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12720f No.10314

Hey /islam/ brothers.

I am curious of knowing wheter you are european converts, middle eastern or anything else.

Are most of you born from muslim families ?

http://strawpoll.me/6065286

4564e6 No.10315

You forgot latin american.


12720f No.10316

>>10315 Oops, sorry. I should have put it.


1f40b2 No.10318

Irish American


79a90b No.10320

>>10316

You also forgot Native American (I'm not one, but I personally know a Native American Muslim)


9cfc31 No.10335

>>10314

why are there african and north africa?


1f40b2 No.10337

>>10335

Probably a basic delineation between the Nubian/Semitic Egyptians, Libyans, etc and the Congolese or Afrikaner Africans.


f12195 No.10970

Bosnian-Australian.

Communism really did a number on our religion. I'd call myself

a muslim. I eat Halal, pray as often as possible, go to the Masjid when i can. But i'd like to improve. I'd like to get away from the culturally ingrained habits that are unislamic. But i feel like im in too deep. Im married to a Buddhist. And i have use to drink. I dunno what to do. It kinda seems like the whole world wants to make sure nobody is religious anymore. Especially muslims.

So… Do i count as muslim?


1f40b2 No.10971

>>10970

>>10970

>Do i count as muslim?

Have you declared Shahadah?

If yes, then yes.

If no, then no.

We're all sinners, brother. We all sometimes stray from the path. Having a glass of vodka doesn't make you stop being Muslim. You just pray forgiveness and try to be a better Muslim in the future.

Allah does not abandon you, even if you abandon Allah.


f430ea No.10977

>>10970

You are Muslim. Marrying a Buddhist is not permissible and is sin. Being a sinner doesn't nullify your Islam, but I would seek a Scholar on how to handle the marriage situation.


1f40b2 No.10979

>>10977

Muslim men are allowed to marry non-Muslim women. It would be better for her to convert, but he didn't say that he had declared shahadah; just that he lives his life in some accordance with Qur'an.

That declaration of faith is essential to Islam and one cannot be Muslim without it.


f430ea No.10995

>>10314

>Muslim men are allowed to marry non-Muslim women.

Muslim Men are only allowed to marry a disbeliever if they are both:

1. Chaste

2. Jew or Christian

source: surah Ma'idah (5:5)


0373ca No.10996

>>10995

Buddhist women tend to be chaste. Also, she does not have to be chaste at this point.

He said he is married, not he is going to marry.

They're already married and no one on earth has the authority to tear that asunder.


f430ea No.11003

>>10996

>Buddhist women tend to be chaste

Still wouldn't be permissible. Only chaste women from among the Jews and Christians are permissible.

>He said he is married, not he is going to marry.

Yes, I suggested seeking a scholar on how to handle the marriage situation. Obviously it wasn't an Islamic marriage. I'm a revert myself and my Western Marriage was considered void. I had to correct my marriage after becoming Muslim.


0373ca No.11004

>>11003

>considered void

Nobody has that authority. Allah brought men and women together through creation, man has no say in the matter.

However, I'm still waiting for the answer to whether or not he actually declared shahadah.

He said he lives "like a Muslim", but that means nothing if he didn't declare his faith. Anyone can put on a turban and eat halal. Means nothing without a declaration of faith. It is the first pillar of Islam.


f430ea No.11005

>>10314

>Nobody has that authority. Allah brought men and women together through creation, man has no say in the matter.

It is based on the Quran and Sunnah, not any man's wishes. It was only brought up when my wife and I brought it up to the Imam. I'm very grateful for the help I received in this matter. Our marriage is stronger now. Allah has prescribed to us the proper way to become husband and wife.


8af156 No.11009

So glad flags are back.


dbf645 No.11011

>>11009

Me too. I actually prefer the country flags. Gives us a sense of diversity of nations.


f9122a No.11026

French Muslim married Mali Africa


e686ef No.11038

>>11004

Bosnian dude from before.

Sorry if i caused a disagreement.

Yes i have said Shahadah.

As for my wife, she's culturally raised as "shinto-buddhist" but largely rejects the idol worship and such that goes with shintoism. The buddhist part means she believes in one God. She also actively encourages my religion and has recently taken to reading here and there about Islam. She also wants our kids to be Muslim. I'd feel wrong divorcing her considering


e7c30c No.11040

>>11038

You don't have to justify anything to us, brother. Your marriage is between you, your wife, and the Creator.

Especially don't take marriage demands from people who aren't married. ;) My wife is Christian (Methodist) and neither her church nor my masjid have any say-so in it.

Allah brought us together and no man has authority over that.


2d0d9b No.11042


e7c30c No.11043

>>11042

Yes, but after two people are already married, then this no longer applies.

It can prevent future marriages, but no man has the authority to break up an existing marriage.

I'm sorry you can't wrap your head around that, but that's the way it is. I suggest you respect Qur'an and Allah's word and stop trying to break up marriages.


6a0e46 No.11082

>>11003

First most Buddhist sects acknowledge the existence of a single supreme deity. This is a solid starting point for inter-religious dialogue.

Second Buddhism is first and foremost a non-theistic moral philosophy that fell under the framework of existing local religions. Therefore I don't see why we can't find common ground in Buddhist and Muslim beliefs in a similar way.

Second, Allah didn't send a prophet to the people of the East, therefore I don't see how we can judge them for not following the rules set forth for the People of the Book.

I believe a special understanding has to come with the Buddhists in the Islamic faith to facilitate conversion. I'm not saying we should innovate or introduce something new, but merely that we should understand that long distances and cultural barriers prevented the Abrahamic faith from reaching these peoples.


f430ea No.11086

>>11082

>Allah didn't send a prophet to the people of the East

This is false. Please read the Quran. Allah sent messengers to every nation. (10:47) (16:36) We do not know about all the Messengers Allah sent (40:78).

None of what you said matters to the fact the Quran forbids marriage to any non-muslim except women who are Chaste among the people of the book. Your rationale doesn't mean anything next to the Quran and Sunnah.

>>11043

>I suggest you respect Qur'an and Allah's word

Yet you give no proof from the Quran for what you are saying.

I honestly did not get the impression he said Shahada after marrying the Buddhist. If you read his first post, he mentioned being married to a Buddhist along side his drinking alcohol. I also never advised him to break off with her and suggested he seeks a scholar.

/modernislam/ is a thing btw.




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