/k/ - Weapons

>Steyer Aug

Well first I switch to an AR or Kalashnikov

>>328464

First i resolve the crippling weakness. The constant threat of potato famine. And chronic drunkeness

Rifle is fine when combined with irish luck.

>>328474

>kalashnikov

no

If I was going to take a wild guess, you're another one of those russiaboo faggots.

>>328474

Why?

>>328478

AKs are popular for being cheap as shit, reliable, and so simple even mudslimes can operate it. Perfect for dumb potato niggers.

Also:

>Estonia

I'm sure your opinion is completely unbiased.

assuming this isn't a VPN of course.

Small countries can profit more from mandatory military training and unmanned systems.

And I'm not talking about UCAVs or whatever, I'm talking about landmines, sea mines, surface to air systems, that kind of thing.

Nothing expensive like a fucking reaper or a quarter mil Javelin missile.

>>328478

Dude fuck off with your butthurt, you hating Russians doesn't make a firearm from the Soviet union bad. Quick question do Estonians stop breathing when a wind brings Russian air over Estonia?

>>328480

M16/AK and their derivatives have the widest range of weapons and largest number of aftermarket parts. AK variants come in sniper and machine gun forms as well, their ammunition and many of their parts interchangeable.

>>328486

I do like AKs, but I don't see why they would need to change the AUG. Also, it's not like a fucking small arm change would have a huge impact on the performance in battle. Updating the platform would be cheaper than replacing all of their magazines, training accessories, armorer tools and re-training the people. It makes no fucking sense.

>>328482

>>328486

I'm a hot blooded Latvian nationalist but I will admit that Russia has some of the best military equipment and tech in the damn world.

>>328486

nigger russian air smells like shit.

i dont think that having 1 soldier/ 10 km^2 of land is a very good idea. get more people, even if it means mandatory service. if possible make state sanctioned militias

>>328486

>AK sniper variants

Are you talking about the shitty Tabuk rifle in 7.62x39? Isn't the build quality of the the RPKs higher than the regular AK? Wouldn't a dedicated light machine gun outperform the RPK? The AK for everyone strategy is terrible. Good luck having marksmen and snipers with 7.62x39 or 5.45x39.

>>328464

>Arty: 105mm howitzers

>AA: RBS-70 missile system

Well, you should buy some bigger guns, MLRS platforms and more serious AA. If we learned anything from Ukraine (apart from the usefulness of infiltration and political confusion), is that you need these.

Well you gotta have some nukes/ICBM first.

>>328491

They make Vepr chambered in 7.62x54r and 7.62x51.

AK12 is gonna have a DMR variant as well.

With AK platform, you can have pistol (following US's law), SMG, assault rifle, battle rifle, marksman rifle, light/medium machine gun and even shotgun.

It's a breddy versatile platform.

>>328491

RPKs are better than regular AKs, at least in Russia. Mostly because Molots puts more attention to the manufacturing process than Kalashnikov's concern, but also because of a beefier trunnion and thicker barrel. With a good crown work, an AK can come close to the 1MOA mark, which is plenty for the DM role (and they already make those on 7.62x51/54r, 30-06 and 6.5Grendel).

Again, shit is pointless, they have a good rifle, stop trying to change their rifle.

Kurwa man right here is right

>>328490

They need more people.

If they wanted, they could set up some facilities to produce their own spare parts, which would greatly improve the overall performance and reliability of the existing rifles in a more affordable way. Hell, you could even hire private companies that have the machinery to make the pieces so you don't even need to set up a proper plant. I reckon you could improve some aspects of the AUG, but the base design is good.

Let's just assume that they find a way to arm their whole army with decent small arms I don't want to start speaking about the Leader T2 again.

Also assume tha they also start drafting, sanction militias, buy artillery and MLRS platforms and decent AA.

What should be the next step of their master plan?

>>328494

Sure, but the parts compatibility would be limited. For example the 8mm Mauser M76 inner workings are heavier than the moving parts inside the regular Zastava AK. The only interchangeable parts would be the trigger group, dust cover and furniture.

Besides, the Irish don't need a new rifle. They need a whole new defense doctrine, more men and hardware.

>>328498

they might want to get more apcs. small countries love apcs.

>>328482

Why the fuck would I ever VPN to Estonia?

Yeah, it is cheap as shit and reliable, I accept and understand that but being a modern tacticool rifle for a modern military, it just doesn't work.

>>328486

Fuck off, Trudeau.

>>328487

>>328496

I was mostly kidding when I said switching out the AUG is the first thing to do but unironically defending it is borderline retarded.

>>328487

M16 would be preferable, because the Irish can rely on Irish-American gun manufacturers to supply them with the latest stuff.

>>328491

There are compromises in every high-commonality platform. These compromises are outweighed by the fact that a tiny island country can't rely on resupply if it gets into a war.

For Ireland Mk12/M16/M4/M249 with ammunition commonality and some parts (or supplier) commonalty is better than having a completely different source rifle with different cartridge for each.

But do go on, it's fun to trigger butthurt belters like yourself.

>>328506

>Why the fuck would I ever VPN to Estonia?

Why would anyone even live in such a shit country?

>>328509

Ironic coming from Le Current Year country.

>>328508

>unironically defending it is borderline retarded.

Why? Are you one of those faggots that actually believe an M4/16 would radically change the performance of any modern armed forces?

Is the delusion about small arms that strong on my /k/?

Now that's what I call borderline retarded. The AUG is fine.

>>328512

Service rifles not being massive game changers doesn't change the AUG being an overpriced piece of shit my white friend.

>>328504

Well, NATO stuff might be preferable in theory, but you most likely won't build a strong enough arms industry, so you'll have to stockpile everything in peacetime.

Might as well buy Russian, they already proved that their latest stuff works. Just buy it in bulk and act casually. Not shady, just don't make it to be be a big and important thing to avoid political problems.

>>328499

Basically, one factory can stamp all that shit all days long.

And yeah, better to have some parts interchangeable, than none at all.

The ergonomics is going to be similar too, so soldiers are gonna have no problem jumping between say, an AK rifle and an AK shotgun.

>>328504

stay with them for simplicity and eventually get something better. preferably with parts made in your country

i dont know much about apcs, just that litwa and inflanty love them

>>328515

Russians are known for selling monkey models. if you must get your stuff from some country that copies russia, maybe serbia i dont know

>>328516

>toilet of the baltic

that would be russia

>>328516

Woah nice source on that second pic there, faggot.

If you love Russia so much, go live there.

Enjoy having no free speech and that 20 per 100,000 people murder rate, because then there will be 1 shitposting retard less on this site.

>>328519

>>328520

Is the Russiaboo canacuck really just one guy? Wow.

>>328520

Hate the ruskies and soviets all you want, but they make some nice fucking guns.

>>328520

>implying most shitposters aren't Russians with VPNs.

>service rifle:AK101

>pistol:Glock 17

>>328509

>But do go on, it's fun to trigger butthurt belters like yourself.

What are you talking about?

Right now Ireland gets all its small arms supplies from other European Union countries. They already have many weapons that use 5.56 and I don't see the advantage of the switching to some AR15 derivative when I can't think of any European company other than HK and FN that make AR15 derivatives for the military. I think FN makes M16 parts for the US Military, but that might be just something their branch in the US does. The less we talk about H&K the better.

There is no logistical advantage to switching to the AK or AR for the Irish unless they open their own factories to make their AR or AK copies.

>>328525

>the advantage in switching

>>328522

The AK was good for it's time, won't deny. Still prefer the AR platform myself however.

>>328516

>greece-vs-estonia.jpg

According to newest IMF statistics GDP (PPP) per capita in Greece is 26,773 dollars compared to Estonian 27,995 dollars. That's despite Greece wasn't in USSR with its socialist "economy".

>>328525

Brits (SAS at least), canadian and danes use C7/C8, which is canadian M16/M4.

And AR15 is sold worldwide as civilian rifle.

While AK is well, AK, no patent and any steel factory can make millions, parts and surplus are all over the places.

>>328521

yeah, he is kremling. he was recruiting for russians in the ukrainian conflict. he knows lots of shit about russian military and everything. he is russiaboo supreme or russian special agent send to kanada to conquer it on his own

>>328519

>Russians are known for selling monkey models.

Well, that's a problem, but don't they usually sell the monkey models to third world shitholes? Although I'm mostly thinking about the MRLSs here, with all those funny but "politically incorrect" warheads. And maybe something like the S-300 for AA, or maybe even S-400. Or S-500 to really scare britbongs.

I'm sure that the difference between 152mm and 155mm isn't that big.

>>328527

It's simply a matter of preference.

I like both.

>>328529

>While AK is well, AK, no licensed patent and any steel factory can make millions of them*

>>328531

Why would we want to scare the Brits? We're cool now

>>328513

>being an overpriced piece of shit

And you think replacing the rifle would be cheaper?

You think the civilian price is somehow related to what the rifle cost for regular armies?

Both modernization and rifle replacement were evaluated by the Irish forces some years ago and modernization was considerably cheaper than replacing stuff. The AUG performs fine, they already have the logistic structure working around this platform.

>>328530

Is this our new faux kraut? Канада?

>>328540

>new

he is there since migration

>>328541

yeah there is a huge lack of tonks in here. but i dont believe that leo2 would be good choice. its too expensive and maintenance is shit as it always was with german armor.

get a small batalion of something that's cheap and decent, maybe something french.

tanks suck in general but they are always nice to have.

>>328537

>now

That's the keyword here.

>>328546

>Leclerc for isle defense

Using a French tank for area denial/deterrence against Brits… Absolutely brilliant, Poland.

>>328546

>>328548

>Using a French tank for area denial/deterrence against Brits

You know it's crazy enough that it might just work. We wouldn't land for fear of catching "French"

>>328540

>new

He has been around since day one. Sometimes he gets more spergie than others. I do reckon that there is a lot bias from both sides when it comes to talking about slav shit in general. Neither this maplesucker approach or what we were having on halfchan before we got out (the complete opposite, the board was filled with AR wankers, often tripfags too) is alright.

>>328542

They are also ignoring that weapon purchases are usually a political statement.

>>328542

You can buy the license and open a local factory that produces that shit (with the AR), or just open a factory that produces that shit (with the AK).

More jobs for everyone.

>>328552

That's what I said in my earlier post.

>>328553

Well, these would be cheaper alternatives than buying the Aug license and locally producing it, that's for sure.

>>328552

Unless they intent to have a civilian market and/or export to civilian markets and other armed forces around the globe. Firearm factories aren't really all that profitable. H&K is on red numbers, Izhmash was on red numbers for several years due to a poor civilian market approach (after the re-organization shit got much better), Colt is almost broke because of poor civilian market approach and failing to retain military contracts. They are also often very subsidized by the state, which adds up to the cost.

Signing up a contract with the local armed forces every 5 years isn't enough to keep a factory going.

>>328557

Steyr is actually reasonable with the licenses, part of the reason why the Australians adopted the AUG decades ago instead of colt's shit (who didn't wanted to let the prison island dwellers make their gun locally).

And, again, civilian market price=/=Military price. Some of the semi-auto versions of military weapons being sold in 'merica cost twice as much as what the companies would ask to the military, not even the wildest volume discount would make up for such a huge price difference (I'm looking at you, FN).

>>328558

You can have both, the factory can sell civie gun as well as military guns.

It's time Ireland got its own national gun industry.

Oh, I know one way…

>>328557

or you can make your own guns from your own projects. like us or israel

>>328578

What's the fucking point when we already got two perfectly viable and time-tested platforms i.e. AR and AK?

>>328560

>You can have both, the factory can sell civie gun as well as military guns.

That's what I'm saying. If you don't have a civilian market, a factory is a bad idea, if you go for the international civilian market, you're in for some profit.

They would need an assembly line + 992r compliance part manufacturing in order to sell on the biggest civilian market ('merica), but that should be so expensive as long as they do it correctly.

They could come up with their own design that takes AUG mags or AR mags with a simple magwell change (kind of like the G36 does) instead of having to change the whole stock as they would do with current AUG.

If you open the possibility of local manufacturing of weapons with civilian market focus, the viability of a weapon swap is considerable.

I still believe that changing their rifle is the least of their worries.

>>328579

Because you would also jump into a saturated market. If the Tavor has taught us anything (besides proving that the jews are shit at making small firearms) is that there is a market for off-the-mill stuff, it's just a matter of doing things correctly. Also, I don't think having the production scale needed to reduce cost by production volume would work on such a small country. They are better off with a "semi-boutique" military rifle and a product differentiation marketing campaign.

>>328578

I wouldn't look towards Israel for small arms inspiration. They either make copies of already established designs or below average gimmick guns like the Tavor. I'm not counting the Desert Eagle because that was developed by Americans, but I think it falls into the gimmick firearm category.

>>328587

He's a Russian posting under a VPN. Also

>Estonia is gud

Estonia is a shithole and the only reason it looks appealing to you is because your shit government is literally run by the cartels.

>>328516

what did estonia ever do to you?

your double-mother parents ran off with an estonian stronkman or something?

>>328582

They are the living proof that marketing can take you places, but also that there is a demand for something that isn't an AR or an AK.

>>328587

It has been my long held dream to move to Estonia to make a living out of polluting their pseudo-nordic culture with some of our latino music byproducts.

>>328596

I never said it was good :^)

And yes, almost anything is better than living here. Except living in a country ruled by SJWs, fuck that shit.

>>328599

At least you're white, so they won't notice. I knew a girl from Gran Buenos Aires whose antecesors were estonian. Oh the irony.

>>328601

> Except living in a country ruled by SJWs, fuck that shit.

you make a valid point, Mexibro.

>>328596

Go eat some burger, burger.

>>328597

ebin

>>328532

Pretty much, both are fine rifles and will kill a person if you pull the bang button and point it right, just that most military groups prefer AR-like rifles, though we mostly use Galils and a few G3A3s around.

>>328702

Yes

>>328702

Those tonk are way too cute, you must keep them.

Still, if you want to use them in combat, then what would be their role? What is the topography of Ireland like? How much forests do you have? How urbanized is that country? Do you have many big cities (with multi-store buildings everywhere) or mostly smaller towns?

>>328718

You're the one that made it about Russia, I just made a wild guess and thought the guy was a russiaboo when a AR is a much more combat viable assault rifle and better in nearly every way, and a better option in most cases unless you're some African warlord that wants cheap shit commie guns.

>ignorant shithole

nice buzzword.

I hate that word so much, only the biggest faggots on this planet use that word in a argument.

>>328702

Yes, those are obsolete

>>328727

There is a reason why half of the world uses AK variants, even countries who downright shoot commies on site. Actual Finns, not like you southern Finns use AK variants.

Being butthurt about losing in ww2 doesn't justify what gun is best.

>>328739

>hills and villages

Then you could use a few tanks. If someone invades you, and you have decent AA, then that invasion will be a landing. Rushing them with tanks is then a viable tactic, right? But if you want that, then you should get some actual tanks.

>>328735

Fairly positive those are left over modified to shit versions from the 1900s or something and from commie rule.

We use AKs too, not sure what variants though.

As I said, both guns are good, but it's a personal preference (and preference of many militaries in Europe) for me and if I had a choice I'd rather use a AR style rifle.

>>328739

Does your soldiers wear anything on top of their uniform other than those colonial arktis?, forgive me i really haven't seen much pictures of Irish soldiers with body armour. But you really need those.

>>328745

Hahahah, from "Cheap commie gun who only african warlords would buy" to both guns were good.

>>328597

>>328731

>Poland got so drunk it put his colors backwards

>>328749

Ah yes, almost forgot, you buy your helmets from Rabintex right?, i think you should either make your own helmets or find a supplier that's closer to home.

>>328464

For starters

>Size: 7,500 personnel

Double it

>Service rifle: Steyr Aug

Okay

>Service pistol: USP

Switch to something else in 9mm like a glawk, fuck the HK

>GPMG: FN MAG

MG-3, the system just werks and has since the 40s

>>328749

From what I've heard the leopard was designed for the forests of Germany, so it should work in a hilly environment too.

Personally I'd buy Armatas, but only because all those active defenses seem to be great, and that tank was made to be effective. But we'd have to wait with that, because it's not even finished.

I got most of my knowledge from spending my youth in the internet, so I know more about war in the contest of politics than about actual tactics and strategies. So I can apply a lot of common sense when it comes to buying equipment, but I have no idea what an actual soldier would want to fight with, be it a grunt or a general.

>>328754

>>328756

Both seconded

>>328756

Problem is Armatas aren't being sold.

Leos are the best on the open market, everything else is proprietary.

>>328749

T90SM would work too tbh

>>328764

>Inb4 Estonia

>>328764

>T-72 with plastic on it

no

If I was going to take a wild guess, you're another one of those russiaboo faggots.

>>328764

Reminds me: they might as well buy some self-propelled guns to back up the tanks, if they want to rush an invading force.

Now, someone more well-versed in these things should tell us what would be the ideal size of and composition that force.

Also, anti-ship rockets could do wonders for the defence of an island.

>>328769

It has an upgraded gun which shoots quite far for a t90 upgrade, and also reactive armour(Assuming they wont send monkey models). Sure, a Leopard, hell even a Challenger 2 might work for the better compared to the old scorpion.

As i said, any 3rd gen is ok enough.

As i said before,

>>328770

I was thinking the same. Our Naval Service is pretty small and inadequate for an island nation

ASM's would be a massive boost to our defensive capabilities

>>328718

What is a "belter" and why did you call me one?

>>328509

>But do go on, it's fun to trigger butthurt belters like yourself.

This right here.

>>328771

>Assuming they wont send monkey models

That's essentially why the only real option for MBT's is the Leopard 2 Well I think UK would probably sell Ireland the Challenger 1 or maybe even 2 but highly doubt Ireland would be pleased Since they are pretty much the only nation that wouldn't send them a gimped monkey model.

>>328772

Question is what type should you buy. I'm not at home in this field, all I know is that hypersonic is fun.

>>328773

Do I see AKs in that pic?

>>328772

Get cruisers and a decent navy.

Good long range SPG, say AS90, PZH2K, Msta-S, or even any of those refurbished APC with big guns.

For air defence i would actually recommend S300 or S400.

>>328777

Indeed you do. Not ours though, we train some African nations along with the UK

Javelins are expensive as shit, you can get three TOWs for the price, which are actually better because they're all-weather and more jam resistant. A tank just has to pop smoke and Javelin is confused.

Also 50 to 100 unguided anti tank rockets for a single Javelin…. Come on man.

>>328780

What is the actual budget of Ireland? I fear we've already spent enough to cripple their economy for a decade.

>>328783

Seconded, same mistake my country fucking made. Far too few javelins for few spec ops troops that even isis rebels on sulawesi outgun our army with their RPGs.

>>328785

The budget for 2016 is €904m

Up quite a bit from the last few years

>>328464

The most important thing is getting more personnel. It doesn't matter if you're using chauchats or G11s, you can't win a war with 7,500 men. Some Main Battle Tanks would also be a good investment. Ex-soviet machines can be bought incredibly cheaply. A domestically produced AR18 pattern rifle will give you a solid platform for cheap to outfit our hopefully expanding military, and you potatoheads already know how to use them.

>>328786

Or the Carl Gustav. The gun costs $1000, and the shells cost $300-$3000 each.

Also there are shells for it which have really nifty capabilities, giving infantry in effect a pocket artillery ability.

1:34 airburst.

>>328788

We definitely have a surplus of people willing to serve. Every time a recruitment competition is opened thousands apply for a few hundred spaces

>>328793

You could introduce arms education in schools, and encourage local militias.

>>328793

Please, make the widowmaker domestically

>>328796

inb4 those militias hook up with ones on the north.

all the better for Ireland anyways.

>>328799

The IRA is famous for using the AR18 which they dubbed "the widowmaker".

>>328792

I've already had the idea of using an RPG with a rangefinder and a chemical or mechanical timer for airbursting ammo. Same capabilities for a fraction of the cost.

>>328797

Okay, I say it again: Leader T2.

>>328803

Weird, I've never heard that

>>328806

I have, the IRA got a lot of AR-18's among other "state of the art" rifles for the time. Ireland was pretty much where the AR-18 was combat tested.

>>328805

Sure, the Leader T2 was shitty, but not all AR18s are. If you could produce a decent one, it would probably allow you to equip more soldiers for the same price, which will help you with your lack of personnel.

>>328799

Look I can tell you from experience, people can either be content and comfortable slaves or they can be ornery and independent freemen.

My country is choosing the former, and it's slowly strangling us.

>>328805

Even cheaper would be using a wire or string. No timer needed, just loop a wire around a normal RPG fuse.

Want the RPG to explode 300m away? cut the wire at 300m mark.

>>328815

Okay /k/ommandos, serious question. What would you rather bang in that picture? The AR-18 or the girl? I'd probably end up banging the girl to get to the AR-18

>>328825

AR-18

>>328825

Id take that fine fighting gal myself, but knowing /k/, they'd rather stuck that barrel up their asses and call it a day and bitch at the woman for trying to fight in the first place.

>>328825

implying that's not a /k/ommando in a wig and skirt

captcha: himnicely

>>328780

Way too expensive. I'm biased towards defence only though

>>328781

>>328773

OR, maybe, those niggers were drunk and they are showing their flag up-side down (assuming they are from Ivory Coast (would make sense considering their camo).

I know there are Irish troops on the pic, I can see both the AUG and the Irish camo

>>328792

Enjoy your bleeding ears after firing two or three times.

>>328899

>>328888

>>328855

N O I C E

AR-18 of course, and if need be i'd use it to protect my virginity from that semen demon she's Catholic so she'd be after my dick from the start

>>328742

What the fuck is indonesia with all those islands and jungles and shit going to do with Leopard 2s besides having them look good at parades?

Seriously, you guys would of been better off if you went the armor route buying lift aircraft and VDV style Russian airborne armor, or even better, devloping a few brigades of amphibious marine troops, and a rapid reaction force of a brigade of paratroopers or airmobile infantry

>>328942

I was just wondering that. Something like a BRDM2 vehicle would even be able to sail between minor islands, no need for an airforce.

>>328953

That video is 90's as fuck.

>>328955

nostalgiaboner

>>328747

You do know I am talking about the ancient AK models from the 1950s right, and I what I mean by the good AKs is the newer models.

>>328825

>girl

>>328498

>Whole army with decent small arms

Seems feasible considering that they've got a measly 7,500 man standing army.

>Start drafting

That's what I'm talking about. I like the mandatory conscription that both Finland and Switzerland have respectively. More men fighting = more people educated in small arms usage and technical skills.

>Sanction militias

boner.jpg though if you're already conscripting, there's no need for them unless you're using the militias as a way to use foreign fighters to increase the size of their standing army.

>Buy arty

I think a good method for such a small standing army is to issue knee mortars to every squad in order to provide limited fire support to themselves. A heavy mortar squad implemented into every company would also be a huge compliment their small volume of manpower.

The name of the game is lightning quick reaction times with well rounded squad capabilities.

>MLRS

I like them, but I don't know if the Irish could logistically handle them effectively. I'd imagine that MLRS systems would have a very limited effectiveness unless they follow the same artillery doctrine as the BM-21.

>Decent AA

This would be fucking imperative as their volume of manpower is so small that concentrated CAS runs could essentially wipe the entirety of their army out.

I would suggest implementing AA into all of their APC designs, as well as making MANPAD commonplace within every unit.

Long-range AAA should be readily available at any time.

>>329078

the point with militias is to have as many volunteers as possible. They must be volunteers, having conscription is the last thing you want to do. As is proven by war in the ukraine, morale is very important. Traditional army should be made from units that need more training, like armored cavalry. Education on the use of firearms would be handled by militias

Also wielding irregulars will criple your peacetime economy less then wielding traditional army.

>>328464

Use potato launchers. They work and you have lots of ammo for it.

>>328514

I think his fly might be open.

>>328498

>sanction militias

I honestly don't understand why more countries don't do this. Chance of successfully occupying a country is out the window if there's a dozen nationalist militias running around. It makes the war extremely taxing on the invading country. You just need to train them in recruitment so it's nearly impossible to stamp out.

>>328464

Why does the person in OP's image look like they belong in /cuteboys/?

>>329041

Yeah, compare that with the AR-15 of the time with no proper forward assist

>>328942

Why i would love to think that way.

But with our classical military doctrine and ooga boogas we get if we buy or think of anything chinese or russian in our military right now everyone goes ooga booga.

We only got our proper paratroopers(LINUD) set up again in 2012 lmao.

>>329185

Its a girl…

>>329310

oh and dont allow women in military except for support roles.

Improving the Irish Army? Simple, kick the paddy's off of Ireland.

But in all honesty an updated AUG and a real tank MBT would help.

>>328516

>Shitting on Eesti

Shame on you. Eesti has done more innawoods time than any of us, maybe aside from Lithuanians and Latvians. Only the balts have the autism to go innawoods for a straight 40+ years after a war ended and the west told them to fuck off. Japan gets an honorable mention for time spent innawoods

>>329310

To be fair /k/ wouldn't notice, too busy fapping over the Aug.

>>329318

>Japan

Made my brain click, maybe the Irish should buy some kinky and cool shit off the Nips? I mean it's not like they are going to use it are they?

>>329396

Isn't Japan trying to sell submarines to Australia?

>>329397

To the Australian Navy or Emu's?

>>329398

Australian Navy.

>>329401

That's a relief, I thought the Emu's were trying to spread their influence.

>>329312

>Support roles

How about not at all. Keep them in the kitchen. The civilian kitchen.

Get those fuckers an MBT. Maybe steal some Challengers from the Brits.

Also, what's their aircraft situation?

They need way more AA, get some manpads and maybe something to mount of those APCs like North Korea does.

>>329312

>Be irish soldier

>Fellow soldier is a qt redhead with freckles

She could give me support in my dick

>>329452

>What is there aircraft situation like

Oh god strelok why did you make me look it up? It's worse than I could possibly imagine.

>Maritime Patrol

CASA CN-235 x2

>Transport

Learjet 45 x1

>Surveillance

Britten-Norman Defender x1

Cessna Reims FR172 H x5

>Helicopters

AgustaWestland AW139 x6

Eurocopter EC135 x4

>Trainer

Pilatus PC-9 x7 (Also used for ground attack)

That is all!

>>329460

I think even my country has a better equipped air force than Ireland.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Air_Force

>>328474

No, no. Definitely an AR.

>>329468

Fucking Paraguay has a better equipped air force than Ireland

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_Paraguay#Current_inventory

>>329475

I forgot Paraguay was a thing. I knew a girl from there, she was a qt.Too bad she killed herself.

>>329478

Paraguayan women are oddly qt, the aborigen of the area had very Asian-like facial features, so the end result is kind of unique. They are also famous for being very accessible if you know what I'm saying.

>>329478

I am actually looking up some more countries in the America's and even fucking Haiti despite being fucked up by earthquakes has a better air force than Ireland.

>>329482

The one I met was actually a white girl, stepdaughter of some guy from the Colorado Party. Really qt, half italian, half german. It was truly a shame, she was also quite smart.

>>329485

>Haiti

>Literal slice of Africa in America

>Still has a better air force than Ireland

MEIN GOTT

Ireland needs help.

>>329475

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_Air_Force_and_Air_Defence#Current_inventory

What about us? Also we are finally getting 16 OH-58D Kiowa Warriro helicopters this year.

>>329491

>Warrior

Typo.

>>329490

I think we need to start a collection for Ireland.

>>329491

>Croatia compared to Ireland.

Put it this way, Croatia has at least entered the Jet age unlike Ireland.

>>329490

Also put it this way, Haiti has a better equipped Air Force than Ireland and their Air Force has been fucking disbanded.

sage for double post

>>329060

>Type 2 AK-47s being shit

Take that back, heathen. I like the milled guns, even though they're completely unnecessary.

>>329544

>defending Estonia

Estonia is just a different kind of shithole, moron.

>>328754

The fuck did we do?

>>329391

>Yet

There's the key word.

>>329402

The Emus are more likely cooperating with the Mainland China to push for mass immigration to outnumber the white people of Australia.

>>328464

How about navy? Especially considering you're literally surrounded by Water.

>>329496

Hatti is about as dumb and nigger as you can get, those jets are not in flying condition.

never mind i looked it up, they sold their four Machetti S-211 jets to US private buyers and Singapore. better than in a lawn on concrete blocks.

>>329586

>Navy

"The Irish Naval Service is Ireland's Navy, and operates eight patrol ships, and smaller numbers of inflatable boats and training vessels, and has armed boarding parties capable of seizing a ship and a special unit of frogmen."

I seriously fucking think their only strategy in naval battles is to just engage in piracy and steal someone else's ship.

>>329612

Yup, that's Slovenia's doctrine as well. There is a photo of that trainer with Hind missile pods attached to it.

>>329681

>then we won't have that extreme autist who works in fucking Tesco and posts 217 times in a thread calling people criminals for pirating vidya.

Is this related to the Division's release? I haven't been on /v/ for a while, I sometimes pop by the 4AM threads.

>>329711

They are great and I wish we armed our trainers as well, but to have them as your only combat aircraft is a joke.

The need just as many working intel as in the feild, a nuclear missile capable sub would be the best.

>>329734

Should start a thread for Ireland's armed forces in general with their entire budget and military personnel number. How would /k/ save them?

Honestly you guys should get buddy buddy with us burgers considering the amount of people with Irish heritage in the US. Hell if people here where willing to support the IRA i'm sure there would be support for selling a few cheap M1 tanks, F-16s, and M109 Paladins. Please buy Humvees we have to many…

>14 RBS70 missiles

Holy shit buy some Stingers, Starstreaks or Mistrals for christ sake! Also buy some modernized triple A from Sweden considering they make quality shit. As for medium range SAMs well not many options for those when it comes to the west. You might be able to afford a few Patriot missiles but a better option would be buying some NASAM batteries and or Crotale missiles.

>>329737

>How would /k/ save them?

I'm not sure even /k/ can save them working with their current military budget.

>>328542

>The H&K HK416 is the only European military AR I have seen in active service.

Remind this to CODFAGs on YouTube they will go apeshit. Hell battlefield players not that much better.

>This faggot probably going to say HK416 is all new rifle system instead of a AR-15 with a G36 piston

>He already think M4s is a different platform than the M16

>>329743

that video is wrong about so many things…

also there are waaay more Diemacos in European service than 416s. looked up at wackypedia and it only lists Norway, don't know how correct that is.

>>329755

The HK416 is in use with the Croatian BSD, Polish GROM, Serbian special forces, Italian and French paratroopers.

Only Norway has it as the service rifle.

>>329544

Who let this child post on an 18+ website?

>>329609

It doesn't need interceptors, it needs SAM. And what the fuck could Ireland do with SEAD capability? Invade Britain?

They also need a shitton of anti ship missiles, because any invader is going to want to blockade them and take out their aircraft with shipborne SAM. Supersonic ones, no shitty robotsystem, exocets or harpoons.

>>329613

>the year of our lord 2050

>hms prince of whales cancelled to fund syrian rape gangs

>hms queen elizabeth just received three functional f-35B aircraft

>there aren't any pilots that can fly it though, because the heads up display makes everyone sick

>archimam of cambridge slaughters a goat and has an auspex examine its intestines

>the signs are favorable for a war

>transking charlotte orders invasion of ireland by pointing at a map with hurs codpiece

>the three britanistani ships enter the fogs around the free island of ireland

>they form an illuminati triangle of death, sealing off all trade routes

>BUT WAIT!

>from the island there is heard a buzzing

>BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

>BZZZZZZZZZZ

>BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBZZZZZZZZZZZZ

>the three british vessels are scanning the sky with radar and infrared and bacha bazi boys tied to the highest point of the ships

>radar is registering no metal components approaching

>infrared is registering no jet engines approaching

>bacha bazi boys cant see anything through the fog

>the buzzing is getting louder

>BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZBBBBBBBBBBBZZZZZZZZZZZZ

>and all of a sudden the buzzing stops

>the fogs around the island are silent and everyone breaths a sigh of relief

>there is a commotion on the hms queen elizabeth

>it drops radio contact

>the other two british ships break the triangle

>desperately order full speed ahead to the aircraft carrier

>suddenly from the fog

>three f-35b emerge

>theyre being flown in perfect formation

>irish pilots drunk on rye whiskey are not bothered in the least by latency in heads up display

>three british ships are completely destroyed

>f-35b returns to land in free ireland

>>329816

>f-35b returns to land in free ireland

>the jet exhaust from f-35b cuts trough the earths crust

>island is destroyed by three volcanoes

>>329816

Everything about that story seemed reasonable till you implied that F-35's would be ready by 2050. That's a tad optimistic?

>>329755

>that video is wrong about so many things…

You Have no idea. According to his research putting optics on a AK will make the weapon less accurate.

>>329760

>>329755

European nations are Buying AR-15s to stock up incase of emergencies?

>>329879

He didn't say that though, he was talking about COD game mechanics, not the irl ballistics or functionality of the rifle.

>>329880

no. service rifles. most euro special forces use some flavor of AR, usually Diemaco (good choice), and a few regular armies do also, like Denmark.

speaking of Denmark, I thought their pickup of the M60E6 was retarded until I read up on it. solved all the problems of the old Pig and it'll probably run for a lifetime.

>>329830

you tickle my funny bone and my sad bone at same time, owch

>>329879

He was saying nyet rifle is fine, not saying that optics=less accuracy

read the entire thread and not once person advocated for the M1126 Stryker. it's adaptable to a number of situations and comes in MGS with a 105mm. it can gun on the run and looks damn good while doing it

>>331054

>implying they can afford it

>>331057

each varient has high commonality with each other. it cuts down on costs. plus GDLS hasn't been able to sell enough outside of the United States.

>>328513

>piece of shit

overpriced, yeah, it's fucking german (Austrian, same difference)

But a piece of shit? nah.

What does your gear and training program look like? That's what really matters IMO.

>>331054

>Stryker

Out anon, now. Not even going to describe everything wrong with the Stryker other than the fact you could literally write war and peace about it. It's literally the F-35 of the AFV world

>>331054

>MGS with a 105mm

That would be cool if it could fire it sideways, or on the move, or if the reloading procedure didn't need a crane, or if the spare shells weren't just sitting naked in the low-armor hull.

>>331237

>Letting a US company near anything

>Wanting a fucking turbine engine

Jesus fucking christ are you trying to ruin a perfectly viable vehicle?

>>328815

Am I the only one that would have thought that was an FAL if we weren't talking about AR-18's?

>>331211

it can fire sideways you fuckwit