/international/ - International Discussion

>>197

Yeah, but that's because they were denied health care. If they weren't, many of them wouldn't have died of typhoid fever even if they got it.

>>241

Did Europeans provide health care to the natives?

If no, then by your logic, it was a genocide.

>>195

>>245

of course the europeans provided healthcare to the natives. the natives of north america got blankets full of small pox.

because thats so considerate.

>>251

I think that was only one isolated incident. From what I understand, most natives had already been hit pretty hard by smallpox just from contact.

>>191

AnLushan rebellion wasnt a genocide, just a civil war.

The genocide of the Zhungar by the Manchus was a pretty succesful genocide, with a low casualty number but it effectively wiped out the zhungar population.

I will stand behind Tibet. Although I support the Chinese government for their dedication to the people, I doubt their interest when it comes to Tibet. There is expansion of territory to aid the development of lesser nations and to set them on the right path, and there is deprivation of the resources of lesser nations for the benefit of the people that do not belong to that lesser nation. That is not communism, and it is not the goal of the people. It is not providing to the people. It is simply a waste of time. Tibet has not been given the stance that the people want, and within a communist state that is an absolute failure. The people come first, and the people will provide for the state so that the state can provide for the people. In the case of Tibet, the people were deprived of their right to rejoice and gladly provide for the state out of thankfulness, instead they were forced to take the state and in return gain nothing; They have not embraced communism and thus communism has not embraced them, leading to a state in which there is no equality or rights for the people, only individuals. The monks in Tibet may be enlightened but they do not know how to provide for the people, and thus they are involuntarily providing for the states of the capitalists. The state should let the people vote on independence, and if the people voted to for independence, the state should respect that and provide them with the tools that they can use to build their own independent state from within the state that oversees them. With time the two would be separated by the people, for the people, and all the people would be free and happy and prosper in their great states.

>>209

The struggle between the Chinese and the surrounding nomadic people is ages old.

By now the Chinese as a sedentary farming culture won this struggle.

They are also treated pretty well and get benefits and preferential treatment to Han-Chinese, which hasnt been the case for conquered people in must of history.

Tibetans should just deal with it.

And butthurt monks can go fuck themselves.

the rarest is right here

Rare?

I believe I'm the only poster from Turkmenistan here, thus I am in possession of a rare flag.

>>306

first the crane

then the stampede

what comes next?

>>284

>suudi arabistan

wew

what the fuck does stan even mean?

>>290

-(i)stan is Persian suffix for countries; it's derived from PIE word root *steh₂-, "stand", which is also the root of English word "state"' (as in "country"). It means roughly "place of", usually it's used with names of ethnic groups to make words meaning their homeland.

they didn't move around as much

>>259

Exactly, that's why they should be more relevant to the underlying population structure. A warlord or two like Genghis Khan cannot change their pattern.

>>262

I think mt is just more of a mystery. Culture and language usually follow the y-haplogroup. I think that is why people are more interested in y than mt.

>>242

But, in Poland, places like Pomerania that used to have high percentage of German population before WW2, were resettled with people moving in from the rest of the country, like that blue area. Almost three million people moved into the orange area from the blue area by 1950.

Yet, despite that, you can still see the old borders underneath. What is happening?

>>243

The division may also be partially due to infrastructure and the overall layout of the landscape, since nobody is going to draw a border through the middle of a city or the middle of a forest barely anyone knows.

>>243

>were resettled with people moving in from the rest of the country

Yeah, but weren't these resettled people coming from the areas which were annexed by the soviet union, mostly?

>>247

lazy wikipedia copypaste from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recovered_Territories because I didn't bother looking through legitimate sources

People from all over Poland quickly moved in to replace the former German population in a process parallel to the expulsions, with the first settlers arriving in March 1945.[60] These settlers took over farms and villages close to the pre-war frontier while the Red Army was still advancing.[60] In addition to the settlers, other Poles went for "szaber" or looting expeditions, soon affecting all former eastern territories of Germany.[60] On 30 March 1945, the Gdansk Voivodeship was established as the first administrative Polish unit in the "recovered" territories.[61] While the Germans were interned and expelled, close to 5 million settlers[62][63] were either attracted or forced to settle the areas between 1945 and 1950. An additional 1,104,000 people had declared Polish nationality and were allowed to stay (851,000 of those in Upper Silesia), bringing up the number of Poles to 5,894,600 as of 1950.[57] The settlers can be grouped according to their background:

•settlers from Central Poland moving voluntarily (the majority)[62]

•Poles that had been freed from forced labor in Nazi Germany (up to two million)[62][64]

•so-called "repatriants": Poles expelled from the areas east of the new Polish-Soviet border were preferably settled in the new western territories, where they made up 26% of the population (up to two million)[62][64]

•non-Poles forcibly resettled during the Operation Vistula in 1947. Large numbers of Ukrainians were forced to move from south-eastern Poland under a 1947 Polish government operation aimed at dispersing, and therefore assimilating, those Ukrainians who had not been expelled eastward already, throughout the newly acquired territories. Belarusians living around the area around Białystok were also pressured into relocating to the formerly German areas for the same reasons. This scattering of members of non-PolisPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>248

Ok, this cleared up some misconceptions.

>>253

Ever been wondering about the etymology of the word itself?

It can be broken down into two Old Norse root words: the first being áss, and the second being bǫrgr. The first one, áss, is perhaps more familiar in its plural form, æsir, and means "god" (more specifically, of the Æsir house only), while bǫrgr (not to be confused with borg, "fortified town") means a castrated boar.

>>255

im castrated boar god

>>129

Montenegro was a separate state in Yugoslavia from the beginning; it became independent from Turkey back in 1700 and it was it's own state in 2nd Yugoslavia. I'm not sure though what was the political motivation behind breaking such union.

They want to join the EU more quickly than Serbia which is held back by the Kosovo dispute.

>>145

>montenegro

>wanting to join EU

montenegro is russian as fuck, russians own almost half of montenegro and there are talks to establish a russian naval base there

>>146

>Montenegro has refused a request by the Russian Federation for permission to install a military base in its Adriatic port of Bar to provide logistical support to the Russian naval fleet in the Mediterranean, the Podgorica-based independent newspaper Vijesti said on Thursday.

http://dalje.com/en-world/montenegro-refuses-russian-request-to-use-port-of-bar-for-military-purposes/492568

>Montenegrin Defence Minister Milica Pejanovic Djurisic declined to comment on the newspaper report, and her ministry said in a press release that in regular contacts as part of its bilateral and multilateral activities the ministry had never discussed the possibility of foreign military or naval bases being opened in Montenegro.

>The press release said that the Montenegrin government was unequivocally committed to the country's strategic priorities concerning Euro-Atlantic integration.

http://dalje.com/en-world/montenegro-refuses-russian-request-to-use-port-of-bar-for-military-purposes/492568

>Montenegro's population is overwhelmingly pro-EU, with 76.2% being in favour according to polling and only 9.8% against, in October 2009.

http://balkandata.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/cedem_october09.pdf

>>149

That is pure shit , I've been there many times and everyone says their president is traitor and their own statistics say that about 30%of population are for NATO

I honestly don't think anyone has any idea

I don't know who the winner is but the loser was Serbia

The breakup of Yugoslavia was caused by the fact that Serbia wanted more control over Yugoslavia. As for the winner, it was everyone BUT Serbia. However, all of the countries involved got ravaged by war. From what I'm to understand, Slovenia got hit the least.

>>222

>20 years later no Balkan country has it's industry except Slovenia maybe

except that croatia pretty much owns slovenia now

>>141

großdeutschland/10

>Macedonia exists

Remove that

>>215

>Norway

>rich off oil rigs

>environmentally conscious

rožlel

>>217

You know, I just realised something…

Norway has a reputation for caring about the environment…

Sweden is supposed to be a utopia…

Finns claim to be white…

The only thing Nordics are good at is lying. No wonder the Jew hates them; they're his only competition!

>>220

And Denmark is supposed to be the happiest country.

>>181

I really like the flag of Kazakhstan as well.

It's one of my favorites.

>>199

Holy shit, I'm pretty much a vexfag but I've never seen those before. This is hilarious.

>>182

Wow, there actually are threads on that board. Thanks, anon!