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There's no discharge in the war!

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772441 No.329650

Letting women in the Military was a mistake

2ae1dc No.329654

Women in the military are fine and they have been there for over 100 years, women in combat roles is pants of head retarded.

(file already exists >>325612 )


81f0d6 No.329672

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>>329650

NAAAAGEEEEL!!!

Your documentary isn't even the best one.


8ad1b9 No.329758

>>329654

This anon doesn't speak for the nation of straya, They are a cuck and they don't represent the opinion of healthy normal people of straya.

I just want to know how they have managed to escape the sack beatings for this long.


fb8e61 No.329795

We were overdue for this thread. Usually have it every month, but this time it was almost a month and a half.


27c3c8 No.329801

File: 1457623137493.jpg (71.61 KB, 500x375, 4:3, 4273716-1397924558943.jpg)

>>329654

>Women in the military are fine


2ae1dc No.329809

>>329758

>not having sexy secretaries and nurses


3ccc0e No.329812

>>329809

That's fine but these aren't "military personnel".

It's high we fucking define that military personnel are the ones who actually see combat.

The ones that don't can be called logistic personnel or something.


2ae1dc No.329814

>>329812

To me "in the military" means you have a branch of the armed forces send you your paycheck. I agree they shouldn't be in combat roles and shouldn't even be in non-combat roles in high risk areas like FOBs.


3ccc0e No.329815

>>329814

If you are in the military, but you don't see combat or your job isn't to combat, you are logistics.

Period.


fb8e61 No.329820

>>329758

>>329801

In non-combat roles like nurses and secretaries.

Put down the bottle and learn to read.


a00b36 No.329822

>>329815

Logistics are just as important as combat. How the fuck can a soldier fight without food or ammo?


3ccc0e No.329823

>>329822

Logistics win war.

But without soldiers, there wouldn't be anyone fighting in the first place.

So a distinction must be held.

Soldiers are the soul of the army, logistics is just a tool to support the soldiers.


bc3a0f No.329873

File: 1457632682503-0.jpg (21.3 KB, 1021x374, 1021:374, 1.jpg)

File: 1457632682503-1.jpg (73.12 KB, 490x705, 98:141, 2.jpg)

File: 1457632682504-2.jpg (81.95 KB, 466x700, 233:350, 3.jpg)

Let's get some actual arguments going lads


844531 No.329877

>>329873

Lets not, fuck these cyclic threads that we all have heard thousands of times where every single thread the women get btfo


84afa3 No.329878

File: 1457633473081.png (178.29 KB, 330x319, 30:29, golface award.png)

>>329873

>plenty of women are emotionally and physically strong


a66739 No.329881

>>329823

We call them pogs. Fuck non 11 or 18 series.


3f2889 No.329922

File: 1457640998632.jpg (13.83 KB, 236x168, 59:42, 08a48d7809fdfb1ecb27056f2e….jpg)

>>329650

Now now, there are some Diamonds in the rough.

>>329654

Very much this.


e94d7b No.329927

File: 1457641393332.jpg (29.81 KB, 446x326, 223:163, 234cae845b1ff3d8323854e919….jpg)

>>329758

Thanks for clearing that up, fellow cousin.


e02c89 No.329931

File: 1457641753001.webm (391.76 KB, 5x5, 1:1, ant.webm)


cd1bfd No.329936

>>329873

>If they can meet the bar, they can serve.

That's pretty much it. Quotas are retarded and one of the reasons the West is falling.


3f56ec No.330072

>>329822

Logistics also operate in dangerous conditions. Getting ambushed, IEDs, and hilarious forklift training accidents happened to us all the time.

I like how everyone who assumed we just hung out at the KAF timmies stopped making fun of us when they saw us getting into firefights to clear out our own convoy routes. *sips coffee*


8ad1b9 No.330207

File: 1457671542605.gif (1.43 MB, 322x281, 322:281, 1446528505832.gif)

>>329820

My uncle works as a repairman fixing the air conditioning units in hospitals is he medical personnel??

Because this very broad term, military could mean anything these days my mothers ex-boyfriend used to purchase the equipment for the army but he never went thru any kind of training or even was inducted into rank and file is he military??

My dog brings me the paper when the mailman delivers it to my front door is my dog a postman ??


2ae1dc No.330215

>>330207

See >>329814, if you are directly employed by the armed forces you are military personal. You will find that you uncle probably works for a civilian company that has the repair contract for hospitals meaning he isn't hospital staff.

I too have worked in hospitals as an electrician and my boss invoiced the hospital just like he would any other customer, the hospital never directly employed us.


8ad1b9 No.330219

File: 1457673519563.jpg (225.13 KB, 947x836, 947:836, 1451683233151.jpg)

>>330215

Narr he is on the hospitals payroll

The point is you can work for an institution however i wouldn't say you were were entitled to same title.

In the same way that a clerk that works in a police station isn't really law enforcement. That clerk doesn't facilitate the primary function of that institution and doesn't warrant the same title as it devalues the contributions of the primary members.


329197 No.330220

Most people in the USA miltitary are too fat, not just women.


2ae1dc No.330225

>>330219

>he is on the hospitals payroll

In that case he is hospital staff, hospital staff =/= medical professional in the same way that military personal =/= combatant.

In the case of the clerk they are law enforcement but that =/= officer.

It only devalues the title when people are too stupid to realize the diversity of roles in all large institutions. I have meet more than a few guys that try to play the "I was in the military so I'm tough" card so I always ask what they did, only one was actually para while the rest were mechanics and electricians.


8ad1b9 No.330230

>>330225

I'm not willing to accept that outlook and I'm positive that a lot of other people wouldn't either.


d1e093 No.330233

>>330219

>The point is you can work for an institution however i wouldn't say you were were entitled to same title.

The issue is that you're getting the titles confused. "[Institution] personnel" isn't the same as "glory role of [institution]". Every single person employed by the institution is the former, while the people in the glory roles are the latter and the former.

For example: Baggage handlers are airline personnel despite not being pilots.

>That clerk doesn't facilitate the primary function of that institution

That's pretty close to the definition of a clerk.

>devalues the contributions of the primary members

Only if you presume that making it possible for something to be done is somehow less valuable than physically doing it.


3f2889 No.330267

>>329931

not my fault you cant pass MEPS with that nearsighted vision :^)


e1bd75 No.330268

File: 1457683985048.webm (1.65 MB, 640x480, 4:3, 1449857456741.webm)

Out of 1516 webms set to random, this came up first. Synchronicity? inb4 Bateman

>>329820

There is no need for them to be in the military at all if all they do is wipe asses and push paper.

>>330225

>In the case of the clerk they are law enforcement but that =/= officer.

We call that a clerk

>>330233

>Only if you presume that making it possible for something to be done is somehow less valuable than physically doing it.

It is less valuable. In the same way that the admission secretary isn't as important as a nurse. And a nurse who shaves a head isn't as valuable as the brain-surgeon.


969276 No.330279

>>329672

>>329650

Just the thought of being a Panzergrenadier makes my dick hard i'll happily take her damn place! That is until America gets a unit like them besides Rangers.

also any /K/raut wanna translate I can see there fucking up but I wanna hear what the others are saying.


dfa763 No.330511

>>330279

>women break down

>everyone fed up with their shit but not allowed to say anything

>training cancelled due to light rain


d1e093 No.330590

>>330268

>It is less valuable. In the same way that the admission secretary isn't as important as a nurse. And a nurse who shaves a head isn't as valuable as the brain-surgeon.

They aren't as valuable as far as payment and social status goes because of supply and demand coupled with the relative difficulty of obtaining the skills. But looking at a functioning system as a whole, every element essential to that function is of equal importance; some are just easier to replace than others.

The brain surgeon would be incapable of carrying out his part of the hospital's "perform brain surgery" function without the people who do all the other parts.

At the end of the day, a complex society is just like any other machine.


146ff5 No.330746

>>330279

baiscally

>>330511

The instructor tries to motivate his soldiers, making them clear how they fail with all this shit. Some of the shit is just due to them being new, but they're not conscripts, they're voluntaries. So they get paid better and have to bring more performance.

As you can see, they can't even do regular exercises right, failing at push-ups and shit, which is ridiculous. Three push-ups too much lol. And they're "professional" soldiers getting paid for their shit triple the amount of regular conscripts.

Their whole mentality basically is just staying away from all heavy exercises, getting paid and buying shoes. They talk about that in a later part of the documentary. They complain all the time about being sick and freezing outside. The main girls are:

Nagel - the blond chick

Pfeiffer - the brunette

the short haired chick actually is alright, she takes it seriously and doesn't fail

And they bitch on and on about being treated so bad and how rude they are… god fucking damn. It hurts just explaining this shit.


146ff5 No.330759

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Here is a more positive example


5cd73c No.330776

Women have one job during war.

Get pregnant by her man before he leaves, so that the the next generation is sexured.


e1bd75 No.330921

File: 1457810459087.jpg (40.78 KB, 325x308, 325:308, 325px-Hieronymus_Bosch_053….jpg)

>>330590

Things aren't equally critical in real life. The woman ensuring the proper government forms are filled out IS NOT AS VALUABLE. It has nothing to do with money or skill.

With a machine, there are some parts that can fail and not matter much, or can be easy to get around, or only matter in long term costs.abd wear. Others are absolutely critical, without them the machine breaks down. Game over man.

The parking brake falling off an airplane is not as important as the rudder falling off.

Complex society is not really like a machine, because a machine left alone won't properly allocate the correct parts (IQ, ability, drive) to continue functioning like the market does.

>every element essential to that function

but you have been arguing that nonessential people are just as important.

>The brain surgeon would be incapable of carrying out his part of the hospital's "perform brain surgery" function without the people who do all the other parts.

Lets say the shtf. Guy gets hit on the head. No hospital. No admin clerks. No machines that go 'ping.' Do you tell the brain surgeon don't bother, none of the other cogs are there so he can't function?


570ac4 No.330923

File: 1457810656435.png (49.44 KB, 181x152, 181:152, Soviet Costanza.png)

>>330746

>Their whole mentality basically is just staying away from all heavy exercises, getting paid and buying shoes. They talk about that in a later part of the documentary.


c31e44 No.330927

File: 1457811109675.jpg (43.9 KB, 700x467, 700:467, youre fucked now.jpg)


146ff5 No.330933

>>330923

I'm not even joking, look through it. They will be standing in front of their closet things, hold the money into the camera and talk about how they will get shoes (Schuhe).


518636 No.330935

>>330923

>"I seriously be of hoping you cease this, comrades"


570ac4 No.330937

>>330933

I can't find that part.


146ff5 No.330943


570ac4 No.330949

>>330943

Thanks.


f51e78 No.330952

>>330921

Well bureaucrats are good for anti-espionage because they're so obsessed with the rules they notice when things are off, so spies who rely on nobody noticing are then caught. But there is a minimum bureaucrat before they start becoming a cancer to the system threshold.


628366 No.330959

File: 1457815302252.jpg (9.04 KB, 480x420, 8:7, 411r4ez4xo1_500.jpg)

>>329878

>plenty of women are emotionally and physically strong

they sometimes are, but very rarely share both traits, and those that do are typically not intelligent

pic related is for relationships but the same applies for military value in women, just replace good looking with physically strong


994766 No.330995

File: 1457820555191.gif (464.95 KB, 200x317, 200:317, dubs dance.gif)

>>330959

>tfw intelligent and good looking

Just call me Bateman


d1e093 No.331107

>>330921

>Things aren't equally critical in real life. The woman ensuring the proper government forms are filled out IS NOT AS VALUABLE. It has nothing to do with money or skill.

When there's government forms to be filled out, chances are that something wouldn't be happening (or something bad would happen) if there was nobody to do so. Not that I can think of a non-government position where your entire job would be filling out government forms, without other essential paperwork.

>With a machine, there are some parts that can fail and not matter much, or can be easy to get around, or only matter in long term costs.abd wear. Others are absolutely critical, without them the machine breaks down. Game over man.

>The parking brake falling off an airplane is not as important as the rudder falling off.

Plenty of parts that won't result in immediate failure of the machine will still result in the machine failing to carry out its function. The parts that keep long term costs down could be the only thing making it economically viable to operate the machine in the first place.

The parking brake failing isn't as bad as the rudder if the plane is in the air at the time, but it's much worse if it's on the ground and the brake is keeping idle thrust from moving the aircraft. Of course, the salient point here is that the failure of either will result in the whole thing being out of action until it's repaired.

>Complex society is not really like a machine, because a machine left alone won't properly allocate the correct parts (IQ, ability, drive) to continue functioning like the market does.

Whether parts are allocated by the forces of the market or a technician doesn't affect the accuracy of the analogy. Or at least the important part of it, which is the interconnected and dependant nature of everything.

>but you have been arguing that nonessential people are just as important.

Very few organisations have truly nonessential positions. There may be people who aren't needed on a minute-to-minute basis, but they're all needed for ongoing function. As you pointed out, society is shaped by the market, and nobody is paying extra wages to unneeded personnel just for the fun of it.

>Lets say the shtf. Guy gets hit on the head. No hospital. No admin clerks. No machines that go 'ping.' Do you tell the brain surgeon don't bother, none of the other cogs are there so he can't function?

SHTF fundamentally alters the nature of the system. I'm talking about a complex society that can function indefinitely. Not a collection of isolated groups that are gradually consuming the currently non-renewable products of the system which has collapsed.

But regardless, without proper facilities, equipment and people with other skills (albeit not ones as complex as his), the brain surgeon's ability to perform his function would be severely limited.


e1bd75 No.331137

File: 1457841374515.png (95.03 KB, 350x236, 175:118, calvinarguespointlessly.png)

>>330952

I thought cold-war britain contradicted that, but I don't know enough on the subject.

>>331107

>When there's government forms to be filled out, chances are that something wouldn't be happening (or something bad would happen) if there was nobody to do so

Statist out

>that the failure of either will result in the whole thing being out of action until it's repaired.

Read nigga, I said parking break falling off, not being on. You aren't getting my point. One is a complete nonevent that can probably be ignored indefinitely, the other means everyone dies.

> the brain surgeon's ability to perform his function would be severely limited.

Just like a soldier without logistics can still function somewhat, but logistics without soldiers is just a waste of resources like a secretary with no doctor. Now we are back to the beginning of the thread.

I'm done.


d1e093 No.331149

>>331137

>Statist out

Try realist. Whether or not that's how it should be doesn't affect the fact that that is how it is. If and when there's no longer a need for most interaction with the government, fewer people will be employed to handle it; they won't just hang around being nonessential staff doing nothing.

>Read nigga, I said parking break falling off, not being on. You aren't getting my point. One is a complete nonevent that can probably be ignored indefinitely, the other means everyone dies.

The parking brake on an aircraft becoming inoperable is not a non-event that can be ignored indefinitely. It's unlikely to be as much of an issue as a rudder failure (although as I pointed out, it could theoretically be worse in the right situation), but it still results in the entire machine being grounded while it gets fixed.

>Just like a soldier without logistics can still function somewhat, but logistics without soldiers is just a waste of resources like a secretary with no doctor. Now we are back to the beginning of the thread.

Soldiers with no ammunition, food, water, fuel and so on are useless. They wouldn't even be in the right place to do any fighting without logistics. But logistics without soldiers is useless as well. That's my whole point, almost everything is useless without the efforts of the rest of society.


32dfe7 No.331163

If women want to be in frontline combat roles…

they need to register for the draft.

they ought to meet the same physical strength requirements as their male counterparts.

they probably would be safer and more effective operating tanks and other vehicles and crew served weapons. This also one also applies to men.


e1bd75 No.331167

File: 1457845580461.jpg (34.42 KB, 540x399, 180:133, RdWCnPN.jpg)


d1e093 No.331181

>>331167

>posts whingy image macro

Were we having some kind of bitter row and I didn't notice? I thought it seemed like a pretty civilised debate.


3f2889 No.331185

>>330927

Sexy God help me in OSUT


f51e78 No.331369

>>331137

Basically if they're in a department like human resources or the military equivalent their constant badgering and annoyance of everyone to do paperwork outs anomalous elements because they didn't do the proper forms causing them to dig deeper.

But that's only if you have the right amount, like I said if too many bureaucrats are in a system then they become cancerous.


e1bd75 No.332072

File: 1458003664319.jpg (Spoiler Image, 21.01 KB, 192x213, 64:71, hillbpowgenm.jpg)

>>331369

Brilliant. The only reason I haven't been smoked out is I'm excellent at playing dumb.


948831 No.332362

>>330759

Scheiße, ich glaub ich kenn einige von denen von der AGA in 2010.

Die wurden von der Bundeswehr über irgendeinen Sport Club rekrutiert und haben, verglichen mit den restlichen normalen Wehrpflichtigen, eine beforzugte Behandlung bekommen.

Im Klartext heißt das, die musste nie irgendwie ihre Stube reinigen, wurden überall zuerst drangenommen und waren schon überall mit Gepäck unterwegs, bevor die Meisten von uns überhaupt ihren 90/5er bekommen hatten.

Deren einzige Leistung war ihr eigenes Klo zu versopfen, uns das Toilettenpapier zu klauen und bei sich in die Ecken zu scheißen, weil sie zu feige waren das verstopfte Klo zu melden.

Sauber machen durften natürlich Leute von anderen Zügen.


d362e9 No.335278

women serve a very valuable role in any military.

as stress relief, or if you will, as "dick holsters".


870ae7 No.335442

>>335278

just call them what they are

"comfort women"




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