6b37a8 No.314499
Well I couldn't see any threads in the catalog aside from people making fun of britbongs on the topic of knives so I made one.
What's the best knife for a stabbing spree extensive use?
Nah but seriously I need a good knife, something better than a fucking pocket knife and I was thinking about getting a proper M9 Bayonet but I'm not sure if they're overpriced shit or not. What do you guts think?
404a26 No.314505
Had a smooth-backed glock combat knife for about ten years. For $20 it's a good knife and durable enough for everything I've done with it. Also pretty fun for throwing.
f24012 No.314506
Moras and Opinels are cheap and good enough for most people's use.
For serious innawoods, kabar, glock knife, traditional scandi knife, condor bushcraft knife etc all seem fine.
Anything with a fixed blade, no serrations, carbon steel and a good heat treat is 100% useful. That's why so many good knives exist out there.
3355ac No.314519
>>314499
I have
>>314501
I have 3 (though proper k-bar)
I'd say I have over 100 knives, which makes me a terrorist in BANNED IN BRITAIN
I have OTF, balisongs, you name it.
But I never owned a kukuri.
Anyone care to tell me how they like it?
d2aa70 No.314524
Pardon me if this is a stupid question.
Does anybody know where (or even if) I could find the prints for the M7/M9 crossguard and latch assembly?
Or failing that, does anyone make a knife based on the same platform that isn't $200+, mallninja bait, or both?
404a26 No.314528
>>314519
http://www.atlantacutlery.com/p-959-assam-rifles-kukri.aspx
Have something that looks like this, though since I picked it up at a gun show, I'm not sure whether it's a similar make or that exact one. It's got a pleasantly thick spine, comes quite sharp, and shouldn't run more than $40-50. Loath as I am to recommend them, Cold Steel's kukri machete has also been a good investment, without the usual hilt wobble some of their knives had.
Most any kukri will be a great chopper, good even for small trees. It does all the work of a machete, some are a bit more compact, and have a good swing. No reason not to grab one, unless you're drowning in steel.
771a78 No.314535
>>314524
Ganzo G712. Literally mall ninja bait for ~$20. It's an alright copy of the benchmade bedlam 860 which was featured in CSGO as the flip knife, which makes it extra mall ninja
>>314528
Kukri or standard machete? Assuming I'd need to hack up a goon to get his firearm and/or go innawoods
d2aa70 No.314539
>>314524
>M7/M9 latch assembly
To clarify, I mean this thing.
It's nothing that I can't make, I just don't know the proper dimensions and tolerances.
940a1b No.314541
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Give me the name of a reasonably prices, good, full tang knife with no riff-raff.
f24012 No.314547
>>314541
Type condor fixed blade into amerzone and there you go.
Or type mora if you are poor.
Glock knife like the other person said is good too.
This shit is literally:
good steel
good heat treat
carbon steel
full tang
There's no reason to recommend any single product when there are thousands that qualify.
Some people like turning Old Hickory knives into bushcraft tools. They're also an inexpensive knife that fulfills the bare minimum of what you need in a knife.
You could spend $200 or you could spent $15.
f24012 No.314548
>>314541
Type condor fixed blade into amerzone and there you go.
Glock knife like the other person said is good too.
This shit is literally:
good steel
good heat treat
carbon steel
full tang
There's no reason to recommend any single product when there are thousands that qualify.
Some people like turning Old Hickory knives into bushcraft tools. They're also an inexpensive knife that fulfills the bare minimum of what you need in a knife.
You could spend $200 or you could spent $15.
Full tang isn't even strictly necessary for a knife unless you're going to be doing axe work with it or abusing it. People have been using stick tangs on knives for ages.
f24012 No.314549
>>314548
Shit it told me it didn't submit.
fef487 No.314625
Puukko. Guts Fish and Reindeer, skins them too. Can carve wood for whatever reason and has a +20 to damage against Slavs.
87dc36 No.314703
>>314499
A multipurpose knife for general work looks exactly like this >>314501
First of all notice that the tang, the metal part of the handle, goes fully through the grip. This means that the grip is stronger than the rest of the knife, and so if any catastrophic failure happens it will happen in the blade (which is slightly weaker) - not the grip (which is slightly stronger). When a half-tang grip fails, the tang actually embeds itself in the hand, so a full-tang is a hand-saving design.
Second of all notice that the region where the tang and the blade meet is not cut in sharp corners, but a smooth curve. This is sometimes called a C or S cut, whereas a T or Y cut is when the tang has sharp angles. The smoother curve helps distribute the stress and makes it less likely that the tang will simply snap off. This is mostly a knife-saving design, especially when hard work is expected of the knife (wood whittling/chopping etc).
As long as these two facts are there, it's hard to fuck up a work knife. Some other good qualities are a thicker more slowly tapered blade, or a smooth pommel.
If you want I can make another for fighting knives.
39c57f No.314720
>strq+f
>no ESEE
shame on you guys, their knives are pretty nice
8f2afe No.314775
>>314703
>If you want I can make another for fighting knives.
Yes
904b4b No.314843
>>314703
Thanks Strelok! Another would be greatly appreciated! How does the full tang save the hand of the user? I'm not doubting you, i just doon;t understand
c3c3c9 No.314860
>>314843
When shit hits the fan so hard your knife breaks, the weakest part of the knife is going to be the part that snaps. If the tang only goes halfway down, that empty part of the handle is going to be the part that snaps, driving the now-exposed point of the tang into your palm. When the tang goes all the way down, no part of the handle is weaker than the blade, so the blade will break instead.
be33da No.314862
>>314729
You got it m8. I have the a1 with leather sheath.
904b4b No.314863
>>314860
Thanks, that makes sense. What about in the case of k-bar, where the tang looks much weaker than the blade?
87dc36 No.314892
>>314775
>>314843
Ok.
Fighting knives are not multipurpose, and are never used for difficult tasks like the cutting of wood, so the rules which apply to multipurpose working knives don't apply to fighting knives.
And what applies to multipurpose working knives does not apply to specialized working knives such as fish gutters, tanners etc.
Most classic fighting knives take the form of daggers, specifically stiletto type daggers. I'm not sure why this is but it's a constant across cultures and time periods. The first thing you might notice on this classic fighting knife is that it has a double edged blade. There are two main reasons for this; a knife with two edges can be used to inflict damage on reverse moves in the case of a locked blade, and a double edged blade with a central spine offers more stability and penetrating ease to the bilateral tip. This kind of blade is not a must for fighting, but it is the most efficient blade possible. The double edge allows it to cut surface arteries, and the shape of the blade allows it to penetrate deep for organ damage or the assured kill of the abdominal artery.
Next you'll notice a neat little square at the root of the blade. This is not a mistake or a just a place to put the manufacturers mark and model, this useful part of the knife is called a Ricasso. One way to use a ricasso is to place the thumb on the flat part give the user more control of the knife during the thrusting motion. Another way is to place the forefinger right beyond the guard, giving him more control in the slicing lateral movements. This particular knife is called the Fairbairn Sykes, and only the earliest parts still have the ricasso. Later variants omit this part, probably because of ease of manufacture and the difficulty in training the troops to properly use it.
After the ricasso there is the guard. As we can see, the guard is not symmetric along the edge axis, because the knife is not meant to be flipped around. The directionality is an important part of the ricasso technique, and it is also omitted in later variants. But regardless, the guard is important so that when the handle is slicked with blood and gore, the hand doesn't slip forward on the blade. Knives without a guard are simply not fighting knives.
The same non-slip mentality is present on the grip, in the form of a checkered surface. As we can see the tang goes the full length of the blade but the tang merge is completely different from the working knife. The merge is a T-type and very thin because cutting flesh isn't likely to snap the blade in half. The reason for this becomes apparent in the bulge and material of the grip - balance. The grip is designed to prevent the hand from slipping, and to provide a counterbalance to the weight of the blade. A well balanced blade is easier to move quickly because (like an elevator) less force is needed to move a balanced fulcrum.
The last part is the pommel. In the working knife the pommel helps aid in some harder tasks as a lever, but in the fighting knife the pommel is another weapons to hurt the enemy with. The pommel is more flexible weapon than the blade, for example when well used the pommel can disorient an enemy without killing him.
>>314863
That's a good question, and the answer is that the Ka-Bar has the tang of a fighting knife. Something meant to slice and cut soft flesh, but which snaps when exposed to more serious work.
Ka-Bar tries to be both a fighting knife and a working knife, but takes the WORST parts of both. As a fighting knife it's unbalanced and lacks the thrusting potential of the dagger. As a working knife it's not robust enough to cut anything tougher than a few layers of denim fabric.
404a26 No.314893
>>314892
>>314892
I assume the stiletto form is used because it leads to a lighter blade to help with balance, is easier to thrust between the ribs, and has less of a chance to jam on bone and get stuck in the body.
87dc36 No.314896
904b4b No.314933
>>314892
Great guide, thanks for all the info! Please don't take this this the wrong way, but if the ka-bar is not a great knife, why has it been used for such a long time and adored my so many troops?
f24012 No.314945
>>314933
I have a marines ka-bar (vintage) and it's perfectly fine as a combat blade. Bowies were also used for years.
Some people idolize the F-Sykes design, but it's not by any means the only effective fighting knife design.
042321 No.314946
Hammers can do anything knives can do but better and cheaper. Why buy a 400 dollar knife when a top tier hammer is 18 bucks at walmart? It seems ridiculous to be that anyone could prefer something so finicky, hard to maintain, expensive, and hard to use when such a great and obvious alternative sits unused or un-thought-of in the sidelines. If I wanted to buy a 400 dollar knife, I would just buy 400 dollars worth of hammers and extend my capabilities greatly. Not only does 400 dollars worth of hammers last you a lifetime of handy-work, but it will also last you about half a life-time if you're using them at fighting hammers. Speaking of fighting, hammers are undeniably superior as weapons. They're quick, have great reach, break bone, require little training, and since its not illegal to carry a hammer anywhere but great britain, you'll always have it within reach. Furthermore, unlike knives, hammers can be thrown easily with little technique to inflict massive damage, either on an advancing opponent, or a fleeing one, and you don't have to worry about which end it point or time the rotation of the hammer; both ends are dull and its damage comes from its mass.
TL;DR hammers are better knife fags, why don't you just keep on buying your tacti-cool toys from the mall, and talking about how you could THEORETICALLY use them, let the REAL men use REAL weapons to protect your fat pasty white asses when shit hits the fan, while you're prancing around with your knife poking at people.
f24012 No.314949
>>314946
A sharp piece of steel is always more dangerous than a percussion weapon.
Go shill your hammers elsewhere to petty criminals and hardware store ninjas.
042321 No.314952
>>314949
Sure kid, the only person in danger a knife is the person holding it. If he were holding a hammer, everyone within 100 yard should run.
9cb27c No.314988
> ESEE
> Benchmade
> Spyderco
> Kershaw
> morakniv
All good brands
44fe19 No.315003
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Besides the fact that you're a faggot, you make a very valid point.
The one, single, little detail you forgot to touch on is that one little thing called weight.
As much as I can personally attest to the superiority of hammers (I've been unknowingly training in hammer-jutsu as a heavy-duty mechanic for the past five years), there is no fucking way I'd trade in my spyderco military for that beauty of a 3lb Estwing mallet I have shoved in the bottom of my toolbox.
Also, hammer porn
44fe19 No.315004
87dc36 No.315009
>>314933
>adored
Que?
Ka-Bars are essentially a hunting knife which has been tacticooled for military purposes.
The first production runs were ok, but eventually the contract was farmed out to be mass produced by the lowest bidder. If I recall, it was some kind of cheapo kitchen utensil manufacturer from Deboise.
Most produced knives were kept in locked emergency survival kits without ever being used. Of those that were used were used, the main use was opening MREs, while the main military use was by bailed out pilots to cut paracord rope.
Because it was an iconic post-war issued knife, Ka Bar was popularized globally by action movies. From then, sales took off and shitty copies farmed out to some jungle sweatshop in Indonesia or Thailand produced even worse examples.
It's not NEARLY close enough to as good a knife as the US military could design if the government actually gave a fuck.
My memory is hazy but the last time a US troop used a knife in combat it was some piece of shit dime store 3 inch folding knife.
>>314946
AXE FOR THE AXE GOD
HATCHET FOR THE HATCHET THRONE
ce7abf No.315012
>>315003
I'm intrigued.
This is now a hammer thread
44fe19 No.315021
My precious.
Also, check this faggot out.
I'm gonna stop posting hammers now.
dbdc92 No.315059
>>315003
>>315023
>Estwing
muh niggas
A hatchet is fine too
91b0fb No.315126
>>315009
>Que?
¿Como?
>>314949
>not using a tactical hammer to crush your foes
I seriously googled 'tactical hammer' and I couldn't believe that they actually existed.
>>315003
The only ones who can use hammers as weapons are autistic or insane jacket users like the Driver and Jacket.
6b37a8 No.315128
Op back I was busy being a faggot.
>>314501
Thanks m8, I ended up ordering one.
>>315003
You're autistic. Unless you hit someone in the head, and it's unprotected, you won't do any serious damage. You underestimate the lethalness of a blade, one good stab pretty much anywhere and you're bleeding BAD, two stabs and you'll probably be bleeding out unconscious from the pain and blood loss.
>inb4 "but look at all these people that survived stabbings"
That's because people are retarded and use like 4 inch blades.
1249e0 No.315145
>>314501
>Becker
Mah nigga
Pic related my Bk-7 brand new
38bfb2 No.315147
If you're looking for a one handed open, Consider Raven Crest Tactical.
I like the company, but haven't had a chance to handle one of their knives in person.
577236 No.315149
>>314946
I would pay to see your retarded ass try to cut some paracord with a hammer
dfa637 No.315153
>>314720
I have an izula 2, pricey but plenty sturdy.
I also went on a whim and bought a schwartz edc knife, i regret that purchase.
1fde65 No.315184
>Not using a hammer like a real human bean.
Nigger what.
a8c85c No.315192
post your shitty balisongs
1a8313 No.315231
>>315128
Good deal. Once you hold it you'll be in love. You'll immediately understand why people call them sharpened pry bars. I got some wooden scales on the way, can't wait. Also thinking of stripping the black finish off once it starts wearing out because it looks dead sexy that way.
1a8313 No.315236
87dc36 No.315469
>Knives and shit thread
>hammers
The shit part of Knives and shit.
810480 No.315532
I'd like to recommend Buck 119 specials, something nice about cocobolo and brass. I've had issues where it took longer to sharpen but it's edge longer than my Kabar.
>>315126
I remember picking up a mallninja magazine once and saw ads for tactical wooden clubs and tomahawks. The club was just a gray oak branch but with a $250 price tag.
b1ed58 No.315615
>>315128
>he's never broken a bone
A blade is lethal.
A hammer is much better for disabling a target, which can then be lethal. Further, hammers don't need as much finesse. While a master knife-wielder can fuck someone up, you don't need to be a master hammer-wielder to fuck someone up (but it helps).
It's not like armor ever stopped a hammer anyway; warhammers were originally made to counter field plate.
042321 No.315634
>>315469
Say that to my face, my HAMMER face, IRL and not online, see what happens to YOUR FACE, bud
feebc0 No.315658
>All this autistic Hammerposting
>Hurr Durr superior weapon
A knife is mostly a tool, not a dedicated weapon. Do you know what is a Machete?
eca5de No.315661
>>315658
>Do you know what is a Machete?
>Not shilling superior kukri
f24012 No.315690
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>>315615
>master knife-wielder
Listen fool, any criminal can use a knife to kill someone and they do it all the time.
Anyone can pick up a knife and use it. Some basic training helps but it would with a hammer also.
All you really need to know is slashing is generally regarded as safer but is almost always less lethal, and stabs are less safe but far more lethal.
A piece of sharp metal like a knife, especially when it has a handguard, is extremely dangerous. Against a hammer, all someone has to do is rush in and control the arm holding it because it's a percussion weapon and can't work if bound up/held against the body/constrained. But get in close with a knife and you will get fucking rekt, m80. Knifestrelok will stab you 100 times in the time it takes you to get off one or two swings with your hammershit.
There's a reason long knives are used by criminals instead of hammers.
There's a reason our military carry long knives and not hammers.
There's a reason third world uprisings usually involve lots of machetes aka really long knives, not hammers.
9e0a09 No.316287
>>315761
Sorry Mexibro, but El Salvador covers all my Central American-made machete (and machete like object) needs.
fb66db No.316331
Anybody here use a BK-3?
The pommel is great for smashing, and I haven't much use for the belt-cutter.
I don't get why so many call it an 'exotic knife' though, it is a bit on the stranger side, edge-wise (mine came blunt though, guess I deserve that for ordering off amazon).
This is built like a hammer though, fucking great at chopping and intimidating.
Also do you guys have any personal favorite folders? I've got an HK Axis with combo edge for more portable use/rope-cutting, and two decent Kershaws for lighter carry.
7d7fcf No.316335
>>315690
>There's a reason our military carry long knives and not hammers.
There is also a reason why Soldiers in WW1 and WW2 stopped using their Bayonets and Knifes and started to use Clubs and Spades for close quarter fighting.
Brits are proud of the Gurkhas and their kukris, but they got their asses handed to them in close combat by German Fallschirmjägers armed with nothing but Spades.
And you know what the reason is? Length. Length in close combat equals and triumphs speed. Standard kukri and other "long" knifes(including most Machete blades) just reach a length of up to 60 cm, standard Spades back in WW1 and WW2 had a length of 70 cm. And the Fallschirmjägers as European were bigger, than the Asian Gurkhas.
Thus the Fallschirmjägers could easily bash the heads of the Gurkhas in, before the Gurkhas even got able to stab or slash at the Fallschirmjägers.
a918cf No.316346
>>316331
Own a BK3. Fun knife, pretty much a hammer, like you said. Mine was decently sharp, but the belt cutter is piss dull. I will say though, the chisel edge makes for easy/odd sharpening. Almost forget a few times when doing lazy sharpening with pull through sharpeners
33c15a No.316354
>>316346
Did you end up getting those Micarta Scales for the BK3?
I was a sucker for the stuff, since micarta is so comfy and bought em pretty soon after owning the BK3, maybe even thinking of dyeing it a dark brown or an OD green.
f24012 No.316355
>>316335
A spade is not a hammer, hammerbro. They sharpen the edges of spades btw. It's trivial to mention that length > blade, but conventional hammers don't have much if any reach advantage over long fixed-blade knives.
042321 No.316359
>>316355
Not even hard bro, unlike knives, hammers are not confined to a single form, like evolution and nature itself, the hammer changes, which is further evidence that it is the weapon humanity was meant to wield. Knives are foreign, dirty, and meager when compared to the godlike form and strength of the hammer.
f24012 No.316362
>>316359
>unlike knives, hammers are not confined to a single form
>unlike knives
>UNLIKE KNIVES
lol u wot m8? Yeah you're right, a bowie knife, a seax, a hunting knife, a folder, a puukko, a leuku, a kukri, a machete, a fairbarn-sykes, they're all the exact same form.
BTW the hammer example you gave in pic related is much to heavy and unbalanced for use in combat. As compared to a combat bowie/knife like the type used in WW1, there's no contest in lethality, ease of use and carrying/wearing comfort.
https://cdn.globalauctionplatform.com/e333f5a7-b3d0-46f4-8472-a44a00d7d040/648a8b0f-3cb1-43dd-8406-d0bfdf321fa4/original.jpg
042321 No.316366
>>316362
No its not unheavy or unbalanced, its perfectly balanced to deliver deadly blows to opponents, you wouldn't understand since you've never experienced combat.
dbdc92 No.316369
>>316366
A sledge hammer is weighted and built nothing like a war hammer. Just like an axe for chopping wood is a lot heavier than an axe made for chopping people.
f24012 No.316376
>>316369
True. They don't even made a modern war hammer, which is yet more proof that the hammer is outdated pleb-tier trash that was only useful in the late middle ages when people wore shit-tons of armor.
And even in that period, the rondell dagger was employed with great success against armored opponents, proving again the superiority of the knife even when fighting opponents wearing plates specifically designed to turn blades aside.
dbdc92 No.316394
>>316376
It really depends on what secondary functions you want it to serve. An axe/hammer has window/door breaching abilities that a knife/sword doesn't. So when your enemies are behind cover because they've locked themselves in the bathroom and are crying in the corner you can breach their cover and get to them.
042321 No.316396
>>316376
Hammer > knife friendo, sorry but even anime is on my side
87dc36 No.316412
>>316359
Bullshit knives evolve quicker. Soon they'll evolve sentience.
2b7526 No.316416
>>316412
I literally owned that exact nerf gun. That thing was fucking powerful.
ccb9fe No.316426
8a82a3 No.316437
>>315126
That company also makes spears with the same exact shaft and finger molded grip near the head, just replaced with a spear point. If only we could combine the best of both worlds of a knife, hammer and axe…oh wait what we could do is implement a shortened two handed poleaxe and add in a detachable single bladed spear head with finger sized ring holes to act as a separate carving tool in addition to the already apparent capabilities of a hammer and an axe.
ab4cb0 No.316463
Just bought this:
http://archive.is/B0UcI
Thoughts, /k/?
ef7c7f No.316474
I only make full tang knives out of whatever I can source. Right now I have several brushhog blades made out of 5160 which works quite well.
I don't usually work off of a set pattern though, I hammer the blades out with only a vague idea of what I want (A skinning knife, a survival knife, a fillet knife, chopping knife, etc) and let the blades take on their own shape. It's not Ideal if you want to drastically improve your knife making skills, but it is fun and people get bored looking at the same kind of knife over and over.
Personally? I wouldn't trust my life to any knife that wasn't full tang. Rattail tangs normally have a lot more weaknesses in them because of the heat difference between the knife blade and the tang that can lead to the area being very weak. The problems with a half-tang have already been talked about.
If any of you ever buy or want to buy a damascus or patternwelded knife, ask if it's a full tang or not. Those fuckers will try to rip you off if they think they can save a few ounces of material. **If you want a work knive, something with a lot of longevity, don't buy a patternwelded knife, modern monosteels are much stronger and durable than a composite.
3164b0 No.316490
How are surplus AK bayonets for innawoods (especially considering price)?
940a1b No.316514
>>315649
Ya got me
>>316422
I have a serbian genoice version, with black bakelite. Bought in Croatia.
They're good and sturdy, and the wire cutter is a nice plus. It'll most likely be covered in cosmoline, though.
dd8987 No.316519
>>315532
Picked up one a few weeks ago, its too pretty for me to use though, I got a glock knife for that.
fef487 No.316525
>>316490
Blades have a problem with holding an edge.
ef7c7f No.316551
>>316519
>denying a tool it's only function
f83235 No.316589
>>316412
Looks like a fucking Skrill from Earth Final Conflict.
537644 No.316590
eca5de No.316594
>>316474
That's a really nice blade.
I think the tang thing only comes down to what purpose the knife is for, the heavier duty it is, the more a full tang is needed. The average city apartment civilian might only ever need a folding blade, whilst anyone further into the country with a back yard and shit will more or less need a full tang.
>>316519
>its too pretty for me to use
pure /k/ancer
>>316412
Finally my knaifu can love me back
eb07d1 No.316615
ef7c7f No.316624
>>316615
Pretty good movie. The ending was pretty stupid though.
7aae9b No.316657
I want to buy a knife muela for general work
But I'm to poor and i just have money to buy one
ef7c7f No.318429
>>316657
Mexibro, I made this knife in maybe 5 or 7 hours. You don't need to buy a knife you can make one.
I made this out of 5160 steel, some brass rod I had laying around and some ash burl slats.
d46e9a No.318481
>>316362
>not using a sledgehammer in cqc
87dc36 No.318553
>>318429
Hello vyrkas :)
That's a very nice knife, I had a similar one for skinning small game.
ef7c7f No.318561
>>318553
YOU CAN TELL ME WHERE TO SHITPOST, I'M A FREE MAN
91b0fb No.318778
>>314892
>>315753
I also caped this one.
2df06b No.318800
>>316355
>A spade is not a hammer, hammerbro.
I am not hammerbro. If its trivial to mention that length > blade, why did the Strelok writing about "fighting knifes" forget this?
The Fairbairn Sykes despite its name is not a real Fighting Knife, its a Stiletto designed to ambush and kill Sentries. For a real Fighting Knife its Blade too short and every Nigger with a Machete out ranges it.
f24012 No.318819
>>318800
In my experience, people in the knife community can get a bit blinded by all this fairbarn-sykes cultism and tend to forget about the knives people carried as fighting sidearms throughout history. Plenty of them were single-blade and didn't fit the Sykes design, but worked just as well if not better (again, often because of greater reach, like the seax.) Even the double-edged blades like the pugio were not stilettos.
Still, there's a trade-off with length. If it's too long, you cannot conceal it. Many historical bowie knives were only about 9-12 inches. But it's definitely true that the longer weapon almost always has the advantage provided the balance is such you can effectively use it.
Machetes are time-tested as peasant uprising weapons precisely because they are long and sharp and the steel is usually soft enough to take multiple impacts. In my opinion, properly-sharpened machetes > so-called combat knives in fair duels. The advantage of the knife is its ease of carry and use in covert operations/extreme close quarters.
But if we're just comparing knives, a d-guard bowie > fairbarn sykes bullshit all day every day.
http://www.amazon.com/Confederate-Bowie-Knives-Jack-Melton/dp/1931464529
Link related these are the kinds of knives (along with seax and pugio and khanjar and others) that people historically took into open warfare expecting to use them against resisting opponents in combat.
f4aa53 No.319393
This arrived today, what a fuckin beauty.
ad4a5c No.319529
>>319393
Krauser!? I thought you died in that helicopter crash two years ago!
7aae9b No.319634
>>318429
Good knife men
Simple but cool
I like it
ad4a5c No.319814
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>>319634
I could make you a cuchillo or a gaucho knife
dbd627 No.319824
>>316589
Been so long since that was on that I don't even remember if it was any good.
a8d431 No.319999
>not Sebenza knives
It's like you guys hate fit and finishes of high quality
91b0fb No.320015
>>319999
Damn, I can't say 'no' to those quads.
a8d431 No.320018
>>320015
I've waited almost 2 years to bring back the Sebenza knife meme back, I saw my chance and took it.
b09c4b No.320357
>>314501
>>315145
Just ordered one of these Beckers myself. Very happy I did. I'm going to have to wait a few weeks because of a shipping mixup, though.
Got one of these twenty-two-buck Bushmen to fill the void while I wait. Honestly I'll probably end up using it a lot more.
5d806f No.320370
Bought this just today. Not really for anything practical except to keep by my bedside for self defence since I live in cuckstralia. It's pretty, isn't it? Apparently Damascus steel, horn and brass handle.
b09c4b No.320385
>>320370
Just so you know, there is no such thing as Damascus steel on the consumer market. All modern recreation attempts have only managed to match the superficial appearance with a technique called 'pattern welding'.
True Damascus steel has much denser swirls and has all kinds of odd properties, including carbon nanotubes embedded in the alloy. These properties come from the method of making it, and the specific kind of raw iron that Syria was importing during the middle ages.
That said, modern steels are generally superior to Damascus steel. Cosmetically "Damascus" blades like yours are pretty, of course.
5d806f No.320392
>>320385
Thanks for the info.
b09c4b No.320400
>>320392
no problem.
Pattern-weld steel generally isn't shit. I'm sure that blade will serve you well for any situation that's likely to arise in the bedroom. From shortening shoelaces to opening boxes to cutting rags, even self defense and murdering your cheating whore of a wife and that son of a bitch Denny whom you loved like a fucking brother, man.
87dc36 No.320476
>>320370
Bone grips make my crotch moist.
87dc36 No.320483
>>320385
Ancient Damascus steel was likely iron ore contaminated with sulfur, silicon, phosphorus and manganese, in just the right proportion.
The carbon and the method of manufacture had very little to do with the structural properties of the blade, other than producing pretty patterns.
When the mine it came from ran out of the metal no more swords could be made, and Europeans eventually figured out how to make better alloys themselves.
b09c4b No.320496
>>320476
posted on halfchan yesterday. he said the leather handle had rotted away…
>>320483
Yeah. The most important factor in steel quality is purity and homogeneity of the steel. Which you achieve first and foremost with higher crucible temperatures. When Europe began to master coal-fired furnaces and multi-stage smelting, mastery of the world soon followed.
0681f0 No.320644
http://kershaw.kaiusaltd.com/knives/knife/brawler
I can get this for 25 shekels. Is it worth it for a good beginner EDC knife?
91b0fb No.320672
>>320400
>murdering your cheating whore of a wife and that son of a bitch Denny whom you loved like a fucking brother, man.
Ha ha ha, what a story, Anon.
6067b0 No.320676
>>320644
Its a folding knife despite spyderco bullshit or whatever its just a light work tool, get what you want (flashy side opening or spring assist to wave your dick at your friends) it doesn't really matter other than whether or not the blade can hold an edge, because you probably only want to sharpen after a while and not sharpen every 3 times you cut string, you will not baton with it nor should you try to pry hard with it.
So basically shit WILL work kershaw is a company that makes knives that don't disintegrate by looking at it hard and if you need to depend your life on it get a fixed blade
39ce5e No.320695
Also, which would fare out better? A 440c Chinese made knife (more accurately, a full tang blade blank, as I would be wrapping paracord and/or making wood grips from scrap) or just get a Glock knife (considering how they're already cheap)
This is the blade blank I was referring to: http://usaknifemaker.com/knife-blades/kit-knives-blade-blanks/hunting-knife-blade-010-440c-steel.html
d47848 No.320982
Anyone who owns/has owned expandable batons? I'm interested in getting one, I've always gotten a kick out of these things.
A lot of the common ones look really thin/weak, though, like ASPs.
Ideally I'd like a Peacekeeper RCB or Bonowi, but those are kinda pricey, and Peacekeeper will only sell to law enforcement/military/security because they're in Commiefornia.
So I guess the main one I'm looking at is the Bonowi, but that price tag kind of has me hesitating.
8daa23 No.320987
What does /k/ think about push knives for self defense?
On one hand, it seems like it would be bretty good to be able to combine punching and stabbing.
On the other hand, the longest one I've seen is pic related, which has a blade only four and a half inches long. Not sure if that's enough to really do damage, especially against a big/fat guy.
b09c4b No.321005
>>320987
legal to CC in CO, but not everywhere. check your own state law first.
373a46 No.321007
>>320982
You are better off getting a knife. Everywhere I have lived they are not legal to carry, "Blah blah purpose blah blah." Which made no sense when I could OC a Bowie. As for them being weak I bought a 20 dollar asp and its hard as fuck, downside being I need to smash it on the floor to close it. Overall Gun/knife > baton, you look like a chode with police fantasies.
b09c4b No.321008
>>320987
also, the point (har har) of such a knife is to cause pain, draw blood, and make the opponent tend to his own wounds, forgetting about you so you can get away. you punch multiple times in rapid succession.
d5c722 No.321016
>>321008
It's legal to CC in my area, which is weird, because switchblades are not. You'd think a knife that can slice the fuck out of someone several times a second would be more dangerous than a "cool" clicky knife, but apparently the powers that be have decided that switchblades are an "assault weapon."
Honestly, what is it about gun/weapon laws? They all seem like they were created with no thought for logic whatsoever, but mere emotional rhetoric. And if you try to question said emotional rhetoric, the people who support the laws get all hysterical about how you're some evil child killer that wants to hurt people. It perplexes me.
>cause pain, draw blood, and make the opponent tend to his own wounds
I've never been in a serious fight-for-my-life kind of fight before, so maybe I just don't have the experiences necessary to judge this kind of thing, but ideally wouldn't you want to cause more damage than just "causing pain?"
I mean, maybe causing pain is enough if it's just some random guy being aggressive, but if you've got a big guy that's hopped up on adrenaline/drugs and who really wants to hurt you coming after your ass, wouldn't you want something that causes more damage?
I don't mean to sound edgy here, but if I'm in a serious self-defense situation, I'd want something that would hurt the guy that's attacking me as much as possible, for the simple reason that I'd want to fuck them up and end the fight as quickly as possible with as little chance of myself getting hurt as possible. And I don't know if a 4.5 inch blade would do that. So I'm not sure if I should go with a push knife or a regular knife.
IDK, my knowledge of human anatomy isn't amazing; maybe I'm just not knowledgeable enough.
d47848 No.321028
>>321007
>You are better off getting a knife
It seems feasible to me (and I've seen testimonials from cops and security who have used batons) that a GOOD baton could be a good counter to a knife attacker, allowing you to keep your distance and strike them from outside their stabbing range. And even better against an unarmed attacker.
>Everywhere I have lived they are not legal to carry,
Only California, Massachusetts, New York and Washington, D.C., have laws that prevent the general population from possessing a baton
It's legal where I live and most of the US.
>As for them being weak I bought a 20 dollar asp and its hard as fuck,
I have no doubt that cheap batons CAN be dangerous, but there's plenty of stories you can read (mostly from cops) about people trying to use one of those cheap batons and they just bend/fall apart. I'd rather invest in something more dependable if I actually get into a scrape. And batons seem useful not just for self-defense, but also could just generally be a handy tool that's very convenient to carry. Could use it for fending off wild dogs/animals, use it to break ice or knock aside some rocks when hiking, stuff like that.
>downside being I need to smash it on the floor to close it
Bonowi batons have a button-press unlock. And those are much more serious pieces of equipment than the cheapo $20 one you got. And with these things, you definitely get what you pay for. Go read reviews from both cops and civilians that say that cheap ASPs can't be relied on and they have no confidence in them, whereas Bonowi and Peacekeeper batons actually produce serious results. They're twice as thick as the usual slim batons you see going for less than $100.
>Overall Gun/knife
I really think a GOOD baton would have many uses over a knife. As for a gun, yeah a gun would be more powerful, but also more expensive. Plus, part of the reason I want a baton is because I just like them aesthetically and want to play around with it, while still capable of being relied upon as a weapon. With a gun, if I want to do much with it, I have to go way out in the woods. With a baton, I can go in my back yard and set up tire stacks and watermelons and stuff to smack whenever I want, no ammo or travel needed, no loud noise. Batons have their unique benefits.
>you look like a chode with police fantasies.
No need to be a rude cunt. And that's just a retarded assertion. So cops are the only ones allowed to own batons? I mentioned in my previous post that Peacekeepers are ruled out of my options because they're only sold to cops/military/security, which obviously means I have no intention of being any of those.
I just like batons and think they're cool, that's the main reason I want one. I do think they have unique qualities. But I like batons for the same reason I like guns, because they're interesting, fun, and useful pieces of equipment.
if anything, I'd be far more likely to be doing some criminal things with a baton. No idea where you get the impression that I have "police fantasies"
373a46 No.321036
>>321028
>un, yeah a gun would be more powerful, but also more expensive. Plus, part of the reason I want a baton is because I just like them aesthetically and want to play around with it, while still capable of being relied upon as a weapon. With a gun, if I want to do much with it, I have to go way out in the woods. With a baton, I can go in my back yard and set up tire stacks and watermelons and stuff to smack whenever I want, no ammo or travel needed, no loud noise. Batons have their unique benefits.
>>321028
Relax mayne, I get that a baton can be pretty good, and after I posted I started to reconsider my stance. Mostly a 12" stick is better than a 4" knife. As for the cop fantasy thing, it was wasn't a direct jab at you. Whenever I picture a guy with an asp is one of those takes-his-job-too-seriously- mallcops. I didn't delete my post because it would make me look like a bitch. I guess it depends on where I'm at, here in ohio where I am stuck for a while with all the nignogs I'm considering carrying one again.
d47848 No.321039
>>321007
>>321028
>Overall Gun/knife > baton
Something I forgot to add in my previous post. another nice thing about batons over a gun/knife is that a gun/knife will be a lot more messy and likely more lethal. A baton CAN be lethal, if you hit someone in the head or something, but you can also be more controlled with it and just hit someone in arms/legs/etc. to stun them or get them to back off, if they're just a drunk trying to start a fight but aren't deserving of getting killed, or something along those lines.
Plus it could be used for blocking, and the aforementioned range advantages against knives..
373a46 No.321042
>>321039
I'd rather kill the guy than have him bring back his chimp homies.
d47848 No.321043
>>321042
Well obviously when you're dealing with a dindu, you always use lethal force. Not just for self defense, but for the greater good of humanity
373a46 No.321047
>>321043
I never needed to defend myself from anything but the dindus, no respect.
d47848 No.321050
>>321047
Got any stories of your nig encounters that you could share?
seems like that'd still be on-topic, if you used a weapon in self-defense
373a46 No.321054
>>321050
First was a pack of niglets, not much. I literally said who wants to be the next treyvon and the will of the zimzam must have carried my voice and they left me be. The second time I was waking to the store, it was some keks.
>be walking to the store for a foam cup of that godmana Dr. Pepper.
>Take a new route, always change routes.
>See a niggo start shadowing me.
>Thatsnogood!.png
>Pick up pace and go different direction to see if he follows.
>He is a big guy.
>4 Me
>Be scrawny upperbody but I got those big legs.
>Think back to my jew-jitsu DVD my granny got me.
>I got this. I slow down and unfold my knife in my pocket.
>Tyrone grabs my arm
>Triggered.webm
>I was gonna be cool and calculated.
>"Muh PTSD"
>I sperg out and elbow the niggo in the dick.
>Turn around and try and stomp on his upper calf to get him on his knees like a cool guy
>Fucking fail
>Remember my knife and stab the guy in the arm.
>Really gross feeling as I cut through the mooscles
>RunbitchRun.mp3
>Run away to the store.
>get my Dr.Pepper.
>Totally worth it.
I never got that knife back. It was a nice fucking knife.
d47848 No.321089
>>321054
>Take a new route, always change routes.
What is the reasoning for changing up routes like this? Are there nigs that will study your route and try to ambush you on another day?
>I sperg out and elbow the niggo in the dick.
Must have been a giga-nigga to be tall enough that you could ELBOW him in the crotch or maybe you're a midget
b09c4b No.321117
>>321016
There was a lot of hysteria over switchblades in the 80s because in movies scary gangs always had them. We both know that an assisted-open knife is so close to being a switchbade that it barely matters
>Honestly, what is it about gun/weapon laws? They all seem like they were created with no thought for logic whatsoever, but mere emotional rhetoric.
You hit the nail on the head. And what we see in countries like England that can enact whatever restrictions they want, these laws fix nothing and there's apparently no limit to how ridiculous they can get.
> maybe I just don't have the experiences necessary to judge this kind of thing, but ideally wouldn't you want to cause more damage than just "causing pain?"
Sure. But what you can reasonably accomplish depends on your level of training and the weapons you're actually carrying. A punch dagger gives a small weak person a large advantage in a fight. It requires zero skill to use: if they can throw a punch or swing an arm at someone they can injure an opponent with it. Most importantly it's difficult to lose in a fracas, as it's balled up in their fist.
It's not an ideal weapon, but it's easily concealed and comfortable to carry. As a fixed blade it's always ready in an instant, where a larger folder wouldn't be. And many people wouldn't want a bigger fixed blade on their person. Remember that with a weapon that's purely for fighting, 99.9999% of the time you'll be wearing it, and 0.0001% of the time will you ever use it. So you want it to be comfy. No civilian is going to walk around all day erryday with a ka-bar or equivalent.
365fdb No.321140
>>321089
if you walk by a place of living every day and a person who doesnt work and is on welfare resides there he has all day to watch look out and if he sees you at the same time every day. hell remember that consciously or not. then when the welfare doesnt pay the crack bill any more mr. welfare will remember that skinny young white that always takes the same path every day at the same time
cade73 No.321242
>>321117
So would you recommend a regular knife over a punch dagger in a self-defense situation?
I'm referring more to an "on the streets" self defense. I know that in the home gun > all, but I feel like the most likely way to get attacked in public would be for someone to come up to you and grab/punch you, likely with little warning. As a result of the close conditions this would create, I feel like a gun, club, or other such weapon would be less effective, since you'd likely be within a foot of the person attacking you and those weapons would be more difficult to use in that situation. A knife just seems better for that kind of fight.
Am I correct in thinking this?
f268b3 No.321361
>>321242
hilariously enough, push knives are illegal in many states.
0f56dd No.321363
>>321361
Why "hilariously?" I mean, I wouldn't agree that they should be illegal, but it would seem to make sense to ban them from the scared leftist point of view – they seem like an "OMG scar-eeeeee bad weapon!"
8b9a5d No.321415
>>321242
Hilariously incorrect, actually.
Guns still work within a foot of an attacker. They also work ten feet away from an attacker. Hell, many a few hundred feet from an attacker.
Gunshots at close range ain't no joke. Virtually no effort required, easy to do if you've had even the most barebones of training, and always effective at tipping the odds in your favor assuming your shots land, which at a foot away they probably should.
Practice shooting at close distances. It's not rocket science to learn to fire a gun without bringing it up to bear totally, and the odds of it not being effective are much, much higher than it not being.
The same cannot be said about a knife unless you've had silly amounts of training with it that having read this thread I'm going to guess 99 percent of folks here haven't.
230255 No.321427
>>321415
So would a gun still be better/more usable than a knife if someone got you in a bearhug or had you pinned on the ground and was right on top of you?
d386ac No.321516
>>321427
If someone is grappling you and you're able to draw any weapon first be it a knife or a gun then you are probably going to hurt the other person very badly. There's no practical way to defend against either one especially if you're both on the floor. You've picked a highly specific scenario where the two weapons are pretty much equally dangerous and that's an unfair way to evaluate the issue. A knife's self-defense applications are eclipsed by those of firearms.
Here's another way to think about it. If you're carrying a knife you are defenseless against someone who attacks you with a gun. You are also defenseless against someone who attacks you with a knife, in the sense that it cannot keep you safe - only hurt your attacker back. That leaves defending yourself against an unarmed opponent. And if you use a knife against someone who isn't carrying any weapon at all then god help you because the jury won't. Even from a legal standpoint you'd be better off using a gun.
f24012 No.321517
>>320695
Get a glock knife if those are your choices. Chinese 440c is not good.
>>320982
Almost always illegal. Get a knife or CCW license.
>>321028
Reach trumps everything in most cases. The problem with the baton is legality. Good batons are not cheap enough that you can afford to have them repeatedly taken away by cops. And if you ever use it to defend yourself and it's illegal to carry, you're gonna be fucked in court.
>>321361
Case in point, any knife which has "combat" as its main role is often banned. Hell, a baseball bat in your car is often illegal. A small fixed-blade hunter is a better carry piece for defense, if only because it doesn't look lethal.
Remember that weapon laws are all about how a weapon LOOKS. It's why you can carry a claw hammer on your person but can't carry an asp.
d47848 No.321536
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>>321517
>Almost always illegal. Get a knife or CCW license.
Where are you getting this information about batons being so heavily restricted? In >>321028 I said:
>Only California, Massachusetts, New York and Washington, D.C., have laws that prevent the general population from possessing a baton
>It's legal where I live and most of the US
f24012 No.321538
>>321536
Well, I remember looking it up a while ago and found that in a lot of situations, use of a baton constitutes a deadly weapon or some shit and you're pretty fucked if you carry one.
http://www.my-self-defense.com/expandable-baton-laws.html
Even if it's legal to carry, it may be illegal to use.
d47848 No.321543
>>321538
That link mainly seems to be saying that expandable baton laws are vague and not often specifically mentioned. And when looking at the Bonowi batons on National Police Supply, they say that they're only barred from sending these batons to people in California, residents of other states can order them just fine.
And this link says that under my state's law, batons aren't even considered a "deadly weapon"
http://www.ehow.com/list_6796058_expandable-baton-laws-arizona.html
Seems to me like the restrictions on them aren't very pervasive throughout the entire US, and it's mostly just in the no-fun states.
685d4c No.321544
>>315126
my only question is if the pick can puncture a milspec helmet well enough.
7d802f No.321675
>>321016
>They all seem like they were created with no thought for logic whatsoever, but mere emotional rhetoric.
That would be liberals, yes.
87dc36 No.321693
1d7814 No.323071
>>320357
This arrived in the mail today. I'm overjoyed with it. Cold Steel is now shipping the bushman with a Kydex sheath that has a positive lock. The sheath even has an integrated sharpening steel with it. The single-piece construction of the blade is even nicer than I anticipated. I thought the finish would be slippery and I'd need to wrap it in grip tape, but it's actually a matte finish with a very reliable gripping surface. They even included a lanyard hole so I can bind it to a spear shaft properly. I was afraid I'd have to drill one myself.
And the steel is great. They claim a Rockwell hardness of 65 for this knife, which I find hard to believe. KaBar cro-van is a full ten points softer. But whether cold steel is lying or not, the stuff IS incredibly hard. It ships almost razor sharp. I just used it to turn a rough log into a baton, and after ten minutes of whacking and whittling, the blade is still as sharp.
But despite that hardness it's not brittle. It flexes very nicely.
If you have thirty bucks to spare I recommend you /k/ommandos get one off Amazon.
ab2bfa No.323107
Anyone else here have a woodsmans pal?
Love mine, great tool, feels good in the hand, and for being made in the 40's its in pretty good shape
e3b1e3 No.323165
>>323071
>amazon
>cold steel
m8. I would have bought a condor for the price but the Bushman is one of their not overpriced knives.
1d7814 No.323177
>>323165
>20 something plus shipping.
>Won't break easily.
>Hard to dull.
>Becomes a spear/glaive in two seconds.
I can't h8 myself m8.
Never heard of Condor, though. I'd surely like one of these.
5395cf No.323179
>>320987
>Not sure if that's enough to really do damage, especially against a big/fat guy.
You could say that about most knives short of a hugeass Bowie knife, I think.
I saw a video where a guy was saved from having his throat cut open by some random attacker due to having such a fat neck.
But if you're going for the throat or eyes with a push dagger, you should have great results.
1d7814 No.323185
>>323165
Oh now I see what you mean. They have something similar. However
> Handle seam not welded and polished
> Epoxy coating looks shittier
> 1075 steel not SK-5 (i.e. 1080 + manganese) so dulls faster
> Pre-wrapped paracord handle looks very dodgy as gripping surface
> Not laterally balanced: spear will pull to one side when thrown
> Shitty vinyl sheath
> Forty dollars more for small model
> Fifty dollars more for big model
Naw m8. Naw.
>>323179
The point of a push dagger is to inspire pain and panic in the person who just got punched five times in two seconds. Unless your attacker is total Auschwitz mode, you aren't going to hit an intestinal artery no matter how skinny he is.
5395cf No.323188
>>323185
>The point of a push dagger is to inspire pain and panic
That's retarded. Not only is that not reliable, but going for the throat or eyes like I said will actually incapacitate.
1d7814 No.323193
>>323188
Eyes specifically are a pretty tiny target for your punching fist. You mean "head and face".
Which are still most likely to be protected if you're facing an assailant in a fighting stance, and very likely to be unreachable if the person is already grappling you.
Assuming the blade is in a belt sheath or pocket, and you're being attacked I think of these as women's weapons as I've only known girls to carry them, the attacker's lower torso is going to be the easiest thing to hit.
Pain is very reliable. When most people are brutally injured they forget all about what they were doing and focus on protecting their injury.
But let's not get in a pserg argument for it. If you can mall-ninja an attacker's eyes or throat with your punch dagger, by all means do it.
5395cf No.323205
>>323193
>You mean "head and face".
It's really not that hard, unless they're bobbing and weaving like a boxer
>if you're facing an assailant in a fighting stance
Then how are you going to punch them 5 times in 2 seconds? At that point, everything but the hands and forearms will be out of reach.
>the attacker's lower torso is going to be the easiest thing to hit.
Assuming you're just pulling out the weapon and striking immediately, why would you waste the element of surprise by going for the gut?
>Pain is very reliable.
It's not, though. Look at any number of Jewtube videos of people shrugging off pepper spray because they're drugged up, been fighting, or both.
>But let's not get in a pserg argument for it.
We already were, and isn't that what imageboards are for?
1d7814 No.323209
>>323205
Fine, let's sperg then.
I imagine the standard use case for a push dagger is a person trying to get out of a grapple. In this sort of situation the attacker's head is going to be least accessible, and their lower body will be very close. So short, rapid punches will be the easiest strike.
What you're thinking of is a different situation I'm not visualizing well.
45f2b6 No.323225
Rambo knifes are gutter trash.
e20741 No.323262
I have a KA-BAR and I love the stacked leather grip. It feels good in the hand, has a good weight, keeps a good edge and it's what I carry when I'm hunting. My old roommate had a SOG Seal Pup (second image) that felt absolutely spectacular in my hand, as I've got smaller girly hands. It's light without feeling flimsy and has a slimmer, rubber checkerboard grip that just felt perfect. Can't speak to its utility but I do wish I had one.
As far as looks go I think that Blackjack (3rd/4th pic) are some of the best-looking fixed blade knives I've ever seen. I personally have the kukri but have never really used it as it was a gift. The brass of the handguard is already starting to tarnish and turn green just from the leather I keep it in, but that said I keep it in a nightstand and don't polish it or anything so that's most likely just my own neglect.
e20741 No.323265
>>323262
4th pic was lost to the 8ch wilds
4f6eb5 No.323268
>>323265
You can only post three images at a time on /k/.
1d7814 No.323566
>>323262
>>323265
Polish the tarnish off with fine grit sandpaper and treat the leather with a beeswax-based leather conditioner. This works very well for a Hema friend who has several carbon steel swords to care for. You should be able to pick some up at any leather shop.
1d7814 No.323567
>>323566
I should add you can put the wax directly on the blade before you sheath it.
Many blade manufacturers recommend you actually store rust-prone blades outside of their scabbards and use them only when you're carrying them.
2edeee No.323825
38bfb2 No.323877
>>320982
They can actually be pretty handy little bastards, if you know what you're doing.
and there is a lot more to them than just clubbing niggers.
It's bascically a very very short staff.
bea104 No.324014
What do my fellow /k/ommandos think?
03a8fa No.324042
>>319393
Were you the one in the other thread who said that you ordered it?
In here >>315349
Good shit btw.
3b6f85 No.324047
>>314949
You don't have to hit a specific artery with a hammer.
3b6f85 No.324048
>>315003
A good fighting hammer should have a handle of at least 12 inches.
3b6f85 No.324052
>>315128
A hammer can rupture organs with a swift blow, or send bone splinters through vital organs.
03a8fa No.324055
>>324052
Ouch, I felt that.
I guess I can see why warhammers may have been favored.
b6e9e1 No.324067
>>324047
However, with cuts, wounds get infected more easily. Double points if you shit on your blade beforehand Not to mention you get a nice patina.
87dc36 No.324076
>>324052
thats a murder… the fuck is wshh airing snuff films now?
5395cf No.324078
>>324076
Maybe he lived but he just needs help shitting from now on
05b334 No.324086
>>324052
>be tiny little manlet
>see some huge nigger
>he's got a hammer
>man Im going to steal his car this is going to be great
>take his car keys
>he catches me
>he asks for them back
>decide to fight this huge, armed nigger
>get fucked up so hard in a matter of seconds
>later in hospital contemplates what exactly went wrong
30b9f9 No.324094
>>324052
>>324076
>>324078
>>324086
Is there any way we can find out if he ded or not?
f8d13e No.324150
>>320987
>only 4 and 1/2
internal organs are barely beneath your skin, 4 and 1/2 can pierce stomach, lungs, heart, you name it
btw, that particular CS knife is a beast.
>>314499
bk9 is a good universal production knife, I like mine. The edge retention is mediocre but that's how low-carbide steels are.
most production fixed blades are shit. Ka-bar and ESEE are good, Ontario is decent. CS has good fixed blades but the rubber grips on their base models is shitty and falls apart quickly, and their premium fixed blades are overpriced.
if you want a knife just to kill people, check out Buck's NightHawk
b4fe94 No.324161
>>324150
>Becker
>low "carbide" steel
>Ka-bar and ESEE are good, Ontario is decent. CS has good fixed blades
>just talking out of my ass, I don't actually know
>if you want a knife just to kill people, check out Buck's NightHawk
>my knowledge of knives comes entirely from hanging ou at Walmart and a visiting a hardware store
Jesus. And I though 4chan's /k/ was fucking bad.
3e9540 No.324165
>>324014
>>324017
Too many people just let these beautys from the 60s and 70s rust away. You're going god's work keeping them alive.
Also, muh dick!
e6f532 No.324179
>>324086
>Conductor, we have a hammer
87e404 No.324220
>>324086
I don't think he ended up in the hospital…
Or that he ever contemplated anything again…
87e404 No.324222
>>324052
Also, we could use this as a scenario.
>For whatever reason, you're on the dark side of Detroit.
>Giga nigga comes up to you with hammer.
>Tries to beat your head in.
How do you protect yourself, /k/?
a67dce No.324234
why use a hammer when you can use a hand-crank drill?
or even a battery powered drill w/ hole saw
FUCK IT, GO STRAIGHT TO 20" ANGLE GRINDERS
a67dce No.324235
>>324222
hand him some skittles and a bottle of Arizona
91b0fb No.324236
>>324048
THIS TRIGGERS THE BERRY PICKERS
38bfb2 No.324302
>>324222
I pull out my sock dagger, my neck knife, throw it all onto the ground, then pull out my P2000 and shoot him in the fucking face while he's distracted because I'm not a fucking retard and would have my gun in such a shitty ass place
1d7814 No.324305
>>324076
For one thing, "snuff" is a movie where the intent in filming was to capture a murder, and the intent in the commission of the murder was to film it. None of this looks premeditated.
For another, of course WSHH is going to host a murder video. They do it all the time and this is nothing out of the ordinary. There are different moral standards for black people. They have a much more casual attitude towards human life. Your drunk friend takes your keys at the bar and demands a ride? Obviously you vent your anger on his skull with a hammer. What else would you do?
Keepin' it real, nigger.
87dc36 No.324368
>>324078
I doubt it. Getting shot in the head would be less damaging than that, because there would be a hole through which blood could leak out. This thing is bleeding in an enclosed space, and the pressure probably killed him in seconds.
http://www.tbiguide.com/howbrainhurt.html
>>324302
Don't forget the billiard ball.
>>324179
lel
1d7814 No.324535
>>324161
Carbides in the context of knife steels refer to carbon compounds dissolved into the iron/carbon matrix that aren't bound to carbon. In Ka-Bar's Cro-Van steel these carbides are formed from the vanadium that's added to the base 1095 that makes up the bulk of the blade. The carbides are supposed to add to wear resistance, and slow edge dulling.
That said, I don't actually know how the Becker line compares to other knives when it come to edge retention, as I've never owned a Ka-Bar. I hope you're right and this anon is indeed full of shit, because I just dropped eighty goddamned dollars on the Becker Bowie and I'm hoping the edge will at least be more wear resistant than my $20 CS Bushman.
I abuse the fuck out of my knives when I'm in the woods and it will be very disappointing if it doesn't hold up any better than a cheap Cold Steel which is actually a wonderful knife for the price.
1d7814 No.324538
>>324535
>compounds dissolved into the iron/carbon matrix that aren't bound to carbon
Er, that aren't bound to the iron.
i.e. a Vanadium carbide vs iron carbide whcih makes up 90% of the metal.
38bfb2 No.324545
>>324535
It doesn't sound like he's full of shit, honestly.
But I wouldn't know.
Most of my knives are designed very much for fucking stabbing people to death.
Daggers, paddle openers, and the odd multi-tool.
844f0b No.324562
7b924b No.324640
>>324558
>knife made out of pewter
That's a letter opener.
cd13b8 No.324677
I bought some rope, this is my second try and snake knot….
pretty fun
923ae7 No.324683
>>324640
Ceramic and polymer knives are the reason you have to get body scanned instead of metal detected.
Thank Ahkmed for that one.
fuck you, Ahkmed. Fuck you. You ruined a perfectly good plot.
it was also non-metal bombvests as well, but that one is less of an issues somehow
0372f2 No.324690
Mind if someone gives me the "red-pill" per say on Boker? I'm leaning towards their products but they're rather difficult to find in the states shy of specific dealers that are over 100 miles away from me and online buyers; they look to be overpriced just a tad, but I really do like the looks and feel of the Applegate series knives (my dad had one), and I've figured them to be no different than any other high tier manufacturer.
Anyone had any expierience with them?
72ce25 No.324878
>>324535
>more than my bushman
It will be a marginal improvement. Bushman 1055 probably has a burnt edge, I know their 1055 machetes are burnt as fuck, so you're going to have to grind a decent amount of steel off the edge and then put a new apex on it.
Ka-bar's edge is less burnt because more care is taken with the knife, but their 1095 is still run soft @ around 56 RC, Bushman is probably same as their machete's, around 50 RC. Thing is, 1095 has very little alloying metals, so there's nothing besides iron carbide, and relatively speaking iron is really soft, so you have a tough edge that doesn't last very long.
BK9 is really about the knife itself, its a good design. Its comfortable to skin animals with, splits wood well, hacks wood well, stabs/penetrates animals well. It also comes with a nice sheath.
72ce25 No.324879
>>324690
>Boker
overpriced Chinese crap
72ce25 No.324881
>>324535
but if you're looking for serious edge retention, don't both with production knives, find a good custom dealer, but not just any custom dealer because more than a few of them are con artists.
I own a custom d2 knife from Dozier and another from a guy named Charles May and they blow away those little Spyderco s110v knives, let alone run-of-the-mill 1095, its not even close.
f24012 No.324939
>>324690
Boker is shit my friend.
It's the same quality or inferior quality to a Chinese Sanrenmu or Enlan Bee knife, at 3x the price.
I have a cheapo Boker and I have some cheapo chinese knives like SRM, Bee and some unmarked ones. Even the unmarked chinese knives are higher-quality than that fucking Boker, man.
87dc36 No.324954
>>324683
Pewter would register in a metal detector.
bb893f No.325019
>>324954
What cha /k/ommandos think of this?
found a steel (heh) of a deal on this blade (from spyderco it's around 350 CAD, got it for 250 CAD) and it's incredibly sharp, might not keep it for long though, since it's huge
923ae7 No.325028
>>324954
>Pewter
Huh, always thought that was a ceramic.
f268b3 No.325030
>>325028
nah, it's a metal alloy. mostly tin, and (i think) copper. way too soft for making blades. metal beer steins use pewter.
923ae7 No.325033
>>325030
Eh, doesn't have to be that hard to make a shiv.
But yeah, I suppose that would make for a very poor edge.
87dc36 No.325093
>>325033
It's possible to harden pewter, but I'm not sure what the point is.
Bronze casts about as easily and is approximately exactly 2.6 times harder than pewter could ever be.
6d4c02 No.325099
I don't really know if this is the right thread, but whats the thing that's some wire in-between two blocks of wood called?
f8c8b4 No.325112
e3b1e3 No.325193
>>325019
Good taste, m8. Even if I personally think that Spyderco's greatest is the para 2.
7b924b No.325195
>>325030
Lead, Silver, and Tin.
Basically a cheap way of making silver goods. It looks very silvery when polished. Only more gray.
7b924b No.325196
>>325019
I cannot believe people pay even 70 for these things, much less any price over 100.
What are you faggots thinking?
87dc36 No.325204
bb893f No.325556
>>325196
idk man, feels fucking glorious in the hands, even if the liner is sticky as fuck.
also find a blade this size with this steel, with titanium handle at anywhere near 70 bucks
protip: you can't
f8d13e No.325615
>>325196
you get what you pay for
>>325019
Spyderco's steel is the best in any production knife, plus its cpm 10v, which has one of the very highest levels of edge retention of any steel.
Honestly, I was wary of the knife itself; its huge but also somehow delicate feeling and I hate that it only has two pivots holding everything together. But it does have a solid frame lock, so its probably good for killing people given the size of the blade, but then again it wasn't really designed for that. I honestly wasn't sure what exactly it was designed for.
You already have it so you might as well keep it at least until it goes out of production, then you can charge a fortune for it (and people will pay a fortune for it). Don't sell it for a loss unless you absolutely hate it.
and if you want to sharpen it for cheap buy 1) a crystolon stone and 2) a medium ceramic rod from lansky for 6 dollars.
Use the crystolon stone only when the edge is damaged and you need to remove alot of metal, otherwise the medium ceramic rod will get it sharp enough to easily shave hair.
f8d13e No.325618
>>314946
machete is way better than a hammer, dipshit
1091b3 No.325647
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>>324558
>copper
>aluminum
>pewter
If you needed to make a knife out of something other than steel or ceramic you'd go with bronze. Dive knifes used to be made of bronze as they didn't rust and because they wouldn't set off magnetic mines. With most nonferrous metals you can't harden and quench them like iron or steel, they can only obtain hardness through work hardening.
Bronze is incredibly antiquated as a blade material but it's a lovely material to work with, it moves so easy when you forge it it's almost like wet clay, not to mention that it has a unique beauty all of it's own.
>>324535
Carbon is a great addition to steel and most carbon steels are fine for knife making. However when you start to get above .90% the steel starts to become harder to forge because the carbon will burn out of it. The steel will also er on the side of hardness instead of toughness.
A 1.5% carbon steel razor will be able to cut through bone if you saw it back and forth but you could snap it with two fingers. Most modern steels depend heavily on differing alloying components. O1 has manganese, chromium, tungsten and almost as much carbon as 1095, but is far more durable and has superior rust/ corrosion resistance.
>>324878
This is why I file the edges of my knives before I heat treat them, honestly I don't know how or why they'd let knives with burnt edges even leave the factory because they'd be able to see the different surface oxides before they finished it.
>>324881
I agree with this, if you're going to blow close to $100 on a knife, why not spend a little more on something of quality?
6418fa No.325661
>>324094
>Is there any way we can find out if he ded or not?
Dude survived, though probably with some serious problems.
https://archive.is/kuLFy
>Lewis is charged with assault with intent to murder, assault with a deadly weapon and assault with intent to do great bodily harm.
>The victim was taken to Henry Ford Hospital in temporary serious condition but has since been released from hospital.
e3b1e3 No.325737
No love for the Opinel? You get an incredible convex grind for the price. Especially since they changed their steel to x90 for the carbon version and 12C27mod for the inox one.
f24012 No.325950
>>325196
Honestly, that's how I feel and I collect knives. I just can't see the point of any knife over 60 dollars or so. The $200-400 knives are good I'm sure, but are they $200-400 good?
>>325737
I love Opinel.
71450f No.326114
>>325615
Who am I to discuss taste, but Spyderco steel is not the best in production knifes by FAR.
Spyderco's as a rule always fail under hard use, they have awesome knifes to cut rope, cardboard and open stuff and cut some meat, but that is it.
The best knife I have ever used ( and I abuse all my knifes to the point that many break ) is the Adamas.
Or an Strider, but they are goddman expensive.
033c8d No.326119
>>325737
>someone recommends I get an opinel folder for daily carry in the UK
>the 3 inch on wards have safety locks and are therefore illegal because the UK would rather you chop your fingers up then have a safe knife to use for whatever
>find one on a website that's 4 inches and has no safety on it
>sick
>buy it
>turns out I read the website wrong
>very wrong
Pic related.
87dc36 No.326159
>>326119
hahahahahahahahaa
e05ecd No.326182
>>326119
Uh.. its not the size that matters.. its how you use it?
39425e No.326238
>>326182
No one asked you Sweden.
fd9eb1 No.326283
>>314946
Your plumes are stupid.
412356 No.326330
>>326182
Figures it would be Sweden that would say that.
50820f No.326691
685d4c No.326693
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My favorite knife at the moment is my folding Gerber
>pic related
Next knife I get will be a fixed blade though, and one that I can EDC
bb893f No.326761
>>326693
Nice knife, Gerber seems to have their moments with folding blades every so often, like their Applegate-Fairbairn dagger.
Any type of fixed blade in particular you're going to be going for?
f3090a No.326801
>>326761
unsure as I don't have the money at the moment so I haven't put much thought into yet
7b924b No.327654
>>324878
>BK9 is really about the knife itself, its a good design.
>Its comfortable to skin animals with, splits wood well
>stabs/penetrates animals well.
Yeah that's why I bought it. I am sick and tired of getting harassed by these fuckers after dark.
bb893f No.327711
>>327654
Shit man, I'd be careful killing or wounding any of those fuckers, they have rights too, just like those goddamn illegals.
PETA will anally fuck you harder than a nigger fucks an inept white teen if any libtard finds out.
87dc36 No.327752
>>326693
EDC is a retarded concept son, just carry a non-folding knife.
7b924b No.327871
>>327711
As one park ranger I knew said, when it comes to noxious wildlife follow the three S rule: Shoot, Shovel, and Shut up.
In this case Stab, Stuff in a ditch, and Shut up.
If I got bit by a wild animal and I managed to kill it, I wouldn't admit it. I'd just clean up, go to the hospital for my rabies shot, and say the fucker got away.
0238f2 No.328286
Not sure if this ever got answered when it was asked earlier, but what was the final verdict on the issue of punch daggers vs. regular knives? Which one is better?
bb893f No.328294
>>328286
If you're a pussy (or are a weak faggot) and want to wound n' run, punch dagger.
To kill would be to use a regular knife, preferably over 3 or so inches and fixed blade so you get through some organs.
But if you ask me, knives are just for cutting fruit ;)
3f60b5 No.328350
What does /k/ think of the Smatchet? Is it a good choice?
http://www.coldsteel.com/Product/97SMATS/Smatchet.aspx
Also, what's the maximum practical length for a knife to be used in self-defense (either against four-legged or two-legged predators)? I've seen some 10" and 12" blades; are those too long?
a82d10 No.328706
>>326761
>>326693
>>326761
Around 2008 i was deployed and a lot of people had Gerber folding knifes that you could sort of swing open with one hand.
Im wondering if anyone can point me to that knife, or answer if its a trait of them all?
I guess they looked almost exactly like the one in pic but maybe blade a bit longer.
584e97 No.328848
Those $4 Ozark trail Walmart knives are decent for the price.
They've replaced the Para-frame as my throw-away travel knife of choice.
After a week they're nicely broken in
Makes me a bit sad to toss them before my DHS mandated ball fondling session
f268b3 No.328867
>>328848
tested it on cardboard. lost it's edge after literally 1 and a half cuts. softest steel i've ever seen.
c3ade9 No.328890
>>328706
Maybe this one. Pretty dank knife.
c3c3c9 No.328926
>>328706
Can't help you with the Gerber model, but I've got one from Buck that can swing open like that. The serration's a bit annoying, but it's a quality folding knife otherwise.
a82d10 No.328948
>>328890
>>328926
thanks both of you
Both look great, might go for the Buck if it can do the swing. You get addicted to that shit.
bb893f No.328973
Anyone ever order any of those Benchmade Custom blades yet?
You can make some real neat designs with the Barrage n the Grip, I made a few with an OD Green, Black, n Silver design.
1228ac No.329271
These babies just arrived.
Total price $43. They have 440C steel. I'm still waiting for the Sanrenmu 7010.
Ganzo knives generally have a good reputation and many of them have been through tough tests online.
These particular models are obviously clones of Spydercos and the Ontario Rat.
f268b3 No.329272
>>329271
how do you like the holes vs the thumb-studs?
1228ac No.329276
>>329272
Well, I just always liked the shape of certain Spydercos which is why I purchased these. I'm really indifferent to the hole/thumb studs question. But perhaps the 727 is easier to open than the 729. I haven't tested them with gloves or anything, though.
937851 No.329289
748, Camper and 24620/088 are all knives I have now. It's isn't very /k/ but chef's my favorite, just bought it and love this little motherfucker.
f268b3 No.329306
>>329289
nice stamp steel shit chef knife. please tell me you spent less than 15 bucks on it.
937851 No.329331
>>329306
>shit chef knife
That knife is almost a local meme on guns.ru, it has ridiculously good design for 9 bucks. I wanted to buy 8 inch Victorinox but it's few times more expensive with exactly the same steel, has worse handle and is more flexible which will cause washing problems after few years of usage.
c3ade9 No.329457
>>329271
>440C
m8, why didn't you just save up? Could have had a cheap Delica for this.
f268b3 No.329513
>>329271
why did you buy 3 okay knives instead of 1 very good knife that will last you a lifetime?
9360fa No.329517
how anal is /k/ about their edge when sharpening? i've always sort of sucked at it (i just use a spyderco sharpmaker and generally stick to ceramics) and lately i've been sort of ocd about minor imperfections that remain in the edge of my Endura 4 after sharpening. i can easily shave with it and make clean cuts through fine paper but i still find myself constantly staring at it looking for little variances in the edge. is anyone else like this or am i just being an ocd fag about it?
f268b3 No.329522
33446c No.329529
Just added this to the collection this morning; a Coast BX309. From my impression, I did not expect a $10 knife to be this good. Frame lockup is excellent, decent quality steel, good shape and size, good ergonomics, the deployment is okay (not good because it's still manual, but hey), I like the clip size and placement, grips are good, an okay tang for a folding knife, nice finish. Metallurgy is good. The weight balance is perfect for leverage.
I may or may not make this my carry for a little while, since it's super comfy.
Did I do good, /k/?
Also spergy reverse grip pic because MUH CQC
bb893f No.329565
>>329529
7cr17 is an almost 440A-type steel, so I mean, 10 bucks for something found in slightly more expensive knives (I mean it's probably better than 8Cr13MoV at holding an edge).
Otherwise really reminds me of the KA-Bar Dozier, as far as looks go, but with a better looking handle.
All-in-all, good beater knife nice choice Strelok.
1228ac No.329644
>>329457
>>329513
>implying I can buy 1 very good knife for $50
The only knives that are cheap to buy here are Victorinox. Amazon doesn't ship for free. Anyway, I wanted to have a variety of knives. Plus, the idea of having "1 good knife that will last a lifetime" is ridiculous. If I buy a knife to use it, then chances are it will wear on me over time. I'm not interested in buying knifes just to look pretty in a display case.
d177ee No.329756
>>329644
Chinese market got flooded recently with a chinese steel that is literal D2 with other name on it ( but the chinese name it D2 ).
You can pay 20 bucks on a folder with D2 that beats the majority of brand knifes under 200 dollars. The only knifes better than this are ZT's and the Benchmade Adamas.
You can buy plenty of good knifes from the chinese market for under 20 dollars, full tangs for under 35. You can also buy chinese original designs ( give a look on Real Steel brand ), from 40 to 60 euros.
My point is, you can have plenty of good knives for cheap. Or one good brand knife for 50 bucks. Or save money and buy more expensive lifetime knives, it is up to your taste really. I like both types cheap and more expensive ones.
0923bb No.329778
>>329756
Source and proof?
Chinese knives ain't known for being good m8,
d177ee No.329788
>>329778
Chinese clones usually are not good you also need to pay attention how the seller describe the knife.
Source and proof on what ? D2 ? Just google it, there is a forum that a chinese knife maker explain why chinese knifes ( clones specially ) are so cheap.
D2 folder as good as a 200 knife ? Wild Boar D2 knife, read reviews or buy one. Enlan Bee 02 is a 13 dollars knivfe and it is insanely good, I have been abusing mine for near 3 years, and still is almost intact.
https://www.youtube.com/user/vininull/videos
This guy hard use the shit out of a lot of knives, he also has a google page with all the data on the knives and how good they are for hard use.
Enlan, Wild Boar, Real Steel I can testify to how good they are because I own some and when I compare to other knives it is because I own some of these more expensive ones. Indeed the chinese market has a lot of crap, but also some gold.
c3ade9 No.329841
>>329778
Kizer and Polaris make cheap shit in VG10 or D2.
For your money, a RealSteel is pretty good.
fb66db No.330506
Bump,
Anybody got any new gear this past week?
Also Canuckistani-fags, any of you heard any good places to get an electrician-oriented multi-tool?
d6a390 No.330571
>>330506
I !might buy a local knifrsmith knife this week, will post it.
Now, all the ones I import take too long on Niggerztan, our leftist government literally passed some policies to hold any shit you imprt for bs reasons. That is why hues take so long to post anything they buy. You either import or buy from importers at obscene prices.
Burger try your luck on jewtube, I remember seeing something like that.
bbe65e No.330718
>>330700
That's pretty much how you play Scouts in Silent Storm.
f8d13e No.330930
>>326114
>Strider
over-priced shit company run by a felon and a liar
>hard use
hard use is relative
the Adamas is strong because of how thick the blade is, not the integrity of the steel.
you can take shit steel, make it 1/4 inch thick and it becomes a crow-bar
4db97f No.330938
>>330930
Care to share the story ? I only browse k, so I am not versed in all the stuff on the knife world.
Indeed overpriced but it is damn good, buy a clone and abuse it.
Indeed hard use is relative, mine is next to the shit the Russian dude I posted does with the knives. The lock in the Adams's is somehow better than the other knives with the system.
I ordered a custom from a hue that lives far away might take 10-15 days though. Will post it since I will go innawoods in the 25 of this month.
b1384a No.330956
>>330718
I caught that, Anon.
ccb9fe No.331014
What's a good, cheap AR15 that can mount a standard bayonet? M&P15 is too long for a carbine and too short for a normal rifle.
ccb9fe No.331015
>>330956
It takes a long time to get a unit good enough for that though.
Point blank supressed SMG is pretty good alternative though.
edf0d8 No.331249
What does /k/ think about getting something like a Cold Steel 1917 Bowie? Would it be useful for self-defense?
http://www.coldsteel.com/Product/88CSAB/1917_FRONTIER_BOWIE.aspx
7f6472 No.331252
So /k/ went to a outdoors expo and saw they Walther was selling knives and picked up one of these for 100 Australian buckaroos.
Since I am a retard that only knows guns and saw the Walther name to it I thought it was pretty good, but seeing how /k/ is smarter than an average shitposter I want to know if I got ripped off or its going to be decent for hunting and skinning and the odd case of fighting crocodiles and knife dancing with other Australians
0393c4 No.331288
>>331252
>440C
>$100
If a straybuck is the same as an american buck, you got sodomized with sand.
7f6472 No.331292
>>331288
According to jewgle its around 77 freedom dollars.
7f6472 No.331294
fb66db No.331298
>>331288
>>331252
>roughly 76$ for ANY 440 steel
you goddamn faggot.
Most/Any 440 type steel (including 8Cr13Mov, even though it's technically 420A-type) are cheap as fuck industrial grade garbage meant to last for a small period of time, and is usually not worth much more than 30 buck knife IF that.
Especially on fixed blades, you got really niggered there.
(the closest thing to an exception is 440HC, it's somewhat above average, but it's still not amazing)
7f6472 No.331305
>>331298
Well fug, I guess it will be a decently overpriced letter opener. Got any recommendations on a decent hunting knife that isn't shit and retard proof.
fb66db No.331306
>>331305
Buck knives if you want something pretty and with a classic charm.
Schrade if you want something cheap that will last okay (though those new chinese D2 blades are overtaking them quite easily).
Becker KA-bars are among the best heavy duty (personally, I recommend the BK9).
And last but not least, Ontario/ESEE if you want no-bullshit knives that will last you a long time.
After that it's mostly gonna be smaller brands which you might not get, Strelok. If you know any custom knifemakers, then get one of those . Just grab the dude a pint afterwards if you do, he might just give it to you for a steal.
0393c4 No.331315
>>331306
Buck uses 420HC, m8. They really forgot that we made some leaps in metallurgy.
Shrade makes some good shit for the price.
The beefy Beckers seem good, but overpriced to me.
ESEE/Tops/Bark River/Fallkniven for the high-end and Ontario RATs for the mid-end.
bf9c24 No.331523
>>331298
I fucking hate 440, the most common steel on hueland. Cr Mov is way, way above 440 at everything except edge retention, it doesn't hold the razor sharpness for long but it is easy to get back to it.
440 is weak, and 420 is pure garbage for me, holy shit, I broke full tangs of 420.
>>331305
Indeed, you got fuged good, way too expensive for a 440 knife.
Out of all those brands and awesome knives they said, you should look into custom knife markers in your area.
Any 1060-1095 fixed blade is fantastic ( 1090-95 are better overall than a 1060 for example ), carbon steel that will last a long ass time and take the abuse like a sexual slave.
In the last years we have been seem a very old, cheap common steel making it back as a high end steel. The 5160, when properly heat treated is a fucking beast, will never break, but it is damn impossible to get a razor sharp edge on it ( but it can take a good edge and it will last long ). There is also chinese D2 fixed blades, they are cheap and might last few years at least.
Outside a custom in 5160, I would recommend a RAT5 or RAT7, both are amazing, and fairly cheap sometimes on Amazon.
5fcf1e No.333554
>>330938
>strider
Mick Burger was charged with armed robbery and grand theft auto, got out and started making knives. He lied about being an Army Ranger and used this marketing fraud to hype up his shit for wounded vets and his tacticool brand, and charged everyone 500 bucks for a knife that is no better than a Spyderco.
5fcf1e No.333557
>>331298
440c is good, others are shit
however, 440c used by shit companies is going to be shit steel, which means all these chinese clones people in this thread have bought; they're all complete shit.
its either Spyderco or Benchmade, all the other production companies are shit.
5fcf1e No.333558
>>331252
>if I got ripped off
you got fucked up the ass, that's about all that "knife" is good for
5fcf1e No.333560
>>331305
buy a custom knife in a good steel
go to arizonacustomknives
trust me, besides Spyderco and Benchmade, all other production companies are shit, and Spyderco and Benchmade themselves have gotten very over-priced
check out Charles May, he makes very nice knives and his d2 is very good. Dozier also does good d2.
if you just want something to bash shit with, get a machete
5fcf1e No.333563
>>331306
>Schrade
shit
>Buck knives
Buck has gone down the shitter, do not trust.
>Becker
decent knives, shit edge retention but they're tough and designed well
>Ontario
their machetes are actually solid for the price, i've cut down trees with mine and no deformation or chipping. Their knives however are shit-tier, horrible edge retention on their 5160, severely under-hardened and produces a weak edge that rolls readily.
>>331315
420hc is good if used well, but Buck is now unreliable. They run shit through the factory so as to pump the budget shit into Walmart, that's all that's left to Buck, piss-taking.
>>331315
>Tops
shit
>Bark River
over-priced shit
>Falkniven
good but over-priced
>Ontario RAT
shit
5fcf1e No.333564
>>331523
>impossible to sharpen 5160
you're talking out your ass, 5160 is one of the easiest steels to sharpen. It is low-carbon and has zero alloying carbide within the steel.
stay away from all Chinese "d2", all that Chinese crap is shit, pure fucking shit
84defe No.333750
Traded some Runescape membership for this. No idea who the manufacturer is.
cf697f No.333824
>>326119
is better than nothing.
but you need to improve from there man. maybe get a permit to carry "work tools" such a falchions?
8744da No.333825
fag who's never owned a knife before
b-be my first /k/
i'm thinking buck 110 or something spyderco
>for EDC, utility, general use
>less than $100
>straight edge, nothing serrated or design-heavy
>legal in cuckland (can't be opened with one hand or gravity)
03a8fa No.333826
>>333750
That looks an awful lot like a buck knockoff buried in dirt for a month…
cf697f No.333832
I have these 2.
the blades of both are blinder than a bat in the desert, mind you, but I am going to read the pdfs on how to sharpen them up using a lime stone.
36d2c6 No.333854
>>333825
Schrade lb7 or buck 110 are both great choices. my edc is a schrade ln7 my grandpa handed down and I love it. Also, I think it's less expensive than the buck, and slightly longer blade
0393c4 No.333909
>>333825
Spyderco Delica or Endura make a good first choice.
cf697f No.334881
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Why don't they make knifes/daggers with this kind of groove anymore?