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What makes /justvideogames/ different from all those other boards?
/justvideogames/ is a video game discussion board. This board is a bit different from a place like /v/ in that it is not video games with a slice of /b/ justified under the pretense of “board culture”. The only board culture here has to do with video games! This board is different from /svidya/ (or at least how it used to be) because we won’t ever try to tell you whether your post is “high quality” enough to stay on the board. Every post does not need to be an essay. As long as you keep it about video games, go wild! It is not our call to decide whether an opinion on a game or video game topic is acceptable—we are only here to ensure the topic of discussion (that of video games) stays focused. And finally, this board is different from other alternatives like /vvv/ in that we do not believe in the concept of “zero moderation”. Without any moderation at all, every board no matter what the outlined goal of discussion is eventually turns into an anarchic free-for-all like /b/. Newcomers come in, see the random fun everyone is having either ironically or not, and slowly user replacement edges the topic away from its original intention. We won’t let that happen here. Rest assured: when you browse the catalog on /justvideogames/ looking for something about video games to discuss, you won’t have to wade through a bunch of off-topic stuff to get to it.
Here are the current rules we've devised after some deliberation. Keep in mind these rules are still a work in progress and these may end up changing a bit down the line.
THE RULES
1. If it’s video games, it stays! We won’t attempt to police your opinion on video games!
2. If it isn’t video games, well anon we have plenty of other boards on 8ch to facilitate your topic of discussion. And in the event that we don’t, you can always just make one of your own!
We do not believe in rules against “trolling” or “shitposting” because it is simply too difficult to consistently ascertain whether someone is trolling or genuine; whether they’re simply saying something disagreeable or trying to stir up shit. These sorts of rules are always open to personal interpretation from individual volunteers, which lead them inevitably to individual abuse such as a person looking for the flimsiest of excuses to remove an opinion they simply don’t like. We have all seen this happen on too many internet forums (chans or otherwise) to know better.
3. Spoiler your non-worksafe images please; it’s only courteous. Also if video game porn threads ever begin to take up too much of the catalog we may have to intervene. We all remember what happened to 4chan's /gif/ board.
4. No advertising! I hope this doesn’t go against our stated intention of avoiding abuse, but we will try our best to remove advertising in only the most clear-cut instances.
5. Please don’t flood the board with many of the same threads, remember that the catalog exists.
6. Dubs posting and other ways to draw attention to the fact that a 10% chance event happened to your post are /b/ shit and thus do not belong on /justvideogames/. You're perfectly fine to voice your disapproval of a thread by calling the OP a faggot in multiple ways and placing a shiny SAGE on your post, but we will not allow the perpetuation of off-topic spam. You don't fight shit by flinging more shit around. Dubs is just /b/ garbage that encourages the posting of more /b/ garbage.
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This thread is generally for discussing stuff about the board with users and your volunteers. Please keep meta discussion in this thread.
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give you credit for acting on your beliefs
but sorry man, its probably gonna fall like most other /v/ alternatives did.
Good luck out there anyways, bud!
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Here's Hotwheel's twitter to tell him how shitty of a mod Mark is: https://twitter.com/HW_BEAT_THAT
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What kind of control do you have over your own board? Can you change the maximum number of pages it can have?
A big problem I see with slow boards is that it's filled with dead, old threads.
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>>5
This. Also is there any way I can apply to be a mod? I don't have much else to do all day and I've been getting on chans for around 6 years so I know what I should and shouldn't do.
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>>4
dude he wont (and shouldn't) do anything
/v/ is not hotwheels' board. Hotwheels should have as little control over what board owners can do as possible.
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>>5
This. Also is there any way I can apply to be a mod? I don't have much else to do all day and I've been getting on chans for around 6 years so I know what I should and shouldn't do.
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>>4
Do it yourself, motherfucker.
Also, board owner, what's your stance on IDs?
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>>8
I don't know. It's just that so far it appears that his theory doesn't work. People won't leave a board even if the mod is fucking terrible, especially if the mod is fucking terrible because they'll ban opposition before anyone has a chance to see it. Then you have to deal with the fact that nobody will be able to find (or even want to visit) something other than '/v/' and that boards other than /v/, /b/, and /pol/ are quite literally slow as fuck and generally take like 10 minutes to load.
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>>5
Also, post ID's are useful as fuck. It makes shitposters 1000x easier to ignore without having to ban those fags.
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Allow Webm threads or else we ain't gonna stop sucking jewish cock.
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>>11
>what's your stance on IDs?
I think they're pretty useful. It helps in some conversations like 'wait what restaurant is he talking about? oh he's the guy that was talking about chicago so that's where that place is'. It doesn't really work the way people assume where it's the same as a tripfag username. More like an irl name in that everyone has one but nobody gives a fuck what your random jerk off name is because of that. Everyone is still unique but nobody is 'special' and 'important'.
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Also board owner what's your stance on things that are technically off topic but not shitposting? Like 4am threads where people just talk about how they're doing and whatnot?
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>>5
Yes, you can set the maximum number of pages to a wide variety of options. It goes from just 1 page to up to 25 pages. I've set it to 15 for now, as /v/ does, but it may even be a good for a new board to choose something smaller, to force users to create new threads regularly.
>>7
Depending on how much traffic this board gets I will probably need some more volunteers at some point. I plan to set up an IRC channel (no, it won't be on fucking Rizon) and then I'm going to need to vet people personally. Also anon remember that the term for mods on 8ch is "volunteer". This keeps us all legally safe from the burden of shit like the DMCA or CP.
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>>17
>Also anon remember that the term for mods on 8ch is "volunteer"
Oh yeah I always forget that. Also what powers do the volunteers that joined have compared to the ones that created the board?
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>>11
Coming from other places like 7chan and 99chan I used to think thread IDs would be a great compromise between their no-privacy-at-all style of board IDs and full anonymity. The idea is that you would get the benefits of keeping track of discussion without compromising the benefits of anonymous discussion.
My experience on 8ch has really changed my mind now. I have found thread IDs to be detrimental to both the spirit and advantages of true anonymous discussion.
Take a long thread with a long-lived discussion for instance. With thread IDs, posters are less inclined to casually speak their mind early in the discussion, because what ends up happening is other posters will judge their later arguments based on something said previously, instead of evaluating those argument solely on their own merits. Wasn't that the focus of anonymity? To allow arguments to be judged alone, without the character of the person making them providing a distraction? However minor a character thread IDs end up developing for a poster, it is still enough in those threads to deter people from speaking their minds as freely as they would otherwise.
I believe that Thread IDs are an obstacle to truly free discussion and expression. What little gains they do provide (detecting samefags, astroturfing, undercover marketing), are both easily circumvented if you know what you're doing, and are not worth the toll to discussion they ultimately end up taking. I have seen at least a few instances over the months now of undercover marketing and astroturfing that were not prevented by thread IDs. Meanwhile thread IDs just give people an excuse to dismiss you entirely when you say something they don't like by connecting everything you've said to your weakest post.
The absolute most frustrating form of trolling I have come across in years has happened here on 8ch, where someone accused me of being a samefag and an undercover marketer just for expressing two separate thoughts in two separate posts.
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>>17
I vote that we keep the page limit somewhere down to 5 or less.
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>>24
That'd be interesting.
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>>14
WebM threads are fine as long as they're video game WebMs. /v/ has a huge problem with WebM threads being nothing more than an excuse to post off-topic shit.
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>>22
Never thought of it that way. That makes sense. I'm fine either way if we have them or not but now that you've brought that up I'm more inclined to say have them off.
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>>22
And I will note that board volunteers can see both thread-specific IDs of posts and a unique hash representing their IP across threads. So as long as your volunteers are diligent at keeping an eye out for marketers, there's really no need for anonymous to have that information.
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How does a board even get well known? How do we advertise and shit for this? I suggest we reply to 8chan or Hotwheels twitter posts saying shit like 'want /v/ without Marks fuckery? come here'.
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>>15
Honestly if you're really concerned about people keeping track of you when you're talking just use a tripcode. You get those benefits as you see them, but as it's optional nobody else gets affected by the cons. And yes, I know it is a lost art but it is completely possible to use a tripcode without being a huge faggot attention whore. I think. I hope I don't regret saying that.
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>>22
>>15
Interesting. I've noticed I'd been trying to harmonise my posts in a thread because of IDs; for instance, I'd refrain from shitposting in a thread where I might post something more serious later. In a board where vidya discussion is heavily encouraged, that might not be a problem.
One thing I've seen completely disappear, though, is the usual "Not him, but…" during a conversation.
No.32
>>16
Those are catch-all socialization threads and they have no place on /justvideogames/. If you want to socialize make sure it pertains to video games somehow.
Acceptable 4am thread:
"What video game ya playin' at this late hour anon?"
Not acceptable 4am thread:
"It's 4am so I need to rehash this incredibly played out off-topic meme so here's an image that has nothing to do with video games and with no text to accompany it."
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No.33
Also another thing to think about is how long should certain bans be? I suggest something like this:
>forgot to spoiler porn
1 second ban just to show them a message saying 'hey man don't forget to spoiler that shit'
>posted something off topic (like a completely off topic webm thread)
5 minute ban
>Blatant shitposting
30 minute ban the first time, 2 hour ban the second time
>All shit (except accidentally spoilered porn)
Allow appeals and let users say 'sorry man won't happen again' to give them another chance. If they abuse that and immediately do the shit again ban them for 30 minutes.
The big thing is making it where we clearly don't allow people shitposting all over the place however we're kind enough and don't ban people for fuckhuge amounts of time that they'll see we aren't dicks and come back later for legitimate discussion. In every shitposter there's a little faggot who just wants to talk about video games. We just have to try and bring out that faggot so they'll stay on our board instead of dismissing it because they were banned for a week for posting something as trivial as an off topic webm.
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>>33
>Blatant shitposting
How do you define blatant shitposting?
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>>33
I am really not a fan of lengthy bans in general. We'll see how much patience I ultimately have for people who never learn their lesson, but I certainly won't be banning for shit like a week except for the most repetitive offenders. Your parameters sound pretty reasonable to me to start off with.
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>>32
I think some of that should be allowed because you have to think, sometimes you want to talk about how your day is going but you don't want to do it with faggots on /b/ or anyone else. You want to talk with people on /v/ who you know are similar to you. I say we should allow 4am threads (since they never really get in the way because of the time they're made) and friday night threads but don't allow just any thread where people are dicking around. It would help people get that part of them out and also make a lot of people want to stay here. I'm not saying that's necessarily a bad thing not allowing them but if we didn't a lot of people would see us as bad guys.
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>>34
>Make funny joke using lyrics to a song or something making funny of a video game/company
Shitposting but good natured shitposting
>HURR IM FUCKIN RETARDED LELELELELE XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD HURR DURR IMMA POST TRAP PORN :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
Blatant shitposting
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>>25
The vulnerability to having so few pages however is that the board becomes a target for killing it with spam. I really hope that's not something I need to worry about, but I'm reluctant to bump it down to 5 for now because of that.
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>>42
Guess that doesn't work when editing.
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>>42
This. Also it's off putting to some people and would make them more reluctant to join this board.
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>>42
Didn't think of that, but I doubt a high page count is going to prevent spammers. I remember /cyber/ was spammed to death a bunch of times and they had at least 15 pages, if I remember right.
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>>44
I'm more reluctant in joining a dead board with pages of dead threads.
>>42
It wouldn't matter. People shouldn't be spamming anyways. Just give one day bans to those fags. Besides, I think the max pages for a board need to reflect it's activity.
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>>12
>People won't leave a board even if the mod is fucking terrible
It used to be the same on halfchan because people thought "where else would I go?" and yet here we are. The biggest hurdle for any kind of alternative /v/ is the name. /v/ as the vidya board is just so ingrained in most ex-4channers that anything different doesn't seem "authentic" (and, of course, doesn't have the history). Once you realize that it's mostly the same faggots on the same site the name of the board itself isn't as big of a deal.
>>36
I disagree that just socialization should be allowed. /v/ already has that in its 4am threads and this board is supposed to only be vidya-related discussion only, which is what separates it from /v/.
No.50
Well I think I'm going to compromise at 10 pages for now. I'd really like to try out 5 but the prospect of getting bombed like I've seen happen on other boards makes me a bit apprehensive.
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>>49
>I disagree that just socialization should be allowed. /v/ already has that in its 4am threads and this board is supposed to only be vidya-related discussion only, which is what separates it from /v/.
It's also what killed /svidya/. I don't think we should allow blatantly off topic things or social threads every 30 minutes but 4am threads and friday night threads shouldn't hurt anything.
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>>51
I thought what killed /svidya/ was its "no fun allowed" policies, wide(r) "shitposting" definition, and the consequent soft requirement for longer posts. Maybe one cyclical thread would be a good compromise?
No.53
I guess it somehow slipped that rule copypaste up above, but let me clarify right now that dubs posting is /b/ shit. You're perfectly fine to voice your disapproval of a thread by calling the OP a faggot in multiple ways and placing a shiny SAGE on your post, but we will not allow the perpetuation of off-topic spam. You don't fight shit by flinging more shit around. Dubs is /b/ garbage that encourages the posting of more /b/ garbage.
No.54
>>52
Sounds good to me. I'm fine either way but I think if we banned those type of threads we would have a lot of people shitting on us and leaving because of it.
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>>53
THIS MOTHERFUCKER GETS IT
Ho. Lee. Fuk. Do you know how long I've wanted someone to come out and enforce this shit? Dubs is literally something you get over after the first few weeks of posting on an imageboard. Sure sometimes it's cool when you have a 500000 post or something but who the fuck cares about a 99 or a 333? It's so common to see dubs and trips and even quints on an imageboard it's the equivalent to going 'HOLY SHIT YOU JUST POSTED A .JPG' or 'This thread is shit, post .gifs'
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>>54
Frankly we are not very interested in people who come to a video game discussion board to talk about how hard their life is. We all experience hard times every now and then anon. But we view /justvideogames/ as a place where people should be able to escape the other worries of life and talk about the thing they love: video games. It's fine if a game discussion turns to something personal at some point; that is the nature of anonymous discussion. But threads made for the sole purpose of talking about how your day went do not belong on /justvideogames/.
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>dubs banned because people can't use filter
BOTC
No.67
>>66
You can use that same lazy cop out to justify any example of off-topic shit.
No.74
It looks like /svidya/ is actually getting some posts again and may yet be salvageable after all. Now I'm kind of torn between this board and that one.
No.89
Sounds good. Its something I needed. I'll keep posting 4-5 posts here a day as well on at /svidya/.
No.90
By the way, how is your mental state/temperance and etc? I'd just like to know because many BO's failed due to stress and other similar factors.
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>>90
I like to think I'm a very empathetic person who is always striving to understand things from others' points of view and to be tactful.
On the other hand I can be a very stubborn person and have a tendency to stick doggedly to my convictions. In the case of this board, that's probably a good thing.
No.610
ayo where the banners at mah chicken nugger? i had an idea for one but ive only got ten million hours in paint. might try it anyway. does anyone know where i could get a backgroundless 8chan logo and the banner size?
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>>610
Haven't banners been disabled for several months actually? I'm not sure what the status is on them now.
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>>613
no? do you not visit other boards?
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>>622
>>622
Where are they located? All I see are ads at the top any bottom of pages anymore.
No.629
>>623
at the top of the page, like theyve always been.
No.630
>>629
Oh what the hell, I've been blocking those with my adblocker for months for some reason.
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>>629
>>630
Still seems to be disabled however. Maybe support will return once we switch to infinitechan?
No.682
So it seems that /svidya/ has reformed to be almost but not quite the same sort of board that /justvideogames/ is now. Think I should keep this board going or let it go now?
No.683
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So apparently Mark was tripfagging in this thread, I told him to stop and then all that I posted in various threads were deleted. Everything.
https://archive.is/zHwOu
It extended to even another thread about weeb games, I was talking about Sailor Moon and my early animes. Those posts were deleted. I ban evaded Mark, and told everyone in that thread that post was deleted and the IP was perma banned, in the ban report it said I was swarmi.
https://archive.is/NjETH
IN A THREAD THAT I TOLD HIM TO STOP TRIPFAGGING, HE THINKS I'm A NOTORIOUS TRIPFAGGER?
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>>683
Gettin' real sick of that guy's bullshit.
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Is this the end of /justvideogames/? I'd like to hold on to it, just in case.
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