/k/ - Weapons

>>320273

What parts do you have planned for it? What handguard? What optic?

>>320264

OP, whats the actual verdict on them HK mags? me thinks they would look sexy as fug on something like a CZ 805 Bren PS1, but would like to know if they work.

BiCuriousGeorge is TheRussian, who was banned on site.

Don't let this faggot back.

>>320310

I actually forgot all about the Russian

I thought he went back to 4/k/?

>>320264

>>320269

I see that you are using a TiN BCG.

I would like to mention that's kind of a fucking waste. Of all the things you could get nitrided, a BCG is probably the least useful and the most likely to cause problems. NiB or Meloniting is probably a lot better, honestly.

>>320336

and then he cheaped out with a Primary Arms red dot lol

>>320328

very nice, I like those minimal stocks. too much quadrailz for my taste. you're reminding me how much I want to build a .308 AR. how long is the barrel?

>TiN boltcarrier and H&K mags

For fuck's sake, man. You've spent all your money in the wrong places.

If you're gonna splurge for something on your AR it should be your trigger. A better trigger is gonna make your rifle preform better than any placebo coating ever could.

>>320305

They're magazines and they work, but they're $5 more than STANAGs with fagpul followers or discounted last-gen Magpul magazines.

If you want to spend $15 a mag I'd recommend going for the Lancer L5 AWM. You can get them in all sorts of different colors and they're a polymer mag with a steel feed lip. No way those are gonna crack in below zero.

>>320384

Getting it cerakoted later on.

I thought about just doing it oldschool with krylon, but it's a pain and then you have to take it off and put it on again.

>>320401

>Smh tbh fam

No, fuck off, tripfag.

>>320402

>It aint going to crack innacold

Still polymer and still $15 a mag. I don't know of any polymer that thin that won't crack up at -20.

>>320406

You still paid too much

>>320343

16"

>>320381

I did it before I oiled anything. And the reason I didn't backdrop it your special snowflake way was just to trigger you.

I also did that Mossberg shotgun that on an American flag that occasionally shows up.

>>320410

That's a pretty long response to my single sentence.

Who's mad here again?

>>320414

Waiting for you to make another post in this general for me to reply with obvious bait and elicit yet another autistic wall of text from you.

I'd post a picture of my new AR, but it's the pinnacle of poorfag engineering, so I'm sure you can already imagine the magpul furniture, Anderson lower, and carry handle.

I used to think AR's were boring as fuck, but now that I own one I can't stop fondling it.

>>320419

I can't. I'm too poor to come up with a reply, so I must concede defeat. This general belongs to you George, I only wish I could make threads this original and stimulating.

Godammn, why is it you can never have a conversation about the AR-15 without mondo faglord attention whores like this coming in.

I just want to appreciate the rifle for being such a simple and pleasant system.

It's like trying to be a fan of Civics or E30s and not being into STANCE or sucking cock

Go back to 4chan, you niggerfaggot. Kill yourself afterwards.

>>320264

I really think this board would be a lot better off without:

1) tripshits (OP in particular)

2) General threads

So do us all a favour and fuck off, yeah?

>>320455

>keymod aero precision handguard

Dont they only make m4e1 type?

>>320409

>And the reason I didn't backdrop it your special snowflake way was just to trigger you

>not snowflake

>puts it on a flag

That's pretty fucking fairy snowflake if you ask me, you un-American faggot.

>>320604

>puts an AR, the most American modern rifle on an American flag to underscore exactly how American it is

>someone calls it un-American

Man, you keep this up and I'll buy an American flag and start taking pictures of a nugget on it, without removing the cosmoline first.

>>320627

YOUR

>>320617

Jesus christ dude calm down, there's no need to go this far so quick into the shitpost war, are you the guy who goes all the way immediately?

>>320634

There's never a middle ground, friend, never a tempered response. When you shitpost, you can only show your enemy the Wrath of God.

>>320617

>using the flag as a houshold cloth

>not un-American

>>320638

You know one of the things that makes America great? America is a country where I could absolutely destroy the flag and post it on the internet just to piss you off.

That's one of the things that flag stands for.

>>320640

…Except you are probably a chink with a proxy.

>>320647

Why would a chink come to a freedom forum?

For that matter, why are you here?

>>320640

>>320638

Good job, keep arguing about irrelevant shite to derail the awful thread.

>>320571

It looks like it, is that a bad thing?

>>320664

>Japan

>better gun rights than yuros

I don't even.

>>320679

He's wrong. Their selection of guns is far more limited than ours, but the Japs can still own something like the BAR and Saiga. I remember browsing a Japanese gun shop website once and they had Saigas on sale.

>>320671

No but if you have regular upper it is not compatible. Aero made a upper that's stronger in barrel nut area called m4e1.

>>320640

It is your right to be an un-American piece of shit, but that doesn't stop you from being un-American shit.

>>320377

filtered

>>320264

Why do you have a stock with such shit ergonomics?

Was your grip a broomstick in a previous life?

>>320381

I'd rather grease up a flag then my woobie

>>320735

Woobie is all about sex smell and grease. This is why you never let someone borrow your woobie.

>>320730

(what was it?)

>>320738

OP wins arguments by deleting his posts apparently.

>>320703

Yeah and the wrench for that barrel nut is made out of pot metal. It'll put the barrel on, but good luck if you ever want to remove it. Also the set screws for the handguard are made out of glass. The design is good on paper, but Aero fell flat on their fucking face in practice.

>letting notorious shitposters from cuckchan post freely here

Great idea, can't wait for the rest of the /arg/ clowns to move here!

Mods here are a fucking joke

>>320681

>In Japan, civilians are not allowed to possess handguns, hunting guns without specific approval,2 military rifles, machine guns, any gunpowder charged firearm, certain air guns35 and imitation firearms63

>Compare

>Regulation of Automatic Weapon

>In Japan, private possession of fully automatic weapons is prohibited35 64 10

>Compare

>Regulation of Semiautomatic Assault Weapons

>In Japan, private possession of semi-automatic assault weapons is prohibited35 64

>Compare

>Regulation of Handguns

>In Japan, private possession of handguns (pistols and revolvers) is prohibited, with the exception of accomplished sports shooters65 35 64 10

Looks to me that they can't have semi-auto.

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/japan

Also read this through, seems pretty damn draconian:

https://www.loc.gov/law/help/firearms-control/japan.php

>>320759

Just ignore him, or if people keep responding to him just dump the thread full of loli porn. It's worked for me in the past.

>>320736

depends on the grease

>>320738

Just general tripfaggotry. 'OP' is one thing, but this ain't halfchan. I have a fudd-tier AR I could show, but I hate to encourage this shit.

I don't know that he actually did anything there.

>>320780

did you forget your trip or are you pulling an ebin ruse

>>320792

he just has different IDs

>>320797

!!wxzXvsCopg is not !!VnoXKoDQow

>>320830

You let this happen, nogun Aussie mods.

>>320703

Yeah, I've kinda been looking at other models because of that, but I know I want keymod.

>>320833

Post another picture of your fatass next

Options, filters, tripcode, add

>>320848

No one wants to reply to you smegheads. Turn off the trips and it might be a real thread.

>>320859

No, not even then. General threads are what ruined 4chan. Only make threads when you have an actual topic, not just "shitpost and circlejerk here".

>>320865

I never really looked at them, so didn't know

>>320857

>>320864

We do our best, make sure to report them so we can actually see them.

>>320866

Go on and take a look at some of the generals in halfchan /k/ if you really want to see how bad it could become.

The biggest problem is that the board stagnates when you make general threads over and over again; people run out of things to discuss and just regurgitate shit ad infinitum.

>>320869

Wait, there actually are Auscuckistanian mods in here? I thought that was just a meme.

>>320872

I think there is 1 Aus, some Americans, and some other people so irrelevant I forgot about them, probably Canadians

>>320873

Who thought it was a good idea to let the worst shitposters be mods?

>>320865

>arg

>shitpost and circlejerk here

Johnny never go in arg thread more than once or few time.

Questions related to arg get asked and answered there. Great dept discussion on ar15 was had. Great knowledge on optics and ar15 parts lies in arg.

>>320848

you know the green ones are defective and are being replaced right?

>>320875

Of course between meme and actual circlejerking

>>320884

honest question, are your brain problems diagnosed?

>>320877

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/16/new-us-army-m16-tan-magazine/

http://www.breachbangclear.com/perpetuating-bullshit-magazine-malfunctions-self-leveling-followers-and-pigeon-religion/

>>320876

Mate I know I'm a shitposter. That's why I'm not a mod.

>>320901

I am of the belief that shitposters would make the best mods, for they can take a joke and give some leniency to the shitposters who contribute to discussions occasionally. I'd much rather a shitposter than an easily triggered autist who swings the banhammer with reckless abandon at anyone who even remotely strays away from the topic of the board or thread. That being said, I am not really sure on what I think of the shitposters who completely ruin every thread they inhabit, fake German and anti-gun Aussie being prime examples.

>>320902

>>320903

it's kind of like whack a mole

>>320904

I prefer banning being for only the most egregious, or the guy who couldn't figure out that full/k/ does talk politics.

But when 3 trips show up in 1 thread, fuck em.

>>320904

>it's kind of like whack a mole

Yeah, it's also why range bans exist. Board owner should be able to issue them, since he managed to successfully ban my disposable range at one point.

>>320905

>couldn't figure out that full/k/ does talk politics.

There's a fine line though m8. If the politics talk is in its own thread that's cool and no one cares, but threads that get completely destroyed because of political autism should also be taken into consideration.

>>320910

Oh not you, I'm actually enjoying watching you get banned repeatedly.

>>320848

Real men own AR180s and not pissbaby AR15s.

>>320919

>Bicurious George

>Human

Please post another picture of your boney self so I can make fun of you some more.

>>320914

I haven't seen politics be a problem yet.

>>320922

That STG thread where the fake German got all pissy about something or other comes to mind

>>320923

Are you the faggot that couldn't even hold an FAL up?

>>320923

>>320923

>gets banned on site

>literally no one likes him on full or half chan

>craves attention so much he ban evades so he can continue to sperg out

M'skeleton

>>320924

Yep that's him. He parades his Century hackjob FAL around when battle rifles are brought up.

>>320951

>Changing your tripcode just to bypass the filter just to get filtered again

>>321093

>disgusting fat fingers

>pudgy build

>shit taste

>puts on wrinkly coats

>can't even put the fucking toilet paper on a roll like a decent human fucking being

>uses an el-cheapo disposable razor, and not very well at that

>just leaves it lying on top of the sink

>mirror is fucking dirty

>is sporting the jewfro

>has a trashbag-tier shower curtain

>generally poor decor for a bathroom

>actually bought a magpul phone case

Honestly, that kid should just an hero. Generally I'm against suicide and have talked to many guys that were feeling down, but if this dude talked to me, I'd tell him to go ahead.

>>321093

who is this semen demon

>>321090

Look, nigger, it's pretty simple: post as anon like everyone else or not at all.

>>321119

>AR180 or AR180B?

Fuck, I'm jealous. AR18 and 180 are beautiful.

I want to make a bump fire AR with high capacity magazine and a bayonet lug (because for whatever reason it scares liberals more than them pointing the muzzle of a gun at a large crowd with their finger on the trigger)

What parts should I use?

>>321145

http://www.kearms.com/slide-fire-category

>>320381

Shit tier weapon on a shit tier weapon from a shit tier country

>>321730

>Shit tier weapon

Nah, they work pretty fine as range queens; fun as long as you don't take them anywhere near sand and grit.

>from a shit tier country

Aw, come on, that was uncalled for. The US may be a shithole on our standards, but compared to the whole world they're pretty well off.

>>321730

>ass mad the post

Rifle is fine, country is better than most of you euro faggots.

>>321767

Finland's alright.

>>321770

He's an angry refugee that's mad because he didn't make it to Sweden.

>>321730

If they're so shit then why does your country use a variant as their service rifle?

>>321730

Post your gun, Norway.

>>321767

>Nah, they work pretty fine as range queens; fun as long as you don't take them anywhere near sand and grit.

About a decade an a half of war would care to disagree with you. The rifle works fine.

>>321882

>About a decade an a half of war would care to disagree with you.

I'm fairly sure a decade and a half would agree with me, love. Malfunctions, malfunctions everywhere.

>>321886

Not really, not as much as the M249, and nobody bitches about that. The M4/M16 is fine, just keep using CLP.

>>320264

how massive of a faggot am I for buying 3k of ammo, 7.62x39, 5.56 and .308 then buying two ARs and an AK for the impending gun scare in the fall.

>>321902

You're a faggot if you didn't make calls and write some letters at least. Also, make sure to update your NRA membership.

>>321909

yeah I dont really like the NRA but I got a membership there as well as gun owners of america.

>>321201

That's out of my price range.

I'm still looking on getting an upper. Don't really know where to look to get a decent deal. I'm looking for a flattop, forward assist optional, barrelled upper, preferably with a BCG installed. I'd rather have keymod than quad rails, if able. I'm kinda low on tools and don't have or have access to a vise. My lower is complete, though.

>>320264

recommend please a decent ar in 300 blackout?

for example, daniel defense i know makes some quality guns and uppers but only in 5.56. i don't know what's out there for 300 blackout.

>>322060

Uronen Precision

>>321934

I don't know why you hate the NRA. They're very good at what they do. Get both, but the NRA does some good work.

>>322078

>the NRA does some good work.

If you're extremely wealthy, own a large number of machine guns, and want to make sure none of them lose their value, then sure, the NRA does great work. If you actually want your rights restored, they won't do shit for you.

>>322129

They sure as hell helped during the Sandy Hook panic.

The NRA is changing, and while they won't take up every fight, they are useful in all the other ones, like the opposition to universal background checks, awb, and other stupid legislation.

For everything else, we have the GOA, the Heller foundation, and all sorts of other allies. The NRA is a must have, though. You an hear Democrats and RINOs tremble a bit when they talk about the NRA. It's the membership that makes the NRA strong.

tfw you've been an AK fag for the better part of 10 years and have had a recent growing desire to build a quasi-minimalist 20" AR

>>322420

My perfect AR would be a 20" AR with a collapsible stock.

Perfect barrel for maximum velocity and fragmentation while maintaining reasonable compactness.

Talk me out of fostech's ECHO trigger, fam.

sup /k/unts,

I'm just starting to build my AR, and I've started looking at lower parts kits.

Is there really any difference between them? I've been looking at one on Palmetto State Armory with a magpul grip and all the goodies I need to make my lower functioning.

Any advice?

>>322878

>Fagpul

Their shit is overpriced and useless. Don't buy into Chris Costa's hype, you can build an AR for half as much.

>>322420

Same here

Probably an optic and a light

>>322887

It's just the grip, everything else is mil-spec. It's the cheapest LPK I've found, at $70.

Plus I've been a fan of the grips and the front grip.

How much should my upper run me? I've been parting shit out, and I'm at $120 for the upper (BCM), $275 for the barrel (Daniel Defense 16''), not sure what to do for the BCG and charging handle. I saw DD has a BCG for $210, non-chromed. Any suggestions?

>>322917

try mas defense…that's where I got my upper for $240 shipped.

>>322887

there is nothing correct about this post, especially avoiding magpul on the argument of price.

>>322920

>mas defense

I know exactly why I have this boner. So far I've found a flash suppressor that is similar to a noveske one that I really like.

Imma peruse the shit out of this

Quick followup for anyone, all the barrels I see there are for .223 wylde.

Could I run 5.56 NATO through that?

>>322927

depends on brand, best bet is to email and ask.

Disregard that, I suck cocks

>>322927

wyld is a half way chambering to run 5.56 and 223 both well, yes.

>>322887

>overpriced

Really?

Magpul pmags go for about $12

All other moe or moe plus grips and guards are generally the same price as mil spec (with the added benefit of not having tiny hand bitch grips if you are a big guy or just have man hands) and the guards have the ability to easily mount stuff with small rail sections.

If your gripe is thier fancy space stocks well no shit they're expensive everyone else is in the business of selling tacticool shit to rake in cash from mall ninjas or people who just want some interesting shit, you'd have to be a retard to not want easy money.

Magpul is popular because they make affordable plastic crap that works, I'm not saying magpul is the end all be all but they are where they're at because of affordability and marketing ,chris costas art of the dynamic sealing wounds with tampons and kungfu grips on dildos series isn't my thing but chris can teach very well and if it takes ninja shit to educate the retard mall cop masses on how not to fucking ND when showing off then so be it.

>>322917

With charging handles BCM makes the gunfighter which has some nice features like easier to pull back as a normal charging handle as opposed to the regular two finger T shape pull and a generally more durable feel and build, not saying milspec just snaps off but hey some people like thick, the cost goes for about 60 (this is on the expensive end I've seen them on sale for about 40 to 50) of course if you are going RIFLE IS FINE a regular milspec T handle goes fot about sub 20.

For the bolt carrier group and bolt the important shit is a carpenter bolt this is a type of heat treatment that hardens the outside while making the inside flexible meaning it is less prone to breakage as opposed to through hardened which is brittler, no carpenter is not fancy snake oil this is milspec there is absolutely no reason to cheap out and go below the already fairly low standard, there is a 9 thousand some shit number bolt and from what I understand is better than the carpenter bolt in durability.

The other important thing about bolts is the little tube part on the carrier the gas key, other than staying away from mim (which is injected metal identifiable by injection marks like the dot on the bottom of a plastic bottle or "cast lines") is the staking, basically the key is held onto the carrier by screws and to keep them from unscrewing them selves the manfacturer takes a punch and creates two indents on each screw that move metal to touch the head of the screw, crap staking looks of centet or wont even touch the head.

Other than that there are snake oil bolts but just keep these few things in mind to decide your purchase.

Once all this is done now you have to chose a handguard thats a whole new pot of stirred shit but basically choose what you might need quad rails tend to be heavy but hey all that space (that you might not ever use ) drop in guards are usually the cheapest and most light but apparently cause less accuracy because it's not free float.

Sorry I cant put a solid price, man

>>322954

Shit man, thanks for the input. I'm going for a stealthy rifle-is-fine gun, but with great internals. As far as snake-oil bolts go, I have in my cart a nickel-boron bolt; would that fall into the category of snake-oil?

I've pretty much found everything I want on the masdefense website, but all their fucking uppers are out of stock. Any recommendations for a stripped upper, or is an upper is an upper is an upper?

>>322957

nah, nickle boron is legit, it gets a lot of industrial use. it's a treatment not a coating, impregnated a ways in to the metal, lowers friction and it'll out last the rifle.

>>322887

Why all the hate for customization. Of course you can build a mil-spec AR15 for $500, but some people like to splurg. Hating someone because they use a specific manufactures products is like being mad at someone because they can afford a better car than you.

Me personally? I'd start out with just STANAG, but as time went on and I saved the bones, I'd get some the previous generation Magpul mags. In the end, they'll both work and I'll have plenty of mags.

Same goes for the map loops. Getting butthurt because someone bug Magpul, instead of using 550 cord is bringing yourself to a level of butthurt that's retarded. So some fucker wants to spend money, let 'em.

>>322964

*mag loops

>>322957

Im the wall of text guy (just incase my id changes)

>>322963

Plus 1 on that nib I have one it works and I love it

As for uppers most people will go for complete uppers I bring this up especially because it seems you want a rifle is fine thing well first you will need to hammer pins in for the fixed front sight base I'm not totally sure on how it's put together (are the holes pre drilled? What tools do I need? Is this gun smithing shit? Why is my wang hard?) So i just said fuckit and bought a completed one off palmetto state (a2 handguards and big ass triangle on the front) but if you're willing to get shit done beyond what I was able to do then yeah a good stripped upper reciever is a place to start and my glorious knowledg of autistic gun shit leads me declare that

it's all the same shit

Unless its bcm then you can wave your dick at your anonymous strelok friends here abd call them poor fags because their lump of cut aluminium lacks a painted on BCM

No seriously they are really the same shit if you look closely at the upper just behind the case deflector towards the charging handle is a little mark that is a forge mark all these stripped uppers come from different forge houses and everyone has used them all atleast once (probably)

So yeah same shit

>>322981

Okay, I found a noveske stripped upper for a decent price, so I'm gonna bite the bullet and take that home with me. That cross gives me a boner.

Thanks for the help, I really appreciate it. Once I get all my parts in and together, I'll show you guys what sort of monstrosity I have made.

I really want to like the AR, but there's one thing that bothers me, namely, the lack of a reciprocating charging handle.

Let me share a little anecdote.

I got to shoot a buddy's AR once. We were shooting the cheapest steel cased ammo available, so it jammed frequently. I can't remember the exact nature of the malfunction, but the round would fail to eject and the bolt would be stuck slightly out of battery.

I must stress that this was the fault of the ammunition and not the firearm.

Regardless, the process of clearing the jam usually went as follows. Drop the mag, pull on the charging handle a couple of times. When that didn't work, hold the charging handle back and 'mortar' the gun. When that didn't work, stick a cleaning rod down the barrel and use a rubber mallet to force the bolt back and the cartridge out.

I don't want to condemn the design on the basis of one bad experience, but it seems to me that if something like this were to happen in a critical situation, you'd be screwed.

Anyone care to assuage my concerns?

>>322986

This anchor heavy aluminium on a palmetto state armory upper

>>322989

Did you smash the foward assist or did it even come with one

also steel case ammo is good and works good the only problem is using it before brass cased because steel wont create a good gas seal a make a bit of carbon build up but brass expands and the built stuff becomes a lock like when firing 38spcl out of a 357 and then you create the ring of fire in the cylinder (you know like liquor before beer you're in the clear beer before liquor you've never been sicker) other than that it seems like it wasnt cleaned well just smash that shit with brushes and dental picks

>>322989

If you're mortaring it, it's usually a bolt override.

These are VERY rare malfunctions, but yes, they are a bitch to clear.

Basically, a cartidge gets stuck between the charging handle and the bolt, fucking up basically everything all at once.

It's a monster pain in the ass to clear, but the easier way to do it is basically to reach into the ejection port, pry the bolt open with something, and yank the fucking thing out, IMO.

YMMV.

Bolt over-rides are kind of like squibs, in terms of how fucked you are. They just happen to be field serviceable fuckups.

>>322878

I'd recommend getting a build kit without the FCG and getting palmetto's polished FCG if its in stock. Has a nice light, smooth pull compared to the standard mil spec for pretty much the same price.

Question folks,

drilling out my trigger pocket and bit walked on me, is this lower trash?

>>323216

>>323214

Not trash, but slightly ugly.

>>322404

Do you already have a barrel?

Because either way, take this and enjoy.

http://shop.tacticalshit.com/mid-length-xlp-piston-kit-bundle

And no, I don't think so.

>>323224

Nice.

I have an 80% that just needs… help. A LOT of help.

Probably gonna go bug a guy I know with a milling machine and see if he can help me out later today.

>>323237

No barrel yet, only lower and lpk so far, so a kit like that would be ideal, however I want a rifle barrel. thanks for the link though.

Any opinions on the AR-57? Asking mostly out of morbid curiosity.

>>323263

>paying brass 5.56 prices for a less effective centerfire .22 cal while still shooting it out of an AR

>>323245

Ah, gotcha.

Good luck, eh?

>>323263

It's interesting only because you can get a 5.7 SBR without the PITA that is getting a cut PS90 barrel, or having a PS90 barrel cut.

Other than that, the owners of this company are the sort of chuckle fucks who made it so the upper can't run full auto without a special buffer, and will only sell that buffer to "law enforcement and military officials, or people willing to show a tax stamp".

I know why they're doing that, but seriously, fuck them.

>>323263

Some dumbass on plebbit got one, he said it was shit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/45fk1h/

It didn't even headspace properly

https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/46mbt7/

>>322640

ARVN was actually issued M16 and modern Vietnamese marines actually copycat M4/CAR.

>>323423

I like that color scheme. What parts are on it?

>>323466

https://danieldefense.com/firearms/daniel-defense-m4-carbine-v11-tornado.html

all stock with an aimpoint PRO on it

>>323476

wrong rifle link.

https://danieldefense.com/firearms/daniel-defense-m4-carbine-v11-slw-1601.html this is the correct one

>>323468

man thats a nice looking gun, have you found any good keymod foregrips?

>>323423

That's exactly what I was thinking of buying, except in black colour. Only that they're fucking 2k€ in here, so I'll look at the prices of some other 5.56 rifles like SG551 before buying.

>>323540

try jewing with the retailer, i know retailers pay roughly 80% msrp for daniels, and if you figure out tariffs you have some negotiating room

>>323545

Nobody ever haggles around these parts, ever. And while it could be possible to import from some other retailer (they're the only ones selling DD here) it's probably not worth the shipping costs and extra hassle, +VAT if importing from outside EU.

>>323549

ah, that's rough. best of luck in your hunt for a raifu.

>>323552

I already have my raifu, Sako. But she needs a friend if you know what I mean.

Here's the place that's selling the DD rifles by the way. You can see how they jew out in more or less everything they sell.

http://viranomainen.fi/Daniel+Defense?_tr=9473

There's the +22% VAT and I live in an expensive country, but still. Fucking jews.

>>323554

shlomo is riding high on that shit, if your dealing with 22% tariffs though i doubt your going to find anything of quality made in america for under 1800 euros

>>323558

Which is why I'm looking at other rifles too.

>>320869

They'll be back in 90 days.

>>323468

Why would you use those delta ring configs? Free-float is better.

>>323570

Or they post on a VPN.

This isn't rocket science. I'm spamming /pol/ the same way because they gave me a 4 week ban for something I didn't do.

>>323495

I don't know how to anodize the rest, and there is no one within 1 hour of me in any direction that does it, so I was planning on leaving it that way

If I want a 20" AR to shoot mostly cheap range/plinking ammo, but also the heavier match ammo, what's the optimal twist rate?

>>324525

1:8

>>324525

http://www.gmriflebarrel.com/gm-m16-m16a2-5-56mm-20-barrel-with-extension-1-8-twist/

>>324467

I don't think IWI made a factory there. I believe they sold them a license to manufacture the rifles locally. The same way Đuro Đaković has a license to build Patria AMV APCs.

>>324591

>>324590

Thanks and I didn't see that one, I had the 20" stainless Wylde barrel bookmarked.

>>325080

oh I'd go with that if you have the money for it.

>>325080

this one, right? that's a sweet barrel http://www.gmriflebarrel.com/gm-m20-20-223-wylde-chamber/

darn I missed it they had a sale on the finned barrels

>>325089

fuckn lovely

>AR15

Just get an AK.

>>325135

The owner of .300niggersout rifle.

>>325135

Because it means my 110gr supersonic loads are zeroed for both 25m and 200m with a peak hold under of about 8cm at 100m

>>325189

>>325135

You're supposed to confirm your zero at the correct range, though.

Nice data mining thread faggots!

>>325279

>not having a shiny AR15 to show off to the other sterlocks

hows it feel anon?

*:^)*

>>325189

The point of aim and point of impact on that target aren't the same, that's a tool used to get an initial zero so that your shots are at least on the paper when you go to do your final zero at your intended range (300m for this target).

As >>325190 said, you're still supposed to shoot at the range you're intending to zero your scope at for final adjustment.

What's a good, decently cheap, folding stock for an AR15?

What's the best source for a bayonet?

Feinstein doesn't want me to have one, so I should get one.

Guys, what magazines do I order?

What's good, what's bad? I found some C-products Defense magazines for $9/mag, and some magpul ones starting at $11/mag.

I have no clue what I'm doing.

I'd like to build my own ar and have a look in mind, but no clue as to who makes the parts I'd want. Probably gonna postpone my bolt rifle project and get an ar before shillary gets in.

I'd like a skeleton stock, one of the rounded handguards like >>320269 , a barrel thats not a toothpick, and thats about all I know of ar's

For lower and upper im clueless. As for the rest I have a hardon for fde and gray colored furniture.

>>326063

Cheap isn't going to happen if you're still running gas impingement.

>>326304

Whatever ones you want duder. I just have a bunch of pmags for my AR, I've never had any feed issues with them.

>>326317

What do you mean by skeleton stock? Like the Magpul CTR? Also what's a rounded handguard? One that's not covered in Picatinny rails? Look for M-Lok or Keymod handguards in that case.

And for what purpose do you want a heavy barrel? I've got the Larue Predaturd on mine and am completely happy with that lightweight profile. It all depends on what the rifle will be used for, aside from a few hog hunts mine's just a range queen.

Lowers are pretty much all the same, you just need to decide what logo you hate the least. Uppers can be a little different, if you don't want the hassle of timing your barrel nut for your gas tube take a look at Aero's enhanced uppers. The wrench to put on that proprietary barrel nut is a fucking pot metal joke though, so don't expect to be able to remove the barrel you install.

>>326411

I ordered a couple of gen 2 pmags, can't wait to test this build. Everything went together very well, hoping that my 80 lower will do fine.

Will post results.

>>326423

I've wanted to do an 80% AR for a little bit, I've got a drill press and don't mind buying the jig and bits for it. What did you end up going with for your upper parts and barrel?

>>326425

I've got a full parts list >>323201

Went with a 16'' .223 Wylde barrel, which supports .223 and 5.56 NATO, but claims better accuracy. Went with 1/7 twist for dem higher grains. Free float quad on a Noveske gen 1 upper and a NiB BCG.

>>326411

Skeleton as in the aluminum tube design, I assume any one would do because that seems like a hard design to fuck up.

I don't care for the rails look, I'll look into some keymod stuff to see if I like one. Barrel wise it's just me being autistic I guess, I've only really been around bolt actions at this point.

I have no clue what all is even needed besides these parts, I'm assuming an ordinary milspec trigger/btc/whatnot will all be good to start out.

All the stuff I listed isn't really priority, if I could get a decent gun that shoots for around $800, I'll grab stuff here and there in the future.

I just don't want to build a hokey piece of shit that won't hold up.

>>326483

Lasers are useless unless you are operating at night or telling a fugitive to surrender.

What are your optics on top?

>>326526

Dad's is an aim sport 4x32 3 color optic, bore sighted to 100m

The red dots are aim sports with no magnification. Bore sighted for 100m as well.

My dad and I agree that lasers are good for violence prevention and for night time home defense. Nothing quite intimidates like the rack of an AR and a green laser in the eyes.

>>326541

>intimidation

Agreed. It's a clear show of target designation (target knows you have him in your sights, literally), force (scary laser sights on scary black salt rifles), and intent. It will create a sudden show of dominance and probably cause your average burglar to freeze. Especially if you, ya know, yell "freeze"

>>326483

>cheapo ARs

>cheapo optics

Ehhh.

>>326541

>>326559

pretty sure some states have weird laws where the intruder can sue you for eye damage. better just to put 'em down.

>>326597

This is a myth. You can't sue someone while engaged in illegal activity. You can sue if, for example, they hold you down at a McDonalds after you tried to rob them and then proceed to pour hot grease on you.

>>326898

>pic

Range 10 metres? That's a decent shot pattern, but I'm wondering where the wad went.

>>326902

But I'm shooting an AR though. It doesn't look like a shotgun burst anyways. range was 25 yards.

>>326906

>It doesn't look like a shotgun burst anyways.

Riiiight.

>>326931

nigger count the holes also I posted my new funs >>326483

Lrn2fun faggot. Even a fun newfags knows this.

>>326899

>Finland bringing the bantz

not bad m8, you mongoloids are on the verge of becoming honorary members of ANZSC (Australian and New Zealand Shitposting Corps)

>>326317

>I'd like to build my own ar and have a look in mind, but no clue as to who makes the parts I'd want

>For lower and upper im clueless.

For my gun I used an Anderson Arms lower which is the cheapest 7075 lower available, only issue with them is the trigger guard holes are slightly undersized (just be careful when you assemble it, they aren't too tight). All other lowers you end up paying more for stupid shit like spiderpenis logo.

Upper is Aero Precision.

>>326949

Hes trolling you over your groups bro

>>327016

Brownell's just came out with A1 uppers and lowers if you want to go that far into detail, I just ordered a 20" barrel, A2 upper and the rest of the junk I need for my next AR from Del-Ton. I didn't really look into Del-Ton's quality before I ordered, but I guess I'm going to find out.

And you don't need a machine shop to put together an AR, just a few wrenches and punches.

>>327016

https://www.fnamerica.com/products/carbines/fn-15-series/fn15-rifle/

You're welcome.

>>327024

I have a local gun store that seems to deal in AR-15 as a specialty, maybe I will hit them up for advice.

>>327016

http://www.ar15.com/forums/f_3/123_.html

there are many retro builds, can't be that uncommon.

>>327029

thicker profile barrel, I'd prefer this one you linked if he's not going for a retro build

>>327036

The fuck you talking about? The barrel is just fine. I should know, I carried one for over a year in Iraq. It looks just fine to me.

>>327046

why are you so insulted that I pointed out it's a different barrel profile? I only mentioned it because I wasn't sure if he's doing a retro build or not. and I said I'd choose the one you linked because it's a better barrel, CHF.

Is .300 blk a meme round, or an actually decent idea that's not been overhyped?

>>327472

It's 7.62x39 reinvented.

>>327472

it's almost pointless unless you're using it out of a short barrel since it uses pistol powder, or using heavy bullets with a suppressor

300 blk guns with long barrels make me cringe

>>327489

Setup?

>>327505

muh cum

>>327505

Nice, how many rounds is that paper?

I just shot my build and man is it a tack driver

>>327524

That's three rounds. The rest were 1/2" or under. My groups from standing aren't anything to brag about though, those range anywhere between 1-4" at 50 yards. I think a sling will help though, I always rely on the one on my .22 when I'm squirrel hunting.

>>327529

Sweet, nice group. I thought it may have been 5 with the 2 going through the original holes.

How much did your setup cost you?

Also, slings are a necessity. I never have a rifle without one.

>>327529

I just added it up, the rifle sans optics came out to just a few bucks over $1,000. I bought all my parts over the course of two months during all of the black Friday/Christmas sales, so full price would have been quite a bit more.

>>327214

The idea is muzzle break + some way to redirect the blast again, to avoid annoying the shit out of people at the range. Or making people deaf if you shoot indoors.

It's basically retarded. Run a brake and deal with it, or run a fucking flash hider. AR15's don't recoil that much in the first place.

>>327487

What exactly does higher muzzle velocity at lower barrel lengths do for a .30 caliber bullet shot with pistol powder?

If I built one, I'd want to fill the void the AS VAL leaves in my heart for a supressed carbine capable of accurate ballistics up to 300 meters or more if necessary. I'm just wondering at the max effective range .300 blk has, and if I'd be able to make decently long range shots in a 10" barrel suppressed with sub/supersonic rounds.

For suppressed, does it matter if the round is supersonic? Will it just be louder if it is supersonic versus sub?

>>327597

>What exactly does higher muzzle velocity at lower barrel lengths do for a .30 caliber bullet shot with pistol powder?

Accuracy wise? nothing.

>I'm just wondering at the max effective range .300 blk has, and if I'd be able to make decently long range shots in a 10" barrel suppressed with sub/supersonic rounds.

Both the subs and supers I shoot are stable out to well beyond that.

>For suppressed, does it matter if the round is supersonic?

No.

>Will it just be louder if it is supersonic versus sub?

You will still hear the sonic boom since that is a result of the bullet traveling faster than the speed of sound, all the suppressor takes away is the muzzle blast noise.

Embed demonstrates the sub/super difference, you need to listen carefully for the sonic boom on the supers because the microphone doesn't properly capture it.

https://blitzkriegtactical.com/?view=store&prodID=328

I got that and I'm looking to make a mil spec rifle. any suggestions on parts?

>>327612

off topic but how hard is it finding places to hunt in NZ?

>>333788

Like a 10 minute drive unless you live in Auckland or Welly (not parts of NZ full of gooks and faggots).

>>333793

What are the rules regarding hunting on private property? Do you just need permission from the owner?

>>333806

Yeah unless you want to do some poaching. My mate does that gets some pigs and deer on Maori land that he's not supposed to be on.

>>333788

>off topic but how hard is it finding places to hunt in NZ?

What this guy said >>333793 but its more like 20 min for most places.

I live in Hamilton and there are 3 national parks about 20min away which I am allowed to hunt on, if you extend it to 40min then that number goes up to like a dozen. Permits are free for goats/pig/deer/etc and can be done online, ducks and waterfowl (during the season) and small game like rabbits there is licensing fees required, most districts wont give out small game licenses. No NV or spotlights and no hunting after after sunset or before sunrise, there are no caliber restrictions as far as I am aware.

>>333806

>What are the rules regarding hunting on private property?

>Do you just need permission from the owner?

If you have permission then anything goes.

Is the M&P15 still the go-to budget AR or has it been surpassed? What's the cheapest place to get one?

>>333876

>a few hundred in tools

Lol what?

>>333885

Roll Pin Punches

Pin starters

Vice blocks

Vice

Torque wrench

Castle nut wrench

Barrel wrench

Headspace gauge

Brass hammer

Plus some other stuff I can't remember right now.

>>333886

>Castle nut wrench and Barrel wrench

….wat.

>>333886

All those things are nice to have but not completely necessary. I built 2 AR's with just a punch and rubber mallet and just improvised everything else.

>>333934

All I needed was a rock and an allen wrench

>>333934

How did you attach the barrel and buffer tube to proper tightness?

>>320269

Haha oh yes

delicious 249f posting

I recently acquired one for my AR and AK alike

>>320892

look there is army technical bulletin out about the replacing the green followers. IDK and did not do shit about it because I PCSed but someone thinks there fucked up, that probably know more then some assclown on the internet.

>>333870

what is with the weird color scheme?

>>333886

That's like 100 max since pin starters aren't necessary, castle and barrel wrench can be the same tool, the vice doesn't have to be heavy duty at all considering what you're doing with it, and torque wrenches aren't expensive.

>>334334

well, when i first built the rifle painted it, then about a year later i put a free float rail on it.

>>334232

Then replace them. If you don't trust the black or green, toss em' for tan ones.

Ever consider the it might a moral move? Keep the chatter about being killed by bad mag followers down?

The assclowns in question are combat arms veterans.

>>334232

>>334636

the tan followers are anti-tilt, they have legs running down the sides like the Magpul followers. also prevents mag overloading damaging the feed lips. the army replacing them is perfectly sensible.

the green ones will work fine up until they're worn, then they'll get all dippy bird and give feeding problems. don't worry about it.

Is it bad that I think AR-15's are ugly burgerland guns that belong in the hands of people confined to motorized scooters? I think I'll probably have to get one sometime just to have one, because of all the parts available for them and everything, but damn they just don't grab me at all.

If I could I'd just stick with the AK, but the ammo shortage is making me think twice.

>>334668

I hate to sound like a jingoist but there's something about the industrial, sinister-looking AR-15 that means I always picture it in the hands of 'the elite', faggots wearing sunglasses and tanned baseball caps and mechanix gloves and hunting other people.

When I think of the AK I just imagine it in the hands of an African.

>>334668

I mean if you're ok that you've internalized Comedy Central tier jewish noguns propaganda as reality, sure.

>>334758

>preferring a different platform to the amerilard burgergun is internalizing liberal anti-gun ideology

wew lad

>>334775

>I mean if you're ok that you've internalized Comedy Central tier jewish noguns propaganda as reality, sure.

Neither is this ;^)

>>334777

> I mean if you're ok that you've internalized Comedy Central tier jewish noguns propaganda as reality, sure.

goes to

> Is it bad that I think AR-15's are ugly burgerland guns that belong in the hands of people confined to motorized scooters?

not

>preferring a different platform to the amerilard burgergun is internalizing liberal anti-gun ideology

is that too difficult? maybe the Mattel rifle is too hard and you should stick to the Daisy