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a3fca6 No.11023

Greetings, i want your advice. This will be a bit long but i need to explain my whole situation.

I am a ethnic (white) Swede with no family connection to Islam or the Middle East whatsoever. Or to religion at all, for that matter, all my relatives and most others around seem to think religion is stupid, more or less.

Since my early teens i have been interested in Islam, along with a passing interest in other religions, but i always felt that Islam was something for me, but i could never find a way to get into it. There are a lot of Muslim immigrants around here now, and there are actually several mosques in this city, but they are all very "ethnic"-one Kurdish, one Iranian, one Somali, and they don't advertise in Swedish or welcome Swedes in any way, as most of them probably can't speak it at all.

So i always felt that there was no clear way to become a Muslim if you weren't born into it, and judging by all the signs there are very few actual ethnic Swedes who have done so. Curiously, i had some Middle Eastern friends who were all pretty negative towards it, some even became irreligious Christians just to distance themselves from their upbringing, so they have been of no help.

I have checked all over the Web, of course, but everything related to "Swedish Muslims" seems to be all about immigrants and not aimed at ethnic Swedes at all. The websites of the mosques and organizations here are mostly written in Arabic or some other language, or in such bad Swedish it doesn't make any sense at all, further showing they have few if any ethnic Swedish participants, and don't care to get any either.

So what do you suggest i do in this situation? Moving is out of the question, and i wouldn't even know to where.

3cad81 No.11024

The best thing for you to do is to realize that Islam isn't about ethnicity. Allah has challenged you.

Go to any mosque. Whichever is closest. Someone will speak Swedish or, at least, English. Do not concern yourself that you're the only ethnic Swede in the room. It should not matter to you, nor to them.


7613e1 No.11027

just a question. are migrants there like what /pol/ describes them?

oh and The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), during his Last Sermon in Minâ, said: “O people! Your Lord is one Lord, and you all share the same father. There is no preference for Arabs over non-Arabs, nor for non-Arabs over Arabs. Neither is their preference for white people over black people, nor for black people over white people. Preference is only through righteousness''

May Allah guide you to the right way


957d18 No.11028

>>11027

Nothing is like /pol/ describes it. /pol/ is always wrong.


43ce6c No.11029

>Curiously, i had some Middle Eastern friends who were all pretty negative towards it, some even became irreligious Christians just to distance themselves from their upbringing, so they have been of no help.

Or you could try to understand why they became disenchanted with Islam. Perhaps their stories will shed light on alternatives worth exploring.


c90120 No.11030

>>11028

And if you don't agree, DIE INFIDEL!


0115f4 No.11031

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>>11028

>t. Ibrahim bin Mohamed, first generation Swiss refugee


887652 No.11032

>>11023

Islam looks appealing to you because Islam presents itself as strong. Islam is order, a direction. You have been given nothing resembling this in your life. You say yourself, your family are atheists, they offered you nothing.

So now you find yourself adopting the religion of yet another group of invaders. All because your parents were too weak to raise you in the way of your ancestors. Shameful.


000000 No.11033

Skärp dig för helvete. Varför vill du gå med i en skum ökensekt? Varför går du öppet över till invaderarnas sida?

Sådana som du är de mesigase jävla hanrejerna på jorden. Ta och sälj din röv i Dubai eller nåt istället.

(Watch it, Son. Abuse TOR, Lose TOR)

9595a1 No.11034

>>11023

Don't you [foul language]ing dare Sven


46d067 No.11035

>>11030

Yep … that's pretty much how /pol/ thinks.


91f277 No.11036

>>11032

So, you think that the only reason anyone would want to convert to Islam is that it's strong? I suppose in a way that's right. The truth is always stronger than falsehood.

>>11033

What?


490c37 No.11037

>>11032

If you truly believe that lines on a map delineate nations, then you will learn a very sad lesson on the Day of Judgement.


8e9124 No.11039

>>11032

Ooh someone on a mission from the Christian board.

Anyway OP. Maybe go outside of sweden and you'll have less of a problem. I've been a few countries and never seen an ethnic exclusive mosque. I've seen some built by particular groups. My local one is Turkish but we have all manner of nationalities there. What reason do they have to not include others?


bd23c7 No.11046

>>11023

Go kill yourself, race traitor!

(This is not /pol/.)

de188d No.11047

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73061c No.11048

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>>11023

Ditt äckliga, patetiska djävlar missfoster.

Må gudarna utmäta ett straff du förtjänar och må systrarna Urd, Skuld och Verdandi spinna dig fördärv.

(Google Translate is a thing.)

65f3cb No.11051

>>11045

>the murder of your own parents and siblings

I'd like to know where Islam pushes that or most of the stuff you've said.


91f277 No.11052

>>11051

It doesn't. /pol/ is trying to do their thing.


a3fca6 No.11148

Why are these openly anti-Muslim posts allowed, but not advertising another Islam board?


91f277 No.11150

>>11148

Because freedom of speech and expression is allowed. People don't have to be pro-Islam, but I do expect them to be civil if they're anti-Islam.

If you want to advertise your board, pay the site admin for ad-space.


43ce6c No.11214

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Hey OP, how about…


b5c916 No.11215

>>11023

As someone else who converted to Islam I had some of the same questions. Know that Islam is not here to change peoples ethnic identities it is perfectly okay, keep embracing Swedish things. Also other Muslims when teaching you about Islam may have some culture bias on how they practice the religion so be aware of that, just learn how to separate what is culture and what is Islam.


fce9cc No.11227

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>>11028

Whatever you say.


91f277 No.11228

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>>11227

You're gonna need a bigger cherry picker.


65f3cb No.11229

>>11227

>MEMRI TV

Pretty sure that organization was founded by some spiteful Jew, which uses it to attack Islam and the Muslim world.


d96d0c No.11234

>>11227

So just because some random guy on the internet said necrophilia was okay means it is? There is no hadeith or Quran verse supporting necrophilia.


6ea123 No.11235

>>11234

It's just one of those moments where an ignorant cleric tells his ignorant followers something that ignorant non-Muslims can say "eww!" about.


b5c916 No.11236

>>11235

It doesn't even make sense though, Muslims are suppose to bury dead bodies immediately.


6ea123 No.11238

>>11236

Oh I know. Ignorant statements only make sense to the ignorant.

I wish every Muslim in the world would read Qur'an, but sadly there are many Muslims in the world that are barely literate and rely solely on a cleric to tell them what to believe.


c01430 No.11239

>>11238

With all the thing of "The Quran cant only be readed and interpreted in Arabic" that Wahhabi Shills spam everywhere you cant blame them trough.


6ea123 No.11240

>>11239

Wahhabi is a school of thought that encourages education and literacy. Muhammad(صلى الله عليه و سلم) was basically illiterate and he was given Qur'an and he gave it to his people in the same way it was given to him.

Don't fall for the demonization of Wahhab until you see it for yourself. I've compiled some of Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab's writings. I encourage you to read and think for yourself.

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/po5mrngkacc5w/Muhammad_ibn_Abd_al-Wahhab


b5c916 No.11241

>>11240

Wahhabism is too far away from the rest of Sunni Islam for me and it seems a bit extremist too. There is nothing wrong with education and literacy (in fact it is a great thing) but all other schools of thought encourage this too so it's not unique to wahhabi.


7a7d1b No.11242

>>11241

I think you need to read a little more about Muhammad ibn Abd Wahhab. Salafi only care about what is authentic and proven in the religion. Most hate towards Salafiyyah comes from Shi'a, innovators and liberal muslims. The very people who can't give anything authentic to back up their deviations.


b5c916 No.11245

>>11242

Still it's not for me. Islam is all about being moderate. Wahhabi seems like a reaction to Sufism which was too lenient for my tastes, wahhabi are too strict. You need to strike a balance.

Being too lenient can be bad because it leads to people trying to find excuses so they can do things that were made haram, and being to strict is the opposite, because it leads people to look for excuses to make haram that which is normally halal.


6ea123 No.11246

>>11245

So long as you've made your decision out of study, then it is the path Allah has guided you on.

Personally, I follow the Ibadi path, so the Sunni/Shi'a schism means very little to me.


1ebcd5 No.11296

OP Bro don't be an idiot. This is a bad time for muslims. According to hadith prophecy millions of muslims will be killed by people of other faith. This was foretold and there is nothing that can stop this. Just be who you are, be safe and help muslims(if you want).


414aee No.11328

>>11239

But Saudis give quran translation for free. Send a letter to saudi embassy in your country, you'll get one.

Translation is not forbidden. You just need to acknowledge it would never as good as understanding it in arabic.

>>11023

It's sad to hear that many ethnicities isolate themselves like that. If you live in a big enough town there should be a more cosmopolitan islamic centre.


7a7d1b No.11339

>>11328

I'm starting to realize that anyone who uses the term "Wahabbi" doesn't care about facts or reality. It is a scapegoat for people who follow innovations and secular ideologies.


7870cc No.11380

>>11339

I used to use the term "Wahabbist" to refer to Salafi Jihadists, but this board actually taught me that Wahab was a scholar and teacher, not a movement.


7a7d1b No.11410

>>11380

Alhamdulillah, I am glad you understand now. We all mistakes, myself especially.

That is part of the problem too. This term is so actively used now, people associate it to a certain group not even knowing what it means. I have read blogs from Muslims using this term and I am shocked at how strong their opinions are with how little they know.




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