No.7592
Yes hello
12.0 is over, this is not the place to discuss why.
14.0 is on the making, the old administration is not partaking.
We are moving to a new server, which also means a new IP, which also means we're currently setting up the server from scratch. Plugins are being worked on as I type. The people we have to thank for their effort in the setup are Lemonshot, Luna, and Zyklon Ben
The admin team will most likely be made of other people, but this is for a later discussion, eventually
About the server itself: it is in great lines going back to a more traditional setup, with a non-set time period, a general BC, Ancient era (no not fucking cavemen you retarded apes, more in the lines of Assyria to Rome), the map will be a crop of 11.0 world map, only the eastern hemisphere (Europe+Asia+Africa if I really need to specify this to you uncultured swines).
A conservative ETA is 2 weeks from now, but it is extremely likely this will take a lot less.
This is all the important news I think lmao
No.7593
No.7594
P.S.
Allo qts will be banned
Thank you
No.7595
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No.7597
No.7598
>>7596
i-is your skype ever gonna be fixed
/qtg/ skype chat needs you
No.7599
>>7592
>>7597
13.0 will be skipped for memes
No.7600
We do ancient and middle age shit all the time. The reason people liked the gun memes so much is because they made pvp better and changed gameplay completely. Why don't we do cold war Era or a post us breakdown us exclusive map. These older iterations tend to have people circle Jerk one nation like Rome or China. Why don't we atleast do medieval ages or something that's not in these memey time periods with one relevant power? Also why is 12 kill and can you atleast let me take screenshots of my shit. Dave you are a cuck and let the horse fuckers have their way.
No.7601
>>7592
>12.0 is over, this is not the place to discuss why
A thread informaing people that 12 is over and a new one is beginning is probably the best place to discuss this.
And apparently, there's nowhere to discuss this either.
It's not like there will be any other kind of discussion in this thread except the ocasional speculation about 14, so might as well clear out why 12 went down under.
Why is 12 going down when there hasn't even been a week since grace period ended? Why do you think a new iteration will actually make it longer than the previous one?
What will be different in 14 that we did not had on 12 that actually makes the server last, instead of keeling over just as fast?
Is no one interested in discussing why Zyklon B torched 2 cities for no reason? He only stopped once Chien got online.
No.7602
>>7601
oh look its this guy again
hers your reply lad +1 upboated
No.7603
>>7601
In short words I decided that I did not want to further pay for brogrammer's work
>Is no one interested in discussing why Zyklon B torched 2 cities for no reason
Actually, no, to my own surprise no one has said anythign about it even in the skype group, not even to say how "ebin" it was, it really looks like no one cares at all
No.7604
>>7603
What about the differences between 12 and 14? And I don't mean plugins or time period. What's actually gonna be different that keeps the server going for more than "grace period + 2-3 days"?
And if there's any solution planned, why wasn't it implemented in 12 instead?
Because there's a good possibility that "no one cares at all" because the server was already empty by the time that happened.
No.7605
>>7602
>hers
Abbo, please. Get some literacy first.
No.7606
>>7604
>What's actually gonna be different that keeps the server going for more than "grace period + 2-3 days"?
I've tried to wrap my head around this for 10 months now
No.7607
>>7606
>I've tried to wrap my head around this for 10 months now
And what conclusion have you arrived to?
If you're starting a new server from scratch and not using anything that was previously set up, it's because you have your own take on what to do and I'm interested in hearing it.
No.7608
>>7607
>And what conclusion have you arrived to?
The only thing we haven't tried yet is running the server wild with near-to-zero mod intervention, so I'll try that
>If you're starting a new server from scratch and not using anything that was previously set up, it's because you have your own take on what to do
False:
>>7592
"About the server itself: it is in great lines going back to a more traditional setup"
No.7609
>>7607
THIS
IS
NOW
A
MOE
THREAD
No.7610
>>7609
Bakoon you piece of shit I'll ban you
No.7611
>>7608
>near-to-zero mod intervention
But isn't that how the previous iteractions have been run as well?
I mean, how many people even were banned on 12?
It's not like there were that many rules to begin with, and considering the number one reason for people leaving seems to be frustration involving alts infiltrating their factions (something that needs moderation to solve), why do you think "no rules" is gonna help the server?
I mean, just because it's a new untested idea, it doesn't mean it's a good one. I've yet to hear anyone saying "You know what Intcraft needs? Less rules."
On the contrary, the server seems to always have incredibly volatile factions and you can often have someone that played on your town for 3 days turning out to be an alt.
Towny, for instance, is more likely to screw town owners than it's own invaders, since it often breaks down for reasons.
Why exactly do you consider that "no rules" is gonna bring more players or at very least keep the current ones for longer?
And if it was just that, why did 12 ended when you could have just said "No rules now, lads!" instead.
No.7612
>>7611
you know nothing, please end yourself quietly
No.7613
>>7611
Shut up you piece of Reddit shit
You are probably Brogram's agent or an Agent or Reddit
Fuck off you shill
WITH REDDIT, YOU'LL REGRET IT
No.7614
>>7612
Can it, abbo. The white man is talking.
>>7613
>you do not share my opinion about the server
>you must leave
Can you at least apreciate how ironic it is, you accusing me of coming from a circlejerk?
>agent
wut?
No.7615
>>7614
You are an agent of Reddit, and more importantly the agent of the CCURS
The Civcraft-Civex Union of Reddified States
I know your kind too well
You come here to stir trouble
You bitch about shit you don't know and try to blame them on people not yourself
You want to cause unrest
Divide us
When we are divided
The Armies of the CCURS will march in and destroy us
Now leave shill for your tactics don't work on me
WITH REDDIT YOU'LL REGRET IT
WITH REDDIT, IT WILL BE THE END OF IT
No.7616
>>7611
>considering the number one reason for people leaving seems to be frustration involving alts infiltrating their factions
proofster.jpeg (this indicated that I do not believe in your claim and in fact think that the #1 reason for people leaving is completely unrelated, and that your claim lacks consistent evidence pointing towards it, and actually is only based on your personal experience aka anectodal evidence)
>But isn't that how the previous iteractions have been run as well?
I'm pretty sure that's not how you spell iteration
Now listen, I've run this shitty ship in 3.0, and 3.0, everyone can confirm, was possibly the most ban-happy iteration. I banned a lot in 3.0 because I cared about quality, and I tried to shut down any kind of behaviour I saw as negative for the server. But what I have realised after that experience and have corroborated seeing the server go on, is that intcraft is for freedom and fun. I might aswell have gone full retard on the other side of the spectrum but hey, enforcing role play, historical accuracy, quality gameplay didn't work back then, might aswell try something completely different
>Why exactly do you consider that "no rules" is gonna bring more players or at very least keep the current ones for longer?
I'm not talking about no rules. There will be clear rules, and unliftable bans for those who break them
>why did 12 ended when you could have just said "No rules now, lads!" instead.
The ending of 12.0 was handled very poorly by people who were not supposed to be involved in it
No.7617
>>7615
>making all this up
>taking this so seriously
Really, mate. I can just google for "Civcraft-Civex Union of Reddified States" to find 2 unrelated results and conclude you are making shit up.
You really don't need to pretend there's a boogeyman to get you, you can just say "I disagree with you".
>try to blame them on people not yourself
>You want to cause unrest
I haven't blamed anyone of anything whatsoever, with the exception of alts ruining the server.
I do not want to cause unrest.
Do you want to back your claims like people do on chans, or do you want to circlejerk about how you are right like they do on Reddit\SA?
>>7616
Speaking from experience, I joined this server to play with my brother, who joined the server to play with brogrammer. And along with him, hghg and flammerwerfer also came. I believe there were others, but I don't recall their names.
Dublin was memeraided twice by two different people (assuming it wasn't 2 alts of the same guy) that played for a few days before turning on us. The last one even made a claim with Towny right outside the walls with a few chests to store stolen stuff. And we couldn't declare war and take it back because it was 1-man town.
I was still inclined in keep trying but hghg was already burned with what happened in Britain and so where others. Dublin fell even before grace period ended not because of PvP but because most of it's menbers got fed up with the underhanded tactics that are allowed on this server.
And I hear that shortly before the end of 12, there was a town with guys that just liked to plant weed that got the same treatment and also quit.
Now, you say 3.0 was full of bans left and right. But what about the playerbase? How long did it last? How many people were at the beginning and made it to the end?
It was the third iteraction, it's normal to have a small playerbase. If you want to argue that bans did more harm than good, then did the playerbase drop sharply as time went on? Did the server last 2-3 days after grace period as well?
3.0 is a very different situation than the current one and you gotta take all those variables into account if you want to compare them, after all.
No.7618
>>7616
>I'm not talking about no rules. There will be clear rules, and unliftable bans for those who break them
That's great news. Let's hear what rules there will be that weren't in 12. Because either there are new rules that will make things different or rules weren't being enforced on 12.
>The ending of 12.0 was handled very poorly by people who were not supposed to be involved in it
What people and what did they do? Keeping people on the dark about this kind of things is in very poorform. 12 is over, it's history now. So let's hear it, see what went wrong and figure out how to make the future better. Learn from that experience.
Not talking about problems just makes sure we keep repeating the same mistakes again.
No.7619
>>7617
You need to learn how to defend yourself in an argument. Stop losing and humiliating yourself.
No.7620
>>7617
In pic related you have a handy picture showing the average online playerbase of each iteration's golden period
3.0 lasted longer than 2.0, longer than the average intcraft iteration, about the same as 1.0, many people sticked to the end because I did in fact keep banning people but I'm a soft cuck and kept ubanning them after 1 or 2 days because they asked so hard. 3.0 didn't die for lack of playerbase it actually died because I was tired of the playerbase being shit and quit and then the guy who took it from me fucked everything up and then RedMajora came and 4.0 was made and the rest is history
>It was the third iteraction, it's normal to have a small playerbase
Why do you think oldfags cry about "muh 1.0" so much? It had the most player ever, 2 or 3 times the average intcraft iteration, there were days you COULD NOT login because the server was FULL (70 players)
No.7622
>>7619
You are arguing as if we have already established that I lost. Prove first that I lost before claiming anything else, otherwise you are just humiliating yourself.
>>7620
So you are saying the server actually had a decent amount of players that even stood around instead of leaving the server.
And you even admit this was most likely because you kept banning shitty players out.
Listen man, I know moderating and adminning a server is actually a tough and stressfull job, I really do.
But if you don't think you have the patience to put up with the shitty players (and I understand you there), then find someone else that can do it.
You know very well that what drives people away from a server for any game at all is instability and frustration. You need order to keep people around, and you need admins to enforce that.
As far as I saw and heard and experienced, there was next to no admin intervention on 12 and it went the way it did. Learn from that, get someone serious about admmining the game and kicking out the shitty players, if you can't do it.
No.7623
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No.7624
>>7622
>you are just humiliating yourself.
I don't think that ad hominem can save your pathetic arguments.
No.7625
>>7620
>>7622
dont worry ill make this iteration intressting, leave it up to me fam!111!!!!111!
No.7627
>>7624
You are right, that was in poor form. We both should tell the guy here >>7619 that calling others humiliating is an ad hominem and doesn't prove him right :^)
No.7628
>>7621
delet this
4.0 wasn't better then 3.0 even at it's peak
No.7634
Thanks for the update, Dabe.
No.7638
>>7621
posting more accurate version
No.7641
>>7632
me on the left picking dank memes up from the floor gnna smoke it later
No.7642
daily reminder that this will happen if Dave bans qt
No.7646
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No.7647
>>7601
Chien was actually in on the whole thing. We torched the cities to force brogrammer to give up. We decided to delete the server in the end.
No.7650
>>7649
i want you to bully my insides
No.7651
>>7647
>force brogrammer to give up
Why?
As far as I'm aware, he doesn't own the server. Couldn't you just tell him "We don't want you here anymore" and kick him out? Why set fire to towns? I mean, you ended up deleting the server anyway, what was the point of burning towns then?
Unless those towns where brogrammer towns, you pretty much dragged into that players that had nothing to do with whatever arguement you were having with brogrammer.
It's not like the server didn't had enough problems already, why did you think making even more problems would help?
I hear that you are one of the people in charge of the next iteraction. Ruining the previous one on purpose before starting one of your own seems sketchy at best…
No.7653
No.7656
No.7658
>>7657
>worst catgirl
Seriously. There are 6 girls, 5 of them better than Azuki, and you had to pick her. You do know she's a Munchkin, a race of cat famous for being fat as fuck?
Even Cinnamon, that whore, is miles better than Azuki.
There's your bully, nerd
No.7659
>>7658
i picked her because the other gifs were too large
No.7660
>>7659
>the other gifs are larger than the fatass Munchkin.
This doesn't compile at all.
No.7661
>>7660
the gif i posted was 6.8mb and the other one with v-vanilla is 9.2 i believe
cap is 8
No.7662
IVECOVEREDWARS FOR ADMIN 2016
No.7663
Questions:
what time period?
who will be the admins?
will there be a map limit?
will we advertise on /int/ and /his/?
No.7664
>>7663
its no specific time period, just BC
Lemon, Luna and Zyklon is working on serb, probably some of those.
Its the eastern hemisphere, entire world no america
i don't know
No.7666
>No more slowgrammer
>Unspecified BC time period
>No more slowgrammer
>eastern hemisphere map
>No more slowgrammer
>no more guns
>No more slowgrammer
>Brewery will work again
>No more slowgrammer
>mfw
No.7668
tfw ill never be a qt anime girl
why live?
No.7670
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>>7667
Thank you
>>7666
Satanic trips GET
No.7671
>>7664
>no more guns
combat is much more interesting with guns
there's no appeal in running up to someone and spam-clicking repeatedly until the other one dies. atleast guns added some variety
No.7672
>>7671
Guns also made sieges well-nigh impossible. Towny is already incredibly fudged in favour of the defending party, for reasons I hopefully don't have to go over for the millionth time. If you add guns to the mix, it becomes incredibly hard to conquer a town. That much is evident now, after what we have seen in 11, and even in 12, where guns were considerably nerfed. They're great for raids, but for actual sieges, they throw the balance off even more in favour of the defenders.
No.7673
>>7672
>they throw the balance off even more in favour of the defenders.
But that's actually a good thing, and also more historically accurate tbh.
No.7674
>>7640
chien's administration was shit though and didn't even peak higher than cuckmajora's
No.7675
1) Avant Garde pls stop being rude :C
2) You are welcome Jam
3) Portoguese guy have faith in the Dave
4) STOP LEWD POSTING ALL QT WILL BE BANNED AND WORDFILTERED
5) >>7663
Litetally read the OP you tard
No.7676
>ancient era
kind of shit tbh
At least I can make a germanic tribe.
No.7678
Hello friends
I do not know of the recent occurrences since the fall of 11.0 but I hope we can have comfy farming adventures together again!
No.7679
No.7680
>>7678
you too, god bless
sweden never noticed
No.7681
>>7673
>But that's actually a good thing
No, it isn't. It just makes it more hugboxy which we should avoid to be honest family. Naked Greeking is already incredibly fucking powerful against invasions.
No.7682
>>7680
holy shit how did i not notice that
t. karl
No.7683
>>7676
Fuck off newfag
>>7677
Fuck off lewd
>>7678
Fuck o- no I actually like you you're a cool player
>>7679
Fuck off coolghoul
>>7681
Fuck off well argumenting poster
>>7682
Fuck off norse
No.7684
>>7651
>Ruining the previous one on purpose before starting one of your own seems sketchy at best…
Welcome to /int/craft.
No.7685
>>7683
that wasn't me
>We do ancient and middle age shit all the time.
not really
also imo ancient intcraft is the true intcraft, I didn't really like all these cannons, guns etc
No.7686
>>7651
Look fam. You're looking for a server that has a playerbase playing with common sense and by basic rules of ethics, as well as a server that has some forge mods, right?
Then go find one, intcraft isn't supposed to be either.
No.7687
>>7592
>ancient era
Fuck yeah, I'm gonna make uyghur 2.0
No.7689
>>7592
What is new ip of new edition?
No.7690
No.7691
>>7672
Which is how it should be. The defending town should have an advantage over an invader. >>7681
Naked greeking is shit and more annoying and unfair than guns.
No.7692
>>7592
Maybe you will limit number of towns/civilizations if we will play in ancient times…
Like rising the costs of creating town to 9999gold. And delete leader option to remove town/civilization/nation.
System of civilization bonuses from last edition was good. You should think to add it in next edition.
Also you can add plugin with gods and religions.
So egypt, babylon and summer will have different religions.
No.7693
>>7592
And in what "ancient" times we will play?
————————–
>Focused on middle east and Egypt:
1. Sumer civilization ( 5300 BC -1940 BC)
2. Egypt dominance times? (2686 [first piramides] -1070BC [from Old to Middle kingdom of egypt])
3. First Babylonian Dynasty ? (1894–1595BC)
————
>Focused on greece, turkey and middle east.
4. Persian Empire vs greek city states? (~500–449BC)
5. Times of Alexander the Great? (356-323BC)
6. Hellenistic period ?(323 BC- 30BC)
————-
>Focused on today Italy, Tunesia, France, Spain.
6. Times of carthage vs rome war, Punic wars? ( 264 BC-219BC)
7. Rising of Roman empire? (~146 BC [conquer and destroying of carthage ] -…. )
Technologic periods:
Stone age
4,5kk - 8000BC
8800-2000BC
Bronze Age
early 3500-2000BC
middle 2000-1600BC
late 1600-1200BC
Iron Age
~ 1180 BC ~1300AC
No.7694
>>7693
Something like (read: NOT entirely decided yet) ~1000 BC - 200 BC
No.7695
>>7592
pirate mode or not?
factions or towny?
>>7691
tfw newfags probably dont even know where naked greeking comes from
No.7696
>>7695
but on the topic of naked greeking because someone is whining about it earlier in the thread, it's only a thing because of towny - can't happen in factions
No.7697
No.7699
all the lewd in this thread
No.7700
>>7628
sleep tight burgerchan
>>7638
>the beef abyss
>the /pol/ shoah
heh
>>7695
>>7696
>factions shill 2:Electric boogaloo
6.0 0 players after a week dont forgetti
No.7701
I created a new meme picture
No.7702
600-300BC?
This can be cool
4. Persian Empire vs greek city states? (~500–449BC)
Greece city states (like SPARTAAAAA) and western turkey city states
VS
Persia and middle east cities.
So player in start will choose to what team he will join.
No.7703
>>7701
I know what you mean :D
>This flags
The answer is:
"u are gay, swiss."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4paLVu0gNcQ
No.7720
>>7700
He has a point, though. Naked Greeking is very much a towny problem. However, nobody wants factions, and we saw this past iteration what happens when an admin implements shit nobody wants (hint: the server lasts two weeks max before somebody goes autism overdrive and crashes it with no survivors). Rather than switching to factions, we should nerf naked greeking.
No.7724
No.7725
>>7724
>>7721
Oh wait is it hghg, can I bet something it's hghg (^:
No.7727
>>7621
>>7638
highly accurate account of 1.0-5.0 i found from july
do not steel
do not criticize
No.7728
>>7727
>3.0
>not the tippest toppest quality the whole way through, even in the midst of the Norsememeing
u think ur a fnny guy dnt ya
No.7730
>>7621
>>7638
>>7642
>>7727
>HURRRR REDS VERSION WAS SO FUCKING GOD
>HURRRRRR I AM FUCKING RETARDED
HURRR DURRRR
No.7732
Will it be worth coming back?
No.7733
No.7734
>>7730
imo 4.0 is overrated it was chaotic af and definitely not well managed
No.7736
>>7734
This.
4 was utter chaos. The relevant iterations, in order, are:
1.0 > 11.0 > 3.0 > 8.0 > 4.0 > rest
inTFCraft wasn't relevant and most people didn't like it but I personally thought it was fun as fuck
No.7741
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>>7592
WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG
ENOUGH WITH THE ANCIENT SHIT.
>muh rome and persia and boy-fuckers
HERE IS HOW YOU EXCITE THESE FAGGOTS AND GET THEM TO REALLY STRETCH THEIR LIMITS
[spoiler] MOTHERFUCKING IMPERIAL JAPAN FOR ALL YOU WEEBSHITS. YOU THINK ISIS WAS FULL OF MEMES? HERE IS WHERE THE TRUE MEMES LIE [spoiler]
This map during the 1300's to the 1500's approx will allow for us to have simplistic firearms as well as [spoiler] weebswords [spoiler]
No.7743
Maybe we could do something in the early 1900's late 1800's, colonialism, age of imperialism, berlin conference etc
No.7744
When can we expect the new server to be up?
No.7745
>>7744
ETA ranges from a minimum of a couple hours to a maximum of a week
Time period complainers can literally just fuck off
No.7746
>>7637
B-Bunch of sluts~! I'm sending you all to the meido gulag!
No.7747
REEEE INCLUDE 400AD HUNS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
No.7748
The server launch is post-poned of 12 days
No.7749
No.7751
>>7749
unfortunately no, we had a crash
No.7752
>>7751
That really sucks
Oh well
Keep us up to date
No.7753
>>7752
LOL YOU FELL FOR MY RUSE
ETA is, min-max: 4h-2d
No.7759
>>7745
Gee Swiss I didn't mean to sound like a faggot.
No.7760
>>7745
the pic was actually more aimed towards:
>>7741
No.7763
Is the IP Address going to remain the same or are we getting a new one
No.7764
>>7763
>>7592
>We are moving to a new server, which also means a new IP, which also means we're currently setting up the server from scratch.
>which also means a new IP
>new IP
I'm not asking people to read the whole thread, just the OP, I've seriously got hundreds of questions answered by this post smh