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 No.321905

>"EU, gib money pls"

>"sure thing, Polan"

>"EU, gib jobs pls"

>"no problem, Polan"

>"Polan, we're worried about you. Your recent decisions might be dangerous to democr…"

>"FUCK YOU EU, POLAND STRONK, POLAND SOVEREIGN, MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS, EU!!!"

 No.321906

Are you implying MIGHTY POLSKA IS SOMEHOW WRONG IN ALL THIS?


 No.321908

>>321905

>recent decisions might be dangerous to democracy

Which ones?

Also, why is the EU pretending to care about democracy?


 No.321920

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>>321908

As you propably know Poland was always more of a conservatist country. Since the last presidential and parlamental elections though the control over the country is held by president and parlamental majority from an extreme right-wing party.

Not long after the elections the parliament started passing laws that were not exactly consistent with our constitution. The biggest stir was caused by the changes they're trying to make in the Constitutional Court, the only organa that could somehow control them.

They also passed a law thanks to which they took control over the public television, filling it with pseudopatriotic propaganda.

Upon finding out that the Venice Commission is on the Constitutional Court's side, all the conservatists got severely butthurt, accussing EU of violating Poland's sovereignity.

Look, I neither support our current government, because they often happen to meddle "muh christian tradition" into politics, nor particularly like EU, because they pretty much fucked up during the rapefugee crisis, but right now definitely I side with EU.

Poland is the only sane country in Europe, we can't fuck that up.

</rant>


 No.321921

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>>321920

>muh christian tradition

Be happy that you actually still cling to it,

I guess the grass is always greener on the other side, but as a western german living in one of the most progressive parts of our country I can assure you that 60s-tier conservatism is preferable to what will fill the void that gets left behind once it is torn down.

Am a nonbeliever and never will be able to I guess, but the escalating liberal smugness that degrades everything christian with childish insults, while elevating itself or islam in its place made me symphatize with catholicism-deusvult memery aside- again.

Concerning your media, while it may be a dangerous step you can still vote the current guys away over the next decades if they fuck up. leaving whoever inherites them with the control of it. Having guys from your own country controlling the narrative-even if you dont like them-is always better then leaving it to foreigners to shape your opinion.

Our Springerpress known for biasedness and flat journalism here owns great chunks of what is made to influence many poles, you surely dont want that..


 No.321922

>>321920

I don't doubt populists will attempt to expand their power undemocratically. But how bad is it?

>took control over the public television, filling it with pseudopatriotic propaganda

Did they pass any law allowing them to punish opposition media? Did they clamp down on any media they dislike?

AFAIK, didn't the government simply turn state media into propaganda pieces? The British government also does it through the BBC, using taxpayer money to defend the diversity agenda. Governments shouldn't be using money they extorted through force from the citizens to brainwash them, but it's not like the enlightened diverse western europeans don't do it.


 No.321923

>>321921

>Be happy that you actually still cling to it

We don't. There is no christian tradition. The only people who believe in this rubbish are mostly retirees of age 60-90, who worship the "Smolensk Consipracy". Most superstitions and celebrations in Poland actually belong to pagan traditions.

Of course conservatism isn't bad, but only when implemented in a moderate way. Same goes to liberalism.

Nationalists antagonizing the EU in the eyes of a country's citizens while it's only trying to help are just as bad as SJWs covering up crimes done by minorities and inventing new genders.

>>321922

The law they passed gave them control over the public tv channels there's 3 or 4 of which, so no biggie, but as soon as they got their hands on them, they started removing the shows that seemed inconvenient to them, replacing it with news reports on the investigation on the Smolensk catastrophe, tributes to the "Cursed Soldiers", and reports that cherrypick the negative information on the opposition. They can't do anything to the private stations though, which still air more or less reliable news reports.


 No.321930

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>>321923

>Most superstitions and celebrations in Poland actually belong to pagan traditions.

Well, its the same everywhere in europe, the thing is though that the people who practized these originally pagan rites through the ages thought of themselves as christian, so it is basically "claimed" now as christian.

I can see were you are coming from though, I like the roman part of our mixture of christianity better then the jew and jesus stuff.

>in a moderate way

Middle way would be nice, but the climate has become so shrill and leftist that you guys actually appear kinda moderate by now even though our media paints you in the worst colours possible at the moment.

I cant help but see the EU as hostile to all of us at the moment, it has become a tool for lobbyists of foreign interests and companies and I always disliked centralisation.


 No.321931

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*disliked the dangers of centralisation, as in powergrabbing and the lack of diversified approaches to problems.

The EU comissers wants to streamline as much as possible but when the fruits of their efforts turn out bad, they affect everyone much more severly as when just one of many nationstates would have made a mistake.


 No.321932

>>321931

>quotas for women

>subsidies for pro-state propaganda

>cultural enrichment everywhere

>orwellian-sounding "appointed governments"

>extra taxation for provinces with prostitution and drug use, as if that wouldn't make their economy even worser

>banning e-cigs

>punishing nations not using the euro

>switzerland, west ukraine, norway and iceland under the jackboot

Is this supposed to be some dystopia?


 No.321933

>>321932

Well, if you think about the fact how much the comissioners actually want but cant enforce yet-such as paneuropean army opposed to many sovereign armys for each nationstate, that image becomes suddenly much less funny.

And then there is the outrightly threateningly stuff, like the one time they tried to make mandatory tolerance camps for youth with evil opinions (Was not endorsed.. yet..).

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2009_2014/documents/libe/dv/11_revframework_statute_/11_revframework_statute_en.pdf


 No.321959

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>>321933

>Juveniles convicted of committing crimes listed in paragraph (a) will be required to undergo a rehabilitation programme designed to instill in them a culture of tolerance

I thought I'd laugh, but this is just too dreadful.


 No.322001

>>321920

Maybe you should move to Germany so you can be gang raped by arabs, faggot.


 No.322002

>>321923

>while it's only trying to help

>You must take in rapefugees who your citizens don't want, who we cannot vet, and who have demonstrated that they will rape, litter, pillage, and won't even be grateful

>trying to help

top kuck.


 No.322010

>thinking Eu gave us money

They actually took more money than gave

>eu giving jobs

The only thing Eu gave were shiny plates with their name on it

>no christian tradition

16 year old detected

>They also passed a law thanks to which they took control over the public television, filling it with pseudopatriotic propaganda.

>We don't. There is no christian tradition. The only people who believe in this rubbish are mostly retirees of age 60-90, who worship the "Smolensk Consipracy". Most superstitions and celebrations in Poland actually belong to pagan traditions.

The "everything i read on facebook is true" type

Just in case someone is wondering, the truth about media is that 4 out of 5 media sources were controlled by the left side for atleast last 8 years, they consistently shitted on anything right winged, and now when they take the media back its somehow different than before

Here we have a pole that not only doesn't do his homework he also only reads papers like newsweek (german controlled ) and every information he gets is from facebook.

Also if any of you knows Polish they should check out "Mariusz max kolonko" on youtube, he actually proves his points and is reliable news guy.

Lets disregard the left shill threads


 No.322014

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>>321905

Nice hyperboles, you self-hating cuck, but two can play at this game

>"Hey Western Europe, you will back me up if the Nazis invade, right?"

"Sure thing, Polan!"

>"H-hey guys, my shit is kinda getting fucked up here, can you send some help?"

>"Just hold tight Polan, we believe in you!"

>"Well, I'm glad WW2 is over, now we can-"

>"Yeah, we're sure uncle Stalin will take good care of you, Polan!"

>"Well, I'm glad that after long years of being poverty-stricken Soviet puppet state I broke free and you guys me into EU, but this mass immigration seems a bit out of control so I will have to reconsider letting them in and-"

>"WOW WHAT THE FUCK POLAN, WE GIB YOU MONIES AND YOU'RE NOT OBEYING OUR EVERY DECISION?! YOU'RE CLEARLY TURNING INTO A FASCIST STATE AND WE ARE SENDING A COMMISSION TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS SILLY "DEMOCRACY" OF YOURS IS UP TO OUR ARBITRARY STANDARDS!"

Where the fuck did you take the idea that EU donations to post-gommie Polan are some sort of bargaining chip to be exchanged for obedience? "We pay you - you do what we say", is this what according to you EU is about?

>>321920

>PiS

>an extreme right-wing party

Hahaha

>the Constitutional Court, the only organa that could somehow control them.

Bullshit. The Constitutional Court was a biased puppetshow for a long time now. Besides, everything it does could be done by the Supreme Court.

>They also passed a law thanks to which they took control over the public television

Same situation, TVP was always biased towards whoever was currently in power. Who the fuck watches public television anyway? There's a shitton of other channels you can watch, including the ones which criticize the current government whenever they can. If PiS tried to limit the other channels then I'd be worried. But flipping your shit over something so irrelevant as a crappy tv channel, which broadcasts nothing but cheap knockoffs of Brazillian telenovelas and occasional news is just ridiculous. Besides, do you seriously miss people like Kraśko? Polish public tv is no BBC, it was at the rock-bottom for a long time and nothing can make it much worse than it already was.

>filling it with pseudopatriotic propaganda.

I don't even know what do you mean by this. Explain please.

>Look, I neither support our current government

Neither do I, I didn't vote for them and I hate what they are doing to our economy with their dumb decisions like the 500 zł per kid or the Lewiatan tax issue. But the TVP thing or not sucking the liberal dick of EU are actually one of the few things they did right. And yet faggots like you can't shut up about it and adress the actual problems.

>but right now definitely I side with EU

Friendly reminder that the relation between the members of EU is supposed to be the one of partnership, not servitude. We have all the rights to question and negotiate and agreeing to whatever Brussels and Merkel come up with was never a part of the deal.


 No.322015

>>322010

>Also if any of you knows Polish they should check out "Mariusz max kolonko" on youtube, he actually proves his points and is reliable news guy.

I like him, because he's entertaining, but tbh fam he's a biased as fuck ameriboo and I really wouldn't call him reliable


 No.322034

>>322015

Well i wouldn't stand behind him 100% you should never trust someone 100% but even tho he is biased he still points out important things others wouldn't.


 No.322035

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>>322014

POLSKA

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 No.322053

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>mfw when not europeon


 No.322056

>>322053

Jesus, I wish easter would come. I want a burger so bad it hurts.

Like seriously, there is a pain in my stomach ever since Ash Wednesday and the only cure is two all beef patties, special sauce, cheese, lettuce, pickles, all on a sesame bun.

I tried eating one of those veggie "burgers" but it tasted like a boot.

Fucking jews.


 No.322150

For every pole that has invaded europe, we are sending you a mudslime.

In three generations the polish will have assimilated here but Poland will be brown and the culture replaced with Islam.

Muhahahahaha!


 No.322177

>>322150

Its a nice plan except you would have to send muslims at a gun point to Poland they don't want to come here.

does anyone have that image where immigrant says he prefferes death than pole-care


 No.322178

>>322150

Its a nice plan except you would have to send muslims at a gun point to Poland they don't want to come here.

does anyone have that image where immigrant says he prefferes death than pole-care


 No.322179

fuck you kikewheels stop shitting up my posting technique


 No.322214

>>322177

That's crazy, Poland looks lush.

I don't know what you guys are doing, but well done.


 No.322215

>>322035

>recently confirmed commie agent in the middle

>>322053

You're missing out fam

>>322214

>Poland looks lush

But winters are cold and sebas hit hard


 No.322274

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>>322215

>not having your own party of sebas


 No.322318

>>322274

Who the fuck and why would write "kurwa" over their own flag and put it on the wall?


 No.322393

>>322318

wilno nashze kurwo


 No.322408

>>322393

Wilno jest nasze and Kosovo je Srbija, my kebab-removing friend.




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