Anonymous 11/18/14 (Tue) 03:32:15 No. 1161
Hey Japan. Maybe you can answer this question I have:
Anonymous 11/18/14 (Tue) 18:30:41 No. 1169
仕方がないの
Anonymous 11/18/14 (Tue) 18:44:22 No. 1170
Maybe ask every other nation that doesn't use English, too? (Like, most of them?) Also why don't you switch to Chinese? English is obsolete compared to Chinese.
Anonymous 11/19/14 (Wed) 00:57:54 No. 1174
>>1170 Not really obsolete. I mean, don't you have to get shit written by special people when you want to write letters and stuff? Sounds complicated as fuck. Rather speak a language everyone can understand and speak well than some complex language where I can't even write my own shit
Anonymous 11/19/14 (Wed) 21:08:37 No. 1194
>>1161 If there's ever a world-language I'd prefer it to be a "constructed language". But I guess wouldn't mind it to be english either since it's my native language.
Anonymous 11/20/14 (Thu) 17:26:04 No. 1200
Are you kidding me?>Thousands of grammar exceptions >Spelling makes no sense >Prepositions what do?
Anonymous 11/21/14 (Fri) 05:28:37 No. 1203
>>1200 >disrespecting tradition Hello American. I see you enjoy life in Japan. Good.
Anonymous 11/24/14 (Mon) 04:38:41 No. 1224
>>1174 > Rather speak a language everyone can understand and speak well than some complex language where I can't even write my own shit What a bullshit argument. How do you measure complexity of a language? Just counting different characters? Ok then let's learn Korean everyone! Or we could just write Chinese characters encoded in UTF-8 as binary. Hooray, only 2 characters!
Anonymous 11/29/14 (Sat) 00:50:20 No. 1242
>>1200 And yet it is simple enough that you can understand a sentenced as nuanced as:
"Suck my dick, Chinaman."
No homo.
Anonymous 11/29/14 (Sat) 06:27:59 No. 1244
>>1170 The problem with Chinese (and Japanese) is kanji.
It's cool to be able to place meanings in individual symbols (and makes it easier to decipher word compounds and phrases when you know what they mean), but it's impossible to decipher the meanings and readings for most of them by sight alone without added pinyin/furigana.
>>1200 I wish we didn't have all these spelling exceptions too, Anon. Unfortunately, it's a byproduct from the printing press first being used in Europe while we were still speaking Middle English (most word spellings make sense for how it was pronounced back then).
But calling English obsolete implies that it can't change to assimilate new words and phrases to add needed nuances and meanings. The irregularity of English grammar allows it to easily absorb new words, nuances, and grammatical principles without much difficulty.
>>1224 If we HAD to switch to an east asian language, I'd go with Korean. Hangul a best.
Anonymous 11/29/14 (Sat) 13:40:23 No. 1247
>>1244 Hello beginner. I see you enjoy life learning Japanese. Good.
Anonymous 01/24/15 (Sat) 15:17:03 No. 1693
English is a clusterfuck. It was just lucky to be universal. It's a pompous language.
Anonymous 01/25/15 (Sun) 04:29:37 No. 1700
QWERTY配列がキーボードの標準になっているように一度広まると効率的かどうかに拘らずそのままになるのと同じではないですか？(下に書いた英語は機械翻訳に手を加えた程度なのでお許しを)
Anonymous 01/28/15 (Wed) 16:57:19 No. 1715
Anonymous 02/10/15 (Tue) 13:00:07 No. 1756
>>1244 >it's impossible to decipher the meanings and readings for most of them by sight alone without added pinyin/furigana I dunno, a lot have at least some sort of logic to them. If you know the basics you can usually make an educated guess. I'd hate for them to drop kanji, kana-only is awful.
Anonymous 02/11/15 (Wed) 00:43:47 No. 1757
>>1756 Spot on. To this I'd add:
>o >g What about that collection of individual letters suggests "furry quadruped that barks and humps your leg"?
Fucking well nothing.
Anonymous 02/11/15 (Wed) 05:11:14 No. 1759
Anonymous 02/11/15 (Wed) 13:47:55 No. 1771
>>1759 This. Have you ever tried reading yotsubato? Most thig are really easy but what yotsuba says is fucking impossible to understand without context because it's just kana.
Anonymous 02/12/15 (Thu) 03:56:20 No. 1775
>>1757 It works because you can sound out the word and associate it with the thing it sounds like.
"D-o-g. duh-aw-guh. Dawg. Dog!!!" English has retarded pronunciation rules (though there IS a method to the madness), but if you know what a dog is and what it's called, you should be able to put 2 and 2 together.
Whereas with 犬, if you have no idea what the kanji means and have no furigana, there's no way for you to know it's pronounced "いぬ" and nothing that says it means "dog".
>>1759 I agree on this point. Pure kana a worst.
The only way I could see a kana + kanji -> romaji conversion even POSSIBLY work would be if there were alternate spellings for homonyms (like bear/bare, pear/pair, etc…)
Anonymous 02/12/15 (Thu) 13:05:36 No. 1781
>>1757 To add onto >>1775: asking what each individual letter in a word means is like asking what each of the radicals in a kanji means. What about the "big" and "drop" radicals suggests the kanji means "dog"?
Anonymous 02/14/15 (Sat) 17:59:38 No. 1784
>>1161 Why use outdated english that is spelled differently than it's spoken? Go phonetic languages
Anonymous 02/18/15 (Wed) 06:48:28 No. 1791
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>>1759 I've asked people in Japan how they would feel about stopping the use of kanji considering they complain about it all the time.
They just would like to not have to write it ever again but they like the amount of meaning that can condensed or quickly identified by giving something a quick glance.
Pic unrelated
Anonymous 02/21/15 (Sat) 10:19:29 No. 1799
>>1775 >English has retarded pronunciation rules No it doesn't. It has perfectly consistent rules for pronunciation. What it doesn't have is a standardised phonetic spelling system. It doesn't need one.
Anonymous 02/21/15 (Sat) 10:20:02 No. 1800
>>1771 But there is always context.
Anonymous 02/22/15 (Sun) 00:02:17 No. 1807
>>1800 Yes, but it's not as hard as mangas with hard/unknown kanji
in my opinion
Anonymous 02/23/15 (Mon) 10:31:06 No. 1811
>>1807 I agree, but then that's what kanji-input electronic dictionaries are for.
t. lazy student of kanji who has read all of yotubato no problems
Anonymous 03/03/15 (Tue) 13:47:42 No. 1849
I kinda wished they do that because i fucking hate there language it's fucking retarded i tried learinng but i can't it's mostly my fault because i am lazy piece of shit and stupid
Anonymous 03/04/15 (Wed) 16:36:11 No. 1850
>>1849 It's
By the way, I'm lazy and retarded and I'm
kind of learning it. You just need to get
gud _ _ _ _
Anonymous 03/04/15 (Wed) 16:40:23 No. 1851
>>1849 >>1850 It's better if they keep japanese instead of english in my opinion. Sure they would eventually speak well in english, but that would take a long ass time, it would be reery baddo in za begginingu.
And just to show you how retarded I am I accidentally clicked reply before I wrote everything.
Anonymous 03/31/15 (Tue) 21:59:59 No. 1948
Japanese being hard as fuck is what has kept Japan pure and homogenous.
Anonymous 03/31/15 (Tue) 22:19:38 No. 1949
>>1948 >japanese >hard Not really, it's just intimidating as fuck because you "need" to learn a few thousand kanji but it's actually really simple. Countries with languages that are actually hard
IMO , like most of the countries in South America and a few European ones, are a clusterfuck of different cultures and immigrants.
Anonymous 04/08/15 (Wed) 21:28:14 No. 2028
Why doesn't the whole world just use esperanto?
Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 09:30:07 No. 2052
>>2028 Because it's fucking stupid and evil, and you're a fucking stupid and evil person for even suggesting such a thing.
Anonymous 04/10/15 (Fri) 17:00:57 No. 2057
>>2028 Because Esperanto is really just a mix of several European languages, so the Asians won't like it.
inb4 the chinks don't matter
Anonymous 05/03/15 (Sun) 13:36:18 No. 2190
>>1161
>English
>good
Only relatively good thing about English is big technical vocabulary. At least it doesn't have letters with arbitrary genders (fucking french).
Good language needs to have:
- simple and clear pronunciation rules
- no extreme amount of symbols like kanji
- very consistent and well structured grammar
- context sensitive (efficiency) and verbose (formality and technical) modes with seamless switching between them
- (optionally) a standardized way to construct words out of already existing ones
…
tl;dr: We need new constructed language.
>>1784
>mongols like fins and turks use latin alphabet better (phonetically) than eurofags themselves
It's a strange world. Inglish fonetiks ar faking ritarded.
Anonymous 05/04/15 (Mon) 06:44:12 No. 2191
>>2190
Did someone mention Finnish?
Anonymous 05/08/15 (Fri) 01:47:52 No. 2200
>>2191
>tfw want to learn finnish after I git gud at japanese
>don't have any real reason other than being able to speak the language if I ever try and manage to move there and it sounding cool as fuck
I see it's going to be a fun ride if I ever get to it.
Anonymous 05/08/15 (Fri) 08:14:49 No. 2202
>>2200
>if I ever try and manage to move there
>I see it's going to be a fun ride if I ever get to it.
Are you a masocist? You will fit right in!
Anonymous 05/08/15 (Fri) 20:02:02 No. 2210
>>2202
>Are you a masochist
>I want to learn like four languages and only one uses the latin alphabet
You tell me :^)