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 No.1245

Do boys ever get groped on trains in Japan like girls do?

 No.1246

>>1245
I'm not sure as to that since I rare take trains to head for somewhere else.
I was wondered if it would depend on the region.

 No.1249

In anime, yes.

 No.1250

is groping common in trains irl? If so do people stop it or is it socially ok.

 No.1252

>>1249

I have never seen a dude groped on a train in an anime.

>>1250

Not a nip, but it's common enough that the have women-only trains.

It's not socially, but no one really steps in to stop it if they see it.

 No.1254

>>1252
>It's not socially, but no one really steps in to stop it if they see it

That happens everywhere though, and is actually a named phenomenon: bystander syndrome.

 No.1255

>>1252
You need to watch more anime.
It's the main theme in one. He gets groped and it ruins his confidence to continue groping women.

 No.1258

>>1254

But there it's on steroids.

In other places, it tends to happen when there's a large crowd watching, but even then more often then now, someone steps in.

But there? nah.

 No.1279

>>1255

What anime is that?

 No.1309

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>>1279
Chikan Densha.

 No.1334

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>>1309
noice

 No.1375

>>1255

good dubs

 No.1864

>>1250

It's common, but no one steps in to stop it.

 No.2483

>>1864

As a foreigner, if I saw it and attempted to interrupt it, would that be a social faux pas? Could it lead to bad things for me or for others?


 No.2489

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>>2483

no, you would be the hero. (don't forget to say daijoubu desuka afterwards to her, this is a good opener for a flirt ;) )

The side effect to the other's who watching it is that there are ashamed of themselfes for not interupting earlier but else, it is not like in india where you can disrupt a rape but afterwards beeing accused of a crime for not letting them do "justice". (for real in India rape is a punishment given from law court)


 No.2492

>>1250

It's not all that common but it certainly does happen. It's not socially acceptable but a lot of the time people aren't even aware of it, and if they are, they pretend not to be.

>>1254

>>1258

The bystander effect is that people won't do the right thing in a crowd because they expect somebody else from the crowd to do it.

One way to think of it is in terms of costs. There is a cost to not intervening (the bad thing keeps happening) and to intervening (you are put at risk). When we think that the cost of not intervening is greater than the cost of intervening, we intervene. However, when there are more people, we assume that they might intervene. Then the cost of not intervening is decreased; whereas when alone, it's ~100% that the bad thing will keep happening, if we assume that other bystanders will have a 50% chance (for example) of intervening, then we calculate the chance that the bad thing will keep happening to be halved for each bystander. The more bystanders there are, the more we think that somebody else will do it, and so the lower we think the cost of not intervening becomes. Obviously the problem with this process is that bystanders probably don't have a 50% chance of intervening (or whatever chance we assume), and that chance only drops the more there are (because of this very effect affecting the thoughts of other bystanders). So the chance that the bad thing will keep happening actually drops far less than we think it does, and then our comparison of the costs of intervening versus not intervening will be wrong.

All that side, I don't think that the bystander effect is relevant, however, because the typical Japanese take on the matter is that stepping in simply isn't the right thing to do in the first place.

>>2483

The Japanese attitude is mostly that turning an issue in to more people's issue is making the issue worse.

One way to think about it is that while it's already a problem for the victim and maybe for bystanders, interfering makes it more likely to be a bigger problem for more bystanders, and in addition to that, a bigger problem for the victim because now not only have they been molested, but also, in receiving help, they've disturbed bystanders because a scene has been made; it doesn't matter that it's not their fault or that it's not them making the scene, just that they are benefiting from the scene being made.

For this reason, it's generally seen as better not to interfere. Of course there's no hard and fast rule, but if you want a basic guideline: don't intervene. Also, I've heard that Osakans are less likely to mind their own business (which may be good and bad).

>>2489

This post is wrong.


 No.2493

>>2492

go back to china austroll /china/


 No.2497

>>2493

>支那

気持ち悪いな


 No.2503

>>2497

What you discribed was chinese mentality, where people don't care if for recent instance a kid gets killed by a car and others driving over it and people just ignore. But gladly Japan is different! Prove me wrong with sources. Protip: You cant


 No.2504

>>2503

There are two reasons the Chinese won't intervene to help others:

1) They don't value human life or dignity.

2) They're terrified of their government and what it might do to them if they happen to be on the wrong side of the law as a result of intervening.

The Japanese attitude that I described is one born of social concern. It's just that the way in which that concern is expressed is different to what some people in the West might consider suitable.




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