ea88f5 No.329507
Time for a new "quetions that don't deserve their own thread thread."
What's the "best" Nugget in terms of quality/authenticity that came out of Russia? Collectors give a lot of praise to the m39, but that's a Finnish rifle, and I'd prefer to get one that came out of the motherland.
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92e73c No.329511
>>329507
i mean they're all authentic and they're all authentically not very well made unless the finns fixed it. the receivers on all the finnish ones were russian captures anyway. if you want one from russia for the purpose of shooting it then really you should be more concerned with the condition and manufacturing of the individual example rather than the model as there is such a variance in quality. as a rule of thumb if it has a hex receiver rather than a round one it is earlier and more desirable from a collector's perspective.
this has been for a long time the best mosin resource: http://7.62x54r.net/
00f1d1 No.329515
758d54 No.329521
>>329515
this
i love my m44, but i honestly wish i had waited to try and find a 91/30 or PU sniper
0e1b7e No.329647
Aside from imfdb and world.guns.ru, what other general firearms identification resources exist?
88a789 No.329661
Why does the G-43 (and similar short-stroke designs; AR-18, Leader T2, SVT, etc.) have three-part gas rods? As far as I can see a two-part design would be better in every way, but I can only assume since no one's done it that way the three-piece design has some advantage I'm missing.
Anyone care to enlighten me?
063352 No.329754
8584bc No.329789
If you can afford it get a /k/98/k/. It's better in every way than a mosin except price, as only 15 million were built instead of 90 million for Mosin, and more were lost in battle, meaning very few survive now.
Mosin do have their own charm though.
3cfa46 No.329935
If I were looking to obtain a somewhat cheap AR that isn't just an M4 clone, would I be better off buying or building? And where should I buy the gun/parts from? I've heard that it's a bad idea to just buy a cheap M4 clone and then replace parts as you go, because by then you end up spending way more than you would have initially.
16483a No.329950
>>329935
>cheap AR
Build build build.
Lowers don't matter too much, just keep in mind that polymer will snap by the buffer tube if you land on it or pivot the buttstock.
Other than that, surf reviews and go from there.
7ccfa8 No.330006
Does /k/ have a guide to wall safes recommendations?
Looking for a safe that will hold a good number of long guns between a single set of studs
44b812 No.330066
>>329935
I went with a build myself so that I can split the parts between paychecks. what will probably happen is that I'll buy better parts more slowly than I would by cheap ones, but that's fine too IMO
c8bc61 No.330096
What sling should I get for my AK? What holster should I get? How do I make my own kydex shit? What's a good battle belt?
42de17 No.330100
>>329789
Russian mix masters are everywhere.
88a789 No.330160
>>329754
Er… not really. I was talking about the short-stroke system of something like a Gewehr 43 or Leader T2, not an AR.
7ccfa8 No.330227
AR15s are so cheap and omnipresent because everyone can clone them with the patent exparations right?
When do SCAR patents expire?
88a789 No.330231
>>330227
Probably some time in the 2050s or later, knowing current patent systems. After all, the patents on the AR only recently expired and they were registered in the '60s.
7ccfa8 No.330238
What's a good cheap AR15 that can mount a bayonet?
M&P is too short for rifle and (thanks to the NFA) too long for a carbine
3381aa No.330316
How to get funz in Germany?
4ad600 No.330319
Good carry holsters for Makarovs? Looking for any personal input.
565ef9 No.330320
Anyone know some good holsters for the Steyr C9-A1?
16483a No.330403
>>330100
In the US even the Russian Captures are getting hard to find and expensive.
988d40 No.330482
>>330316
Visit your local gun club and ask.
f72ebc No.330610
How do I FFL transfer? First time here. I'm confused by what I'm reading. Do I buy weapon first, then contact FFL receiver?
I'm ordering from classicfirearms and they have a "preferred FFL" list that says something like some dealers they've listed will always accept shipments and I don't needa notify them.
I am just so confused and don't know what to believe. Halp! What do?
f72ebc No.330611
>>330610
Also what's that lever thingy above the trigger in pic?
42de17 No.330613
f72ebc No.330619
>>330613
Like safe, semi, burst, full? Is it on both sides of the weapon? I know nothing about AK types but am getting this Vepr-12 soon.
16483a No.330626
>>330619
Just the right side.
You get Safe, the upward position, and fire, the downward position.
f59c1f No.330629
>>330610
>>330611
>>330613
>>330619
>>330626
>Discussion immediately goes from legal FFL practice to funswitches
You just keep on keeping on, /k/.
7ccfa8 No.330632
>>330610
Call the dealer you'll have it shipped to, confirm their procedure (and price).
>>330629
We should be mass mailing senators, represenatives and candidates for those offices about introducing a bill to repeal the NFA so we can have those fun switches. As soon as a bill is introduced, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards: Anyone RINO who tries opposing it will be instantly marked anti-funs and have a major ding in the election and the NRA can't keep up its quiet opposition to NFA repeal when the issue is in broad daylight,
fd563b No.330637
What's the cheapest rolling block action rifle I can buy?
230c50 No.330641
>>330231
You're thinking of copyright terms. Patents (at least in terms of lengths) have remained surprisingly unfucked by lobbyists. The international standard for patents is 20 years, including Belgium. Assuming the SCAR was patented in 2004, you'll only need to wait eight more years for non-FN ones to be produced.
f72ebc No.330642
>>330632
Ok so 1 call dealer, give them info on vendor and item, 2 buy item, 3 vendor ships to dealer, 4 I show up and pay their transfer fee and get my weapon.
Is that right?
eaa2bd No.330643
Does your internet history come up in a background check?
f72ebc No.330644
>>330643
Dunno who you're replying to but no. I've purchased a few weapons filling out a 4473. No crimes, no mental illness, nothing.
eaa2bd No.330645
>>330644
I'm not replying to anyone, that was a question.
f72ebc No.330646
>>330645
>that was a question
Okay…?
ec6d8b No.330649
>>330643
Not that i'm aware of but I dread the day such a thing becomes standard, for my own sake and the aspiring .mil applicants of the future.
>>330641
Funny thing is that I could easily imagine the SCARs 3rd party companies will shit would would look like pics related
eaa2bd No.330651
>>330646
So answer my fucking question, retard. If you don't have an answer then DON'T answer my question.
This is a questions that don't deserve their own thread thread. The entire thread isn't suddenly about you just because you've asked a question.
f72ebc No.330653
>>330651
Then your answer is an obvious no, dumbass. Until you've been sentenced to certain types of crimes or personal fallibilities (like getting a written order to go into a psych ward), then you can buy a firearm no matter if you've looked up lolis.
Holy shit.
eaa2bd No.330656
>>330653
Sorry about my reading comprehension.
Your response looked irrelevant for some reason. Possibly because you didn't talk about internet related things at all and just told me shit I already knew.
I need to get more sleep before I interact with people holy shit.
4dbbac No.330673
>>330656
Until you've been convicted of a felony (in most states) or been ordered into a mental hospital by a judge (in most states–these kinds of orders are almost always for criminal mentally unstable, harmful to others, offences; not because you cut yourself and cried), then you'll pass a 4473. The NSA may know you're into futa, and they may be able to share it with your local sheriff, but it won't prevent you from legally buying a firearm unless they v& you and get a conviction.
tl;dr if you've never been forcibly locked away by judge you're 99% fine with buying guns
7ccfa8 No.330683
>>330642
More or less. Some shops can take care of step 1 without a call if they know the store, but do it to be sure.
71bf56 No.331032
I bought a FN FNS9L for $600, did I do good?
3cfa46 No.331043
>>331032
Did you get anything with it, or just the gun?
bd465c No.331059
>>331043
It was brand new so it came with 3 mags and the case
3cfa46 No.331062
>>331059
Not too shabby then
7ccfa8 No.331066
>>331032
What kind of dollar?
bd465c No.331073
>>331062
I would have got the one with the blued slide but it wasn't worth the extra $100 to me. But regardless I'm really looking forward to getting my hands on it after it gets approved
>>331066
That would be syrupbux my friend
520cf3 No.331095
Why does /k/ meme about the FN SCAR?
53f4fe No.331101
>>330673
>sharing it
that would actually be explicitly illegal.
Technically, them sharing the information, well, at all, is super duper illegal.
Using it as a fishing expedition leaping off point only works because they pretend they never got the tip off. Otherwise, they'd never make it through a trial. Never.
e34978 No.331105
>>331101
You autist, it isn't illegal because the PATRIOT Act gives them explicit permission to do exactly that. You must be underage to not know how much the government loves fucking with you.
53f4fe No.331108
>>331105
Sharing it for purposes not related to the capture of FOREIGN terrorist organization related intelligence would be pretty illegal unless I misunderstand the law.
Considering that basically all the FISA court authorization they got hinged on them saying they were looking for terrorists from outside the US doing terrorist things.
Not weirdos jacking it to weird things.
But I mean yeah go ahead and just assume the government isn't breaking the law to fuck with us
e34978 No.331109
>>331108
You just contradicted yourself on levels I didn't know were possible. You may actually be autistic, dude.
Also.
>assuming .gov follows the laws
53f4fe No.331110
>>331109
uh, how fucking so?
Please explain because I'm saying I do believe it would be pretty illegal for them under the rules they set for themselves to take random non-criminal information or non-"national security" and give it out randomly to other agencies.
And no. I was implying that the government breaks the laws all the time and you were suggesting something that's really illegal (Fourth Amendment, let's cut the crap) was legal because they said so.
Mass surveillance is no more legal than free speech restrictions or gun bans.
b493a7 No.331112
>>331108
I'm sure more than a few local LEOs have gotten "anonymous tips" from NSA. I remember one of the justifications used in the media was:
Well, this is a major violation of privacy, but we're catching so many pedos and drug dealers, guise! Be grateful! You've nothing to hide right? We don't, either. Just file an FOIA request lol and we'll send you a black sheet of paper. Total transparency. We'd never lie to you :)
53f4fe No.331114
>>331112
Yeah, that's what I'm referring to, partially.
If people knew that someone was arrested on a "tip" from the NSA, it would never stand up to a jury trial.
88a789 No.331118
>>329661
Rerolling my question about the existence of three-piece gas rods.
9c8bf4 No.331121
>>331118
Its so it can be disassembled easier.
With a single piece piston the only way to disassemble it is to remove the gas plug and potentially slide the piston out through the hole in the gas block.
If its a two piece piton then to disassemble it you end up with a potential condition where under normal operation the piston can jam or come apart (you could have it disassemble the same way as the single piece piston but then there is no point of it being two pieces.
The three piece piston allows the piston to be removed without having to mess with the gas block but not allow under normal conditions the possibility of the piston getting stuck or coming out.
88a789 No.331122
>>331121
>If its a two piece piton then to disassemble it you end up with a potential condition where under normal operation the piston can jam or come apart
I just don't understand why. Doesn't the whole gas rod assembly come back the same distance either way? Why does a two-piece design run the risk of jamming or coming apart while a three-part doesn't?
Maybe I'm just retarded, but I don't get it.
53f4fe No.331123
>>331118
I'd have to see a gif of it for that design to make sense….
0183e4 No.331126
How useful would a folding grappling hook and a good length of rope would be in a role of a marksman etc in an urban environment to get to and from high ground and outflank the enemy?
88a789 No.331128
>>331123
If you mean short-stroke I have a gif. If you mean three-piece gas rods I'm as lost as you are.
53f4fe No.331129
>>331128
I mean three piece gas rods. I know shortstroke, fairly well. I've stripped a piston system before.
88a789 No.331130
>>331129
We can both be unenlightened then.
f3ddfa No.331132
53f4fe No.331133
>>331132
Distill some DXM?
or make some ETN, I guess.
Either will increase your chem-peen and learn you on some chemistry.
Both will also probably be fairly satisfying.
at least for me. Chemistry usually excites me more than peoples.
3cfa46 No.331134
>>331132
Learn a skill.
Read a book.
Learn/play an instrument.
Autistically plan out your SHTF survival plans.
Masturbate.
All solid options.
9c8bf4 No.331152
>>331122
Because for the two piece piston to be disassemblable (other than via the method for a single piece piston) it must have a stroke longer than the length of the nipple(?) on the gas block. This means that under normal operating conditions the piston is capable of stroking off the gas block and when it starts to rebound it can potentially not align properly and jam.
9c8bf4 No.331159
>>331152
>it must have a stroke longer than the length of the nipple(?) on the gas block
Should add, it can alternatively have loose tolerances where it slots into the receiver which would allow it to pivot out. This method of course has its own issues.
88a789 No.331170
>>331152
Right, I think I get it. Thanks.
>>331159
That's what I was thinking too. That you'd need some sort of pivot for the spring-guide piece to pivot out if you didn't want to have the two-piece assembly travel back over the full length of the nipple.
7ccfa8 No.331175
>>331132
Mail your elected officials and canidates for those offices telling them to introduce a bill to repeal the NFA. As soon as it's introduce the quiet opposition crumbles, and they are forced to be for it or against it.
88a789 No.331187
>>331175
Do it, Americabros. Don't be content to stop the advance of gun control; take back some territory!
8584bc No.331201
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Why don't they just have it tied to the trigger? When a trigger is pulled the gun is fired, action goes into the cocked position, and trigger springs back. Then the shooter pulls the trigger a second time to release the bolt.
Technically 2 trigger pulls per shot, but it's as close to semi auto as Australia will get.
00f1d1 No.331208
>>331132
reloading and bullet casting can be a fun hobby.
3cfa46 No.331316
>>331201
I can see someone modifying that to make tit an open bolt semiauto. Which will in turn become an open bolt full auto.
I think that if they thought of doing that, they thought what I thought and opted not to do it to keep from getting their shit b&.
16483a No.331378
>>331095
It's expensive and popular with aspiring mall-ninjas.
Mounting an optic above the path of the charging handle will impede reloading, the stock is a boot, and it offers very little over the AR-15/M16 platform.
9a334e No.331426
Might be working on a board culture thing soon.
Does 8/k/ have their own variant of a Board-tan?
da1d82 No.331448
>>329507
Can Nuggets withstand black powder cartridges?
42de17 No.331452
>>331448
Yes. They were originally build on BP and later updated to smokeless.
The Mosin action is overbuilt. It can take most loadings aside from Arisaka stronk loads.
42de17 No.331453
7ccfa8 No.331454
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>331448
Seems so. Accuracy takes a dive from lower speed though.
da1d82 No.331456
>>329935
I wish I had a Pocket Hammer 1903, they look so antique, beautiful, no other pistol that I can buy looks this good.
0e18f1 No.331472
>>331448
if it can take smokeless, it can take BP. Smokeless will develop a higher maximum pressure than BP for a given bullet weight and velocity
8584bc No.331528
>>331454
>lower speed
inconsistent loading*
636f08 No.331650
what is a good bipod that will not cost me a shitload ?
I have a keymod rail but i can always just use a pic rail section if there are no good keymod bipods or if they cost too much I dont really care.
be0161 No.331663
I'm probably going to get a pump action 12ga at some point in the near future so I don't accidentally my family and neighbors through the wall when Jamal and Tyrique break in and I have to remove them with an AK.
Problem is, I know very little about shotguns, and virtually nothing about shells. Are there any good resources for learning how to into shotguns and how to make CUHRAYZEE full retard reloads like dragon's breath and flechettes?
00f1d1 No.331664
aside from ammo costs, are there any reasons not to build a 300 blackout AR? does 5.56 outperform it in any way?
c39e80 No.331665
>>331134
…or, all at once.
>>331528
Just rest your rifle on some bags, sandbags, child-sized corpses, etc.
6aa431 No.331671
>>331663
I recommend #1 buck for something that will still wreck Tyrone but not go through walls. I'm sure someone here will disagree, which is fine, but it's what I've found digging through the internet. A load too light will just piss off the apes and not incapacitate them, though.
Does 7.62x39 shoot through walls? I've read many times here that 5.56 NATO is the perfect HD round and will not penetrate. Never researched it, personally.
a4a200 No.331673
>>331665
Not child size corpses, FUN size corpses
53f4fe No.331675
00f1d1 No.331681
>>331671
AK goes through walls easy. some say 5.56 will tumble, but i wouldn't count on it. apparently polymer tipped 5.7mm is actually pretty good about over-penetration.
7ccfa8 No.331682
>>331671
The Russians are apparently reconsidering their AK74s because they do shit for penetrating cover and using old 47s instead in places due to them being better. Most likely will go through walls.
6aa431 No.331688
>>331682
Do 47s use 7.62x45 and 74s use 7.62x39? I'm not an AK fag, I dunno the difference between the models.
00f1d1 No.331689
>>331688
ak47 uses 7.62x39
ak74 uses 5.45x39
341170 No.331690
>>331688
AK-47 is the rare limited production one with the milled receiver and 7.62x39. AKM is the mass produced one that everyone calls a 47. The difference being that it has a stamped sheet metal receiver.
AK-74 is only stamped and fires 5.45x39 because 5.56x45 scared the piss out of them.
636f08 No.332052
>>331690
"i am a russian engineer and i know why the round was designed trust me guys"
b033bc No.332132
If I move from a registry-less state (Alabama) to a state requiring handgun registration (Michigan), would I have to register it? From what I understand, the registration is done at the time of sale, but I'm not certain about that.
89e59f No.332133
>>332052
>similar round comes out suspiciously soon after we adopt 5.56
>lol u don't know why it was made
6aa431 No.332155
>>331690
>>332052
>>332133
Can someone explain what's going on? I am so confus.
ece376 No.332157
>>332133
>objectively better in literally all possible ways
>lol their scared they wanna join teh club xD
>ten years
>suspiciously soon
89e59f No.332164
>>332157
I'm not saying either is better, I am saying that they perform similarly. If anything I'd pick 5.45 any day simply because I don't like ARs, but claiming 5.56 had no influence on 5.45 is fucking retarded.
ece376 No.332166
>>332164
And .357 Magnum influenced 10mm, but it's not a copy, just like 5.45 isn't a copy of 5.56. The bullet shape, size, and weight, the case length, the capacity, and the ballistics are all very different. The only thing they have in common whatsoever is being vaguely similar sized intermediate rifle cartridges developed in the 20th century.
89e59f No.332167
>>332166
Neither of the people you are arguing with said it was a copy
ece376 No.332169
>>332167
You said it was a similar round jumping on a bandwagon right after the other one.
That's synonymous to copying.
ece376 No.332171
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>>332169
Or maybe I'm being autistic, pardon me if so but that's really how your post read
b7f5b4 No.332175
Russia's high-velocity-low-weight program started in response to the US's, and it probably wouldn't have gone further if Soviet observers hadn't seen the effectiveness of 5.56 in Vietnam.
neat short article
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/01/10/5-45x39-small-but-perfect-a-history-of-development/
anyone that talks down arms development for "copying" is an idiot. you don't ignore innovations because LOL NO CHEATING.
>>332157
> objectively better!
objectively almost exactly the same
ece376 No.332182
>>332175
>l-l-look, 5.45 has close to the same drop, even though it's less, that means they're identical!
You are why people don't believe in science anymore.
b7f5b4 No.332183
>>332182
sorry I didn't respond to your dumbshit claim with a dissertation? you sure aren't making one
ece376 No.332186
>>332183
>round A being better than round B at their normal roles is a "dumbshit claim"
>"round A is completely equal to round B" while posting things that actually disprove that is somehow not a dumbshit claim
Here's your response, shitpost-kun.
e4e521 No.332188
Is there any real disadvantage to a polymer receiver?
ece376 No.332189
>>332188
They have lower tolerances for impact, pressure, and several other factors, and overall service life is generally far lower compared to that of a steel receiver of similar quality.
b7f5b4 No.332196
>>332186
i gave you room to post your "information" and you shitpost again.
here's the reality: the only appreciable difference was the Russians adopted long ogive bullets first, which the US now uses too.
you're not going to see some magical power from that case architecture, the fat ass on it is for better use with steel cases and feeding/extraction reliability. 5.56 has 1.5 grain better case volume but loses some of that to modern long bullets, which the 5.45 has front room for.
>>332188
prob can't pass it down to your grandkids, might smell like a dead rat in 30 years, I'd be worried about later service life cracking since that only shows up after many years
00f1d1 No.332211
>>332188
prone to cracking over time. get aluminum. still lightweight compared to steel, but it'll hold up.
67efe3 No.332371
fbd0cd No.332403
8584bc No.332419
>>331671
>Does 7.62x39 shoot through walls?
The original round does, moreso than any other intermediate cartridge at least.
Yugoslavs improved on the round, and their variant isn't as stable in terminal ballistics.
>>331690
>AK-74 is only stamped and fires 5.45x39 because 5.56x45 scared the piss out of them.
Wasn't it because VDV wanted a lighter round?
1fd721 No.332466
>>332188
Aside from what people already mentioned, low temperatures are bad for polymer. It gets brittle at sub-zero temps, and the brittleness can lead to it breaking easily. AR180b are popular up here, but when people take them out in the winter, the receiver can crack during use, if dropped or bashed, or when field stripping.
I think high temperatures can also cause damage to them, polymer degrades faster in hot weather. Don't leave it sitting in the sun on a summer day and it should be fine.
f59c1f No.332470
>>332132
>>332371
You have to send the pistol to an FFL in Michigan, and I believe you have to register it before picking it up.
e57221 No.332487
Didn't see an enlisted/enlistment thread, so I guess this goes here
Do any anons (preferably bongistanis) have experience or advice on cheating the system? I've been looking into pursuing a career with the armed forces but due to several >autism and >suicide attempt details I'd be unable. I'm guessing that if I enlist my medical records would be checked and I'd be denied, so is there any way to force an exception or spoof it?
>t. GCHQ
67efe3 No.332511
>>332487
>I've been looking into pursuing a career with the armed forces
stopped reading there
e57221 No.332518
>>332511
th-thanks
Whaddya have against HRH's men, you yankee fuck?
da3497 No.332519
a8fe16 No.332550
If I get diagnosed with depression am I not allowed to buy guns anymore?
a8fe16 No.332552
If I get diagnosed with depression am I not allowed to buy guns anymore?
a8fe16 No.332553
>>332550
>>332552
god fucking damnit hotwheels
3cfa46 No.332556
>>332550
>>332552
>>332553
I was diagnosed and medicated for it for a long ass time. I currently own 5 guns.
That should answer your question.
20dc3b No.332580
What's the cheapest, decent .22 supressor? My dad is getting into guns (finally) and really wants to suppress his Beretta U22 Neos.
da3497 No.332584
>>332580
Sorry I don't know much about suppressors but I had to google that gun and holy shit it looks like a fucking space gun.
Like I'm pretty sure I've seen this in at least 2 sci-fi movies.
GG, Strelok's Dad. That rich asshole.
24de3d No.332587
>>332580
I know this doesn't answer your question but he can get subsonic rounds. I don't remember the brand (this was about 10yrs ago) but all I could hear was the cycling. They were expensive for .22LR,though.
20dc3b No.332591
>>332584
He got his for cheap. Came with the carbine kit, too. He's a cop, so most gun shops give him sick deals. Took me years to get him into shooting, but now he's really digging it.
ffcf27 No.332666
Hey /k/, /tech/ie here. I have been considering joining up with the military. I have a college degree and knowledge in computer security. This means that I have a shot at getting into an officer academy and going with the officer life.
What is /k/'s experience as an officer in the armed forces, and what are the chances of actually getting into a cyber security position in the military?
7e7259 No.332676
>>332666
The academy is much harder to get into than ROTC. I'm assuming you have your BA/BS. Typically both paths are for pursuing 4yr degrees. They have accelerated programmes (in ROTC, anyhow; I know almost nothing about academy) for certain specialties or levels of attainment (for instance if you're a lawyer and they need JAGs). They may pay for you getting your masters while doing a 2yr programme. As far as going directly into OCS, that's different for each branch.
Don't talk to an enlisted recruiter, they don't know and don't care about helping officer candidates. I'd visit your preferred branch's website for contacts or call an ROTC cadre. I haven't fiddled with that stuff in 16yrs and after 2yrs of ROTC decided it wasn't for me.
Good luck.
0327b7 No.332888
So, I know that the Walther P1 is very picky about the ammo it eats
It was recommended to me that I use 115gr 9mm FMJ rounds but I want to use something more suited for defense
Are there any effective defensive 115gr JHP rounds that my gun will eat properly?
Everything that looks like it might feed has little to no expansion when it hits it's target when I delve into reviews/research
Bonus question; what purpose do nickle plated rounds serve?
0e7bcb No.332917
Anyone have any experience with the Tristar T-100? I am looking into a CZ platform to carry and this pistol has great reviews. I don't want the IWI Baby Eagle compact it's a clone of since I don't want to support IWI. Not that a Turkish gun is that much better but I could live with it. Out of the box it seems more suitable to EDC then a CZ 75B compact (lighter, slimmer, less hard edges, I wouldn't have to modify it to get hammer down safety). It seems like it also has the ability to accept most of the upgrades from the 75 compact.
I am also considering the Rami 2075 which is marginally lighter but has a 0.7" shorter barrel and less grip area.
What would be your preferred EDC in a CZ platform, plastic frames excluded.
0e7bcb No.332921
>>332917
I am also looking at the new P-01 Omega since you can add a manual safety and presumably modify it to do safety on with hammer down but it's considerably more heavy than both of the others. Full disclosure this will be my first EDC and I hear that width is more important than weight.
a8fe16 No.333044
>>332556
thanks strelok, I hope youre doing good now
140081 No.333056
Random errant question:
Every so often in a thread, a picture of a rifle pops up proped up on a counter.
Bolt-action, polished smooth wood furniture without any indentions, and a barrel short enough to the point it barely goes past the forestock. Also no optics on it.(Thought I had saved the picture, I was wrong)
To anyone that knows, any idea of the brand and model?
fc2c49 No.333059
Are 7.62 SLR-107s still a good buy? There's one new at my LGS. Sights are good, sidefolding full stock, side rail, for $985 and some change. I have a ton of 7.62 AK mags and misc parts, and it's definitely something i want. I kinda wanna sink some dumb money in it and grab some zenitco.
0ab048 No.333071
I have a .17hmr bolt-action rifle I got as a gift when I was younger. It doesn't have irons and the scope needs to be realigned. I don't have a boresighter to get it lined up with the barrel. I went to a local gunshop and they had a .17hmr boresighter but it was $50. Looked around online and cheapest I found was $40. I saw .22 boresighter for like $20 though. Would that work?
It's the only gun I have and I'd like to get into this stuff but tbh I feel like I should just trade it in for credit on another gun and get something that would be more fun to shoot. I already have experience with shooting and maintaining rifles just not ever one of my own.
7ccfa8 No.333109
Where can I buy a mossberg patriot magazine for 308? Mossberg and the place I normally shop are sold out.
89e59f No.333114
7ccfa8 No.333124
dd3bbd No.333128
Just got a KSG for $800 from my LGS. What's your experience with this weapon? Worth it or will I be selling it soon?
0e7bcb No.333134
dd3bbd No.333141
>>333134
Yeah I know about those issues. Kel-Tec makes a hand stop for $10 + it is a rare accident pls dont happen to me
and short stroke doesn't really bother me. Just gotta remember to go all the way with it. I'm holding off on my judgement till I can take it out, but I'm interested in you guys' opinions.
25510c No.333152
>>330096
>What sling should I get for my AK?
One of those $8 surplus ones
>What holster should I get?
How are you going to carry your gun?
>How do I make my own kydex shit?
Buy kydex and a heat gun
>What's a good battle belt?
HSGI is good i think
57c291 No.333182
>>333128
Absolutely love mine. Certainly turns heads on the range. It sucks to reload, so not really much of a go into battle gun, then again shotguns arent really all that good for that anyways. Certainly fun though, thats for sure. 22+1 if you use those dumb aguila mini shells.
dd3bbd No.333190
>>333182
yeah I know! that capacity is amazing
c63f3a No.333191
What's the best rifle that is realistic for defense/hunting in a shtf or wrol scenario?
da3497 No.333192
>>333191
Intermediate caliber carbine. Your choice whether that's AR or AKM.
Both will put down deer and people just fine.
49c719 No.333194
>>333128
>>333134
Holy shit that is horrifying. Been planning on buying one for shits and giggles and now I'm probably going put something to stop my hand on the end of that rail and look like a retard out of fear I'm that stupid to slip
3190a8 No.333209
>>329507
I'm planning to build an AR-15, /k/.
It's a budget build so I've been shopping around and I think I've got it to about as low cost as possible.
Anderson Arms Stripped Lower 7075-T6 -
http://www.primaryarms.com/anderson-manufacturing-stripped-lower-7075-t6-multi-cal/p/kt-ar-15-a3/%20-%20anderson%20stripped%20lower%20-%20$49.99
PTAC 16" 1:7 M4 Rifle Kit - 23898 -
http://palmettostatearmory.com/ptac-16-1-7-m4-rifle-kit.html
D&H 5.56 30rd Aluminum Magazines -
http://palmettostatearmory.com/d-h-5-56-30rd-aluminum-magazine-8416.html
Haven't decided on the rear sight, but it seems like a mag pull flip up sight is the cheapest.
Am I missing anything? Any critiques or budget minded recommendations?
dd3bbd No.333210
00f1d1 No.333224
>>331664
anyone got an answer for me on this one?
c63f3a No.333228
In a Henry lever action .22, what does the spring located in the bolt that retains the firing pin do exactly? How important and necessary is this component of the gun? What if the spring is gone?hi
71bf56 No.333233
i was planning on getting a hammerfired semi auto pistol for my next fun and i had a browning hi power in mind. Would an inglis made hi power be a decent choice? or are there other better made hi powers?
da3497 No.333236
>>333233
Go FN.
Last I saw FN Hi Powers were around $200-$300 on impactguns.
71bf56 No.333239
>>333236
well when the time comes that will probably be the choice as im sure those are the most common ones anyway.
thatll be my second FN cause i got a FNS9L on the way
0e7bcb No.333245
>>333224
There a few reasons to run 300 BLK:
- Heavier subsonic bullets for running a suppressor
- Less back blowback with a suppressor
- Better performance out of a SBR
- Local hunting laws prohibit .223
It's effectively an overpriced 7.62x39 round for the AR platform. .223 is a better medium distance round and even in CQC with proper ammo it can perform better due to tumbling causing muh wound channels.
00f1d1 No.333248
>>333245
cool. think i'll stick to 5.56. not a hunter, have no suppressor or sbr.
thanks.
16483a No.333253
>>333236
Please look at the flag, Anon, I'm fairly sure that Canadians cannot order from an American gun shop.
71bf56 No.333255
3cfa46 No.333262
>>333044
Thanks. I actually am doing a lot better now. Lots of help from family and friends, etc etc, that whole meme. Just remember on any bad days you might have that it does get better.
0ab85b No.333277
What's the longest mag tube extender you can get for a remington 870?
What's a good SA/DA pistol in .45 acp? I was looking at the Glock 21, FN FNX-45, and the CZ 97. I'm open to other options/manufacturers, but I want to stick with .45.
Any thoughts on those three guns?
9c8bf4 No.333308
Are there any /k/ommandos here have QuickLoad and are willing to do a few quick simulations?
>>333224
300BLK suppressed SBR owner here.
Basically what this guy said >>333245, its great in SBRs (supersonic loads have ~30% more energy than 5.56 for any given barrel length) with suppressors (because you can get 230+gr bullets for subsonic loads), but its not worth it if you have a 16" unsuppressed rifle. Factory ammo is expensive but handloading can get the cost down to near 5.56 levels and the brass can be made from 5.56 brass.
00f1d1 No.333352
>>333308
yeah, i was thinking i'd feed it with handloads, but since i don't mind the length and the BANG, it doesn't seem worth it.
0ab85b No.333463
999ffb No.333469
Why do people hate on Hi Points? Are they shit quality?
619b7c No.333472
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>333469
They're surprisingly durable, and insanely cheap, but are just about the least luxurious firearm being produced. Hickock45's review of it (embed related) has a good overview on the numerous drawbacks.
The Hi-Point C9 barely works, but it does work.
999ffb No.333474
>>333472
Oh, so they're good, quality guns but not show off material?
it's the gun version of a McChicken
0e7bcb No.333482
>>333474
Don't let gun grampa fool you, he is just incapable of legitimately hating any gun (I know someone will post some vid to prove me wrong, bring it on). Hi Points are incredibly top heavy since they are blowback operated instead of recoil operated like, I don't know, every other fucking semi auto on the market. It has a polymer frame while the slide is ridiclously heavy making the gun unbalanced as shit. The slide is super stiff, they have terrible sights. The only positive thing that can be said about them is they are durable and are able to fire a bullet.
619b7c No.333500
>>333482
The blowback operation and polymer frame are to keep costs down.
Basically, Hi-Point's entire philosophy behind their handguns is to sacrifice tact and ease-of-use in favor of reliability and cost.
You can imagine a golden triangle of handguns; choose no more than two:
>Low-cost
>Durable
>Operation-and-overall-design-that-doesn't-want-to-make-you-stab-your-eyes-out-ness
Whereas most makers opt for the last two, Hi-Point chose the first two.
0abd67 No.333523
File: 1458236066027.jpg (378.75 KB, 2050x1300, 41:26, AKM_automatkarbin,_Rysslan….jpg)

>>333500
And here we see a fine example of all 3.
3cfa46 No.333525
>>333523
If only the AKM were a handgun
14ee31 No.333662
What is the camo the leftmost solider is wearing?
a61060 No.333677
14f3d5 No.333699
Can I use 6.5 Creedmoor in a .308 (Armalite incompatible) drum magazine?
32c2fc No.333700
>>333662
Looks like one of the Digiflora variants.
7ccfa8 No.333701
911fa2 No.333708
>>333662
EMR, aka Digital Flora. I've also heard it called EMR Summer, Tsifra, Tetris, etc.
http://camopedia.org/index.php?title=Russia
0e7bcb No.333748
>>332917
>>332921
Shameless bump for an answer. Surely someone carries a CZ of some sort?
25510c No.333810
>>333482
This isn't true at all.
The gun balances okay. It's not great but not horrible. The sights are just as good as any stock glock or M&P or whatever painted 3 dot sights there are out there.
The slide is actually VERY easy to operate.
I don't think you've ever actually held one, let alone shot one.
Hell the only negative thing about hi-points are their magazine capacity and weight.
53f4fe No.333813
d7ec3c No.333821
>>332917
You could go with the CZ 75d PCR. It's an aluminum frame so it cuts down on the weight and it has less sharp edges than some of the other models. It even has a sanded groove to let your finger rest against the gun. It's slightly fatter than a Glock 19 and they aren't as compact as RAMI's.
But it's safety feature is a decocker instead of a manual safety, to make up for this the trigger pull on the double action is 11~ lbs instead of the single action 5ish lbs. I found they tend to be fairly rare, so you may need to order online and you need to buy aftermarket grips to get them slimmed down, but the checkered cocobolo wood grips you can get are very nice. Also, their magazines are kind of expensive.
0e7bcb No.333842
>>333810
Guilty as charged, I have not personally handled one and was parroting an aggregation of reviews I've come across over the years.
Are the gritty trigger and slide bite not as big of an issue as people make it out to be? From the pictures it certainly looks like a high grip has little stopping it. One thing is certain, I find it unredeemably ugly. I am normally a function over form sort of guy but even I have my limits.
>>333821
The 75D PCR is what I really want except that damn decocker. The P-01 has the rail which I would not use so it's extra width, weight, and edges. The T-100 is an ounce lighter, comes with 15 round mags vs 14, both are aluminum frames and steel slides. The only thing holding me back is that the T-100's front sights seem to be non-standard and since it's a Baby Eagle clone the there are far less IWB options.
aeea6a No.333848
I have a Walther CCP. I really like it, has fired hundreds of rounds with no issue. The only thing I don't like is the trigger is so gritty and is a pretty long pull. IIRC this is a common problem in striker-fired pistols, no? Can/should it be modified? At least the grit, I can live with a long pull; though I feel it's pretty excessive, especially considering it has an external safety switch. It has both internal and external safeties.
Pic related, it's me and my bitch.
0327b7 No.333879
>>333813
Just get one of these
http://www.unclemikes.com/holsters/concealed-carry-holsters/inside-the-pant-holsters
Sold at most funstores
I use mine both for concealed carry in the pants and in my jacket's inside "gun pocket"
25510c No.333880
>>333842
>Are the gritty trigger and slide bite not as big of an issue as people make it out to be?
The trigger isn't the best but it's very manageable. It's kind of heavy but it actually breaks pretty crisp. And I think only very skilled target shooters would have any real accuracy issue caused by it.
And I've never heard of the slide bite issue before it clears my hand by a lot. I don't know if you could even get bit by the slide if you were trying.
The reason I think it's a shitty gun though is the capacity like I said. I mean there's no reason at all for the fucking thing to have 8 rounds. Would it really cost them that much more money to make a double stack one with how huge the gun already is?
0327b7 No.333881
>>333879
Apparently you can also buy them direct on that site
I use mine with a big ol' Walther P1 while I do landscaping so I know they work pretty well
036c66 No.333890
>>333880
Hi-points are the greatest airport gun on the planet. They're also good groomsmen's gifts. If you like to fuck around with guns, they're good for that. Now, they're not super accurate or made from the highest quality materials, but they work. At the end of the day, they're better than no gun at all.
8e451e No.333891
>>333890
>airport gun
>groomsmen's gifts
wut
d5afd2 No.333892
>>333891
Airport gun: A gun you keep in your carry-on so you can declare it and have all your luggage checked in a separate line by people who won't take your shit.
Groomsman gift: A gift given to the groomsmen by the groom at a wedding as a token of appreciation for their services throughout the wedding as well as a token to remember the wedding by.
8e451e No.333893
>>333892
I'm not familiar with US airport firearms regs. No, I'm not a nigger of any colour and I'm a citizen. German expat from 8yrs ago . Are you saying you can take firearms in your carry-on? I assume that means no ammunition. I don't understand why you'd get a cheap gun if an expensive one would also pass through security and no concern about TSA chimps taking it. Btw, fuck them. Worst fucking experiences I've had with your nigger airport paid thieves and rude-ass animals on a flight through Atlanta.
And why get a good friend an ugly, poor-handling firearm to congratulate his wedding? I don't understand your logic in all this.
00f1d1 No.333894
>>333893
not in your carry-on. you have to check it. so if you declare that you're checking a gun along with your other luggage, you get a different, shorter line. you wouldn't want to do this with an expensive gun in case the airlines lose your luggage.
036c66 No.333895
>>333893
I'm incorrect, it's a gun you keep in your luggage. You can have a gun in your suitcase if it's in a secure, locked container and kept separate from ammo, which must be in its own container. I don't believe the ammo needs a lock. Regardless, this gun can be as nice as you want it to be, but I recommend a shitty gun since you can keep it in a locked container constantly and simply toss the box in your suitcase when you need to go fly somewhere. Avoid the dropouts of the majority of the TSA with this trick. I believe the people that check your gun are with a different agency entirely, but may be wrong. I've done it once after a friend recommended this trick to me.
As for using it as a gift, it's something of a joke. At the very least, it's a pretty good chance that your friends don't have a Hi-Point in their collection.
8e451e No.333902
>>333895
I remember seeing something that firearms must be declared. Don't recall details. I haven't flown in a while, so for all I know that's been nixed. I was mad those niggers took my unopened water bottles when liquids were no goes, yet they neglected to notice (and I forgot I had) about 30 match packs in my backpack.
Thank god USA is massive. If I move, I'll just fucking drive rather than let a nigger pilfer my weapons to kill locals over fried chicken. Our airports are fucking disgusting. Jesus I could rant all day.
182610 No.333917
>>333879
Danke, that wasn't what I asked for but it was what I needed, actually.
>>333902
I'm no export but I've been on a total of about 20+ flights.
You MUST declare your firearm, it must be in a locked container, and the ammo must be less than a certain amount and in a separate container.
Also, they weren't worried about your matches because those could start a fire but that's ok.
The bottles could have contained a liquid explosive and been carefully resealed.
I know just enough to tell you that that much liquid explosive (xylitol penta-nitrate slurry, nitroglycerin, astrolite, MEKP) could have cut the plane in fucking half.
But yeah, airports suck. And the security still has holes. They patched most up using body scanners but plenty still exist.
9fcbe8 No.333946
I've been looking at getting a Galil and was wondering what's best for the money.
I already know I get a Golani for $800 but I haven't exactly heard great things about Century Arms.
5cc0c7 No.333968
>>333946
Don't trust the Golani. Get a parts kit and find a guy to build it right. It will serve you better in the long run.
d7ec3c No.333976
>>333277
>>What's the longest mag tube extender you can get for a remington 870?
Seems like an 8 round extension is the highest it will go.
Have no idea on the .45 ACP pistols but you could go with a Smith & Wesson in .45 ACP over the Glock. I found CZs are always good choices despite how their steel frames can get tiresome and sometimes the edges on them tend to be sharp.
fe62b2 No.334110
I don't know if this sort of question deserves its own thread or not. I'll let other people decide that:
WHAT THE FUCK IS THE DEAL WITH 7.62x54r?
I swear to fucking god I cannot find cheap surplus ammo of this round fucking anywhere. You faggots told me that slavshit guns are supposed to be cheap to shoot, and now I can't find anything for less than 250$ for a box of 500? What the hell? Even the brass for reloading that I've seen so far is pretty god damn expensive - hell, buying the brass on its own seems to be more expensive because you end up spending around as much money for just the brass, and then you've still gotta buy the fucking primers and powder and bullets.
I mean I can understand that the rounds would be more expensive right now because of what's been happening in the Eastern Bloc with Ukraine and Russia, but even the fucking brass is expensive? Seriously? What do you guys do who have guns that fire this round? Should I just get a gun that uses .308?
3cfa46 No.334164
>>334110
54r is going up because of the nugget meme. Nuggets are being bought up, and because of that, 54r consumption is going up, which means there's less surplus 54r to go around, which inflates prices.
It doesn't help that guns like VEPRs are so popular either.
Long story short, surplus of just about everything is drying up, and causing prices to go up because of it.
f40667 No.334170
>>334164
Yeah and because of the ATF and their stupid laws we won't see surplus modern rifles on the market for quite some time.
>tfw no $300 M16
a980e4 No.334238
I have this beret and I think it's either from my uncle when he was in the boy scouts or from my grandfather in Rhodesia.
Can someone figure it out please?
58ba1e No.334262
>>333976
Well, technically you could get that weird revolving extension. I think it holds 12 shells, 3 per side.
e0da67 No.334280
I just bought a plate carrier with level III steel plates. Should I buy a helmet to go with this? If so, what kind of helmet can I get that's not horribly expensive, doesn't look like absolute dogshit, and has at least some ballistic protection? Do I need a ballistic helmet even?
Also, are there are /k/ related morale patches out there? The /k/ patch is sold out, and the Weapons Grade Waifus Tap, Rack, Bang patch is sold out as well.
951f38 No.334286
e0da67 No.334288
>>334286
Holy fuck, boys. Thank you.
f5ae8f No.334336
So this fag said he has an AS50 that he took from his prior military service, and the military "just forgot about." I dunno branch or MOS, but he mentioned being in sand box and has some script tattoos and PTSD and couldn't stfu about his guns and hardcoreness to a total stranger. How full of shit is he that a several thousand dollar anti-matériel rifle missing was just whatever to his command?
951f38 No.334359
>>334336
I'm not too familiar with military procedure either, but I'm pretty sure weaponry like that is issued at the beginning of deployment and must be accounted for (e.g. returned, lost, etc.) at the end. He would have had to lie about the weapon's status to have it afterward.
Also, I severely doubt he could have smuggled a thirty pound, six foot anything back without anyone noticing.
4b0c16 No.334361
>>334336
>How full of shit is he
100% full of shit.
>that a several thousand dollar anti-matériel rifle missing was just whatever to his command?
Significantly more than 100% full of shit.
0ab85b No.334364
>>333976
>Smith & Wesson in .45 ACP
I'm pretty new to pistols. Can you point me in the direction of the model you happen to be referring to?
I'm pretty set on a .45 mostly because I live in the people's republic of Maryland.
Not a lot lot sense in getting a piece that can hold way more than 10 rounds when it's going to be a royal bitch to find those mags.
25510c No.334365
>>334110
>but even the fucking brass is expensive? Seriously?
Yeah nigger. Brass is expensive and it takes a lot of time and money to set up all the tooling to make an uncommon type of brass few people will end up buying.
0ab85b No.334369
Going to a gun show in the AM. Basically going to look for more AK mags. Last time I paid $7/each for 10 for some what I believe are tapco 30 round mags. If I can find the same guy at the show tomorrow, should I buy more at that price?
I'm mostly only going to hopefully pick up a drum mag or two and probably some ammo so I won't have to get raped on shipping charges. Any ideas on other things I should look for while I'm there?
f5ae8f No.334370
>>334359
>>334361
I was thing he's full of shit. I've heard of infantry having a lot of M16 STANAG mags in personal possession, which I can see as being more realistic than an entire firearm.
"I have PTSD"
No you're just a faggot. I can't understand how anyone could get away with a weapon, be it an M9 pistol or bayonet. It seemed very strange. I'm not ex-mil, either.
923b6b No.334510
pardner for $230 or used 835 ulti-mag for $250?
I'm leaning towards the ulti-mag
e56ae3 No.334569
What's a good air rifle for varmint hunting? I want something I can kill squirrels and voles with, hopefully at least at 40 yards. I ain't too concerned with cost
d7ec3c No.334583
>>334364
It seems like Maryland will allow you to use handguns without a thumb safety, so Maryland has atleast that going for it.
Was referring to the S&W M&P 45 series, there's a whole slew of variants, some with different colored frames and safeties on them.
>>334262
Holy shit, this thing is wacky.
1e0a66 No.334749
>>334569
air rifles are only good to about 40 yards really, unless you're using a big heavy bullet
d081d7 No.334752
>>329789
Is there a snowball's chance in hell of getting a surplus k98 for a reasonable price, or are modern reproductions the only real option?
584deb No.334765
>>329754
MF isn't bad. I've come across a few of their articles over the years that had some omissions or mistakes, but otherwise it's top notch.
My only other complain is I wish they'd make indexing by nation in each category.
eb3a76 No.334825
Did anyone ever order from this guy? I've ordered a few things off his website a year and a half ago, had time to move, he responds sporadically to my emails and gives me excuses like "it should be in the mail, looks like ill have to re-do the order" and shit like this.
Any thoughts?
http://www.smith-sights.com/
e44dc5 No.334842
>have SR9c
>magazine springs are losing tension
>jams are frequent at range
>ruger doesn't sell magazine springs
>no aftermarket SR9 magazine springs
>no idea if other magazine springs are compatible
I bought a new magazine and its spring tension is so great that it puts my original ones to shame.
What do I do with the other magazines? I want to replace them but I don't see any out there. MEC-GAR doesn't sell any. Brownells doesn't have any. Am I stuck with failing springs or do I have to ship them back to Ruger?
e44dc5 No.334843
>>334842
> I want to replace them
*I want to replace their springs
42de17 No.334845
>>334842
Make a new spring.
16483a No.334873
>>334510
Pardner is a better-than-Remington 870 knockoff that can take 870 accessories.
It also has a cool humpback receiver like a Browning Auto-5.
25510c No.334880
>>334842
How many rounds have you put through that magazine?
b11ceb No.334886
was 'voluntarily' committed to a psych ward for a week over a misunderstanding, can i still get a texas handgun permit?
0ab85b No.334890
>>334886
If by "voluntarily" you mean you chose to go, you should probably be fine. That said, I don't live in Texas, and there's probably a website you can check that shit out on. If you went against your will, or you were court ordered to go to a psych ward, you might be fucked. Check out your local laws. Everything should be available online.
9c8bf4 No.334909
Gerber LM2, decent survival knife?
767aa5 No.334917
9c8bf4 No.334919
>>334917
Whats better? don't want to spend massive amount of money on it and selection is kinda limited here.
767aa5 No.334920
9c8bf4 No.334921
>>334920
1.5x the cost of the Gerber
9c8bf4 No.334923
>>334921
By the way, already have a **Gerber (yes I know but I couldn't afford a Leatherman when I brought it) multi tool so I am just after a knife.
9c8bf4 No.334925
>>334923
>fucked up my spoiler
fug
767aa5 No.334926
extreme environment? or just some forest trekking?
9c8bf4 No.334927
>>334926
>extreme environment?
Those don't exist here so no
>or just some forest trekking?
I guess, also inna-city SHTF
923b6b No.334928
>>334873
I already own one I was just wondering where my money would be better spent
767aa5 No.334929
>>334927
i would get yourself an ordinary full-tang knife, length to your needs, nothing real special. then a small utility axe.
there are a lot of variations of a small useful itility hatchet, and they are nice in the bush. some are even balanced well for throwing.
but given a single choice only, i would take just a utility hatchet, they are very, very useful.
9c8bf4 No.334931
>>334929
Oh cool, I hadn't thought of that but it seems like the most logical choice.
619759 No.334932
>>331201
They are dealing with our retarded laws so they are better off making it a separate control, that way they can claim it should be classed as the "bolt handle".
767aa5 No.334933
>>334931
don't get me wrong. there are a good number of knife makers out there with very nice and durable features. but at your budget with sporting needs, a somewhat cheeky knife will do the job, and will get you by. utility features are a godsend when trekking.
fe5605 No.334949
I'm 19 and I want my first handgun, but I can't purchase my own until I'm 21. If I get somebody else to "gift" one to me, can I transport it as long as it's unloaded?
7ccfa8 No.334952
>>334949
Straw purchase is illegal anon.
00f1d1 No.334963
fe5605 No.334967
>>334963
PA
>>334952
federal law only prohibits ownership of a handgun if you're under 18
b9a68b No.334970
>>334949
Not really.The feds would probably consider that a straw purchase, and if you get caught with it you go to jail and forfeit the right to gun ownership.Just wait the two years you impatient fuckhead.
>>334967
Federal law also says all handguns must be registered to the owner, but you can't legally register one if you're under 21.
ef7cc6 No.334978
>>334949
>can own by 18
>can't buy until 21
Why do lawmakers do this?
Check this out for laws in PA, it should have everything you need. http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/pennsylvania.pdf
fe5605 No.335003
>>334970
According to PA law, I can own and transport an unloaded handgun at 18.
PA law then prevents you from buying one from a dealer until you're 21, but I found that transfers between parents and children are legal.
3f2fe3 No.335006
What's the relationship between Firearms Policy Coalition and Firearms Policy Foundation, and are they good? Also, which should I join, CGF or CRPA?
>>333209
PTAC has a reputation for being pretty shitty, fwiw.
>>334110
>>334164
Plus the Ukrainians want it more than we do right now.
cb75eb No.335013
>>334238
post more pics from different angles, look for small holes on the front
80d07f No.335018
>>334949
If someone gifts it to you, that's fine, but if someone "gifts" it to you, that's a straw purchase and you're both facing years in federal prison if the feds find out.
However, that only applies if you purchase from an FFL. Most (all?) states allow people under 21 to purchase from private sellers with no further restrictions than any other gun.
As far as transportation, pretty much every state is different.
8f4297 No.335022
>>333128
>>333134
>>333141
>>333194
I don't own a single kel tec firearm and don't plan on buying one, but if a forward grip fell off while he was pumping (Read the first paragraph of TFA and dropped it) what the fuck was his finger doing on the trigger? That's honestly my only question.
cb75eb No.335029
>>334919
>>334921
Why not Mora? its cheap and the steel is good
8426fb No.335030
In the second ammendment, when it says "a well regulated militia", are the drafters writing with only this in mind? They do say the right of the people to bear arms, however is this in context with a well regulated militia? I do support the second ammendment and own guns, I'm just trying to wrap my head around the legal meanings. Pls no bully
712668 No.335032
>>335030
Read the whole fucking thing, you idiot.
The militia is composed of every citizen.
8426fb No.335034
>>335032
Just automatically every citizen is a member of the militia? This is assumed in the ammendment?
80d07f No.335035
>>335030
In modern, clear wording:
Because a nation needs an army to defend itself, citizens have the right to arm themselves in protection against said army.
Keep in mind the context of when it was written. The U.S. had just finished fighting a war against an unjust militia comprised of British forces. They knew that the time might come again when it would be necessary to wage war against their illegitimate government and rebel. Also I just realized I'm basically rehashing this P&T webm.
>>335032
Also wrong. With your line of thinking, bullshit arguments like "the National Guard is the militia" can be made.
3f2fe3 No.335044
>>335032
>>335034
This is unnecessarily venomous, and there is nothing in the text of the Constitution itself supporting the idea of the militia as all able-bodied men ages 18-50 or whatever. But primary sources strongly suggest that this is what the Founders had in mind, and a good few modern-day legal scholars adhere to this interpretation, notably Akhil Reed Amar. Clayton Cramer's website has the primary text of a number of state militia acts which explicitly say things like "the militia shall be all able-bodied men ages whatever-whatever, each shall be responsible for providing a musket, haversack, powder, and 24 musket balls, etc. etc." See http://www.claytoncramer.com/primary/primary.html#MilitiaLaws
>>335035
>Because a nation needs an army to defend itself, citizens have the right to arm themselves in protection against said army.
This was Scalia's interpretation in the Heller majority and is currently law of the land. I think it accurately captures a good reason that people should be armed, and I'm thankful it's on the books, but it strikes me as somewhat ahistorical. Remember, British forces were a professional standing army, not a militia, and the original conception of the militia was as a national defensive force to be used as an alternative to a standing army lest the standing army become corrupt and tyrannical, stage a coup, or be a "temptation to foreign adventure" as in Eldrige Gerry's famous dick joke. On the other hand, the National Guard also violates the original intent of the militia insofar as it can be deployed abroad in non-defensive actions at the order of the executive. I think the "bearing arms (to serve in the militia)" interpretation is probably reasonable but can't apply solely to the National Guard, especially if the 2nd is incorporated under privileges and immunities (which it isn't, because of Slaughterhouse, although I think Clarence Thomas is right in thinking that privileges and immunities are a better basis for incorporation.). But reasonable people may disagree, and Scalia was smarter than I am, so who knows?
3f2fe3 No.335052
>>335006
>What's the relationship between Firearms Policy Coalition and Firearms Policy Foundation, and are they good? Also, which should I join, CGF or CRPA?
Anyone?
>>335044
Actually, I'm not sure that that is Scalia's interpretation. There seems to be a distinction mooted in the opinion between "the militia" on one hand and "a select milita [or standing army]" on the other. Gonna go read it, brb.
767aa5 No.335054
>>334919
this is probably the best non-combat pattern for a knife i have ever seen. i believe it is a tom brown tracker design. the pic is a blank, obviously. so if you don't mind making your own scales and sheath, well… it is somewhat of fair deal. if i didn't have a full set of knives myself, i would jump on this deal. personally i hate all these plastic sheaths that are becoming so popular now, they are just plain noisy.
http://www.amazon.com/Carbon-Tracker-Hunting-Skinning-Skinner/dp/B0163RDFVO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1458495039&sr=8-3&keywords=tom+brown+tracker+blank
767aa5 No.335074
>>334919
and it is a far better knife than that gerber in any application.
b74e24 No.335272
Are the Czech M90 boots good for overall operatin'? They are only $40.
Is there an FAL clone that shoots .308, or do I have to go with a PTR-91?
f57567 No.335274
>>335272
Those are pretty fucking sweet looking, but the cheapest option is a pair of used military boots, I bought a pair a year ago for 20 bucks and they've stood up to many a tactical park operation, such as feeding birds, walking in dog poop, and moving fallen trees, not to mention low light condition gate closing and people tracking. I've even chased a dog once. 10/10 for a cheap option, don't know about those.
3f2fe3 No.335281
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>>335272
>Is there an FAL clone that shoots .308, or do I have to go with a PTR-91?
https://forum.308ar.com/topic/362-308-vs-762/
Don't use super hot loads and you should be g2g with a DSA.
16483a No.335300
>>335281
>more faggots fearmongering about their miscalculated hypotheses
Jesus Christ
>>335272
Read this instead, draw your own conclusions.
https://www.docdroid.net/shd8/the-truth-about-308-win-and-762-nato.pdf.html
TL;DR - If you think .308 Win is too powerful for a 7.62x51mm rifle, don't use either, because they have the same chance of blowing up.
Most ammunition-related kabooms are caused by handloading and rare, but possible, previous structural damage.
59ebf1 No.335306
>>335272
>Is there an FAL clone that shoots .308, or do I have to go with a PTR-91?
Why not get a FAL?
378091 No.335311
What is generally a good starter ak in the 6-8 hundred dollar range so far the wasr 10 looks good but I couldnt find to many guides anywhere on which models/brands to avoid and which ones are good
182610 No.335316
>>333848
Walther CCP is cool but has some technical issues.
I'd just see if you can get a gunsmith to polish up the surfaces for you.
It also has issues with, if you rack the slide 97%~ of the way, it will chamber a round, NOT reset the striker, and no longer be drop safe.
Anyway, anyone know anything about LALO bloodbirds?
I want shoes with solid rubber soles and light (preferably water resistant) fabric for the sneaks.
ac062c No.335323
Maybe this deserves its own thread, but:
Tax return season is here, and I've got a fuckton of money coming back to me. As such, I want another gun (who doesn't). Problem is, I'm indecisive as fuck.
Currently pondering:
-FN FAL
-Calico, either a 9mm carbine or a .22 pistol, because they're so rad
-VEPR 12
-Chiappa Little Badger, for backpacking
-Chiappa Rhino, since it's impossible to find a Mateba
-AK pistol
-Whatever /k/ suggests
Currently have a Makarov and an SKS.
4d0854 No.335325
16483a No.335327
>>335323
Cheap AR-15 build, should be about $500-600 if you can find deals on parts. I say build your own because it's a learning experience and you can always get new parts to replace old ones.
And then buy a shotgun.
a71830 No.335338
Okay, so quick question regarding gun laws in Wisconsin. I took a few buddies out to go shooting (one of which had turned eighteen a few months ago) on private land. We took all the precautions necessary since the parents of the guy who turned eighteen have always been really iffy on letting their kid go shoot, but since he's a legal adult now we figured "fuck it." Literally all we brought was a Lee-Enfield, a Mosin-Nagant, and a .22 Rifle to plink with. We had a pretty good time and ate through ammo for four hours straight blasting targets.
However, the guy's parents are flipping their shit on me, trying to tell me I didn't follow the law. They're trying to claim that in Wisconsin you need to have gone through Hunter's Safety courses to own a gun. I know Wisconsin gun law well enough to avoid breaking the law, and because I can't find a damn thing about this requirement, I want to ask here if anyone has any knowledge of something like this existing. I figure they're just flipping their shit because, "oh no guns", but I just want to make 100% sure if I legitimately did fuck up or not.
341170 No.335339
>>335338
Well their little pumpkin doesn't own any of the guns and simply shot them so even if it were a rule it clearly was not broken.
e44dc5 No.335347
>>334880
Not that many. About 950 at most. I let the spring out of the magazine and let it sit in the box by itself. It may just be me but it seems to have regained some of its length and tension.
I'm still not sure what to do now. I've thought about getting Promag SR9 magazines but I have no idea if Promag is worth it or not.
799ca5 No.335417
Was looking at selling one of my knifes on ebay does anyone have any experience or any alternatives?
16483a No.335458
>>335338
>They're trying to claim that in Wisconsin you need to have gone through Hunter's Safety courses to own a gun.
Wisconsin Resident here, you do not need a Hunter's Safety certificate of completion to own or fire a gun.
They're just dumb as fuck, don't worry.
If you did need one, more than half of the state would be breaking the law.
767aa5 No.335463
>>335417
what kind of unit do you have for sale?
92a7be No.335472
How often so I need to clean my AK? And how do I clean?
Newfag here, no h8
767aa5 No.335482
>>335472
consider salinity & humidity content of the air. oil a couple 2 or 3 times a year. clean and oil after each use.
16483a No.335484
>>335472
>How often do I need to clean my AK?
Up to you, honestly. Different people have different schedules.
>how do I clean?
Clean the barrel as you would normally, with a rod, patches, oil, sometimes the wire brush. Remember to
Do not put any oil in the gas tube, just clean it with hot water and scrubbing.
Oil moving parts for lubrication, cycle the bolt repeatedly, dab the bolt face with a rag to make sure it's cleaned off.
Oiling the stock is a bad idea.
92a7be No.335488
>>335482
>>335484
So how do I clean my AK after I shoot it? Do I have to use oil or will water work?
d7ec3c No.335496
>>335488
You'll use water if you're using corrosive ammo, pour water down the gas tube, barrel, BCG and piston to within 6 hours of shooting to fight corrosion. If the water is hot, that is better. After pouring water through it then you clean it like you normally would with oil, rags, etc.
>>335311
The best to worst you can get if I recall is Krebs > Arsenal > DDI > Century > IO
You're taking a gamble when you buy a Century AK but the gun shop should allow you to make sure there's no misaligned sights, no crooked gas tube that will hang up the piston and allow you to test out magazines for wobble. But you do get a chrome lined hammer forged barrel out of the WASR 10/63s.
DDI AKs come in alot of configurations. So you can get one with MagPul, polymer or wood. DDI uses fenocite for their barrels, which may or may not give the barrels a longer life but not diminish accuracy as chrome lined barrels may. Feel free to disregard that as I don't know if it's true or not.
Arsenal and Krebs Custom is out of your price range.
>>334569
Beeman Silver Kodiak, it's a springer so it will be loud but you get a .177 barrel and .22 barrel out of it for $100~. You will need to resight any scopes you put on it if you swap barrels.
182610 No.335507
I'm looking for a bolt gun with a threaded 16" barrel in a common caliber that won't cost me my anal virginity.
Does such a gun exist?
16483a No.335509
>>335507
>that won't cost me my anal virginity
No.
14ee31 No.335516
How the fuck do compensators work
16483a No.335524
>>335516
Gas rushes out through the holes, pushing the muzzle in the opposite direction.
If the holes are drilled through the top, the escaping gas pushes downward on the muzzle.
0e1b7e No.335539
Witness holes on magazines. Why are they not a standard feature?
Is the pro of
>knowing how many cartridges are left in the mag
simply not worth the cons of
>reduced structural integrity
>potential for getting dirt and shit stuck in the mag
>increased production costs
?
Furthermore, would it be a stupid idea to drill witness holes in a shotgun tube mag?
16483a No.335542
>>335539
>Why are they not a standard feature?
Because magazines are made cheap, and putting extra work into them costs money.
>witness holes in a shotgun tube mag
Standard capacity is four rounds in the tube with the foregrip covering about half of it.
It would also be much easier to get dirt and sticks in those than a magazine concealed in a grip.
9a334e No.335553
What's the technical term for gun barrels that have exceptionally broad bases that taper more extremely than a normal gun? You typically see them on extremely large weapons like battleship cannons, but I've seen a few rifles with similar designs. I assume it's to keep the round from exploding the gun before the blast has a chance to expand a bit.
e73a67 No.335554
>>331663
get a mossberg 500 variant, maybe not the zombie or chainsaw grip version…
I'd say avoid remington 870s but some other anon here might disagree
fa74bb No.335557
>>335554
>I'd say avoid remington 870s but some other anon here might disagree
I'd say Zed, but I don't think he followed us here (thank God).
7ccfa8 No.335598
>>335542
What about clear plastic sides?
fbdb0a No.335599
>>335554
>I'd say avoid remington 870s but some other anon here might disagree
Only because the Hawk 982 is a superior gun to new 870s at a lower price.
a0ecf9 No.335604
>>335599
>Hawk
>made in China
I'll pass.
00f1d1 No.335652
i've only ever shot a 9mm (glock 19 and sig p226) and the recoil was super manageable. i want to try a .357 magnum, but i'm worried it'll flip out of my hand or hit me in the face or some shit like i've seen in youtube fail vids, making me look like a tard. i know it's best to increase power in steps, but i'm nofuns and have to rent, which also means i can only use ammo i buy at the range, and i don't really wanna spend that much by renting that many guns and buying that much ammo at those prices just to get used to the kick. should i just grip it and rip it? how bad is the recoil? am i overestimating it?
00f1d1 No.335654
>>335652
forgot to mention, it's because i'm looking to buy a gun, and i have my eye on a ruger gp100 with a 4 inch barrel because it's more affordable than a semi-auto of similar quality, can be fun for range time with cheapo .38 special, and also muh stoppin powah.
93380b No.335662
If I'm new to target shooting, what qualities should I look for in a gun? What calibers? not interested in a cpl at all
532152 No.335667
>>335662
Assuming you're new to shooting in general, get a Ruger 10/22. Just do it. Knowledge will follow from there.
93380b No.335672
>>335667
Looking for handguns specifically. Not that interested in long guns
1e0001 No.335677
93380b No.335681
>>335677
Concealed Pistol License
5111c1 No.335682
Canuck here. I saw the Canada Cuck thread for recommended non-restricted firearms, but I didn't see:
Norinco M14, M1 Garand, SKS (minimal mention), SVT-40
I'm bringing this up because I was considering all of these as a potential first buy. My reasoning was that they're all relatively cheap when compared to any of the stuff recommended in the other thread, all whilst being perfectly viable for hunting a variety of game (or in a self-defence situation). Out of the above, which one would you recommend and why? Or would you rather recommend anything from the other thread instead (XCR, Tavor, etc.)?
The SKS seems like a no-brainer but I'm worried about its accuracy and its stopping power and range when compared to an svt or a garand. The downside of the SVT is its size, which severely limits its use in close quarters. As for the other two, their ammo is more expensive and the garand costs a pretty penny when compared to the others. I'm just wondering if they're worth the extra cost.
5111c1 No.335684
Canuck here. I saw the Canada Cuck thread for recommended non-restricted firearms, but I didn't see:
Norinco M14, M1 Garand, SKS (minimal mention), SVT-40
I'm bringing this up because I was considering all of these as a potential first buy. My reasoning was that they're all relatively cheap when compared to any of the stuff recommended in the other thread, all whilst being perfectly viable for hunting a variety of game (or in a self-defence situation). Out of the above, which one would you recommend and why? Or would you rather recommend anything from the other thread instead (XCR, Tavor, etc.)?
The SKS seems like a no-brainer but I'm worried about its accuracy and its stopping power and range when compared to an svt or a garand. The downside of the SVT is its size, which severely limits its use in close quarters. As for the other two, their ammo is more expensive and the garand costs a pretty penny when compared to the others. I'm just wondering if they're worth the extra cost.
HOTWHEELS WHAT THE FUCK MAN
ccddd4 No.335718
I'd like to enlist in the Canadian army, probably in infantry.
Anyone have some tips about training beforehand (I am reasonably fit, not a gymrat or anything but I've done kickboxing for a couple years). I have guns, but to my shame I haven't shot them yet.
bad5bd No.335750
>>335718
I'd suggest you shoot them
16483a No.335752
>>335598
Cost and interest. People still like wood/polymer grips. Also, many modern guns don't have removable grip plates.
You can have clear plastic grips made, though.
>>335682
Norinco M14s aren't bad.
Garands aren't anything special if you can't afford them, just war relics.
The SKS is all-around "meh" in quality, even Russian ones. Norinco SKS rifles are made to sell and aren't particularly good, but will serve you well.
The SVT-40 is a pain in the dick to clean, and you'll need to clean it a lot.
>Hunting
They're all good for it, but the SKS and its 7.62x39 is a bit underpowered compared to the rest. A bit weaker than a .30-30, if you need a fudd-gun comparison.
>self-defence
>Canada
you are funny guy, canuck
42de17 No.335760
M1a/SVT if you're looking to hunt shit with it.
SKS/VZ-58 if you're looking to blast stuff, the VZ's also have a mag conversion for STANAG mags.
>>335752
SVT is only a cunt to clean if you use surplus. Using commercial is perfectly fine. I've put 1500+ rounds through mine without cleaning and it still operates
799ca5 No.335775
>>335463
ckrt van hoy snaplock v1
5675f0 No.335891
>>335752
Rather judged by 12 than carried by 6. Besides, if we keep taking Sweden's lead, our prisons are going to be the apex of comfy. Your FEMA camps won't even compare.
Thanks for your input, strelok. That eliminates the Garand. Although I heard it had a legal 8 round capacity for some reason. That was probably the most important point.
>>335760
That makes a lot of sense. I think I'm leaning towards a Norinco M14/M1a now.
1813da No.335893
>>335672
Ruger Mk (mark) series. .22LR is cheap as fuck, and if you only care about pistol plinking there's zero reason to use anything else.
1813da No.335894
>>335718
Cardio and running out the ass. Also, backpacking. Load up a pack with weights and walk some hills. Don't overdo or you'll get micro fractures. Do your homework.
584deb No.335895
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>334873
>Pardner is a better-than-Remington 870 knockoff that can take 870 accessories.
Can confirm. It's built like a brick shit house.
16483a No.335897
>>335891
>Although I heard it had a legal 8 round capacity for some reason
You are correct.
However, for the price it's probably more wise to get a different rifle that hasn't had its barrel shot out.
0e1b7e No.335903
How does one go about choosing a concealed carry weapon? I can't see how one can judge a firearm's suitability without having fired and carried it firsthand.
So it seems the options are:
>hope a local range has copies of [prospective model] available to rent
>hope a friend has a copy of [prospective model] to test
>take a risk and buy something to try out, if it works, great, if it doesn't, resell and try again
d3a979 No.335904
>>335323
One of my friends has a Rhino. Very controllable recoil. Comfortable to shoot. Single action is good, double action is decent. Sights are ok.
Were I in your shoes, I'd probably get an AK flat and a parts kit to DIY AK. Failing that, I'd set up an NFA trust (if I didn't already have one) and get a supressor or a short barrel for my AR or something.
0bd5c2 No.335905
Need a good set of 30mm picatinny scope rings to mount a 10x SWFA SS to a howa .308 with a nightforce 20moa rail, pls suggest
1813da No.335916
>>335903
Buy a pocket pistol like LC9. It's called a subcompact, but some subcompacts are fucking massive like the Beretta Nano.
If you want a high energy load, you're going to need a bigger pistol. Your green texts are about the best advice you're going to get.
c39e80 No.335917
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>334929
Why not an e-nep? It's just like a kukri, for cheap! Not to mention they're of very high durability, as seen in the video.
16483a No.335921
>>335903
In order from least to most helpful -
Watch videos. All the videos you can find.
Fingerfuck the gun(s) in a gunshop.
Rent and fire them.
Ask your friend if you can go to the range and try theirs while asking their opinion.
960bfa No.335949
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What are some good boots for every day use? Bonus points if they can assist in kicking shit in when needed to.
Also, any suggestions on belts for CCW?
1813da No.335952
b7f5b4 No.335983
>>335917
cool blade form. chris sounds like a huge faggot.
d02f32 No.335997
>>335917
ok, e-nep Vs. hatchet.
i my mind, the supreme quality of any blade, is the "ease"-"of"-"being"-"sharpened" IN THE FIELD. that is absolutely paramount. i simply love 1095 for this reason. Aus-8 adds stainless qualities, and still a little tougher to sharpen, but still do-able. whats the real difference, 1095 would require a fingertip of vegetable oil from time-2-time.
a proper hatchet should still deliver more effortless cutting pressure, or blunt hammer blows Vs. an e-nep. and with the proper head, a longer stalk could always be fashioned, if wood is available.
where does an e-nep win? possibly piercing qualities, depending on the hatchet design. and possibly overall length of cutting surface, where the e-nep might inherit some machete-like qualities.
i do like how the video takes special notice of a cutting implement not needing to be extremely costly. i still like possible hatchet designs Vs. an e-nep. either of them look like a very nice companion for a trek.
d02f32 No.335999
>>335917
i would add, most of M-tech's stuff is borderline garbage,lol. the pic conveys ideas. that was my main purpose there.
f435b2 No.336021
>>334370
I know this is different now adays, but you used to be able to get some of your service weapons to bring back home.
IIRC my great-grandad kept his 1911 after WWII.
IDK about nam, but lots of shit went missing, and if you know the right guys, you can STILL get things that are "missing".
It is illegal as fuck, though. Just saying.
So, my question of the day:
Where can I find a handgun with a threaded barrel for $500 or less?
I want one, and I almost got a P250 for about $400, but I fucked up and didn't take it.
I prefer US standard, but metric is acceptable.