/japan/ - 日本

>>1954

I wish you'd put the words in a different way. That looks like personal attack against her, which isn't the main subject.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/mediterranean-migrants-angela-merkel-tells-eu-countries-take-more-refugees-1498356

> Angela Merkel has said that large European countries should be prepared to accept more refugees.

>UK Prime Minister David Cameron said Britain will not take any of the refugees

Quite a caos in Europe right now

>>2161

I really doubt that there are at the moment any more boat refugees coming from Africa than usual, might be just media hype and politicians reacting to it. The best way to stop those refugees from drowning would be by sending them back and taking none of them in. If there was no chance of getting in, none of them would risk their lives crossing the sea. Let us hope that Merkel's proposed overreaction amounts to nothing. It is ironic that her actions might cause increase in the death of the Africans crossing the sea as more people might try to come in. Why can't these idiot politicians look at the long term effects?

>>2162

Let the illegal immigrants drown.

>>2162

That's more or less what Australian PM Abbott suggests, isn't it?

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/571873/Europe-should-toughen-border-controls-end-Mediterranean-migrant-tragedy-Tony-Abbott-urges

Australian PM Abbott says

>The only way you can stop the deaths is to stop the boats

>European countries should adopt very strong policies

Question is though, can they do it?

http://thediplomat.com/2015/04/fighting-people-smugglers-lessons-from-australia-for-europe/

Oh by the way according to this article Finns say no to work-based immigrants.

http://yle.fi/uutiset/yle_poll_majority_of_finns_oppose_work-based_immigration/7946732

If the government take work-based immigrants in while Finns are unemployed and looking for work, that can cause problems and not fair for Finns I suppose.

Anyone noticed wikileaks linked 8ch.net?

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/592490045593948161

*You need PC to open this as it contains 350pages.

https://media.8ch.net/pdfs/src/1418471749543-0.pdf

>>2162

Remember we talked about how mass media is used to control people?

In pdf file above;

13. The Mass Media as Agents of Conformity

This should be interesting to read.

>>2164

I have heard that Tony Abbott is bit of a cunt, but this time he is right.

>Question is though, can they do it?

I think they could, but I fear that they lack the will to stop it. The leftists in Europe would cry racism if they did it.

>Oh by the way according to this article Finns say no to work-based immigrants.

I guess there is a point there. Finland has around 10% unemployment, around where I live it's almost 15% and some places it's even 20%. Foreigners opening new restaurants doesn't really help either, since they just provide an alternative for existing restaurants. Skilled workers are always welcome though, but they are a minority.

Here is a documentary that might be interesting. It is not really related to immigration or such, but it does illustrate how the rich used the economic crisis in EU to lower the wages of poor people and make huge cuts while saying that it would help the economy. In truth it didn't help at all. The rich will say anything to get what they want and that's why they are rich to begin with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwuD0MqU3qk

>>2166

That looks interesting, maybe I will read it some time. It is kinda funny that wikileaks would twit something like that just as we are talking about it.

>>2168

Unemployment rate of yours seems as bad as the US. Skilled workers are welcomed everywhere, including Japan, while they tend to stay in their home countries.

I watched the video you posted. I set the video with English sub, somehow it didn't work that way(maybe I didn't set it right, I don't know).

Correct me if I'm wrong, my understanding is that financial disaster of Greece was not their fault, they were ripped off.

Then I watched BBC news, since they have election coming up, that's their main topic at the moment. In the programme they showed a commissioner of EU visiting England, he said he wished UK remains as the member of EU.

Seems to me EU has lots of problems, doesn't look like functioning properly.

>>2170

>my understanding is that financial disaster of Greece was not their fault, they were ripped off.

Well, Greece did take too many loans but the banks kept giving them. The banks made as many problems as the Greeks did, probably even more since they probably knew what they were doing, and once EU countries started pouring in support money, that money went to the German and French banks who gave the loans, not the Greeks. It seems that the banks don't have to answer for their actions, while EU member countries and the poor people in Greece have to pay for all the mistakes. Of course, rich people in Greece weren't as effected by the crisis as they can still afford things and some were even benefiting from it, such as buying property cheap while they can. Also, later in the documentary, in some other country, they point out that the state fired cleaners as a "measure to save money" but they hired new cleaners from private sector. So basically it leaves me thinking that the whole crisis was used as an opportunity to move wealth from taxpayers to bankers, lower the wages, cut on public social support and privatize public property and jobs, all which benefit the rich.

So basically the Greeks did screw up taking more loans than they could handle, but the way EU tried to "help" was ripping everyone off, especially the Greeks and nothing they did actually helped the crisis countries.

>Seems to me EU has lots of problems, doesn't look like functioning properly.

Yeah, I think joining EU was a mistake. I don't remember when was the last time I heard something good about EU, mostly it is just about useless bureaucracy and everyone screwing everyone over all the time.

>>2172

Thanks for the explanation. I get the whole picture now. It was a little difficult to understand without English sub(I don't know what the hell I've done with it)

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/28/finland-fires-warning-charges-at-suspect-object-in-underwater-territory

Can I ask what's the reaction of Finns regarding this?

>>2173

I watched the documentary from a different source. I'll give you a link since it's mostly in English, but I am not sure if you can watch it because it's from Finnish TV broadcaster's web page.

http://areena.yle.fi/1-2699201

As for the submarine, I don't really even care. Russians fly their airplanes in Finnish airspace all the time, so a submarine doesn't matter that much, even if it really was there. However, what is really interesting is the media's reaction to it and how they say the Russians are laughing at the Finns investigating the possible sub detection. Also, there have been unreasonably many news articles of a letter that Finnish Defence Forces are going to send to about 900000 reservists. They are sending the letters because of a recent reform and it has nothing to do with the Ukraine crisis or Russian submarine adventures. Makes me wonder if they make those news because they sell or because they want to put people into certain frame of mind regarding the Russia as a threat.

Here is another problem that Sweden is facing. They don't have enough housing for the in coming immigrants, so they have to build more. About as much more as their capital holds right now. And all of this will be paid with tax payer money.

>>2174

I couldn't watch the documentary you posted.

They don't allow foreiners to watch it.

>>2175

It's almost disgusting what's going on in Sweden, especially in Stockholm. In near future we'll be seeing ugly apartment buildings, as beautiful historical buildings will be gone. Building apartments for immigrants is cleary their priority, while young Swedish adults trying to be independent cannot find a place of their own is so sad. They are future tax payers too.

>Sweden belongs to the immiggrants, not to the native Swedish people

Holly shit what kind of crap is this?

Obviously Sweden's extreme immigration policy went far too extreme. The economist is right, Sweden is going to collapse. The most intersting remark he made in there is, "political elites who support immigration policy do not live in the same area where immigrants live" just goes to show how hypocritical they are.

UN statement

>European countries,The US, Russia, Japan need to have their population replaced

Oh no, Japan is not a humanitarian country. Call us racist or whatever, I don't care.

>>2176

Exactly. You don't want to buy what they are selling. Sweden might be an extreme example, but others are following them even if it's slower process.

>>2179

I've noticed there was a topic on /n/ board regarding Sweden, that building apartments for immigrants is causing housing shortage for Swedish.

I wasn't surprised at the responses to it, e.g. "great,let them take all muslims".

People don't care what's happening outside of their own countries. To be specific people only care when the issue affect them, Japanese included.

I told you before Japan hardly accept refugees.　 However, there is a possibility that Japan might forced to take refugees from North Korea. 　At the moment North/South Korea seem rather quiet, but who knows what's going to happen next.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/05/02/national/politics-diplomacy/mccain-sdf-expect-see-action-korea-deploy-mideast-south-china-sea/

>John McCain

>The senior politician, who has a heavy influence on defense and foreign policy, also said in an interview that the Self-Defense Forces might take part in combat in the event of a contingency on the Korean Peninsula.

Don't drag JSDF into this, or any other war the US is involved. 　I know McCain belongs to Rebulican Party,　yet I think this is a good example why the US and PM Abe so determined to change the Japanese Constitution. Our Constitution does not forbid Japan to defend itself. 　It simply forbid us to invade another country. Damn it, we don't need collective self defense.

>>2188

>To be specific people only care when the issue affect them

Indeed, and a large portion of the people who care about others pretty much only care about the immigrants, not about the people the immigrants hurt.

>However, there is a possibility that Japan might forced to take refugees from North Korea.

I guess North Koreans escaping the country is an issue in South Korea, but I thought there weren't that many of them. If there is only a few of them, the best place for them would be in South Korea. They are the same people, after all. Only way I would imagine there would be a large number of refugees is if the North Korea for some reason collapsed.

>At the moment North/South Korea seem rather quiet, but who knows what's going to happen next.

I wouldn't worry about North Korea too much. I don't think a war is very likely. South Koreans and US wouldn't gain much from it and now that there is a chance of a nuclear retaliation, the damage a war might cause is too high. As for North Koreans attacking, I don't think they could wage a very effective war without either China or Russia backing them. Their main problem is that they don't have that much fuel to go around, so even if they have a lot of tanks, ships and airplanes, they can not really use them, let alone train with them. Also, a lot of their stuff is horribly outdated. The nuke they have been working on is pretty much the only way they can make sure that outsiders don't come in and take over the country. The nuke is basically there so that they could use it if they were going to be under attack, but using it offensively would only cause them problems.

>Don't drag JSDF into this, or any other war the US is involved.

I agree. In case of a global war, Japan might have some use for foreign allies, but in that case forming such alliance I think would probably be possible even during the conflict. But for a local crisis, such as North Korea vs. South Korea, I don't think Japan should get involved. North Koreans haven't really liked Japan since WW2, and I don't think Japan should make itself a target for possible North Korean nukes by allying against them. I would say that Japan's main problem is China, because of the whole deal with the islands and the waters surrounding them. I think Japan could develop a very effective navy to defend those areas even against the Chinese, but I think there is still some work to do. Japan is going to have to bolster it's military if they want to keep an independent defence, but I think it's very much possible.

>>2189

Japan has been assisting China in the form of technical cooperatin to infrastructure development, grants, and ODA since 1979. Total amount of grants/ODA to China is bigger than our national budget, and ongoing assistance even today. It seems odd as China's GDP is ranked 2nd in the world, whereas Japan's GDP comes 3rd.

If China is really a threat to Japan, that makes us idiots, doesn't it?

The only reason I can think of why Japan keep helping China is because of our close business relationship. When China opened it's market, major Japanese manufacturing industries couldn't wait to build factories there. It's rather hard to find "made in Japan" product these days, even for us.

That means China is making huge profit through business with Japan.

So what's China going to gain by attacking Japan?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/27/us-usa-japan-defense-idUSKBN0NI08O20150427

>The resolution allows the exercise of the right to "collective self-defense." This means, for example, that Japan could shoot down missiles heading toward the United States and come to the aid of third countries under attack.

Our PM seemed quite satisfied and pleased with dinner in Washington, in return what do we have to pay? Here comes the first one.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/05/07/national/politics-diplomacy/u-s-sell-17-ospreys-gsdf-nhk-reports/

At the joint press conference, President Obama said "TPP is good for American workers!" Of course it is. The US and Japan call each other allies, but US - Japan relationship was never on an equal basis, it never will be.

Some time this year Chinese leader Xi Jinping will visit Washington, let's see what President Obama has to say.

I hope you don't get the wrong idea, I'm not against US. I just want Japan to be truly independent country.

>>2197

>So what's China going to gain by attacking Japan?

You are probably right, I am not really well versed with the history of China's and Japan's relations. Trade and economic interdependence that it causes makes nations unlikely to fight eachother. Why would people want to invade a nation for resources while they can get them via trade? I guess the western media might have blown the whole Senkaku Islands thing out of proportion. The first link you pasted reflects that perfectly.

>Japan could shoot down missiles heading toward the United States

>Washington has made clear it does not want to get dragged into a Sino-Japanese conflict.

I would guess that Japanese people wouldn't really be thrilled to be dragged into a conflict between North Korean and US either, especially if nuclear weapons are involved. Seems like a bad deal, especially if Chinese and Japanese conflict would be a very unlikely scenario. What does the Japanese media have to say on the subject?

>Our PM seemed quite satisfied and pleased with dinner in Washington, in return what do we have to pay?

3 billion seems quite a high price for 17 Ospreys. They are complex machines and because of that are very expensive, but it still seems like too much, especially in the current economy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-17#Recent_orders

Just for comparison, Russia has been selling helicopters to India, and one batch of 80 cost them only $1.375 billion. Mi-17 isn't exactly an equal aircraft, but even then if they are being sold for around 17 million dollars a piece, the 176 million pricetag on the Osprey seems quite excessive.

>US - Japan relationship was never on an equal basis

It does kinda seem like that LDP might be a bit too closely affiliated with the US. Almost reminds me of some Finnish politicians and their relation to EU.

>>2198

>What does the Japanese media have to say on the subject?

Japanese media are useless. They always go along with the US's story, that President Obama spoke publicly that US will defend Senkaku Islands for Japan. US-Japan partnership as allies is must.

>3 billion seems quite a high price for 17 Ospreys

Yeah I thought so too. Jap.media, none of them say "expensive" here.

LDP party can never say no to the US. Because practically US(CIA)founded LDP party. Do you know PM Abe's grandfather, Nobusuke Kishi was CIA agent?

It goes all the way back to the era Japan lost WW2.

Kishi, at that time was imprisoned as war criminal.

Later on he becomes PM of Japan. How was that possible?

Here's CIA file of Kishi(used to be confidencial, but they open it after 50yrs or so)

http://www.foia.cia.gov/sites/default/files/document_conversions/1705143/KISHI,%20NOBUSUKE_0003.pdf

(other sources)

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/10/09/world/cia-spent-millions-to-support-japanese-right-in-50-s-and-60-s.html

http://www.jpri.org/publications/workingpapers/wp11.html

http://www.japansubculture.com/how-the-cia-helped-put-the-yakuza-and-the-ldp-in-power/

>>2201

>LDP party can never say no to the US. Because practically US(CIA)founded LDP party.

Damn. It really does look like LDP is a US puppet. How are the other parties? Are they any better? Could any of them ever take over? I know that Japanese voters are quite passive, but if they did get more active and question LDP and the mainstream media, which party would be most likely to be succesful?

>>2204

There are no parties that look to have any real chance at taking and maintaining government by merit of being better than the LDP. Even when the LDP has lost elections, they have been back soon afterwards. There have been six non-LDP prime ministers since the party's first prime ministership, but of these six, two were protest splinter groups from the LDP, one was in a coalition with the LDP, and the other three were the recent DPJ prime ministers about whom I imagine you know.

>>2201

Better a CIA puppet than a filthy communist.

>>2205 >>2206

Are you fucking kidding me?

>Better a CIA puppet

What kind of patriot is that?

Stop hiding behind proxy and come out like a real man. I know you can write Japanese.

>>2207

>UK elections

Yeah the media say "unexpected result". The voting system here is questionable too, even the court said "illegal voting condition" but the politicians don't give a damn about it.

Regarding UK elections result, I've seen people protesting against the result, they're not pleased with the Conservative Party winning.

SNP seems very pleased, Alex Salmond said "It's a big step towards Scotland's independence". Is it really?

Scots had voting before, whether they want to be independent or not, and they chose to be part of UK. Back then I was watching BBC, being curious which way the Scots would go, I remember Salmond was dissapointed with the result.

>>2216

>Japan needs more political activism to break the people out of the hypnosis.

I've tried to shake them up but no one would listen. I don't know what else I can do.

Abe said in front of the public "Anyone who oppose our policies are stupid leftist" and guess what, people actually bought it.

>What could have Mr.Nagamoto been doing there?

That was a big question. The photo came from a weekly magazine saying "Abe's black connection" which would have been a big scandal. Strange to say it dissapeared.

I don't know where guns come from, we read story like "police arrested yakuza for possession of guns" but they never mention where those guns came from.

>2ch

US ex-military officer is current admin of 2ch, Jim Watkins. I'd say ex-admin Nishimura is much more dangerous because of his connection with LDP politicians. Current admin has done major changes on 2ch without any explanation to 2ch users, and many users have left, especially good old ones.

Now 2ch turned into shitty place, my guess is matome bloggers(affiliate bloggers) have taken over.

I don't think 8ch is in any danger. The only possible problem that 8ch might have in future would be financial one. 8ch is run under the US law, 2ch is under the Japanese law.

This might help you understand a little.

http://8ch.net/meta/res/68213.html#68294

Anyway I'm thinking of leaving 8ch. I would have stayed if Hotwheels was going to keep jp.8ch.net, it's a pity it didn't work out well.

>>2217

>I don't know what else I can do.

There are bound to be more people like you in Japan. You'll just have to find them somehow. Changing peoples minds won't be easy, but you should not give up. Just don't stress yourself too much over it. I think most people don't understand what's happening in politics and because of that are not interested. Perhaps that's what many politicians aim for.

>The photo came from a weekly magazine saying "Abe's black connection" which would have been a big scandal.

Spreading information like that might be a good place to start if you want people to pay attention to what's wrong with the politics.

>they never mention where those guns came from

I either saw it in a documentary about yakuza on youtube or read about it somewhere, but I swear that it said most of the guns were originally from US.

>Anyway I'm thinking of leaving 8ch

That's a shame. I really enjoyed this discussion. I rarely get into discussions about politics that are as civil as this, especially on the internet and I learned much.

>>2218

I haven't completely decided whether I'm going to leave or not yet.

I've learned a lot from you(and other anons)as well, I appreciate you for that.

By the way I googled "Japanese and Jewish" and found this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese-Jewish_common_ancestry_theory

There are many bloggers write about it, I just couldn't even bother reading them.

Then I came across this.

http://www.jccjapan.or.jp/ "Jewish Community of Japan"

I didn't know such community exists in Japan.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-05-12/eu-offers-of-political-asylum-jump-50-fueling-migration-debate

>EU foreign affairs chief Federica Mogherini gave few public details of the military plans Monday after speaking to the Security Council in New York.

>Russia, armed with a Security Council veto, has indicated it won’t allow EU navies to destroy boats used by traffickers.

How's that?

Destroying boats would be the only solution so far, why Russia interferes in this?

>>2225

>I haven't completely decided whether I'm going to leave or not yet.

Good to hear. I would imagine the shitposting that this site contains might put people off, but then again I don't know how frequent such behaviour is on Japanese sites since I don't understand the language. I started working a little after a long unemployment so I am visiting this site more infrequently, but I still check this thread daily just in case there is something interesting here.

>By the way I googled "Japanese and Jewish" and found this.

Yeah, I have heard of this, but I find it kinda silly. There are even youtube videos about a Japanese TV show that was showing those things (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhlkuGwEecY). I really hope no one takes such nonsense seriously. It isn't a first time people have made great claims about supposed shared ancestry. Turanism comes to mind (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turanism) and I have heard that there are still Turks who think that Finns are related to Turkish people based on supposed similarities in our languages.

>Destroying boats would be the only solution so far, why Russia interferes in this?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/06/us-europe-migrants-un-idUSKBN0NR2AO20150506

>European Union leaders agreed last month to "identify, capture and destroy vessels before they are used by traffickers," but it is unclear how that may be achieved

I guess they might be suspicious that they might use pre-emptive scuttling of possible immigrant boats against Russia. Or that Russians have shady operations in the area that use boats that fit the description and they don't want others to find out. Of course it could also be possible that they would desire more immigration to Europe to weaken them, but it might lead to too much unrest and people don't want neighbouring countries to get too restless.

>>2227

I would like to add something.

I noticed the Japan section in the wikipedia's Turanism page and decided to read the sourcematerial provided (http://eprints.lib.hokudai.ac.jp/dspace/bitstream/2115/5026/1/KJ00000112960.pdf) and early on I noticed that as one of the reasons why Finland and Japan had quite friendly relations was that "A linguistical theory on the Ural-Altaics was once put forward, giving the impression that the Finns were even related to the Japanese." and I could not help but think about the Japanese-Jewish common ancestry theory. Maybe something similar might be happening? If you see it more in the media, you can bet that it's deliberate.

http://news.yahoo.com/black-miss-japan-fights-race-revolution-041830696.html

>"I want to start a revolution," Miyamoto added with a laugh.

>"I can't change things overnight but in 100-200 years there will be very few pure Japanese left, so we have to start changing the way we think."

>"I'd like to use my position to become a leader," she smiled.

>"I haven't thought too deeply about politics yet. It's still a bit early to think about becoming Prime Minister!"

I really hope the Japanese people don't give her the time of day. The the whole idea of multiculturism and promoted or forced racial mixing is essentially genocide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

>…any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

>(a) Killing members of the group;

>(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

>(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

>(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

>(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

>>2227

>shitposting

Yeah there are shitposters in Japanese sites as well. But I have to say shitpostings on 8ch seem much more aggressive and abusive than Japanese ones.

I'm glad to hear you started working. At least you don't have to work for 12 hours/day like us.

I knew nothing about Turanism until you told me. It seems there are always some people attracted to mythology or some sort. Most people, including Japanese, do not believe such nonsense.

I haven't watched latest news(I might have missed something), all I've read about Russia's excuse for opposing EU destroying boats is "not humanetarian".

I almost laughed reading it. I guess it's just a matter of time we will find out what Russia is up to.

>>2228

The sourcematerial of Hokkaido University was interesting to read(although I haven't finished reading it yet).

"Finns were even related to the Japanese" - why do people jump into conlusion just because there are some similarities, e.g. language, figure, culture?

>Japanese-Jewish common ancestry theory

No, nothing like that happening here. I'll be paying attention on this, you know I don't trust the media.

>>2236

There was a topic(thread) in 2ch regarding her in the last few months, not once but at least three times(probably more). Obviously someone wants to bring it up again and again.

I am so sick of hearing her story of "bullied at school", practically she's telling the world that Japanese are racists.

What she says in the article doesn't surprise me, I was always suspicious there must be some political agenda behind her winning the beauty contest.

I noticed some anon posted in 2ch, that someone(possibly connected to the selection committee)approached her and persuaded her to enter the contest when she was walking down the street. I don't know if it's true or not, but I think it's quite possible.

In my opinion she's just a poster girl for promoting multiculturalism. So who or what organization behind it?

This might sound like a conspiracy theory, but I suspect international Jewish financial capitalists are behind it. They are in control of the US, the US controls LDP party.

Second payment

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/05/14/national/politics-diplomacy/abe-says-new-security-bills-are-not-war-legislation/

>>2236

http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/35vay4/black_miss_japan_fights_for_race_revolution_i/?sort=confidence

They're talking abut US military bases in Japan. That's not the issue here.

>>2237

>At least you don't have to work for 12 hours/day like us.

I don't know if barely working is much better. I am working at my friends shop, but since people don't have that much disposable income these days, there are very little customers. They opened a bookstore next door that was open for only a month or two before it had to close.

>It seems there are always some people attracted to mythology or some sort. Most people, including Japanese, do not believe such nonsense.

I guess people find purpose in such grand ideas that they can't get in their normal day to day lives. While they generally are only a small minority, if they get large enough they can get enough credibility that even the people who are normally dismissive of such ideas might begin to believe in them.

>I've read about Russia's excuse for opposing EU destroying boats is "not humanetarian". I almost laughed reading it.

I can really understand the sentiment, considering the embeded video.

>>2238

>why do people jump into conlusion just because there are some similarities

They either have a political agenda that they want to happen and their ideologies are only an excuse to get others to believe in them and give them legitimacy. Others who believe in such ideas do not understand how likely it is for such things just being coincidences and do not have the grasp in scientific methods to see if the idea is in any way credible.

>>2247

In Japan, PM Koizumi(2001-2006, LDP party)promoted neo-liberal monetary policies, which eased restrictions for large scale retail stores. As a result big stores appeared everywhere in every cities and towns, which forced small shop owners to close their business.

>video related

Now, ironically those big stores are threatened, some actually dissapeared because people buy products through online shopping.

>Russia

The video you embeded shows they don't hesitate to kill, that's what I call Russia.

>>2248

Japanese internet users don't like Miyamoto, not because of her dark coloured skin, but because of her behavior. Every time she talks to the media she empasizes the part "bullied because of my dark cloured skin" which would give impression to the readers that she is a victim of racism.

Racism, as you mention there, is totally different from bullying. If she got refused to go into a restaurants or shops because she is half-black, that's racism. We don't have signs like "no black allowed" or "pure Japanese only" anywhere.

>I can't change things overnight but in 100-200 years there will be very few pure Japanese left

Who will be pleased to hear this if you are a Japanese? This kind of statements she makes really put us off.

>Jewish

There were two major ancestral groups of Jewish, one are ashkenazi jews, another are sephardic jews,

although when we say Jewish we don't really distinguish the two.

>Jews in high places

Unitted States Secretary of the Treasury

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Secretary_of_the_Treasury

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Lew

>A 2011 press release from the Religion News Service noted that Lew also "has extensive connections in the American Jewish community," and that he might be able to help President Obama "build a more friendly rapport" with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neal_S._Wolin

>his mother, Doris Wolin, worked for the Jewish Federation of Metropolitan Chicago as a director of the Israel Experience, a program that assists young Jews to visit Israel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_A._Levey

>He grew up in Jewish family

US Trade Representative

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Froman

Other famous Jews in the US

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_businesspeople

>FEMEN

I've never heard of such feminist organization. Why are they so extreme? I have no idea what they want either. Whatever ridiculous things they do though, if people don't take them seriously(I hope they don't), and whoever funding stop funding the organization should dissapear.

>>2248

>that first pic

My god that is so ridiculious, I'm having a hard time believing this is serious.

>>2249

>In Japan, PM Koizumi(2001-2006, LDP party)promoted neo-liberal monetary policies, which eased restrictions for large scale retail stores

Politicians only help themselves and their buddies. Almost no one goes into politics just because of a sense of duty let alone stick to those principles.

>The video you embeded shows they don't hesitate to kill, that's what I call Russia.

I am not sure if the pirates actually were on the boat, or if the boat was empty at the time they started shooting at it, but I think it still makes the point that Russians claiming that sinking a smuggler's boat is unethical is hypocritical. It is to everyone's benefit that everyone thinks that Russians kill the pirates that they catch, since it discourages piracy because pirates can not know for certain if they will come across Russians.

>>2250

>Japanese internet users don't like Miyamoto, not because of her dark coloured skin, but because of her behavior.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=race+baiter

I find it a huge problem in public debate these days that people very often pull the racecard if they are different ethnicity than the other person is. It means that any criticism towards people from ethnic groups that originate from Africa or Middle-East often is replied with accusations of racism, even if the critique is directed at the persons own actions. The problem of letting such baseless accusations go around without being called out, is that since it's acceptable practice in a public debate it is quite effective way to discredit an innocent person or just make them shut up which allows the politicians, who at least outwardly stand for multiculturism and minorities, to use it for silencing their political opposition.

Vid embeded is kinda related. The video is about the feminist idea of "rape culture" which blames western culture for promoting rape, but when a man at 3:50 gets to point out that overwhelming majority of western men don't tolerate rape and that muslim immigrants have higher rate of rapists and that they do have gangs that are guilty of a lot of rapes, his voice is drowned in gasps, boos and what not. It is a good example of how baseless accusations towards western people and culture are accepted but any criticism towards other cultures or ethnic groups is considered blasphemy, even if the there is proof.

The video is also a good example how you can affect people's opinions. They clearly hand picked the audience so that they would reflect their own feminist multicultural point of view which gives the viewers the impression that it is the most popular and the right way to think about the subject, or at least that you would get shunned if you disagree with them. This leads many clueless people to accept the multicultural narrative because they don't question what they saw, or that people go along with it out of fear. It also has an effect on their opponents, who might end up thinking that feminists and multiculturists are more popular than they actually are and as a result they hide their true beliefs and don't talk about it, which allows the multiculturists to keep spreading their view with less of a hindrance. At it's core it is all about social pressure and shaming. They surround individuals with their likeminded comrades and pressure them to accept their views or come under their shaming and harrasment. People generally want to avoid social confrontations and because of that their methods often work. That is the reason why multiculturists, feminists and such are often very loud and obnoxious.

>Why are they so extreme?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix5-jqQYU1M

That is a good video on the subject. The person in the video has a long history with feminists. Basically the radical feminist organizations formed around women who had bad experiences with certain men and/or were just crazy and then went on to generalize the problems they had with certain men to all men. Most feminist organizations these days are more or less radical, but FEMEN is one of the most radical ones.

Multiculturists, feminists, all kinds of leftists, LGBT and such often work together and support eachother. They mostly spread through education, in universities and such, but also recently through internet. Such ideas often spread through isolating the person from other ideas and immersing them in their dogma until they accept it, much like cults operate. Universities are ideal for this since people often mostly interact with other students and teachers who can preach their ideology. Internet is also suitable, especially in the case that the person in question is mostly a shut-in that only interacts with certain people on the internet.

>>2250

>>I can't change things overnight but in 100-200 years there will be very few pure Japanese left

What the fuck, she actually said this? That's not right man.

>>2256

Yep she certainly did.

Pls see >>2236

>>2254

I watched the BBC video.

The title 'rape culture' is pretty shocking, at least shocking enough to draw people's attention.

The British muslim girl's opinion seems to be based on her own thoughts "we muslims are minority, thus we are facing racism" which has nothing to do with the subject "raping women".

Labour MP Lisa's statement "Boys don't understand the concept of consent" is unbelievable. England must be the third world country then!

When James guy started talking based on statistics and data and refers to muslim gangs, the British muslim girl goes crazy, telling it's a lie. If she really thinks religion or race shouldn't be brought up, why was she so satisfied when James said most of the rape crimes were committed by white men?

Seems to me majority of the audience are supporters for the femisits to begin with. There may be others there, but as you say people tend to avoid social confrontations, especially there's a racial issue involved. The program was not even a debate, but just a joke.

One thing I've noticed watching debates, English or Japanese program, is that if one party keep interrupting their opponents and don't even give them opportunity to finish what they have to say, are usually wrong.

It's good to know somebody like Erin Pizzy, who has seen history of femisism movements, explains what went wrong and trying to stop them.

She says she received(probably still receiving)death threats and bomb threats, just goes to show radical feminists are nothing but cult.

>>2262

To be cynical about it, "rape culture" is a construct used by women who feel guilty about their lives to feel better.

Sex and sexual activity are very close to all our hearts for good reason, because they are very important and emotional affairs. So when men and women end up sleeping around there can be strong feelings of guilt and such.

When people (well, women here) feel guilt, it is easier to blame society for 'rape culture' than it is to look at their own actions and motives.

>>2265

I don't get it.

> when men and women end up sleeping around there can be strong feelings of guilt and such.

Being Japanese, I have to argue about this from Japanese point of view.

There are men and women who sleep around in Japan as well. Some of them feel guilty about their behavior because they are married or involved with someone, meaning they feel guilty for betraying them.

If men(single, free from any serious relationship) feel guilty for slepping around, do they blame society like those feminists?

And how do you explain feminists(not all of them but still)tend to promote multiculturalism?

>>2267

You mean in the West? Probably less. Feminists already have the 'rape culture' thing going, I don't think there is an equivalent for men yet.

I am actually a university student from Asia studying in the UK, so I don't pretend to understand the culture fully. I don't plan on staying here though since I have opportunities back home.

As for feminists and multiculturalism - I couldn't say. Perhaps because it's part of the "approved" political agenda - to be leftist you must approve of multiculturalism as well.

>>2262

> If she really thinks religion or race shouldn't be brought up, why was she so satisfied when James said most of the rape crimes were committed by white men?

Classical double standards. They can see nothing wrong with ethnic minorities because in their reasoning everything bad that happens is caused by the white males who are oppressing everyone else.

>if one party keep interrupting their opponents and don't even give them opportunity to finish what they have to say, are usually wrong

I have noticed this as well. If they had any sound arguments they would not have to scream or shout, they could over come the other side just by debate. But since what they are saying is not true, they have to drown out and silence the opposition by shouting, labeling and outright threatening. That is the only way they can gain any ground, because otherwise any reasonable person would just laugh at them.

>It's good to know somebody like Erin Pizzy

Indeed, she is a good person. I really like watching her videos. Did you pay attention to when she mentioned that at the beginning a lot of the feminists were marxist? There still are a lot of marxists there, I will come back to it later.

>just goes to show radical feminists are nothing but cult

Exactly. They operate like a cult because they can not find support by trying to reason with people because their own reasoning is flawed and does not reflect the reality.

>>2267

>If men(single, free from any serious relationship) feel guilty for slepping around, do they blame society like those feminists?

A lot of people feel regret and shame after having sex, especially with a stranger. The feminists then came up with the concept of "rape culture" to excuse themselves and other women from feeling shame for having sex with strangers. Their reasoning is that the men take advantage of the women they sleep with, especially if she is drunk (even though the male is usually drunk as well) and that men alone are responsible for the sexual act. Thus, any sexual encounter where a female feels regret afterwards is in their reasoning rape. They then argue that because the western culture allows this kind "rape" to happen, the western culture is a "rape culture". As they count such events as rapes in their own statistics, the feminists add them up with actual rapes and parade the now seriously swollen numbers around saying things like "one in four women will get raped during their life" and bullshit like that.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/03/columbia-student-i-didn-t-rape-her.html

There have already been a lot of cases where women who have regretted having sex later sued people for "raping" them. Some people have gone to prison because of it, but even if they are cleared of all charges, they still face heavy labeling by the feminists, their allies and all the people who only hear the feminist side of the story (the Jew controlled media). All this basically discourages men from having sex with women and that undermines the western culture and white people. It is part of the cultural war against western culture. Miss Miyamoto and her benefactors clearly wish to expand that war to Japan and against the Japanese people.

>>2271

>And how do you explain feminists(not all of them but still)tend to promote multiculturalism?

They think that just as white men oppress women, they also oppress other ethnicities. But I think it isn't quite as simple as that and to find out why they think this way we have to go way back. Here is where I come back to Marxism. Marxism emerged before the WW1 and at it's core the idea was that commoners were exploited as a workforce while the rich and powerful grow fat from their work because they own the factories and the common man had no choice but to go along to get enough money to survive. According to Marxism, working classes would internationally unite, violently overthrow the upperclass and a war would be the trigger. WW1 proved that people's national identity was a stronger force and that working class people would rather go to war fighting against other working class people than rise up against their higher ups. Only in Russia did a Communist uprising take place, but even then it was with the German backing. Here we should note that a lot of the people who rose to power in Russia were Jews (Vladimir Lenin was at least part Jew, Lev Kamenev, Grigory Zinoviev and Leon Trotsky) and Karl Marx himself of course was a Jew. At the end of the world war 1 there was a civil war in Germany where communists tried to take control, but republicans eventually won. Majority of the Communist movement's leaders were Jews (Rosa Luxemburg, Kurt Eisner, Karl Radek, Leo Jogiches, Ernst Toller, Gustav Landauer, Eugen Levine and Paul Levi).

After Marxism failed, the Jewish Communists in Germany formed Frankfurt School where they pondered what went wrong. When Nazis came to power, Frankfurt School moved to US. They argued that the working class was getting to wealthy and thus didn't have interest for a Communist uprising. They had to find a new group of people to drive the revolution forward and they came up with other supposedly oppressed groups of people: women, ethnic and sexual minorities etc. To drive them forward they came up with Critical Theory where the idea is to criticize any accepted norms that they perceive contribute to oppression. This effectively made the idea cultural, instead of just political, and since it was derived from Marxism it is often called Cultural Marxism. Leftists will claim that Cultural Marxism is a consipiracy theory, but I think this is only yet again one type of labeling that they practice with any other group of people or idea that opposes them. While all the branches of the Cultural Marxism seem separate, they share the same ideological roots and because of that they often work together.

What is their real purpose is difficult to say, but judging how Soviet Union turned out, I would say that equal treatment of people in a country where everyone has what they need is not their true intention. Communism has been used as the ultimate form of populism to form totalitarian states without actually keeping their promisses. As for who is controlling the Cultural Marxists, considering how Jews were behind the idea to begin with, they would be a safe bet. Soviet Union contributed to the movement's popularity in the past and it is very possible that they did form cells of Cultural Marxism to sow disent among their opponents and that those same cells keep operating even today. It is clear that Cultural Marxist are specifically attacking Western culture. They complain all the time while rarely come up with better alternatives and always ignore foreign cultures where the same problem is even worse.

I would also point out that many other political parties support Cultural Marxist ideas, such as most Liberals and even Capitalists. They often do it for positive PR, such as saying that they stand for equal treatment and things like that, but for example in Sweden the Capitalists are directly benefiting from immigration. As we earlier in this thread noticed, the immigration in Sweden has raised the housing prices up, which benefits the people who own houses and rent apartments. And considering how most of the immigrant's expenses are paid by tax payer money, they are basically using immigrants to move tax money through rents into their own pockets.

>>2275

>for example in Sweden the Capitalists are directly benefiting from immigration. As we earlier in this thread noticed, the immigration in Sweden has raised the housing prices up, which benefits the people who own houses and rent apartments. And considering how most of the immigrant's expenses are paid by tax payer money, they are basically using immigrants to move tax money through rents into their own pockets.

Well, shit, I never thought of it that way before. I was always wondering who benefited from taking in immigrants.

>>2281

http://www.europeanguardian.com/81-uncategorised/immigration/192-former-swedish-minister-becomes-asylum-entrepreneur

Here is one of them.

http://www.europeanguardian.com/81-uncategorised/immigration/240-native-swedes-evicted-in-order-to-give-housing-for-asylum-seekers

Here you can get some idea how much they make with it.

>>2239

Capitalism is not compatible with multiculturalism because the multiculturalists promote anticapitalist policies like antidiscrimination and affirmative action.

>>1979

>She's a pretty lady.

ooga booga gib banan

>>2275

Though interestingly most communist Jews were anti-Jew.

>>2275

The claims about Cultural Marxism do constitute a conspiracy theory: a theory that there exists a conspiracy. It happens also to be a true theory in this case.

>>2275

>As for who is controlling the Cultural Marxists, considering how Jews were behind the idea to begin with, they would be a safe bet.

I doubt there's any clear leadership group - safest bet is that it's a serendipitous conspiracy.

>They complain all the time

Well, yes, that's the definition of Critical Theory.

>pic related, ms. ape VS Japanese cosplayer. Who do you think deserves to represent Japan?

The one that makes your dick twitch the most. Knowing this, the weeaboos will pick the pure Jap every single time.