/k/ - Weapons

If they made an innawoods mobile app I would be soooo happy. Or if they made an innawoods turn based jagged alliance style game.

Would somebody post bogroll already?!

>>326956

>Desert Eagle

Kill yourself, tripfag. Get your reddit buddies to do it too, I'm tired of seeing your ilk around.

>>326981

Cityfag here, but I can only assume that quite a lot of that deer is going to go to waste without salt or refrigeration.

>>326947

Drop the trip, you twat.

>all these fags with little to no water

I hope you live in a place where there is plenty of freshwater and that freshwater is all clean as the bottled shit, otherwise you are gonna die

>>327080

>This fag not knowing how to purify water in a field expedient manner

>This fag not having a water bottle with an interchangeable carbon filter

>This fag thinking bottled water will be around and not knowing it's just treated municipal water aka freshwater.

>This fag not knowing his areas water table

>This fag being a fag

>>327067

>Is no longer tripfag

>>327154

>still entered email address

>>327165

Done

>>327154

Then you're less of a twat.

>>327253

His mission? Free the Europeans from themselves and the Muslim menace, just like the good old days.

Wont let me embed his theme > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knLCUYVw5K4

>>326860

>dat edge

Going to go shoot up a building anon?

whatever happened to this game

it seems incomplete

>>327369

No willy pete? How will you frag officers now?

>>327582

No iodine for water. Better pray for a freshwater stream. You might be able to boil it in that pot, but how long is that fluid going to last? Flint & steel is probably a better idea than a lighter but keep the fluid.

Hunting wouldn't be too hard but you'll need to be wary of damage to the bolts, it does happen. Maybe kill some birds and harvest the feathers so that if worse comes to worse you can maybe make your own. personally, i'd prefer a both over a crossbow since making ammo for it would be easier. Crossbow bolts are pretty much impossible to make out of shit you'd find just innawoods.

You could probably use an extra set of clothes.

Food and water are your primary concerns with this, really, along with a consistent way to start a fire. Particularly one that works if it ever gets windy. Other that i don't see too many issues if this is just for innawoods, but a proper canteen might be a good idea. Water bottles are nice and all but always have potential for damage where a metal canteen will last a bit longer.

>>327609

Looks good to me, though a makarov may not be enough for a bear, it's a good backup. Bow'd probably piss him off if you miss but a few shots out of the makarov will have him hopefully down.

Assuming no SHTF situation and you were just trying to innawoods as long as possible, i could see maybe a few months as long as you play it smart and safe. First aid might be wise to add though, always observe murphy's law. Eventually you'll need something out of a kit, even if it's just a simple band-aid. Shit gets dirty and infected.

9/10 would innawoods with

>>327614

Thanks, Strelok. If it were a SHTF scenario, I'd be carrying a proper rifle, no doubt. When you say a Makarov may not be enough, do you mean you'd recommend a higher caliber, or something with more mag capacity?

>>327622

Either/or. 9x18 is nice but i'd personally prefer a little more punch personally, but more boolet would work just as well.

WHY ARE YOU OF NOT BE USE OBREZ AS SIDE ARM KOMERADE

>>327635

forgot to mention, the mosin is a carbine

shame there's no option for that

>>327632

Two canteens?

Heavy, huge ass jug of water, works i guess.

Purifying water, you're good.

Decent first aid options.

Fair neough amount of ammo, i guess.

Matches and backup F&S, good.

Batteries for what? Nothing you have should need them.

Tea is okay, everything else looks good really.

You still wouldn't live very long beyond the amount of time you could make your ammo last, unless you have lots of experience trapping.

You need something to make food in, by the way. No pots or anything. What're you going to boil water in when you run out of iodine?

>>327635

You won't live very long.

You have no consistent way to get anything.

Atleast you've got heavy clothes for when it gets warm.

Why two knives, anyways?

>>327639

Messkits generally come with a metal "pot" I believe. Or something similar, worst case scenario, I use the steel pot helm to cook and boil water in.

Batteries are for flashlight.

Food argument, I agree. Rice goes a pretty long way, however.

It's just supposed to last me long enough to get to the Homestead down South. About 200 miles away, btw.

>>327640

>no consistent way to get anything

that's why i had an inb4 dumbass plan

it relies on there being stuff around to pick up, for example in a big city or something

>two knives

one is a folder in the pocket, one is in a sheath on the belt

kind of silly, i wasn't really thinking about it at the time. it's sort of an adaptation of what i take when i go out (innawoods/onnafarm). small hatchet on the belt for heavy work, folder in the pocket for small work

>>327645

Relying on stuff to pick up that other people will be trying to get just as much as you?

>>327643

That flashlight is a hand-crank.

>>327652

Only one extra mag?

No helmet?

No body armor at all?

No canteen?

3/10 would not trust with my life

>>327656

100/10 let's go cheeki some breeki

>>327660

>skull bandanna

i want to fault you just for that but what you have there is pretty decent

also it may be a good idea to put shit like wallet and keys, phone too if there's no reception, into your bag instead of your pockets just so there's less chance of losing them, plus easier movement.

>>327661

>skull bandanna

I think I have a valid reason for that. If I drop the AR I look like any hiker/camper. All my gear is civilian. My ammo is in a plain satchel not a LBV. This is by design.

However in SHTF if I need to rob someone or whatever the combo of the AR and skull mask will be enough to intimidate most normies (and hide my identity) much more so than not having it in the same way that a guy with full camo, LBV and helmet is more intimidating than just some dude waiving an AR.

>>327677

honestly i would put a ton of books, alcohol, small projects, etc in, but there's no room on the innawoods program

someone needs to make a better loadout program

>>327677

You can only play Solitaire so many times.

Besides, are you incapable of keeping busy? I don't know about you, but if I'm in a tactically precarious situation, playing cards is the least of my concerns. If I'm in a position where I can reduce my situational awareness enough to play cards…I'm going to be doing far more important tasks.

>>327655

I made for a paratrooper idea

website doesn't work, and the swf someone gave me doesn't work. What am I doing wrong?

>>327664

> if I need to rob someone

you're gonna have a bad time

>>327660

>duct tape

this guy knows.

What're the batteries for?

No pots and pans, + little food and water that you'll be using quickly at any relatively high altitudes

Water isn't the easiest to find up in the mountains + your caloric intake will be higher.

Otherwise it seems pretty alright, i guess. 8.5/10 wouldn't shoot in the face to take gear

>>327664

Your AR has a grip and sight, you're now shot for having a relatively fancy weapon.

You're not intimidating anyone in SHTF, they're going to shoot your ass back.

>>327677

There were a few guitars and cards.

>>327684

Then especially

>NO FUCKING HELMET

>NO BODY ARMOR?

>NO CANTEEN?

One extra mag is fine. Ish. But you're not going to fucking drop with a M249 anyways. Too large and unweildly.

>>327680

Unless if you're a cartoonishly hardened badass with infinite energy, you will need some time to relax, both physically and mentally. If you're constantly in danger or constantly working, you will be exhausted and stressed to your breaking point in no time.

>>327690

LOW ENERGY

>>327690

>not wanting to operate to your breaking point

>not wanting to stress yourself into a whole new state on mind

>not wanting to achieve a heightened state of operating

>not wanting to become a god of zone, a master of the wastes

you don't belong here buddy

>>327697

you did this to yourself, strelok.

>>327700

nice digits

Maybe it's the fact it was the military.

Branch and div?

>>327703

Yeah, lack of freedom and knowing you're potentially, I did nothing fighting for people you despise does that.

I'm young enough to be here but got issued a flakjacket, so as you can imagine it was nothing important

>>327716

not enough bolts

>>327719

not enough anything strelok. i need at least two more guitars.

i reiterate: someone needs to make a better loadout program

>>326856

There is a mobile app if you're a Ballsakintosh user.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/innawoods/id908449095

>>326846

>glock

>g3

There's no hope for that in Jolly ol' England, friend.

>>327690

>Unless if you're a cartoonishly hardened badass with infinite energy, you will need some time to relax, both physically and mentally.

>relax

Cartoons and video game characters have nothing to do with it. There is no "relaxing". Unless you have a safe area to egress to, you're going to have to be running at full throttle 24/7.

Sure, pile your kit with books and other shit, you're just eating up room that could better go to mission critical materiel. Besides, in an event where you're going to be humping around enough to carry kit and have to remain low key…there'll be enough leisure related paraphernalia just lying around to be picked up. Unless a book or trinket has sentimental value…it's just a waste of space in your kit.

IF, IF you can establish a safe semi-permanent location to operate out of with friendlies, then you should consider gathering or making leisure activities. Otherwise, you're deliberately placing yourself into a reduced state of readiness, that will get you killed.

Operating alone means you have to be vigilant 24/7, operating with another means you only have to be half as vigilant, because they can keep watch while you sleep, eat, shit/piss, ect… A comrade or comrades also provide mental stimulation that a deck of cards or a book never could.

Of course, operating with another person also means you have increased security, increased manpower, ect…

>If you're constantly in danger or constantly working, you will be exhausted and stressed to your breaking point in no time.

Then you'd best harden the fuck up. Mental resolve is why you should be out pushing your "breaking point", not hand wringing about dragging along playing cards to act as some ad-hoc stress relief.

Not everyone is built to face continuous stress…it's why "combat fatigue" continues to be the number one problem in non-combat losses. Playing cards isn't going to keep you from snapping your shit. Companionship, comrades, rationale, and keeping your shit wired tight is what keeps you together and functional.

>>327780

so basically this >>327696

>>327780

depends on scenario. I always keep a book on me, and once I got wet in the mountains in winter and didn't get to shelter and couldn't get anything built in time. I just had a hole in the snow under a tree. I got out of frozen clothes and into my bag and froze my ass off, every so often doing another task to get ready. In between I read the Moon is a Harsh Mistress. I probably read 20 pages in 7 or 8 hours, but it kept me from falling asleep until I knew I was okay and had everything else done or prepared. Otherwise I don't know what mental stimulation I would have had to keep focused enough to not drift off.

>running at full throttle 24/7

>Operating alone means you have to be vigilant 24/7, operating with another means you only have to be half as vigilant

Vigilance is a discipline, it get's better with practice. But you don't get to do less with someone else there. If your buddy doesn't have it, you just made yourself much more vulnerable. And the more people you have, the worse it gets.

I'm not saying be a loner, but it's not that way for everyone. btw, what's rationale?

>>327801

>Moon is a Harsh Mistress

There's no such thing as a free lunch. Patrician taste, fellow Strelok.

>>326860

>Two glocknades

for what purpose?

>No extra mags for your rifle

>Ebin solid black armor and trenchcoat

>Cigarettes

Is this bait?

>>327801

>depends on scenario.

Which is why I said "tactically precarious" in my first post. If you're just hiking or hunting, then your needs and necessary equipment change.

>I always keep a book on me, and once I got wet in the mountains in winter and didn't get to shelter and couldn't get anything built in time. I just had a hole in the snow under a tree. I got out of frozen clothes and into my bag and froze my ass off, every so often doing another task to get ready. In between I read the Moon is a Harsh Mistress. I probably read 20 pages in 7 or 8 hours, but it kept me from falling asleep until I knew I was okay and had everything else done or prepared. Otherwise I don't know what mental stimulation I would have had to keep focused enough to not drift off.

>>running at full throttle 24/7

>>Operating alone means you have to be vigilant 24/7, operating with another means you only have to be half as vigilant

>Vigilance is a discipline, it get's better with practice.

Well it's a bit more, but simplistically that's a good explanation.

But you don't get to do less with someone else there.

Yes you do. With another individual you can exercise tiered awareness, you can sleep, eat, and preform other actions without the need to be at 100% situational awareness.

>If your buddy doesn't have it, you just made yourself much more vulnerable. And the more people you have, the worse it gets.

Which is why you choose who you're operating with wisely. You don't just grab some random nogunz and then run off together. You should be building a camaraderie, learning how to move and fight together.

>I'm not saying be a loner, but it's not that way for everyone.

No doubt, so people can operate alone, but your average Strelok isn't going to have the experience, knowledge, and fortitude to do that.

> btw, what's rationale?

Mental fortitude, understanding the situation and your role in it.

>>326947

>Meme1911 (don't get me wrong, it's a good gun but it's pretty outdated by today's standards as there are better .45ACP pistols)

>2 knives instead of axe

>Bolt action and AR with tacticool attachments everywhere. Pick one you moron.

shit/10

>>326981

Not very, you can very easily survive a week with 30 something shells and a shotgun. Could use some more water containers though.

>>327080

>mfw I live in a place where there is plenty of freshwater or water that is easy to filter out and drink

>>327894

> "tactically precarious"

It wasn't clear that's what you meant for everything, but maybe I just lost track. Still depends largely on scenario I think, though I certainly get your point. But you never know when you get a break and 5 minutes of something else, something familiar might help, the way the smell of coffee and a warm cup can be a little dose of normality. I have a hard time imagining a deck of cards is that normality, though.

>100% situational awareness

I don't think there is any such thing. There is always more that your mind hasn't mapped out around you. And there are always moments when you realize you were just looking at the ground in front of you with your head up your ass. Or you get focused on one thing and forget to keep you head on a swivel. Everyone does it to varying extents. What actions would you do differently with someone else there? I realize that as the numbers go up it changes, but with just one or two you really don't get much reprieve except in sleep, and even then it depends on situation.

Having someone awake at all times if possible is better though, I agree. But, and this is a bad example probably, you need to be trained to wake up when you hear anything unusual. For instance, I grew up with dogs 50 yds from the house. They barked on occasion like dogs do. I don't know how much because I slept through it. But their warning bark was instantly recognizable and everyone in the house would wake up. None of us were putting less energy into that just because someone else would have heard it, too. Likewise, with vehicles doing anything unusual.

Like I said, bad example, but people who are like that are not going to be less vigilant with others around, and people who are complacent need to be kept on the ball constantly until they improve.

>Which is why you choose who you're operating with wisely. You don't just grab some random nogunz and then run off together. You should be building a camaraderie, learning how to move and fight together.

I agree, but even then, your mind has to constantly keep track of what that person is doing and to fight how easy it is mentally to slack a bit with someone there. It's good to be able to keep an eye on it for each other, but watching for them slacking is that much more you aren't doing whatever else you need to be doing. I would say draws off focus, but focus isn't the word.

I fully admit I am talking more about innawoods stuff; towns, cities are different, but they seem like such a deathtrap to me that my #1 priority is to not be there. I'll leave that stuff to /pol/.

I think that some of the best training I had was wandering around and hunting as a kid where I didn't have permission. Too bad about all the game cameras nowadays. You can practice situational awareness doing just about anything, even driving is great (and makes you safer.) It might just be me not turning it off though, since I find driving in cities incredibly stressful, like working a dangerous job with people who aren't safe. That might have been part of my problem with the military.

>>327928

Not a bolt action, it's a 10/22 takedown. I'd keep it in my bag for a backup rifle, or if I find an ally along the way.

>>327850

How exactly do you intend on cooking that fish once your lighter is out of fluid?

>>327860

GET DOWN ON THE GROUND

8/10 no flashbangs

>>327897

VIOLENT SCREECHING

>>327898

>pots

>no fucking water besides a mere canteen

> no way to start fires at all

'long term'. Sure, if long is like, a week.

>>327898

>no sleeves

>shitloads of gas and flashbangs

>gas mask + nvgs

>tazer

what the fuck, even. You know what a PMC is, right?

>>327975

>>328076

Good one /k/omrade

>>327975

>I fully admit I am talking more about innawoods stuff; towns, cities are different, but they seem like such a deathtrap to me that my #1 priority is to not be there. I'll leave that stuff to /pol/.

This. Modern, urban societies are cucked and full of shit. I do believe that when SHTF, it's better to go innawoods, rendezvous there with some friends that share the same mindset and ideology, and just start a small community. Retreat from the rotten society and start from zero. And then let the world burn, while you're living a peaceful life innawoods.

>>328135

>I'm moving to 'Murica in a couple of years anyway, where I can finally own my dream raifu.

Are you sure you can get in? Also, have you considered migrating inside the EU, a lot of places still let you own all kinds of raifus (at least before Brussels cracks down on us evil babby killing assault gun owners); I personally have an AK, 9x19 pistol and permits for manual action 12ga shotgun and 5.56 semi-auto as well.

>>328105

There was a time when they weren't shitholes but the 60's did a fucking number on em.

>>328173

sweet pistol ammo and lack of water purification shit bruh

>>328247

>only mac10 and serbu

>nothing hueg

>not shitloads of armor

>no helmet

>no explosives on you with deadman switch for a final 'fuck you'

>no gas to either detonate with your DMS

>or atleast no claymores to keep people herded into the molotovs

>knife, not a machete because fuck people

0/10 disappointed.

>>328273

nearly actually rated this but then i saw all the silly attachments and just laughed instead

thanks anon

>>328150

>Brussels

What, this is where all European and EU-NA bullshit happens?

>>328287

Yes. EU council is in Brussels.

>>328292

Death, death by shitting bricks, or death by diarrhea

>>327686

>website doesn't work, and the swf someone gave me doesn't work. What am I doing wrong?

I got it to work, still don't have attachments. Did I find a timeloop into the past?

>>328266

>Implying the average person can get their hands on claymores, shittons of armor, and a large machine gun

It looks like he took a lot of influence from our old pals Dylan and Eric

>>328291

Along with the NATO HQ, right?

Might as well say the Bilderberg Hotel is in the region.

>>328302

Homemade armor.

Claymores, well. Maybe.

I mean, what's to stop you from spending ALL of your money on this shit, black market or whatever. There's always shady fucks around that you can find, and hey, you're gonna die anyways.

tfw my best friend and i's names are the same as them. lots of jokes are made

>>328303

Well it does have a pretty central location. It's no coincidence that Netherland has the largest harbours in the world, and is considered the port to Europe.

>>328304

I wouldn't think it'd be a good idea to roam around a shady area of town asking people where one can get a large machinegun, if you're an anti-social person, (which you probably are if you want to murder a fuckton of civilians indiscriminately) you probably don't have many connections with people like that, but a helmet and a little more armor definitely wouldn't hurt, a semi-automatic rifle would be more effective overall than a fully automatic weapon anyway. And I'm with you on the machete. No, FBI, I have no intentions of committing such atrocities, despite the fact that I am discussing all the details of how one might achieve it.

>>328306

Also i never mentioned a MG, really. I just said 'only a mac and serbu'. fucking use an AK or something, or get an AR and one of those drop-in bolts. Or if you want to go down as the breeki-est terrorist ever, obrez it up. Die a memorable death, damnit.

My EDC (The bags are one quart sized ziplock and one large kitchen trashbag, the flask is an altoids tin, the rope is a bundle of paracord, the marker is a pen,) I don't wear a bandolier everywhere, they just don't give enough space in the pockets

>>328330

Zipties why?

NVGs why?

Otherwise fine i guess.

>>328330

>>328333

For convincing people to leave and never come back.

Or in case a misguided cop or someone gets in the way.

>>328333

Bullets. You shouldn't ever have to question them.

>>328336

Also bullets.

>>328333

>detain

see, that's where you went wrong

>>328336

>misguided cop

Someone is awful generous today.

>>328059

uh, knife has a striker on it.

>>329466

Get the drop on someone better equipped than you kill him, and take his shit.

>>329530

Thank you for the advice, /k/omerade