No.7819
>be server
>bring down brogrammer for accusations of reddit
>Dave comes as an admin and bans everyone who disagrees with him and creates a cult of personality as a head admin
>3 or more people alrealdy banned for disagreeing with him
>he gets super defensive all the time and instead of using logical he preferes ad hominem
>he stands behind the idea that the server should be a friendly hugbox
So, are you happy with finally becoming /r/intcraft? As far as I know not even reddit admins ban so many people for disagreeing with them. Is there any reason you preffered to bring down 12 and put fur_dave into power?
Skype chat with the reddit manchild: http://pastebin.com/jctt7efq
No.7820
I suggest everyone to boycott this server and hope that someone else will take over. If this does not happen I will personally kill it..
No.7821
>>7819
>be server, bring down brogrammer
I decided brogrammer had to step down, without this decision of mine 12.0 would probably still be running
>Dave bans everyone who disagrees with him
I ban people with a cancerous mentality that goes against the very fundaments of what intcraft is. What intcraft is is not an opinion, it's objective facts. It is a fact you are not fit for this server
>3 or more people banned for disagreeing with him
You were banned because if you come back to this server you will ruin it, and most the playerbase is happy with this ban
Beef was banned because he was yelling about the server having "all the syntoms of a shitty iteration". This kind of defeatism is detrimental for the well being of the server
Stryker was TEMPORARLY banned NOT FOR DISAGREEING, but because he was being a cunt. How many people complained about the Realistic Biomes plugin? Almost the entire server. Who complained about it in logical terms and in a reasonable way? Lenin, Neko, bassu, and others. Who complained about it in an obnoxious, retarded way spamming the chat? Stryker
>he gets super defensive
Nice projection
>he stands behind the idea the server should be a friendly hugbox
I stand behing 2 objectivr facts:
1) Intcraft is not for ebin memeraiding
2) The grace period is a time of friendly interaction between roleplaying towns and nations, and a time to build a sense of community
You are a non-/int/ person and a newfag, and are trying to tell us how intcraft should be, this is Muslims in Europe tier
Again I don't ban anyone for disagreeing with me, I ban cunts
>>7820
>I suggest everyone boycott the server
I have more playerbase support and approval than you or brogrammer, this is a retarded idea, I work for the people of intcraft and you are not one of them
>if this does not happen I will personally kill it
Or you could not act as an autistic spoiler child and let people have fun and not try to "fit in" at all costs with people who dislike you
No.7822
>>7821
I also want to add that when I said "fuck off you're banned" I didn't ban you nor did I plan to ban you, but after a while you said you'd login with an alt account once grace ended and that's when I decided to ban you
>using alts
>specifically playing on this server for the PvP
You dun goof'd HARD AS FUCK and TWICE in a single phrase, congrats
Also can you stop sounding like "waaaah the bad admin hates me everyone boycot him :,((((("
No.7824
>>7822
>>7821
Based Dave
You need to be harsher though, stryker needed a perma
You shouldn't have disabled PvP because its useful to have it sometimes in grace, instead you should ban the pvpfags trying to compete for ebin kills literally the minute the server is up
No.7825
>>7821
>I decided brogrammer had to step down, without this decision of mine 12.0 would probably still be running
Yet 12.0 was better than 14.0 and you were not the only one to take credit for its downfall.
>I ban people with a cancerous mentality that goes against the very fundaments of what intcraft is. What intcraft is is not an opinion, it's objective facts. It is a fact you are not fit for this server
>"I decide what is right for this server! I am the head admin and anyone who disagrees with me doesn't know what intcraft is!!!! I swear! A 4chan server needs an admin to set its values!"
>You were banned because if you come back to this server you will ruin it, and most the playerbase is happy with this ban
Beef was banned because he was yelling about the server having "all the syntoms of a shitty iteration". This kind of defeatism is detrimental for the well being of the server
Stryker was TEMPORARLY banned NOT FOR DISAGREEING, but because he was being a cunt. How many people complained about the Realistic Biomes plugin? Almost the entire server. Who complained about it in logical terms and in a reasonable way? Lenin, Neko, bassu, and others. Who complained about it in an obnoxious, retarded way spamming the chat? Stryker
Reddit: The Post
Your job is to govern the server and bring justice and not side with cirlcejerks.
>Nice projection
Terrible meme.
>I stand behing 2 objectivr facts:
1) Intcraft is not for ebin memeraiding
2) The grace period is a time of friendly interaction between roleplaying towns and nations, and a time to build a sense of community
You are a non-/int/ person and a newfag, and are trying to tell us how intcraft should be, this is Muslims in Europe tier
Again I don't ban anyone for disagreeing with me, I ban cunts
There are people that agree with you and people that disagree, but in the end you are a tyrant furfag redditor.
>I have more playerbase support and approval than you or brogrammer, this is a retarded idea, I work for the people of intcraft and you are not one of them
You have the support of a declining circlejerk with many negative traits. Better not advertise this server on 4chan. 4chan is not the place to advertise in a server with such administration and this is a fact.
>Or you could not act as an autistic spoiler child and let people have fun and not try to "fit in" at all costs with people who dislike you
If you have ways to have fun, so do I. Fun is subjective.
tldr; go kill yourself you reddit furfag. you wont stop my autism and you are forming a circlejerk community server which is not what the board itself represents. rename the server.
No.7826
>I also want to add that when I said "fuck off you're banned" I didn't ban you nor did I plan to ban you
Comedy post
>and most the playerbase is happy with this ban
>most
>not the 4-5 people that were butthurt for failing to kill me
Just step down or admit this is not a 4chan/int/ server. This is accurate and should be done.
No.7827
>>7825
>>7826
i dont see anybody complaining about your ban besides you fam
you're not from /int/, dave is
this alone makes his opinion infinitely worth more than yours
haha bye now :D
No.7828
>>7827
haha blobe :D il meme your town first
No.7829
>>7826
>>7825
Stop being a faggot
/intcraft/ isn't for /pol/ or reddit, pls go
Your ban was justified and this thread is making it even more justified
Dave is perfectly justified in cutting the cancer out of the community to heal intcraft as Freddy (pbuh) did a year ago
No.7830
>>7828
>1 retarded pone
>meming osheim
good luck
>>7829
>me
>agreeing with beef
i never thought this day would come
No.7831
>>7829
>/intcraft/ isn't for /pol/ or reddit, pls go
This irony makes me cum all over the monitor, walls and windows.
No.7834
>>7830
Fuck off /pol/ you should be banned too
No.7835
What the fug is going on here
No.7843
>>7834
Never browsed /pol/ in my life not even lying to you my man
>>7835
O fug ids da omega joo run fer yer lief dDDdD:
No.7850
>have grace on
>have PVP off
>turn PVP on while grace is on
>guy kills someone else
>permaban because that someone was in le ebin namefaggot circlejerk
Hey buddy I think you got the wrong door, the Reddit club's two blocks down
No.7853
>>7850
>le ebin pvpfag Burger gets banned for trying to go psycho in grace
>reddit reeeeee
Ebin
No.7861
>>7850
No sorry, this is how it went
>Have grace on
>my tech stuff didn't put PvP off
>suddenly some people start killing each other
>turn PvP off as it should've
>XDA1 is mad about lack of PvP and logs off
>whocares.jpeg
>XDA1 later comes in the skype group sperging about the lack of PvP
>fuck with him and tell him he's banned
>he's not actually banned
>some time later he says he'll just log back in once grace is over, with an alt (because he thinks he's banned)
>admitting to using alts
>admitting to playing the server for the PvP only
>get permaban'd
>wants to ruin the server for literally everyone (using hacks? tons alts? ddos? fuck if I know)
>ever getting a chance of having his ban lifted when he openly admitted to wanting to "destroy the server himself"
No.7878
>>7861
>>7850
Nah that is not how it went. Ignore anything Dave says, burgerbro. He is an illogical reditor. The tumblr femminist tier ones and you don't even need me to present the evidence to see it in his posts here.
No.7879
>>7878
Wrong flag. Don't blame aussies for this.
No.7884
>>7878
You are literally a muslim rapefugee telling the players of intcraft how their server should be
/int/craft was a server of admin intervention from the very start. 2.0 got as far as to only let admins create factions for the players, and only if they were historically accurate
You are not entitled to playing this server. It is a service I am offering with my money, for the minecraft players of /int/. This is a server from /int/ for /int/, you can adopt our culture or fuck off
No.7886
>>7884
all the banter in the world wont save the fact that this is not a 4chan/int/ server. you can dictate it all you want since that is yours and past admins's doings. though no admins have before been so defensive and pushy on their building of the server. kys censorfurfagreddit9gagsissyshitfaggotnarciststicegoisticdumbass
You are the worst admin and hosting the worst iteration, though there is no other choice due to lack of shekels and organisation for a better one so enjoy your utopia. and stop pretending like this is an /int/ server.
No.7887
>>7886
>You are the worst admin and hosting the worst iteration
I've hosted 3.0 and only 1.0, and arguably 4.0 and 10.0 have been better. Most people liked when I was admin in 3.0 and liked the server, and you are literally the only one complaining about 14.0
No.7888
>>7887
This post contains more lies than all posts on this board.
No.7890
>>7888
>lots of people liked 3.0
Objective fact
>you are literally the only one complaining
Objective fact. Look on this board, look in the skype chats, look on the server (oh wait you're banned lmao)
Not. One. Complaint
(Reee bakoon shut up treecutter is lemon's job iunno why he hasn't put the old one back in)
No.7891
>>7890
the old one is back in tbh
No.7892
>>7887
3.0 was the second best iteration imo
1.0 > 3.0 = 10.0 > 4.0 > 8.0 > the rest in no specific order > inTFCraft > Beefcraft
No.7893
>>7890
>he thinks that people in the skype chat don't only dislike but hate the current iteration.
No.7894
>>7890
Stop contradicting yourself in every post.
Also, I wasn't around for 3.0, but all your lies and current retarded administration makes me believe that this is not an objective fact. Get off the server redditor.
No.7895
>>7884
BASED
>>7892
Objective best order
1.0>3.0=11.0>all others
No.7896
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this image made me kek when i woke up
No.7897
Kind of pathetic how hard XDA is trying to be right
No.7898
>>7897
Kind of pathetic how you are trying to disprove me with ad hominem.
No.7899
>>7898
>"reminder swiss dave is a furry reddit SJW"
I think I'm not gonna waste any more time
No.7900
>>7899
Yes, but I present logic even with my insults, while you conclude your posts with those, you fucking dumbass.
No.7901
I was never refuted and dave keeps lying and contradicting himself. Just boycott the server and hope for a better admin that won't attempt to change the server drastically and challenge the status quo.
No.7902
>>7901
I'm glad you're gone
Please move on to another server
Try /pol/craft
No.7903
>>7825
>you are forming a circlejerk community server which is not what the board itself represents. rename the server
>>7826
>Just step down or admit this is not a 4chan/int/ server. This is accurate and should be done
>>7886
>all the banter in the world wont save the fact that this is not a 4chan/int/ server
you really seem to care about the name of the server a little too much lad
not even sure why you're still here or why you even gave a shit about a server for a board you're not from, and where nobody likes you tbqh, move on with your life
besides, why do you claim to know all about /int/ board culture when you've never been there aha
No.7904
>>7903
I care what is best for the average player of /int/craft, because oh I love this community so much and I think for what is best in its interest.
You will never get rid of me until I make this server great again. Redditor admin needs to go.
No.7905
Stryker here, I don't care if you ban me or not at this point because you are worse than brogrammer and are pretty much uber reddit.
I know you won't admit it but this community has been a meme raid and pvp fest for quite some time. I'm sure oldfags will spout their shit about how its untrue and be in denial about it, but i myself am a new fag (joined in 8.0) and do not remember a period of time where pvping hasn't been the basis of the server. When grace ends, all the relevant factions go to war and whoever wins wins and everyone else gives up and quits 90% of the time, making it so a new serb is needed.
These constant resets have made the environment within the server so that even complete buildfags like myself succumb to mermaids, and any buildfaggotry results in you missing out on the fun conflict. This has snowballed and made the server very pvp based.
By disabling PVP you have once again neglected a very prominent factor of the server and have only alienated that much more of its user base. Sure you can say "le im dave and im just getting rid of shitters XDD" but you are still banning someone with similar traits to a large portion of the community. I'm not saying that XDA1 and others aren't some of the most hardcore examples of pvp faggotry, but their extremes don't necessarily stray off from the general community that much. Of course you don't have to accept this fact, but banning people like XDA1 for doing what has been a fundamental factor to this server is autism.
I was only ironically being a cunt btw :^) (it worked)
From what i've seen thus far, a decent proportion of the community either hate you and your reddit ways or think you are reddit but don't really care enough to say anything. Then there are the few oldfags that fellate you because you're le server celebrity owner meme XD and this makes you feel like all of our arguments are just because we are shitters.
No.7906
>>7905
>styker
>calling anyone a redditor
cec
No.7907
>>7905
>I know you won't admit it but this community has been a meme raid and pvp fest for quite some time
Since about the end of 3.0 or 4.0, yes, this is true
>When grace ends, all the relevant factions go to war and whoever wins wins and everyone else gives up and quits 90% of the time, making it so a new serb is needed.
Which, if you ask me, is shit, and the goal is to make it so that this doesn't happen again. Resets aren't funny for anyone (except game_tutorial, the fag)
>These constant resets have made the environment within the server so that even complete buildfags like myself succumb to mermaids, and any buildfaggotry results in you missing out on the fun conflict. This has snowballed and made the server very pvp based.
Again, the goal is to revert this trend
>By disabling PVP you have once again neglected a very prominent factor of the server and have only alienated that much more of its user base. Sure you can say "le im dave and im just getting rid of shitters XDD" but you are still banning someone with similar traits to a large portion of the community
If people can't take a week of PvP absence they simply should not even have joined intcraft to begin with. I'm carrying on the original project of the (de facto) creator of intcraft, Autodonger, I wish to follow his footsteps.
>I'm not saying that XDA1 and others aren't some of the most hardcore examples of pvp faggotry, but their extremes don't necessarily stray off from the general community that much. Of course you don't have to accept this fact, but banning people like XDA1 for doing what has been a fundamental factor to this server is autism.
Yes, the server composition over time has changed, more people than before are PvP-oriented now, and the server itself is more PvP-oriented. This is not what Autodonger created intcraft for, we all ought Donger an intcraft worthy of the name, for giving us this project to carry on
>From what i've seen thus far, a decent proportion of the community either hate you and your reddit ways or think you are reddit but don't really care enough to say anything
If people "hate me" I invite them to speak up and take their stand. The only way I have to properly administrate the server is by receiving feedback. As long as it is a lone autist like XDA1 complaining, I will assume I'm doing alright. If there is more, I have to start reconsider my choices. I don't assume to be right because "le im dave XDD", but if I recieve no negative feedback what else should I assume
Also, thank you. It's a breath of fresh air talking about controversial stuff with someone who's not a retard
No.7908
>>7905
>I'm sure oldfags will spout their shit about how its untrue
I've been there since 1.0 and undisputably wars are the fuel of the server.
Disabling pvp itself isn't so bad - but perma banning people because they don't agree with you, holy fuck what the hell?
No.7909
>>7907
I realize you want to make the community and server "better" overall, but once again a core aspect of the server is this pvp shittery, which attracts more shitters for one big shitfest. I don't mean this in a negative way either, its a by shitters for shitters type of ordeal. I can understand that as owner you'd want to change this to be a more positive environment that can't be described as "by shitters for shitters" but that is what you have. You need to understand that by making this anon pvp shitfest you are going to alienate a lot of your userbase which is never good even if it is in the name of progress.
If you wish to continue I understand, but i'm just trying to say that by doing this you are basically making an entirely new server (even if this is what it used to be) and are going to have understand that people are going to be pissed off and leave, and you shouldn't dismiss this as autists being autists.
On a side note, the reason a lot of people don't speak up is because they are either in fear of being banned or are indifferent as long as they aren't directly impacted.
No.7910
>>7904
>this entire post
AHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
i think u might be lyin mate or at the very least deluded
No.7911
>>7907
>>7907
>Having a debate with a redditor that will start spewing insults at you if you outlogic him.
No.7912
>>7909
I'm ready to face the possibility of "making an entirely new server" (which you correctly point out in the parenthesys, would just be how it used to be), and I'm ready to face people being pissed off and leave. I'm not going to dismiss it as autists or shitter. I understand some of you got used to a version of intcraft that is not the intcraft I'm trying to forward.
Also, it's literally just 2 days of no-PvP left jesus calm down memeraiders lmao
About your side note, really, I can't just stress how important it is for me that people voice their opinion (more than anywhere else on the board because I can actually keep up to date with it, my job doesn't give me much free time to spend on the server itself). I want to make this clear, no one is going to get banned for having a different opinion. I NEED opinions.
>or are indifferent as long as they aren't directly impacted
Pic related
No.7913
>>7911
>thinking my behavior on a memeraid pvp server reflects how i act outside of it
>trying to meme on someone who is literally on your side
No.7914
>>7913
I was memeing dave smh
No.7915
>>7912
>I want to make this clear, no one is going to get banned for having a different opinion. I NEED opinions.
topkek at the OP picture and pastebin
No.7916
>>7915
Except you were not banned jesus christ how stupid can you get. It's a meme you dip
No.7917
>>7916
>ban a few people because they disagree with you
>tell another one that disagrees that he is banned after being buttblasted
>"I-I was pretending. You were not banned!"
No.7918
>>7917
-Literally 2 people have been permabanned
-Beef was banned because he logged in just to say the server is gonna die
-XDA1 was banned for saying he wants to destroy the server on the skype chat (which happened after I said you were banned. SAID, you were banned. You were not banned)
No.7919
>>7904
>I love this community
the community is shit
but it's a bit better now you're gone
No.7920
>>7905
>Stryker here, I don't care if you ban me or not at this point because you are worse than brogrammer and are pretty much uber reddit.
>I know you won't admit it but this community has been a meme raid and pvp fest for quite some time. I'm sure oldfags will spout their shit about how its untrue and be in denial about it, but i myself am a new fag (joined in 8.0) and do not remember a period of time where pvping hasn't been the basis of the server. When grace ends, all the relevant factions go to war and whoever wins wins and everyone else gives up and quits 90% of the time, making it so a new serb is needed.
cancer like you thinking this is an ebin bvb server is the reason we're in this sorry state
fuck off newfag, fuck off /pol/, fuck off american
No.7921
>>7905
> but you are still banning someone with similar traits to a large portion of the community.
there are a lot of shitters
you're one of them
No.7922
>>7908
>I've been there since 1.0 and undisputably wars are the fuel of the server.
proofs
No.7923
>>7911
>using "logic" in any sort of argument or insult
>>>/r/iamverysmart
No.7924
>>7912
oyyy VEYYYYY
stay on target dave, don't let the shitters sway you
i trust in your crusade
No.7925
Beef? Literally who?
>>7923
>being this addicted to chan memes
No.7926
>>7925
why are you still here
pls go and stay go
No.7927
>>7919
Beef tbh fam i thought you were unjustly banned but i haven't had prior experience with you. You're a flaming nigger and should honestly consider getting beheaded by your local sharia police.
No.7928
>>7927
i'm not really banned dave will unban me if i ask, but i didn't have faith in the server and I wasn't planning on playing
it's good that dave's fixing things so, might wait until the next iteration if he does well in this one
No.7929
>>7928
>He thinks that davecraft or intcraft will survive
kek
No.7930
>>7918
>XDA1 was banned for saying he wants to destroy the server on the skype chat
Irrelevant because I said I will destroy the server after I was banned. You are just a redditor who can't take banter.
No.7931
>>7930
But the point is that you were banned about 24h after I said you would be banned on skype, and precisely right after you claimed you'd destroy intcraft
No.7932
>>7929
he's doing what we should have done about a year ago
No.7934
>>7931
I was banned in less than 12 hours and that is when I made this thread. I said I will destroy the server after I was banned.
No.7935
>>7934
>>7933
You were banned monday the 29th of februrary in the year 2016, at 21:30 gmt+1
Show us when you said you'd join the server with alt accounts after grace ended, and you will see the ban came after that
No.7936
>>7935
Is this another straw? Look at the date and time I made this thread.
No.7937
>>7935
dave when are you banning vivian
newfag, keeps making skypes, has the shitter opinion of what intcraft is
No.7938
>>7936
So you are admitting I banned you before you started sperging out on the board, which means you "disagreeing" (read: being a dumb shit) with you is not related to the ban? WOW! Who would have said!
No.7939
>>7938
I am admitting that I made this thread after I was banned. Are you retarded or something?
No.7940
>>7939
and how is making this thread after being banned relevant when I've been talking about the stuff you said on the skype group
Jesus Christ m8 do you get enough sleep
No.7941
>>7940
You've been talking about me saying that I will destroy the server which is why I was banned. Your poor damage control won't save yet another retarded fail.
No.7942
>>7941
But you said you would destroy the server on the skype chat and not in this thread you retard
No.7943
>>7942
Spent some of my valuable time to search for anything like that and I didn't find that. Yet another bullshit
No.7944
>>7943
Search for the time you said you would "join with an alt when grace is over"
That's the moment I decided to ban you
No.7945
>>7944
So you admit that you lied that you banned me because I said I will destroy the server?
On another note, I said that after you said I am banned. You said that you ban me during me arguing with you and during this arguing you started sperging with ad homs.
No.7946
>>7938
Dave, you are Unironically doing with Brogram tried to do
Get rid of key Intcraft culture of meme PvP, which may have not been the original intent, but have been incorporated into Intcraft over a series of generations
And you are following in Brogram's Reddit plan of making the server last longer, to do that, you need a constant supply of newfags because we will get bored easily, by we, I mean most of everyone who wants to play a server with like minded people
Not follow rules or try to make history for a server, but to have fun, the original concept of all games to have fun, not follow rules or a set conformity
Beef and you want to return to old roots, but like Socialism and Capitalism, it's only good on paper and you will need a constant supply to keep this server alive, something which Ghoul can easily do, but Beef does not want, as he want int players
Because in his head, int players are the perfect players, but in reality, they would slurg and form their respective history and try to do some historical revenge, like the Polish Commonwealth invading German it Russia
You cannot be this stupid to not see this happening, that your plans is only fiction and will face hostility, this was applied in 3.0 and look at how that turned out, it was a rush but overall ruin the community, or as beef says
You don't understand what the community wants, you are to lead, not impose your iron fist in a serious way, you are ruining this server
You are stupid. MORON! For not seeing the future consequences
No.7947
>>7946
the only counter-argument I have to this is that 3.0 turned out great
In fact I do fear that what you say is true, I always keep it in mind. But it's theories I derive from fear of fucking up, whereas application during 3.0 shows me it works. So I'd rather risk it and keep going this way
No.7948
>>7946
>Get rid of key Intcraft culture of meme PvP, which may have not been the original intent, but have been incorporated into Intcraft over a series of generations
this is cancer, the people who did it are cancer, this is oldfags fixing intcraft
brogrammer was newfag who didn't know what to do and was trying to make it a normie server
we're making it intcraft again
we can get a supply of newfies from /int/
there is nothing wrong with historical revenge, but that didn't happen at all in 1.0
No.7949
>>7947
of course, i'd rather keep going this way as long as there is support from the playerbase, I'm not going to impose my view on an unwilling server
No.7950
tbh keep goin dave
ur just making bronies, shitters, and norse butthurt so thats fine by me
No.7951
>>7948
Beef, the error in your logic is that if we somehow purge all non /int/, all of our problems would be fixed
You just want /int/craft to return to old roots, but your idea is not plausible, with infinite manpower from /int/ and every person have the same "be peaceful and build" mindset is simple unachieveable
I can see your frustration from your irrelevance, but you have to look at it this way, why did it all change in the first place, why didn't /pol/ integrate but /int/ changed their mindsets with /pol/, reverting back is not the right way
>>7947
Dave, if you are sticking to your plans, don't do what the Brogram did, don't force it on people all at once
And Dave, you will fuck up, every admin ever fucked up
No.7952
>>7951
>And Dave, you will fuck up, every admin ever fucked up
Shieeet :DDD
No.7953
>>7951
most of our problems would be fixed tbh, we don't have any shitters from /int/
the entire population of /int/ doesnt play on this server either, we can get so many more people from /int/
speaking of which thread when
No.7955
>>7953
You have the mentality of a brainwashed bydlo.
No.7956
>>7955
and you have the mentality of a brony
No.7957
No.7959
>>7956
Superior mentality
>>7957
Accept the diversity. We are all newfags under the sun of God
No.7961
>>7951
>with infinite manpower from /int/ and every person have the same "be peaceful and build" mindset is simple unachieveable
you know that "be peaceful and build" mindset would kill the server?
No.7962
dave let us help you and drive /pol/ away fam, after the last /pol/ocaust we will go to pension ok?
t. norse
[spolier]im serious this is the best way to get rid of /pol/[/spoiler]
>>7962
No.7964
No.8011
Wow, so that was Dave's intention all along? Stop the meme raid and ebin PvP culture that has seeped into this server?
If I had known that, I wouldn't have been so hard on him last thread…
It's good to see both that and the threads with your stance on Skype chats. I dunno if this alone will be enough to make the server great again, but it's a great start at least.
You are still gonna get quite a lot of people very very angry at you for changing the game in a way they dislike, so good luck with that, just don't feed the trolls and entertain the shitposters.
But now I gotta ask. Why remove Brogrammer in the first place then? I think he wasn't very big on the whole "PvP" thing either and wanted this culture gone as well. He seemed to be in much accordance with what you are doing now, so why kick him out?
Last thing he coded was that Marriage Plugin, I think so it seems that he was more interested in roleplaying and people getting along than just memeraids all grace-period long.
If you were paying money for his work, I understand "not subscribing" to his services again, but if he was doing it for free, I don't see any logical reason to kick him out.
I heard many people accusing him of "being Reddit" but never quite explained what they meant with that. I assumed "being Reddit" = "I dislike you", especially considering how Swiss Dave is now "being Reddit" as well.
No.8012
>>8011
Minecraft PvP is shit. Always was, always will be.
You can try to mitigate the problem with plugins and mods and maybe even somewhat make it bearable but it will never be properly decent.
Never was the focus of the game so placing blocks down will always have more depth, especially in the vannilla game, than fighting other people.
Games that are made to revolve around PvP never have a round that lasts for weeks or even months.
You have FPS shooters like CS or UT with rounds for 15 minutes.
You have hybrid stuff like Savage: Battle for Newerth and Natural Selection where it can last about an hour.
And noboby cares and likes the game because they know that a lost match doesn't mean much, in about 5-30 minutes, a new one will start.
Meanwhile in "Minecraft ebin MLG PVP" servers, losing your town means you are out for a month or how long it takes to reset the server. Your options become "ally with a bigger town" which feeds into the norsememe again or try to start over again without nobody that defeated you previously finding your base and exterminating you again.
Fun in wars comes from their context. It's not just 2 players taking potshots at each other, it's France vs England that makes the conflict interesting.
If you ignore that part, if you jump to PvP all the time without roleplaying your nation, you are just Barbarians with no culture and doomed to die a slow death due to inbreeding.
As long as all battles are sieges instead of field fights, as long as an entire town at least and an entire faction at worst is always at stake in every single fight, fights will suck ass, few people will bother unless they know they have a massive advantage.
Or worse, they will resort to underhanded tactics like alts and memetowers.
There are servers made strictly for the PvP. Go play on those and see if you like the game like all the edgyness in the air.
That is, if you can find some. Those servers tend to die REALLY fast, since nobody is interested in investing DAYS of their time to build something and be griefed in return.
No.8013
>>8011
>so that was Dave's intention all along?
Duh. I'm an intcrafter. I'm an oldfag. I saved /int/craft from dying 3 times
>you are still getting a lot of people very angry at you
Yes, I know. I don't have the time to properly administrate the server. I've thougten up from my admin experience in 3.0, but I still haven't got enough of a "who cares" mentality to shrug it off either, it seems. Which is why I resigned about uh 3 days ago? I'll soon move ownership to IronFE/Daniel. To see all the hard work my entire team went through to set up the server in less than a week (literally the quickest intcraft setting up we had), going back to the roots of intcraft like people asked, implementing ruins for players to discover, getting back stuff like /leave global, all this work going down the shitter because this playerbase has become way more cancerous than I thought, all of this work to see norsememers go on a rampage to destroy half the server, is unbearable to me. This is not intcraft, but if the people playing it want to think it is and play this way I won't be the one stopping them. Everyone's happier this way
>why kick brogrammer out
He didn't handle the Flammenwerfer issue good at all. I don't remember if he used his admin position to give privileges to himself aswell or not. That might have been a factor if it was true. The setup he brought was good on paper, but just not fit for the server (the economy thing, the tech tree) and he wasn't really prone to criticism either in my experience. And the sheer amount of playerbase going dildoes on him was just a signal strong enough that should not even have made him launch the server. There is a certain flexibility, but when the playerbase says no it's no, this is a golden rule of intcraft. No brogrammer means no brogrammer. Being more liked by the playerbase should've been one of his tasks/goals aswell. I was gonna write another point but I forgot it lolmao.
About the subscriving for his service thing, I was paying the server he was using to set up intcraft. I decided I didn't like his intcraft anymore. This is quite simple a concept
About the reddit thing, do you even go on 4chan. One could be called reddit for expressing an opinion and someone else is gonna be called reddit from someone else on another thread for expressing the opposite opinion. And according to VivianJames "i am reddit" which is quite funny, I guess he would have called the original creators of intcraft reddit aswell, the little whiny cunt
My project was to make intcraft great again, getting it back to its roots avoiding the mistakes we KNEW we made on the road. Evidently the server composition has changed so much that this is not a feasible option anymore
Peace out, Dave's outta server, people I care about were not blocked on skype (or I forgot to block you in case you're not but I don't care about you)
No.8014
>>8012
the norse don't even try to RP they just go full pvp
>""""Northmathr""""
yeah they build great towns but it's still rarely any RP at all
No.8015
>>8014
and sadly no one in /int/craft is really interested in defending their town
all people here (except for the norse) just build a town, then get rekt because they don't give a fuck to spend 2 hours mining gear, then they get mad and rage quit
No.8018
>>8013
>This is not intcraft, but if the people playing it want to think it is and play this way I won't be the one stopping them. Everyone's happier this way
This is what every player that sees what Intcraft is and decides to leave thinks, by the way. Cancerous idiots like that "Imma change the server to what I think is best and you can't stop me" are the real sad bunch.
>sheer amount of playerbase going dildoes on him
Come on, Dave. It's a chan and you guys don't even have IDs (not that it solves anything but whatever). The ability for a very small group of people to manufacture a concensus that everyone dislikes a particular admin\coder is a very simple one, just gotta shitpost enough.
I mean, it's a server full of people that will willingly use alts and proxies to "win at minecraft". Is it really that farfetched to assume a group of 3-5 people alone decided to shitpost hard enough to get brogrammer out? I mean, they don't even need a reason for that, they could have done it for fun. It's a chan, you know there's people that just love their salt. If that was a big reason for him to quit, I'll call you naive.
>when the playerbase says no it's no
So when the playerbase says "no Swiss Dave", it's also a "golden rule of intcraft"? You know this isn't that black and white, especially if it's the servers health that is at stake. Someone has to make unpopular choices that get him hated by people but help the server.
>do you even go on 4chan
Not in many years and I see no reason to go back. I don't care what the retarded definition of "being Reddit" is, but if decisions are gonna be made about it like kicking players out, it's a good idea to define exactly what that is or just accept someone is spouting buzzwords.
No.8020
>>8018
If you actually read what was said in this thread, you could spot what was meant by "reddit" It is not a blind insult like some specific swiss furshit says.
No.8021
>>8018
>This is what every player that sees what Intcraft is and decides to leave thinks, by the way. Cancerous idiots like that "Imma change the server to what I think is best and you can't stop me" are the real sad bunch.
k
>Come on, Dave. It's a chan and you guys don't even have IDs
I can tell you it was not a small group of people false flagging, nor a minority of the server. It's quite handy having almost every single player of the server on skype and constantly play on the server to know what actually each individual player thinks
>So when the playerbase says "no Swiss Dave", it's also a "golden rule of intcraft"?
…yes? and this is why I stepped down? Did you even actually read my post?
>Not in many years and I see no reason to go back
I basically said it is spouting buzzwords. Kid don't get all uppity on me, and don't make this conversation drag longer than it should
No.8023
>>8018
>Someone has to make unpopular choices that get him hated by people but help the server.
this
No.8031
Hello and friendly reminder comming up :^
We memeraided /pol/ only if you look closely, Dacia being a /int/ nation was saved by us for being attacked by shitters who advertised on /b/.
You can ban Northmathr but that wouldn't change anything memeraiding would still exist and the only times Northmathr was made the last three times was due to.
1. Ghoulipate
2. /pol/ influx of newfags hacking and causing mayhem
3. /int/ being a minority on a /int/ serb
Dave refused to ban them and instead decided to open up the serb as soon as possible letting in every /pol/ack and /b/tard into the playground. The iteration died right on that moment.
>but what if we got rid of you !!1
Then enjoy a non-/int/ serb with absolutely no rp
>muh norse never rollplay
Not when removing /pol/ shitters but we have done rp when not playing as norse but other nations.
No.8037
>>8020
>educate yourself shitlord
No, really. Where in the thread is the definition of "being Reddit" explained or detailed? If I were to judge from the previous comments, like you said I should, "being Reddit" can be summed as "you don't share my opinion about how things should be done". Everyone claiming someone else is "being Reddit" is just saying "You want a hugbox that does things in a different way than MY hugbox", because in the end you still want your own hugbox filled with people that agree with you and nobody else. The fact that it doesn't contain anyone "being Reddit" doesn't make it any less of an hugbox.
>>8021
So it was due to a Skype group? Seriously? You made that decision based on the feedback you got from a Skype group?
Because you just made a thread about how Skype groups kinda kill the server…
And didn't the server had about 20-30 people on v12? I don't buy it that you had 20-30 people on that Skype chat. Maybe you only had "those that matter" in said chat and you took their input as the valuable one.
Mate, it's 2016, we have Poal and tons of other ways to make decisions properly. Even a thread talking about this shit before any decision was made would have been better than just torching the place up and closing the server, forcing everyone else to play on v14. At least a proper explanation would have been better.
>Kid
I'm probably older than you, Dave. Seriosuly, don't bring age to a chan, it makes you look like you are 12 and I know you aren't 12.
>>8031
>/pol/ ruins yet another thing
Coming from /v/, this doesn't suprise me one bit. You /pol/edancers never realize just how much people are tired of your nazi schtick and constant redpilling. Even people that agree with you, hate you.
No.8038
>>8031
>enjoy a serb with absolutely no rp
You cumstains keep memeraiding as soon as grace drops so there's no time for RP or politics as soon as war becomes a reality. We've actually met with neighboring cities and signed items as "non-aggression agreements" to keep in our respective towns - maybe europeans would've done the same if it wasn't entirely pointless due to the behaviour of large factions made up entirely of PvP-kids like yourself.
So enjoy your 10-player server that peaks at 20 players when you decide to mobilize your skypegroup full of prepubescent kids to grief people who just wanted to autismblock'n'chill with the occasional politics and related wars.
We've also had what you'd call /b/tards settle nearby, join our nation and build a cozy little tent-village, fitting with the mongolian life of the steppes of ancient times. While we couldn't enjoy any RP after grace ended, we used the first week to meet new people, exchange inspiration with other RP- and buildfags and partook in some banter. Maybe we'll be back in a few iterations and hopefully there'll be real rules like we had in 1.0 and before.
Stop hiding behind which subreddit you're from, it doesn't matter on this server at all. What matters is whether you behave like a bunch of faggots, which you do - and I should know, as I've helped moot found 4chan in 1996 and he's one of the biggest faggots out there. I've only ever been on /int/ twice, though.
>>>/4craft/
No.8039
>>8037
The skype group contains about 50 people, and I said I took into consideration both what people said to me privately, in the group, and ON THE SERVER. Seriously can you not cherrypick my statements tbh (to reinforce this, what people said in the group was almost irrelevant, it's been mostly the other 2 sources)
>maybe you had those who matter…
Now, I do value some people's opinions over other's. Which, being a brogrammer enthusiast, you shouldn't have a problem with. There are shitters and there are good players. As long as the shitters sperged on the group about muh evil brogrammer I didn't give a shit. Actually, the more people were unreasonable about brogrammer the more I "delayed" "getting rid of him". It's when "good players" started coming to me in private, with real concerns, that I took my decision
>we have poal…
>making decision for /int/craft through polls ever since the /int/ playerbase became the minority
"no". Not everyone's opinion matters equally
>even a thread talking about this shit before a decision was made
This is where I start getting irritated. As I said Ben and Chien acted independently of me. Sure I made my mind up to them about wanting to eventually boot brogrammer out but I condemn what they did after that. And they did it while I was sleeping even ffs
>taking "dont get uppity on me kid" seriously
It was rhetorical
No.8040
>>8037
read my post before replying
>>8038
>I've only ever been on /int/ twice, though.
your opinion is worth literally less than 0, /pol/
No.8041
>>8040
>/pol/
jesus christ you don't even know who you're talking with you are an autistic sperglord who should off himself
No.8043
>>8038
>I should know, as I've helped moot found 4chan in 1996 and he's one of the biggest faggots out there.
I seriously have trouble believe you've been here that long if you take a minecraft server this seriously lad xx
Dont try playing the "lol im le ebin slash bee oldfag!!!"
No.8044
>>8040
He's right, we're memeraiding shitters. We do RP and stuff when we're in other towns but at the end, and most of you admitted this when I talked about splitting up the ebin norsememe PvPers, norsememes will blanda up and memeraid more or less the entire server to oblivion. And helping Apullum wasn't really because it was /int/, let's face it. It was because they got attacked by Carthage.
However, I really don't get why hardly anybody tries to unite the server against norsememes, they aren't invincible. They almost got their shit smacked in back in 3.0 and back then the ebin meme PvPers were more active. Teshup for example hasn't played at all since 11.0
I also tried rallying people against them in 8.0, when most of them were in Yerushalayim and we almost got them. The only reason we didn't is because the fighters didn't listen and rushed the cramped as fuck storage where the meme pvpers could blow them the fuck out easily in a narrow environment where you can't retreat and regroup. If we had pushed for the homeblock this would have been a victory.
Ponit is: norsememes aren't invincible, stop cowering in fear of the boogeyman you fuckfaces and blanda up.
No.8045
>>8039
>Sure I made my mind up to them about wanting to eventually boot brogrammer out but I condemn what they did after that. And they did it while I was sleeping even ffs
This is true, I was there when it happened.
No.8046
>>8041
i dont fucking care who he is he isnt even /int/
cucks like you talking about real /int/craft yet cant keep it /int/ is hilarious.
if you started getting rid of /pol/ we wouldnt have had this shit
>autistic sperglord
says the one nuking a entire server his first time as admin and bailing out on the second without warning kek
No.8048
>>8046
this entire post is pathetic
No.8049
>>8044
>blanda up
the thing is I don't want to be in one faction/alliance with people like vespi
No.8050
>>8048
okay you bailed out twice then, whatever.
my point still stands youre not even trying to get rid of /pol/ and then got angry over that others (even your staff) decided to deal with them by memeraiding their towns.
face it theres no /int/craft when /int/ is minority
No.8051
>>8050
there's no /int/craft either when the norse LITERALLY destroy it in a couple hours after grace ends
Look at the lord of norse, the creator of the neverending meme, look at what your /int/ playerbase truly thinks
No.8053
>>8051
i was talking about lenin, not lemoncuckey
>/int/players base thinks of you
the only /int/ left basically is dacia which we saved :^
>bassu
bassu rather suck off /pol/ cock like you so no it doesnt count
>norse LITERALLY destroy it
it was destroyed from the first minute you let /pol/ play instead of actully trying to fix the server.
No.8054
>>8053
Pol being cancer remains a fact but it doesn't change the fact that norsememes usually cause server death, either.
No.8055
>>8053
implying you are fucking /int/
you are the first people in /int/craft who started with some meme fantasy nation, totally breaking the own concept of this server - historical RP
I honestly doubt you tira and your pack of meme pvpers come from /int/, Brigand obviously comes from /pol/, but even if you are /int/ you aren't /int/craft
fuck off to civcraft or whatever server where you can make your own fantasy civs
>ablobloblo Northmathr isn't even that non-RP
>a lot of people didn't RP already abloblobo
that's true but people seeing some fucking Northmathr prevailing through many iterations clearly can see that even the admins don't give a shit about any RP at all anymore
you killed the old /int/craft and you replaced it with what? 2 weeks long iterations? even 2.0 was much better than most of the iterations after 3.0
>ablobloblbobo /pol/ cancer
you keep behaving like you would be fucking 13 yo
no one fucking cares what board people come from as long as they don't sperg out and break the rules
and your muh le Norse were always against the very purpose of this server
No.8057
>>8055
o shit all these accusations fam
yes im /int/ dave even would admit it, we are all /int/ and brigand is /pol/, norse were called norsemen at first so we arent the first with fantasy name.
>killed old /int/craft
we barely existed after 3.0, horsefuckers and /pol/ killed it, and yes /pol/ is cancer, althrough i was memeing about you being cancer you really arent, until you advertised on /b/
tl;dr kys
>>8054
death of the serb but not the death of intcraft, intcraft doesnt even exist anymore due to people like >>8055 and >>8056 advertising and not getting rid of non-/int/
No.8058
>>8057
Yeah, no. Why do you think we even needed to start advertising more? Because all the oldfags left. Gradually, they left the server. This happened from around the time we had 3.0 and that is the same iteration that you guys joined. You made more and more people ragequit or leave the server because it's become a PvP fest, something that is part of intcraft due to warfare but shouldn't be its main concern at all. What remained were a few stubborn people and an influx of pol.
No.8059
>>8057
the /b/ people from:
>>8038
are more /int/craft than you shit norsememes ever were, are or will be
No.8060
>>8058
honestly youre fucking dense fam, i already wrote atleast three times norse only existed in 3.0, 4.0(just early game) 5.0 (at the last day) 7.0 and now.
>>8059
just stop posting you been here most iterations yet belive norse are always norse.
its like youre not even reading what im writing
problem is /pol/ and your cuck attitude that cant even ban a single person
No.8061
>>8060
>>8060
There's plenty of /pol/ people who integrated into the server far better than the norse. Interik and his lads for example. I remember in 10.0 we met to discuss an imaginary border for the future expansion of their Hungary (or Austria can't really remember) and my Helvetia. We walked around, found a nice looking valley between our nation, in the middle of unclaimed land. We gave a fictional name to that valley. Then I wrote a book with the articles regarding the pact of the valley border. Vespi read it, and agreed to the articles, then we both kept a copy signed by each other. We had a little party.
Now this is a great example of what intcraft IS
A great example of what intcraft is not, is you.
No.8062
>>8060
>and your cuck attitude who can't ban anyone
I should have banned you and luci as you came to the server and killed someone. I would've spared intcraft months of agony and shittery
No.8063
>>8061
>>8062
>should have banned me and luci
that wouldnt prevent /pol/ from joining, sorry but i actully honestly love rp and building its just that its pointless when /pol/ will ultimately ruin the server in the end and they themselves dont bother rp.
>interik hungary etc
ive also done that some iterations ago(not exactly the same but you get it), you only seen me memeraid so stop comming up with shitty accusations fam thats all you do, throw all your problems at norse and blame it on us.
>inb4 i blame everything on /pol/
i would write why if you want :^)
>b-but some integrated
this is the same whats happening in say, europe.
you got mass immigration but youll end up with ghettos which never integrate, currently /pol/ influx was that large that its unintegratable because the second they join they see other /pol/acks and not /int/ culture.
ill write you a book why /pol/ is the problem if you want, im not denying i ruined 3.0
No.8064
>>8057
>norse were called norsemen at first
you are not called norsemen, you are called Northmathr
>>8057
>advertising and not getting rid of non-/int/
why would we get rid of non-/int/? the even better question is why won't you get rid of non-/int/ from your own faction like kiri or brigand ?
also /int/ is too small to sustain a proper mc server
>>8058
>something that is part of intcraft due to warfare but shouldn't be its main concern at all
what should be the main concern then?
isn't it "historical RP" server? if we roleplay history, warfare was a crucial matter for all the nations
>>8060
>problem is /pol/ and your cuck attitude that cant even ban a single person
"""""""""'Northmathr"""""""""' should be banned in the first place then
>>8061
I have no idea if Interik and Vespi integrate well into /int/craft but I know that they don't put any effort into defence then cry and rage quit
No.8065
>>8064
it became a tradition
read >>8063
>you got mass immigration but youll end up with ghettos which never integrate, currently /pol/ influx was that large that its unintegratable because the second they join they see other /pol/acks and not /int/ culture.
thats why im against /pol/, theres to much of it
No.8066
>>8063
>that wouldnt prevent /pol/ from joining
but it would prevent the norse cancer from joining
>sorry but i actully honestly love rp
t. citizen of """"""""""""""Northmathr"""""""""""""" in the ancient era
>when /pol/ will ultimately ruin the server
how did /pol/ exactly ruined the server? like ever?
you ruined the server numerous times on the other hand
>currently /pol/ influx was that large that its unintegratable because the second they join they see other /pol/acks and not /int/ culture
there is no /pol/ or /int/ culture, there is 4chan culture
/pol/ and /int/ share 90% of memes
>>8065
>it became a tradition
tradition of breaking RP ? nice
No.8067
>>8066
>there is no /pol/ or /int/ culture, there is 4chan culture
(you)
No.8068
What is the origin for all this /pol/ hate? I understand people want to keep the server for /int/, as it was originally intended, but why can't people from /pol/ come on, not be nazi autists, and play? Considering how most of the players from northmathr came from a pvp factions server I feel like their /pol/ hate is unfair
No.8069
>>8068
all those norse faction serb lads left in 3.0
the hate is due to
>you got mass immigration but youll end up with ghettos which never integrate, currently /pol/ influx was that large that its unintegratable because the second they join they see other /pol/acks and not /int/ culture.
atleast for most people that wants dave to grow a ball or two
No.8070
>>8068
>What is the origin for all this /pol/ hate?
/int/ellectuals feel that they are better than muh nazi edgy /pol/
in fact /pol/ and /int/ are very similar boards, sharing a lot of memes and general theme
>>8068
>Considering how most of the players from northmathr came from a pvp factions server I feel like their /pol/ hate is unfair
obviously the norse /pol/acks somehow """"""''converted"""""""""
No.8071
No.8074
>>8071
that's what I meant saying /int/ is similar to /pol/ but more into brainless memes
No.8075
in my (granted limited) experiences with /pol/ compared to /int/, ive always found that when having any sort of discussion, you have to be careful to reassure everyone you're talking to that you're a far right natsoc just like them, otherwise the thread is derailed into goyimposting every single time.
you may think /int/ is more into memes, but this is because it's far less supr srs guys because its an imageboard
u dip
No.8076
>>8075
I don't browse /pol/ anymore because there are much better places to go if you are interested in politics/economy but even when I was browsing it occasionally, apart from general right-wing bullshit, prejudice and nationalism there were some interesting discussions too.
On /int/ the generals make up for 75% of the board's traffic, and most of the rest are literal meme threads.
No.8077
>>8076
>On /int/ the generals make up for 75% of the board's traffic, and most of the rest are literal meme threads.
fam this is the new /int/, /int/ used to be good a couple of years ago.
i dont know what /pol/ used to be but i still prefer todays /int/ over todays /pol/ consipracy theories threads and trump threads making up 75% of it
No.8079
>people uniornically think that people browsing /pol/ joining the server is the reason the server dies so quickly
Kektus
No.8083
>>8064
>what should be the main concern then?
I don't know if its on purpose but you're misreading what I wrote. PvP is not the main concern. Warfare is part of the main concern, but it's not the only thing intcraft is, or rather, should be, about. The main concern is that /int/craft is on the one hand a glorified banter chat (which it still is to some degree), and that people form civilizations and interact with each other, based losely on a historical context.
No.8084
>>8083
> The main concern is that /int/craft is on the one hand a glorified banter chat
maybe according to the fucking nobility
fuck off with your banter I don't play games to have some banter I meet up with friends
No.8085
No.8086
>>8085
really people want to play a game not to have le ebin bantz
/int/ is a better place for that, of course /int/ernational banter can be a part of this server but not really a concept you base it on
because if you base minecraft pvp server on fucking banter you end up having people just mindlessly spamming global through the grace, not doing anything, making meme cities they don't even care about, then getting rekt because they don't even want to spend few hours working on defence, finding allies etc(this server is about banter after all, right?), crying and rage quitting
No.8087
>>8086
and forcing another useless iteration where they can have banter on global through the grace period and then getting fucking rekt by the norse - the only people who actually PLAY THE GAME
No.8089
>people blaming /pol/ for intcraft being shit
It's not pol, we all know who is ruining serb
P.s it's not the jews either :^^)
No.8093
>>8088
what's wrong with my post though
No.8101
>>8093
the implication that the norse are "the only people who actually PLAY THE GAME" when it's the exact opposite
No.8104
>>8101
they play minecraft and do it good
other people don't give a fuck about pvp aspect of the game, actually most of them don't even care that much about building either
No.8272
HE TRIED SO HARD
AND GOT SO FAR
BUT IN THE END
IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER
IT HAD TO FALL
TO LOOSE IT ALL
BUT IN THE END
IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER