/k/ - Weapons

I think your police and corrections minister realizes that laws do not prevent crimes, but instead only make them punishable.

She sounds pretty good. Is she a qt?

that wouldn't work here since it violates the 4th amendment (not that the USG follows any law that it doesn't care to), but not a bad idea considering how "the usual suspects" these crims are.

>>330116

>Is she a qt?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Collins

Page is a old, she actually came back to parliament after they basically begged her to since her placement was so fucking useless.

Some of her other policies include the seizing and crushing of street racers cars, and the resistance to police being armed with handguns (they instead have a lockbox in their cars with an M16) and instead being given tazers.

>>330117

>that wouldn't work here since it violates the 4th amendment

4A allows for probable cause doesn't it?

>>330118

>her placement

replacement*

>>330120

yes, through a warrant. in bad jurisdictions that's a no-look automated rubber stamp, hence US's no-knock dog-shooting cop problem.

>>330126

Couldn't the government stipulate searches for firearms as part of release conditions?

>>330127

We like prisons though

I feel for you Austrailians. You guys are a culture of rough dudes that just want to drink your beer and shoot your guns in peace, but have to deal with the fact that your cities run the scenes with a bunch of naive hipsters that thought captain planet was a documentary and not a cartoon.

But I am happy that your police realize that more gun laws just makes for harder to control policies and criminals that "gasp" are gonna still gonna use guns no matter how many laws you put down to prevent it.

Too bad thought majority of online Aussies I talk to are all liberal cucks that drank the kool aid hard and refuse to have any political debate on the topic simply because "HURR AUSTRALIA NUMBER 1 YOU FUCKING AMERICAN CUNT WE HAVE NO GUN CRIME YOU REDNECKS XD XD"….I swear if I could take you fucks to America and show you how safe it is to live here you would all shut up. Also our beer is superior yeah I said it.

>>330129

Being quarter maori and having to grow up around far north savages, I can tell you without a doubt,

prison doesn't do shit.

They go in, make mates with better criminals and become better criminals before they leave.

The only effective measure I can see is no tolerance for this shit, lashings and then solitary confinement.

You can't teach maori the way you teach european kids, every time they fuck up you must humiliate them in front of everyone who they respect.

I've seen it work multiple times with primary and HS teachers.

On a side note the families that have one scum child that gets caught tend to be all scum of on sort or another.

>>330133

Don't you fucking bait me you cunt

>>330133

>this entire post

>implying you Liberians can bait me that easily

aussie beer is like british beer, bad.

>>330127

probably. actually they might even do that for parolees, I'm not enough of a nigger to know.

>>330143

>aussie beer is like british beer, bad.

Can confirm that your bait is absolutely bottom of the barrel shit tier, just like your burger beer.

>>330120

Its not supposed to but muh living document types keep trying to erode that so they can do as they please, which is why theres not a lot of opposition against civil forfeiture, which it sounds like shes 100% for. If you dont know how bad civil forfeiture is peoples houses in philly have been confiscated after their grandkids got caught with weed, and theres basicly no avenues to get it back. And sometimes reasonable doubt mostly comes out to a padded version of i dont like this guy and i also want his money.

>>339143

British beer is fucking great. Had something called Good King Henry stout or someshit. Our beer is ok, their beer blows ours outta the water.

>>330157

>If you dont know how bad civil forfeiture is peoples houses in philly have been confiscated after their grandkids got caught with weed

Our government isn't that tyrannical fortunately and if the government was stupid enough to do such a thing it would be voted out next election after the opposition based their entire campaign on it. The only time the police can seize a property is if its a drug lab or similar and it must be returned to the owner immediately following the criminal investigation.

>which it sounds like shes 100% for

I doubt it, but even if she was I would prefer her over someone pushing muh gun control like everywhere else.

>>330161

>Our beer is ok, their beer blows ours outta the water.

The only issue with English beer is that its not served cold, ours is which is why its superior.

>>330114

>Instead she feels that the best way to combat gun crime would be to give police greater ability to search the homes of people convicted of prior firearms offenses

Still a violation of rights, m8. You can't trade one evil for the other.

>>330178

>Our government isn't that tyrannical

Your country tried to ban small breasts. What are you talking about?

>>330206

he's NZ not aus

>>330134

>You can't teach maori the way you teach european kids, every time they fuck up you must humiliate them in front of everyone who they respect.

Is that how shame-cultures make it work?

>one of our hardest prisons

How many prisons do you have?

>>330240

>How many prisons do you have?

18, the prison that he was at (Auckland Prison) is the only one with a 'maximum security' wing in the country.

>>330240

Eighteen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_correctional_facilities_in_New_Zealand

I don't know which one the dindu relevant to this thread was in, but I'm going to go ahead and assume it was Paremoremo.

>>330246

Source on him being held at Auckland Prison (formally known as Paremoremo

http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/03/unravelling-the-spin-of-the-media-party-over-kawerau/

>>330247

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Liam_Ashley

What the fuck lol

>>330249

It's not called Paremoremo anymore? Interesting.

>>330250

Which part are you reacting to? There are a few worthy bits.

>>330252

>my son borrowed my car without asking so let's throw him in prison

>it's been a day lol, time to pull the plug

parents of the fucking year

>>330253

Kid was a little shit and they wanted to give him a taste of what it was like to be behind bars to straighten him up.

Two similarly feral kids were killed a month or so ago when the stolen car they were in crashed following a police chase. So at least the parents with Liam were trying to put him right (even if they were going about it in a retarded way).

>>330256

or

instead of turning a petty criminal into a hardened criminal (that would be the best case scenario)

they could beat the little fuckers

>>330257

Its illegal to beat your kids in NZ like gun laws those that the 'anti-smacking law' is supposed to target completely ignore it.

>>330118

>Cops only carry nonlethals on their person

>No-bullshit "gun you really want when you need a gun" in the trunk

that sounds pretty good for australia, but i'm just a burger. if the cop car was very, very, very securely locked all the time with all those who have access being thrown in the fucking sea if they don't practice safety like a monk practices hating fun, they should definitely have three M16s in the back, with load bearing vests for each officer. one with a 16 or 18 inch barrel if shit is really awful, and two with 11.5 or 14 inch barrels for what cops would usually use longarms for.

>>330260

They have bulletproof vest with them as well and have ready access to a G17 when in the car.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Police

>The New Zealand Police calls itself an 'unarmed service' with its officers not carrying firearms. Officers carry OC spray (pepper spray), batons and Tasers.

>Since 2012, frontline vehicles have had a locked box in the passenger foot-well containing a loaded and holstered Glock 17, and in the rear of the vehicle, there is at least one Bushmaster rifle secured in a case together with ballistic vests.

>Officers are required to advise their supervisor or communications if a firearm is to be retrieved from their vehicle and carried.

They also wear stab-proof vests at all times.

>>330126

>US's no-knock dog-shooting cop problem.

Nogs are training dogs to shoot cops now? Strange times indeed.

Black Lives Matter: The Rise of the "DINDU"

>>330143

>he drinks Heineken-tier factory piss

>>330188

Well in the colder months, anything with heat is a good thing

>>330210

They don't learn through chastisement or physical punishment alone because whatever you do their mother does worse.

My mum used to hold my brothers feet and put his head in a trough when he did stupid shit so he became desensitized and wouldn't listen.

However, when he tried to shoplift at a shop she dropped his pants in front of his mates a week later and smacked his ass with a piece of alcathene. He never stole from a shop again.

>>330280

Blue Moon is the water of my people

>>330280

>the nation that brought us Fosters

>daring to tell us what a good beer is

>>330386

My good sir, have you heard of VB? It is the most delightful drink you could ever have.

In reality it is bottom of the barrel piss, nothing is lower than it, maybe Brazilians are lower than it considering they're dirt

>>330389

I'll have to drink a bottle the next time I feel like demonstrating a total lack of judgement.

>everyone in this thread calling OP an Aussie

Wew kiddos he's a kiwi. Can't believe my fellow burgers are really loving up to the murricans don't know geography stereotype.

>>330449

I thought they were baiting

>>330452

I was baiting with the shit aussie beer comment earlier.

In all honesty New Zealand happy your police force is wising up to gun laws compared to the main land Australians.

>>330449

It can be hard to tell when the only difference in the flag is that the stars are red and the flags are so goddamn small in the first place.

OP here on a different computer

>>330456

Blue Moon is nice but I have recently started drinking a locally brewed beer called Good George which is far better. Whats great is that unlike you guys in the US I can buy my beer straight from the brewery.

>>330328

>In all honesty New Zealand happy your police force is wising up to gun laws

Its a mix when it comes to the police, the top police guys like the chief are anti-gun because they are hardcore statists while most of the arms officers are staunchly pro-gun. When it comes to frontline cops I think its mixed between anti/neutral/pro with the majority being neutral.

>>330467

You can actually hover your mouse over the flag and it will come up with the name of the country.

>>330467

With a tiny flag it's easier to check whether there's a star beneath the Union Jack or not. The Aussie flag has one, while ours doesn't.

The NZ flag also uses darker shades of blue and red. So combined with the red stars it looks quite a bit darker overall.