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c4faac No.1599

So, I was having a conversation with a Jew on /pol/. I am not an edgy stormfag, and pretty reasonable. His last reply to me was:

c4faac No.1600

>>1599

It's the Zionists which supply the "Jews are superior" meme.

Atheist mercantile Jews supply the multiculturalism, but only because they are afraid of getting gassed for being a market dominant minority. When things go wrong, they always get blamed even when they make up only a portion of bankers. Everybody would rather blame another race.

The Jewish problem is really a cultural problem, not a genetic one. The Jews have good genes, at least for modern pursuits (shit for being warriors).

If you could convince left wing and libertarian Jews that by trying to cover for themselves they just end up wrecking their own prospects, then you could solve a big part of the Jewish problem. Those Jews already tend to not like the Zionists, and would gladly throw their AIPAC conservative counterparts under the bus.

What you need to do is redpill the Jews. Jews are scared of real data on genetics, because they think it will be used against them, but the real data says that Jews, whites, and asians have good qualities. It is blacks and third worlders that are the problem.

The one key to all this is getting the Jews to stop sticking up for blacks and Muslims. They fear the racial slippery slope to Nazism, but they should know that blacks are genuine wreckers of civilization, whereas Jews are intelligent enough to provide good services if they stop trying to fight the very societies they rely on out of fear.

Red pill the Jews and you win. Try to kill the Jews and you just reinforce an irrational position on race.


c4faac No.1601

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>>1600

Unfortunately, the thread was deleted.

My reply, which I couldn't post in a deleted thread:

So "mercantile" Jews are importing foreigners to avoid being blamed if anything goes wrong? This logic is pretty stupid, to be honest. People are getting really sick of the endless tolerance the media shows for criminal immigrants, and many people have started to notice how Jews seems to push this, and (rightly it seems) think they are lobbying for it. Now you just created a problem, and will probably be blamed for it in one way or the other if the tides turn.

Alternatively you could just help the society you are in to prosper, and the endogeneous population would like jews and feel they were part of the society. Many diaspora jews with little connection to judaism does exactly this, and becomes an integrated part of society, and supports the goys when they criticise the neocon-zionist-Jews for fucking up countries for reasons unknown. The result will probably be that the mercantile (good) kind of Jews will be blamed for importing immigrants to countries, even if they dindu nuffin if/when shit hit the fan. A much better tactic would be to be outspoken against the zionist Jews and join the goys in creating a better society, instead of importing someone to blame….

I agree that the Jew could prosper if he let go of the Jewish culture and integrated in society. Many Jews have done that, and don't look back. The strategy you are telling me about baffles me to be honest, it's really shit (but you say they are shit warriors, so it may be something there)

As for your proposed solution, I agree with you, that would be a much better solution than importing people to take the potential fall (and at the same time multiplying the chance of things going to shit), however, the most convincing voices comes from within, and it's not even acceptable for a goy to tell Jews what you propose. Both the leftist (I don't use the word "liberal", as I am actually that myself, as in Locke/Mill, and the leftists are NOT "liberal" in that sense) and the Jews would attack a goy who went public with this…

So, aren't you in a better position to redpill the Jew? I would be happy to give it a try, but I really don't know how to reach them, and they would probably dismiss the notion that "they" (Jews) are doing what you say they are doing (and I agree) and call me an anti-semite for that…

>The one key to all this is getting the Jews to stop sticking up for blacks and Muslims. They fear the racial slippery slope to Nazism, but they should know that blacks are genuine wreckers of civilization, whereas Jews are intelligent enough to provide good services if they stop trying to fight the very societies they rely on out of fear.

Again, I am baffled that the Jews have not thought of this themselves. "How about we don't fuck up white societies and try to integrate". The chosen strategy is pretty shit. You are right that Jews, in theory, should be intelligent enough to live among us in peace. They need to distance themselves from the Zionists totally though. Can you do that? Another thing that should calm them down, is that they actually have Israel now, as a last resort if things go to hell. And they better turn around with their white genocide pretty soon if there is going to be any way of getting forgiven.

>Red pill the Jews and you win. Try to kill the Jews and you just reinforce an irrational position on race.

Sounds fair enough, but where start? Make a board for Jews and mass-redpill them there? They need to do their part and bring it forward…

They can get a nudge in the right direction, but you have to swallow the pill yourselves…

How did you end up here?


c4faac No.1602

So, what do you think?

I guess this board is almost dead, but I'll give it a try..


09862e No.1603

Let me hijack the thread for a bit.

What do you folks mean when you say zionist?

That is, 'a zionist is a…'.


7750d8 No.1607

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>>1603

There's the textbook definition of a Zionist: A Jew who believes that Israel should be a country for Jews.

Nothing wrong with that.

But then there's the reality of a Zionist: someone who believes all non-Jewish nations must be ruled by Jews and serve Israel as vassal states, and let the policies of their central banks, universities, schools, media, courts of law, and culture be managed and driven by Jews.

Not your fault per se, our own leaders sold us out long ago and the masses are easily duped.

It just sucks being one of the few who are aware, awake and trapped. I have to wonder if my present situation isn't unlike that of Jews 2500+ years ago who were taken captive by Babylon.

At least Jews have finally managed to send Christianity down the path of total dissolution, but it's a shame they've replaced it with something as bad, if not worse (secular progressivism, new age mysticism, bahá'í, etc.).

I wouldn't have a problem with Jews (mostly the left-wing Jews) leading the world if they weren't so destructive and had it out to genocide me and my kind.

I mean, the elite have an opportunity to turn things around and lead humanity to the stars where there would be enough room (in space and time) where those who are capable can prosper in their own unique ways without bumping into each other that often.

Instead, it seems they're bent on breeding a low-IQ, mulatto slave race over which they can rule, and to do what, exactly? Feed their egos? Delude themselves into believing they are like demi-gods, while staying put on this gravity-well until the Sun goes red-giant.

It's a waste, if you ask me.

Maybe it's all been engineered this way to ultimately kill leftist, liberal thinking? To create the perfect, left-progressive social cataclysm, to convince humanity of their moral depravity, so that the survivors turn away from it and never look back. At this point, I can only hope this is the case.


c4faac No.1610

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>>1603

This anon sums it up pretty good. I don't mind the "textbook" zionist, but the ones who are pushing wars and all kinds of bad things in the rest of the world.

So, a question for you… Are you aware of any "bad things" involving a lot of Jews? As an example, I can use the recent coup in Ukraine, where Jews are heavily involved, and they fuck up Ukraine.

Nudelman (Nuland), Kolomoisky (the funder of Azov and the other nazi groups, most of the new government, George Soros (off course)… Jews everywhere! Just check out the people involved on the highest levels there!

The Russian revolution in 1918 was pretty much a Jewish revolution (you would normally probably call this an anti-semitic lie, but we are anons here, and that won't bite here unless you make a good case) 6/7 of Russias oligarchs are Jewish, and they have a lot of influence. The same can be said for Ukraine, by the way, the filthy rich are jews, but being rich alone is not "bad", the bad thing is that they use their wealth to corrupt the nation (and increase their wealth). Nearly everyone in Ukraines government has dual citizenship and could very well just move to Israel.

So, these are just a couple of examples of the top of my head.

The question is; was the other Jew right? Would "redpilling" the "normal" Jews on this change anything? Would they listen?

A big problem here is off course to reach out to them. If this info came from other "redpilled" Jews, it wouldn't be brushed of as anti-semitism, so the only way to effectively do this would be to make some politically interested Jews to do spread the word, and we could "cooperate" in finding the truth about different subjects, but it would require intellectual honesty from all parts.

What do you think, Jews? Would you go against your extremists for the sake of humanity? Would you spread the word to your ignorant fellow Jews about the crimes of the few, who makes so many worry about all of you (which is totally wrong, but understandable)?

From time to time, there are a few "self-hating" Jews on /pol/ who see this shit and how destructive it is for both sides, and understandably, they don't tell their friends and families of this. If a lot of you started with the small things, it could work though.

What do you think?

Pic related, it's one of the Jew-things that annoys me. I hope you can see why…


7750d8 No.1613

>>1607

>I wouldn't have a problem with Jews (mostly the left-wing Jews)

To clarify this, I tend to side with right-wing Jews more. Left-wing Jews are far more destructive and whom I tend to have a problem with.


c4faac No.1614

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>1613

I don't know how to categorize Jews, because to me it seems like they use leftists to promote racial violence. It's the old case of "I don't know who is Jewing who anymore".

The new hastag on twitter #WhiteWounding is a good example. Is this a deluded leftist Jew who thinks this may somehow be good, or is it a Jewish supremacist, posing as a liberal moron (in fact, I am "liberal" myself, but not the destructive kind).

Video related is a reaction to "white wounding", but we have Barbara "endwhitepeople" Spectre as another example, where it is hard to know for sure if she is an anti-racist leftist, or a Jewish supremacist longing for the destruction of all whites. I am leaning towards the latter…

Why is this board so dead? I wish there was a place where we could talk about things like this.


3572a2 No.1626

>Why is this board so dead? I wish there was a place where we could talk about things like this.

This board is more about Israel and Israelis/jews abroad/goyim asking questions discussing it than it is about how shlomo shekelberg is detroying your economy/society/education/government/whatever.

It sounds like /pol/ would be right up your ally, though.

Why not there?


c4faac No.1631

>>1626

You really think my concerns would be answered there? Pol is just a hugbox for Jew-haters. I am seeing where it comes from, but I think it's just a very few Jews. I don't need to hear how all jews needs to be gassed, I want to a solution without violence…

Oh well…




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