is/VqFqC)

Death

It is not unusual for victims to die of the stress. In 1846, a soldier in Britain died in the hot summer, a whole month later after being lashed with a cotton cat o’ nine tails 150 times. His body was exhumed and examined. (http://archive.is/hHG4O)

Wilson, by analysing the cutaneous layer and the organs underneath, argued, in times prior to the discovery of the effects of bacteria in the bloodstream, that there was a connection between the external lacerations caused by the lashes and the internal state of the organs. According to Wilson, the injuries resulting from flogging were confined to the skin but the flogging was followed by inflammation of the internal organs and pulpy softening of muscles.

In 1881, flogging as a punishment in the army was abolished.


 No.319892

>>319842

>Getting treated like a child in public is humiliating.

that wouldn't work well here. We are ashamed of nothing see portuguese university ritual


 No.319897

>>319892

Yeah, we are also shameless perverts for the same reasons. Even the educated ones. More likely the educated ones.


 No.319898

>>319813

L. O. L. (لول)

It's actually comical. In the western universities the activists tell us every day "these innocent WOMEN received… 10 LASHES! for wearing JEANS!" and in reality it's just some bored Aziz tapping a jellabah with a stick.

>>319758

Also, we all know what those Maghrebi women were doing there.

♫ If you see a Maghrebia ♪

♫ And we're close to Riyadh ♪

♫ She's probably making bank ♪

♫ By being a skank ♪


 No.319901

>>319891

>The more blows are inflicted on top of one another, the more chance of open wounds being caused

That's why they're spread out instead of being delivered in one spot. See vids.

>died in the hot summer, a whole month later after being lashed with a cotton cat o’ nine tails 150 times

>cat o’ nine tails

Do any of these videos look like they use that?

The cat o' nine tails is used to deliver severe physical damage, which is why they're not used.


 No.319902

>>319901

I am bemused that you seem to be actually defending this practice. A cane is not more severe than a whip, but it can also kill.

The impromptu public punishments handed out by patrolling religious police and traffic cops are not of the same severity as that of the court mandated ones.

The videos of court mandated private lashings do not exist on the internet.

Also, the punishments are not codified and are handed out arbitrarily by judges depending on their whims and fancy.

http://www.arabnews.com/node/312229


 No.319911

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>>319902

>it can also kill

>kill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG3fA3skAd0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG3fA3skAd0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG3fA3skAd0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG3fA3skAd0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG3fA3skAd0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG3fA3skAd0

>are not of the same severity as that of the court mandated ones

At least two of the videos I posted are court mandated punishments >>319814 >>319816

The last one is Raif Badawi.

Why are Indians so retarded?

Also, the only good point that article has is the Hadith about 10 lashes maximum.


 No.319912

>>319911

Yes, the serious floggings can kill (not shown in your videos). The flogging are actually given in separate batches so that the victim won't die. However, undiagnosed conditions, misplaced blows, psychological stress etc. can kill the victim.

Not to mention it is barbaric and inhumane. (http://archive.is/1gkLH)

>The 19-year-old American who was caned in Singapore for vandalism said today that the bleeding it caused was "like a bloody nose."

>The teenager, Michael P. Fay, said in an interview that the four strokes with a rattan cane on May 5 had left three dark-brown scars on his right buttock and four lines each about half-an-inch wide on his left buttock.

>Mr. Fay said that prison officials told him he shouted, "I'm dying," when the first stroke was delivered. He said he could not remember making the cry.

>He said a prison officer stood beside him and guided him through the ordeal, saying: "O.K. Michael, three left. O.K., Michael, two left. O.K., one more; you're almost done."

>He said he had first looked at the scars in a mirror only two days ago. "I got a shiver down my back," he said, "and I couldn't believe I might have them for the rest of my life."

> "The skin did rip open," he said. "There was some blood. I mean let's not exaggerate, and let's not say a few drops or that the blood was gushing out. It was in between the two. It's like a bloody nose."

>Mr. Fay said the wounds hurt for about five days, after which they itched as they healed. "The first couple of days it was very hard to sit," he said.

While we are on the topic, you may want to defend how the modern Saudi practice of amputating a thief, is more humane than the medieval European punishment of branding. And how the current practice of stoning an adulterer is way better hanging.

>Why are Indians so retarded?

Yes, we are retarded and you guys are the sole light of virtue in this dark immoral world. I shudder to think that my Muslim compatriots want this legalised in India.


 No.319916

>>319898

What are the stereotypes of each Arab country? How do the Arabs see North Caucasians? (especially Circassians)


 No.319919

>>319912

Apparently you're too retarded to know the difference between Saudi Arabia and Singapore.

>amputating a thief

It's only done under very specific conditions, but you're too retarded to know or look up what they are.


 No.319929

>>319912

>stoning adulterers

It's social justice.


 No.319967

>>319916

I'm not sure how arabs see circassians. I believe they just think that those people are russian and that's that.

Moroccan girls are often viewed as sluts and whores in the Khaleej (gulf) because they are quite europeanised and a lot of them have no issue selling that sweet North African papoose to rich sweaty Sheikhs who ejaculate petrol.

In fact the gulf sees all North Africans as french, essentially. They don't really see them as arabs


 No.319975

>>319967

>In fact the gulf sees all North Africans as french, essentially. They don't really see them as arabs

top kek


 No.319976

>Drugs and alcohol

2 months to 1 year and some taps on the back is not that bad fam

>>319912

Pajeet the only thing you properly understand is poo and you don't even do it right, stop trying to sound smart.


 No.319979

my understanding is that these punishments are designed to humiliate the convicted person and scare the commuity, and that the are seldom given the full amount of lashes because…

turns out it doesn't take that many lashes to kill someone

depending on if it's a knotted whip, has multiple lashes etc it can vary a lot, but ten whips with a straight single tail whip will often hospitalize someone

fourty lashes with a cat-o-nine tails will have a similar effect, but s more controllable

300 proper lashes will kill someone

fuck the house of saud, I hope they get nuked


 No.319982

>>319979

>doesn't take that many lashes to kill someone

Which should not happen.

>depending on if it's a knotted whip

It shouldn't be.

>with a cat-o-nine tails

Which is not used.

>300 proper lashes will kill someone

Which is why the one delivering the punishment is supposed to hold a book under his armpit to not raise his arm too high. How many in these videos did you see raise their arms above shoulder height?

>projecting this much

>not watching the videos


 No.319990

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>>319919

I merely posted the Singapore interview because that is one of the few interviews in English of flogging victims. Why don't you post some interviews of Saudi flogging victims telling how it was a tap on the arse? May be when Raif Badawi gets out, he will tell everyone how it was totally painless and merely humiliating.

>amputating a thief

>It's only done under very specific conditions.

Thank the Prophet, at least you admitted that it happens. May be it is also a slight tap on the hand, to humiliate the thief?

>>319976

It seems all the Muslims have assembled here to defend their medieval religion. Why not just let people drink? Nope can't do that because our 7th century holy-book says so.


 No.319991

>>319990

Why not just let people poo in the loo?


 No.319992

>>319990

>telling how it was a tap on the arse?

You don't need to hear it from them when you can see it for yourself from these videos.


 No.319993

300 lashes? That's a bit too much don't you think? I mean, the punishment for having sex outside married (if the man/woman is not married to another woman/man) is 100 lashes


 No.319994

>>319993

i think it was cause of the drugs / alcohol im not too informed on the laws though


 No.319995

>>319994

But in Islam, the sin of sex outside marriage is bigger than alcohol/drugs, a warning/banishment from the area is enough. Also, why do Arabs love to torture criminals/lawbreakers so much?


 No.319996

>>319995

oh yeah true

idk i guess it's to scare people off of crime?


 No.319997

>>319996

Kinda ironic, isn't it? Arab used to be a democratic caliphate, now it's an oppressive monarchy


 No.319998

>>319997

Kinda sad, too.


 No.319999

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>>319992

>>319991

Because poor people don't have the money to build toilets. Our law does not mandate outdoor defecation.

What's your excuse for legally lashing people?

"If we don't do this, we won't get our jannah with the 72 houris."

>>319992

No, we need to hear it from the victims. What is wrong with hearing it from them?


 No.320001

>>319999

Just a random question, why do you post news here? /n/ not enough for you?


 No.320002

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>>320001

He poops in the wrong place, so might as well post in the wrong place as well

>>319999

Maybe you should pay the people more than 1 rupee for a poopie.

Also nice "Virgins" they look like sluts fam,come on India do 1 thing right.

I guess the lashing videos posted by saudi were all pranks, cause real lashes would leave these people pouring blood and becoming mentally retarded in a veggie state, right?

pic related, its the whip Indians use to punish loo users


 No.320006

>>319999

>What is wrong with hearing it from them?

Why listen to a probably exaggerated description of something you didn't see when you can see it for yourself?

See, this is what people like you do when something is related to Islam. You ask to see proof of something for yourself, not personal accounts, and when you see for yourself, you ask for personal accounts instead.

You're not looking for truth, you're looking for ways to detract.


 No.320027

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>>320002

>He poops in the wrong place, so might as well post in the wrong place as well

Lol, butthurt.

>Also nice "Virgins" they look like sluts fam,come on India do 1 thing right.

Why don't you post the correct representation of houris yourself? Oh wait, the representation of humans is forbidden in Islamic art. You are only supposed to read about them and imagine.

>I guess the lashing videos posted by saudi were all pranks

I guess the woman >>319990 had to be carried away after only 5 lashes because the lashes were so ticklish, that she fainted of laughter. Following which she had to be rushed to the hospital, to cure her uncontrollable giggling.

>>320006

Why listen to victims, when we can listen to the official apologist white-washed version, right? Do the victims even have a voice? People like me have the correct information about Islam. Whereas people like you evade by saying things like: amputations are done in rare cases, lashing is ticklish, ISIS totally mangled the most peaceful religion in the world.


 No.320029

>>320027

Victims?

Are you honestly calling drug addicts, rapists, and adulterers "victims"?

>People like me have the correct information about Islam

People like you want to play make-believe and deny whatever they hear about things they don't like unless it fits their agenda. You're no better than an SJW talking about "MUH unequal pay".

>lashing is ticklish

Those are YOUR words. Don't put words into my mouth, you lying curry nigger.


 No.320032

>>320029

Yes, victims. Don't use a strawman. Raif Badawi is a victim. So is Ashraf Fayadh. The Qatif girl is also a victim.

You are no better than a SJW who points fingers at everyone but sweeps their own filth under the carpet. In fact, SJWs are your greatest allies in the west. Without them and your oil, you would have gone the way of North Korea, nobody would have wanted to touch you.

>Don't put words into my mouth

That is called sarcasm, you illiterate. But, unfortunately your kind doesn't understand it, evident from what happened to Charlie Hebdo.


 No.320105

>>320027

>Lol, butthurt.

So instead of actually answering the question asked by Indonesia you just call me butthurt, sick.

Lashing isn't supposed to break the skin, nor is it supposed to kill, and these 500 lashes won't be delivered in one day, it'll prob take about 5-10 to deliver them all.

But i guess you don't care about that, you just want to shitpost.


 No.320114

>>320105

5-10 weeks*

Fug


 No.320147

>>319990

Malaysian/Singapore canings are harder because they

a) have judicial canings from the british tradition ( as well as Sharia canings in malaysia)

b) the muslims there aren't arab; so they feel a bit out of the loop and overcompensate ;^)

those pics look like they're applying incorrectly… I don't think malaysia does public judicial canings but I could be wrong


 No.320156

>>320147

hmm I needed to go a bit west/southwest, that woman is from aceh

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3377187/Screaming-agony-woman-caned-crowd-close-proximity-man-not-married-Indonesian-region-s-sharia-law.html

Clearly from the video in that article, the guy is getting a good old whack with a good meaty bit of rattan, harder than those saudi floggers. And that chick got 5 real hard bitching whacks, went to hospital.

Now I guess the question I have is if Saudi implements the humiliation caning, but Aceh is all JUST FUCK MY BACK UP, I wonder why/how the aceh sharia lawmakers justify that use of force.

Lost in translation/transport? Local Islam head is actually a Khorne worshipper?


 No.320165

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wew lad


 No.320246

>>320165

Well it's better than Saudi women!


 No.320308

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>>319813

That's all?

No blood?

No gore?

No screaming?

I don't know how to feel about this. You guys do beheadings and stuff on a daily basis and suddenly there's a physical punishment that looks like a gentle massage.




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