/k/ - Weapons

I also want to know some good long guns that aren't too loud. Mosin is just stupidly loud.

Mosin isn't that loud, stick a muzzlebreak on it then talk to me.

Most fullsized rifle cartridges are "loud". If you're worried about noise pick up a .22lr, a Pistol caliber carbine or something in .223.

Using both ear plugs and ear muffs like you linked will be more than sufficient, t.machinist.

>>331907

>stick a muzzlebreak on it then talk to me

I don't know much about guns, but I thought those only help recoil?

>>331913

Apparently they make everyone around you deaf instead of you.

>>331903

http://www.coopersafety.com/noisereduction.aspx

>>331903

Where will you be shooting? Taking all the precautions in the world won't help if the guy right next to you at a range starts unloading his short-barrelled FAL with drum mags and a muzzle brake as fast as he can.

Your first gun should generally be a .22LR whether you're worried about your hearing or not. So until you want to move up to something with more oomph you won't have to worry much (with hearing protection of course). You could even get subsonic rounds if you want to really ease into the noise.

Unfortunately your government views suppressors as evil assassination weapons rather than safety devices. But you could go through the process of getting one for any gun you get. I'd expect that your reason for wanting them would make it relatively painless.

>>331913

They reduce recoil at the cost of dramatically increasing the apparent loudness of the shot by redirecting gasses that would have expanded forward sideways (and possibly backwards) instead. That was Canada's point.

>>331903

You'll be fine if you use in-ear plugs in conjunction with over-earmuffs. When I first got into guns, I was really retarded and would shoot a .45acp without any kind of protection whatsoever. I'm sure I didn't do myself any favors but that was ten years ago and I haven't noticed any damage. Like others said, if you're really worried, shoot .22lr or .223

Unless you only shoot alone there will always be a time where you get exposed. You lift the earmuffs for a second to scratch an itch and BOOM! It happens.

>>331913

My SVT deafens people who aren't wearing two layers of hearing protection. Its fucking loud.

For shits and giggles I had one for my Mosin until I realized I didn't like the increased noise.

Longer barrel with certain loads= less noise. A finnish gunwriter once said that a 24" 22lr rifle is silent without a silencer. Get a 20" AR with a can on the front and use those cans you've got plus foam earbuds.

In order to reduce noise you have to pick a cartridge that is:

1. Slow, low sonic is good, subsonic is better.

2. All or most of the pressure is confined to the barrel, and very little escapes outside to create sound waves.

3. No muzzle device to reflect sound back.

4. Only shoot outside, in outdoor ranges or hunting grounds. Shooting in an indoor range magnifies felt sound.

5. Stay away from jacketed hollowpoint (JHP) or full metal jacket (FMJ) bullets, those are often light and fast. Get a lead round nose (LRN) bullet.

Final advice: I'd suggest using a .45 colt carbine with a heavy, slow lead projectile.

.45 colt has a soft sound even out of snub nose revolvers. It should be much quieter out of a carbine.

What muffs+plugs does /k/ recomend?

I use electronic ones, think that the brand is also 3m. They have microphones outside which relay sound inside, but cut out the loud noises. You adjust the volume control so that you can hear what's happening around you and soak to people normally without needing to remove them. They work great.

Cost me 80 roo dollars on ebay. Probably converts to about 40 burgher dollars.

>>332288

I use those foam plugs and cover them with beeswax, all I hear is my own heart beat.

>They have microphones outside which relay sound inside, but cut out the loud noises. You adjust the volume control so that you can hear what's happening around you and soak to people normally without needing to remove them. They work great.

That seems like magic to me.

>>332310

/k/ is a magical place…

>>332288

>>332310

They're called noise-cancelling. They basically play the same sound from outside but inverted or something (I forget) so the outside sound is neutralised. Bose makes a really good pair, though I'm not sure if theirs are suitable for explosive noise.

>>332355

the effect is called phase cancellation.

Can anyone explain why reaction shots don't bother my hearing without earpro, but a slow deliberate shot does?

>>331977

I was going to say pretty much this.

>>332310

>all I hear is my own heart beat

all I hear is eeeeee

>>332401

>Can anyone explain why reaction shots don't bother my hearing without earpro, but a slow deliberate shot does?

Maybe you tense this thing up before the former, but not the latter?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensor_tympani_muscle

>>332440

interdasting. I tend to have a flinch if I don't dryfire or shoot .22s regularly. I don't flinch with rifles or shotguns in certain circumstances. Reaction may not be the word, but where there is a lack of hesitation.

>"A very small percentage of individuals can voluntarily produce this rumbling sound by contracting the tensor tympani muscle of the middle ear. "

I can do this! I always thought it was like a blood pressure thing or something. I will be testing this.

>>332310

>That seems like magic to me.

Look up constructive and deconstructive interference

http://www.phys.uconn.edu/~gibson/Notes/Section5_2/Sec5_2.htm

>>331903

These look like regular Peltor 3s