/k/ - Weapons

>Are there any kinds of weapons that don't present a significant suicide risk?

Guns are inanimate objects, they don't in and of themselves make you more violent. For suicide specifically, there are many fun and exciting ways to kill yourself that don't involve guns, so your risk isn't going to be changed one way or the other by getting a gun.

Well, you are a weapon.

Never thought about learning martial arts. I'm not saying you should be some fucking Chuck Norris of Bruce Lee wannabe, but martial arts can be fun, entertaining, and actually help you to boost your confidence. You could also make friends there.

About an actual weapon, I've never heard about a guy who has killed himself with a bow and an arrow.

>>329476

*Never thought about learning martial arts?

>>329469

>Are there any kinds of weapons that don't present a significant suicide risk? The most promising idea I've thought of so far is a bow and arrow.

If you get to the point where you're set on killing yourself, having a gun or not won't change a fucking thing. It's ver easy to end your life and there are more ways to do it than you could even imagine.

Advice?

Get a gun, go hiking, start target shooting, get out more, move your body and depression will start to go away. If that doesn't work, you probably need professional help (I'd go for a psychologist first, but I heard American psychologist are utter shit).

>>329474

Guns make it easier and faster. With a gun, I only have to have like one consecutive second of bad decision and I'm dead. Other methods are slower or more viscerally aversive/scary/painful, so more chance/urge to back out.

>>329479

I'm already seeing a professional. Haven't brought this up with them.

>>329476

Martial arts is a good idea, thanks.

>>329479

So is hiking and target shooting.

>>329480

>like one consecutive second of bad decision and I'm dead

Talk with your professional about it. But, heads up, suicidal behavior doesn't work like that. You don't kill yourself until you're ready, it's very well studied.

>>329486

Is the whole "don't have guns if you have depression" thing just an urban legend or something, then?

>>329474

>there are many fun and exciting ways to kill yourself that don't involve guns

>fun and exciting

Suicidal people are not looking for the most interesting method, they want convenience and speed.

>>329486

>You don't kill yourself until you're ready, it's very well studied.

Are you sure? Because there is something called spontaneous suicidal ideation. All it takes is one episode where you THINK you want to die, and one trigger pull.

>>329486

And, like. I'm pretty sure that people sometimes make impulse decisions that they later regret. Is suicide consistently an exception for some reason?

>>329486

It's actually pretty well known that most attempted suicides are a result of short term emotional reactions without much thought for the long term.

Essentially, the problem with suicidal people is they react too quickly and dramatically to events that depressed but non suicidal people are willing to sit and think over. I'm not saying it's necessarily their fault or not, as there could be a genetic component to it, but the reality is few suicides are well planned and thought over.

Get a rifle with a long enough barrel that killing yourself is infeasible. That or a musket

>>329502

I don't think my situation is the same as yours. 99.9% of the time I'd rather stay alive; I want to make sure the other 0.1% doesn't go off and do something the rest of me wouldn't approve. I just need a low-pass filter on my decisionmaking, to smooth out momentary impulses.

>>329514

Interesting. Not really something I can carry on the street, but I suppose the same is true for bow and arrow.

>>329514

If there is a will there is a way m8, I'm sure I could kill myself with a nugget for owning a nugget if I wanted it bad enough

>>329514

You can pull the trigger with your toe pretty easily.

>>329518

Yeah, of course. I'm talking about the middle case, where I might or might not do it depending on if it's inconvenient enough that I have to stop and think for five seconds.

>>329519

gdi don't give me ideas

>>329469

There is no environment other than a cell under 24/7 suicide watch that doesn't present a significant suicide risk to a suicidal individual.

If you don't feel like you're going to kill yourself via any of the hundred methods you currently own the tools for, get a gun. If you think you'd kill yourself with a gun, check into a suitable care facility before you use something else to get the job done.

>>329469

Regardless of suicide, bows are pretty fun TBH. Decent exercise, no recurring ammo costs (mostly), lots of interesting tips (Decapitation, bludgeons, explosive, etc.), less safety considerations if you live with others (No child can pull back 50#, no dud rounds).

And it would be pretty impressive if you did somehow shoot yourself in the head with one.

>>329476

I don't know about a martial art. He already beats himself up as it is.

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>>329480

Say it with me now "Carbon monoxide poisoning", it's as easy as falling asleep in a room with good seals and a faulty gas heater. Hell, you could practically do it by accident (dozens do every year)

Get an absurdly high-risk job Mercenary in dinduland is one thing, you either get gud and enjoy it, or you get yourself killed via occupational fatality.

>>329469

Not saying this to be edgy, but I do hope you kill yourself. The world really doesn't need any more dipshits that think like you, we're overrun with them anyways.

>>329487

That would be exactly it. When you enter the fascinatingly depressing world of gun control you find that virtually every pretense for it is based on absolutely nothing.

Seriously though, do it.

>>330688

That was horrible fucking grammar but I hope you understand. Drunk quite, m8.

>>330688

>Having a split-second course to death with no way of backing out (like undoing the noose) doesn't make it any easier to kill yourself.

>You will or won't.

Unfortunately, we do have to take your word with a grain of salt. Because we'll never be able to ask those who did go through with it. You can't dig up someone who died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound and ask if it was any easier.

>>329469

Whatever, really. As long as you're an adult in control of yourself and not religiously or politically overcharged. I think that mild depression isn't really something that limits person's ability to be rational. Otherwise the society might aswell confiscate weapons from everybody going through a divorce.

I do not think anybody's concerned with suicide. It's more about the whole murder-suicide porn/pseudo-commando/crime thing. But if you would someday lose your mind and motivate yourself to do something violent, then you would probably obtain a gun more suitable for your adventures. So the gun itself won't really make a difference.

If you have impulsive behaviour then you cannot handle anysort of weapon. Ever.

>>331053

>I do not think anybody's concerned with suicide

Yeah, except for the OP who does not want to kill himself due to having an easy hole-puncher on hand.

I would sooner say that the bow and arrow are very suicide-safe because they are less convenient even compared to a knife when it comes to suicide.

>I have depression, which is usually considered a contraindication for gun ownership.

Depression is considered a counter indication for owning rope, living in or near high structures, owning a vehicle, owning common household cleaning agents, appliances, medication….

>>329469

Do you own a rope or shoe-strings? That's pretty dangerous if you have depression. You might decide to kill yourself with them.

Seriously, if you kill yourself don't use a gun because the commie-jew-fucks just use suicide statistics as "muh ebil gun deaths". If you're a pussy just decide that if you are going to kill yourself you'll use helium or a rope instead of making a mess with a gun. If you're a hard cunt fall on your sword or something.

>>329469

>get depression

>decide to commit suicide

>no guns to do it with

>look through medicine cabinet

>nothing to commit suicide with

>go through garage

>no rope or straps to hang self with

>get on the roof

>jump down headfirst

>doctors move to ban teaching the laws of gravity so people can't find out how to commit suicide by falling

If I decide to kill myself then that's my choice and you'd need to kill me to prevent my suicide.

You don't have the right to another person's life. That's why murder is a crime in any civilized society. You don't have the right to decide if someone else should die, so why would you think you have the right to decide if someone should live?

There's really nothing wrong with suicide, it's just bringing the inevitable end to the now instead of the later. The illusion of our own feelings and perceptions are ultimate suffering, even to smile and laugh is unimaginably horrible once you understand what's really happening. The only end is death, but since that's inevitable anyway there's no harm in putting it off another day.

Being ready to kill yourself is actually an important step in having a happy life. The idea of being able to control if you live or die, understanding how pointless it is to fear death. Once you no longer fear death, what's the point in being afraid of anything? Death will eventually save you from even the most horrible suffering.

That's the end of my edgemaster 9001 rant.

>>329488

What the difference between thinking you want to die and wanting to die? How would you even know if someone who killed themselves on purpose didn't actually want to die? Did they tell you? Can you talk to god? Have you been taking your crazy pills?

>>331228

If you're prevented from killing yourself, you will perform labour. Because being homeless or committed to psych hospital sucks, so you're driven to performing cheap, desperate labour. If someone is desperate, they can be had for cheap. If they're crazy or worthless, no one cares how they're treated. Safety regs, fairness, decency goodbye.

Keeping certain people alive is good business.

>>331229

This is also the argument for uncontrolled immigration, but they don't phrase it so cynically or people might oppose the idea.

You could get a Glock 19, 9mm cant kill anything.

>>331416

The 9mm wouldn't kill anything, but the glock is a grenade.

>>331334

What do you mean? Unchecked immigration is allowed precisely to take advantage of cheap labour and drive down the cost of citizens' labour because job competition. Among other reasons. Why should it be phrased in any more sugar-coated a way? Unless I'm not understanding your point.

>>331552

Nvm, I misread. You said "they" don't phrase it that way. My bad.

Sage because I'm retarded.

ball in a sock

>>329480

Most suicides happen when you're on your way up, not when you're at rock bottom. If you're going down–if you're losing the will to do things, if everything feels like a massive chore without any point–then killing yourself will seem pointless too.

When you're on your way up, you feel like suddenly there's a point to doing things. Suddenly, you can get out of bed and do something–such as take life into your own hands by way of taking your own life with your own hands. You may even do it because you're afraid to stop being depressed; being a sad sack of shit gets addicting, sometimes.

I'd like to also point out that it helps to have a few people who would be unhappy if you died. I'm not an expert, but when I was suicidal, I thought about the people who would miss me, and kept going for them.

Think hard. Think of someone who would definitely be hurt by your passing. Stay alive for them, at least until you can start staying alive for yourself.

>>331219

Enjoy having t. gondii brainfuck you and make you even more feminine and depressed.

>>331657

Sounds like you've been on antidepressants. Have you read the black box warning?

>>331709

I've been on them. Got diagnosed for a clinical trial; it didn't really help.

Having my best friend who was my crush at the time call me an asshole was what I actually needed.

>>329488

>Suicidal people are not looking for the most interesting method, they want convenience and speed.

Do you have a rooftop you can jump off of? Do you have rope (or something similar to rope) available? Is there a frequently-used road anywhere near where you live? If your answer to any of the former is yes, a firearm should be a non-factor.

>>331657

>addicting

This is not a real word, consider suicide. :^)

>>332163

It conveys my meaning. Being a sad, listless pile of useless meat is both familiar and easy to get used to. Especially if all your friends and family try to support you by being nice to you all the time. It gets easy to just let them take care of you, and to let the "symptoms" get worse when they don't.

Part of the trouble with psychological BS is that if someone lies then everything goes out the window. Either everyone is telling the whole truth about what's going on, or you're missing some very important details, because people only lie about important things.

Incidentally, they also tend to lie about incriminating things–even things they only think are incriminating. Hence why kids who are abused and then blamed for it end up so screwed up; they're fucked with, and then told that it's their own damn fault that dad diddled them, so they lie about it because they can't bear to accept that it's their fault–even though it's really dad's fault for being a kiddie diddler and not maybe thinking twice about diddling his own kids.

>>329488

Oh, and I've dealt with sudden impulses to kill myself. Did not have a firearm handy, but did have a knife handy. Stopped myself via the think-about-everyone-who-will-miss-you method.