/international/ - International Discussion

>>209

I don't support the #FreeTibet faggotry, but I believe China needs to be dissolved for the benefit of people and their cultures, which includes Tibetans. But I think the same about any Imperial state; as inevitable as their existence is, the world would be a better place without them.

>>209

I think Han chinese are a majority now

if there was a vote there now the current inhabitants would probably vote to stay in china

>>212

>In 2011 the Tibetan population was 3 million.[19] The ethnic Tibetans, comprising 90.48% of the population,[20]

It says most Han immigrants living in Tibet aren't registered as living there though.

>>213

I was thinking of Lhasa, not Tibet as a whole

lol does anyone here actually think the tibetan monks ruling tibet were peaceful and merciful compared to the new chinese overlords?

They were autocratic shitheads who treated the commoners like filth. People were taxed for everything, hell you were also taxed for being born(not making this shit up). and if you don't pay your tax you would get sent to the torture chamber.

>b-but buddhism says you can't kill people

That may be true, but the people in charge found a cute hole in the system in which they can torture people without killing them.

The reason why most people think tibet and buddhists were peaceful nature lovers was because the ones who escaped tibet and told everyone about the life in the country were the rich autocrats themselves.

>>257

Listen to this guy. He knows his stuff about brutal theocracies.

>>209

I believe in self determination. Regardless if it was a shithole pre-PRC. Just because it was historically a brutal theocracy, they shouldn't have their national identity compromised.

>>260

thankfully I don't live in one :^)

>>261

I agree that tibet should be independent from the culture destroying PRC fags, the only thing I'm trying to explain is that tibet wasn't historically peaceful and nice like everyone tries to paint it as.

I will stand behind Tibet. Although I support the Chinese government for their dedication to the people, I doubt their interest when it comes to Tibet. There is expansion of territory to aid the development of lesser nations and to set them on the right path, and there is deprivation of the resources of lesser nations for the benefit of the people that do not belong to that lesser nation. That is not communism, and it is not the goal of the people. It is not providing to the people. It is simply a waste of time. Tibet has not been given the stance that the people want, and within a communist state that is an absolute failure. The people come first, and the people will provide for the state so that the state can provide for the people. In the case of Tibet, the people were deprived of their right to rejoice and gladly provide for the state out of thankfulness, instead they were forced to take the state and in return gain nothing; They have not embraced communism and thus communism has not embraced them, leading to a state in which there is no equality or rights for the people, only individuals. The monks in Tibet may be enlightened but they do not know how to provide for the people, and thus they are involuntarily providing for the states of the capitalists. The state should let the people vote on independence, and if the people voted to for independence, the state should respect that and provide them with the tools that they can use to build their own independent state from within the state that oversees them. With time the two would be separated by the people, for the people, and all the people would be free and happy and prosper in their great states.

>>209

The struggle between the Chinese and the surrounding nomadic people is ages old.

By now the Chinese as a sedentary farming culture won this struggle.

They are also treated pretty well and get benefits and preferential treatment to Han-Chinese, which hasnt been the case for conquered people in must of history.

Tibetans should just deal with it.

And butthurt monks can go fuck themselves.