/islam/ - 8ch Masjid

Most of the time, I don't. If it's a Muslim, then I will seek to correct him or her; otherwise it's not really my concern.

Unless it's being used to physically harm my brothers and sisters, people have the right to be stupid, ignorant, and ill informed. The Prophet doesn't need me to defend him, rather; I hope he will defend me before Allah when the time comes.

>>11243

I honestly don't know how to respond to ignorance of this measure. Some people are so ignorant I don't think you can talk sense to them.

As far as Christians as a whole, we are to warn them of their disbelief. The Quran spoke beautifully about this issue. As far as their claims, they are laughable as their text is extremely unauthentic and the whole New Testament is weak under the conditions of authenticating reports in Islam. The Injeel was given to Esa Ibn Maryam (صلى الله عليه و سلم) and they don't have it.

We do not follow conjecture as they do. Asking them for proof and authenticity will surely silence them or make them make fools of themselves.

>>11243

I would attempt to point out all the flaws in his argument such as him claiming we worship the moon and stars because it is on some flags in the Muslim world. The moon and star symbol came from the ottoman empire and before that there was no symbols for Islam except the shahada and even in the time of the prophet they just used blank flags.

It goes to show you that Islam is so perfect that the only way people can "win" arguments against it Islam by completely misrepresenting Islam's side of things or flat out lying, and playing on ignorant Muslims lack of knowledge of their own religion.

In short the only way to respond to this is with patience and knowledge.

>Allah is the name of the moon god

do christian Arabs worship the moon god too?

>>11243

I would say the majority of people who are out to criticize Islam have no interest in the truth or what we actually have to say. 95% of conversations i've had with people boil down to this:

>Let me tell YOU what you believe!

>I'm arguing louder therefore im right

>I'll repeat the question until you get tired of my [foul language] and give up, thus making me the winner (i call this the dawkins tactic)

>anything you say that proves me wrong is taqiya (as i choose to define it)

Usually these arguements assume two major things. Firstly that Muslims are a homogenous group with telepathic minds we use to co-ordinate a somehow commonly understood but apparently vague aim of Islam.

Secondly that the entire aim of arguing isnt to get to a truth. Its all about winning.

So why bother? I think the funniest thing i've ever heard was that Muslims wanted to change the Australian flag. As in all Muslims, in spite of existing in Australia 150 years + suddenly and collectively decided we want to change the flag. Like… [foul language]ing why? So much why. But its the perfect example of what im talking about.

Just putting this here (for clarification)

"And of His signs are the night and day and the sun and moon. Do not prostrate to the sun or to the moon, but prostate to Allah , who created them, if it should be Him that you worship." - Quran (41:37)

>>11253

I think some of the funniest stuff I get just from casual conversation is people asking me if I know "such and such .. he's a Muslim like you".

There are 1.7 billion of us. I know maybe 20-25 Muslims on a first name basis, all at my mosque.

>>11321

>As a muslim what is our ultimate goal?

To worship Allah and obey his legislation from the Quran and Sunnah.

>Let's 100% of the earth's population becomes muslim. What are we supposed to do then?

This will only happen after the return of Easa Ibn Maryam (صلى الله عليه و سلم).

>>11325

That's it? I thought angels are supposed to obey like a drone. I say it with great sadness that this is the precise reason muslims are the most unproductive people on earth. We have no higher aspiration besides doing what Allah told us to do. We never invent things but consume what others do. We are parasites!

>>11333

>We have no higher aspiration besides doing what Allah told us to do

"The only saying of the faithful believers, when they are called to Allah and His Messenger (SAW), to judge between them, is that they say: "We hear and we obey." And such are the prosperous ones"

>>11321

This life is not our main destination. Our main goal and destination is jennah. To get there we simply need to worship Allah and do the things that make Allah happy (good deeds).

>>11333

I'm starting to think you are a troll, are you unaware of the golden age in Islamic civilization? While Europe was going through the dark ages we were inventing algebra and making several scientific advances.

If you want things to get better for Muslims now go out there and help the WHOLE world (not just the Muslim world), start charities, feed the homeless, treat the sick, and visit the old.

>>11343

Come on man, just because I'm having doubts about my religion(islam that is) doesn"t mean I'm a troll. I'm just trying to make islam great again. I think we should encourage fellow muslims to bring back the golden age instead of killing infidels.

>>11359

>infidels

Yeah its very clear you are not a real Muslim, go roleplay somewhere else.

>>11359

>make islam great again

>infidels

The stink of /pol/ is thick here.

>>11379

It's most likely Donald Trump come here to troll us.

>>11381

If we could convert Trump to Islam, that would be a great victory indeed.

>>11387

Hey that idea is not too far off, remember what people said about Umar bin al-Khattab before he converted to Islam.

Umar used to be one of Islam's worst enemies and people would say his donkey would convert to Islam before he did, but he ended up converting anyways and ended up becoming one the greatest and most pious Muslim rulers in history.

I love Umar's conversion story too.