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There's no discharge in the war!

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ffc0fd No.332862

Hello /k/, I've recently turned 20 and I've decided I want to buy a rifle (I would start with a pistol, but where I live I would need to be 21). Please help me decide which rifle to buy (as a beginner with no knowledge of rifles or guns), as of now all I know about rifles is le moist nugget maymay

ec15f1 No.332867

If you're a complete n00b, the best advice is to buy a rifle chambered in .22lr like a Ruger 10/22 or something similar. .22lr has very little recoil so it will help you get good fundamentals. Some people get turned off to shooting by buying something with heavy recoil.


ec15f1 No.332868

Personally, I would have been dissatisfied with a .22 as a first gun. A .22lr is basically a step above a bb gun in terms of how it feels when you're shooting it.


4cedff No.332872

Personally, I absolutely cannot stand people who advocate shooting a 22. to start out with.

You want your first rifle to be something you genuinely want to shoot.

22. is fucking boring.

Get a decent sized rifle. Not full, 308 or whatever, but something like 5.56 and so on.

Easy enough recoil, but fun to shoot.


ee6e2a No.332877

>>332872

>>332868

The point isn't to make loud noises, it's to practice actually getting good at shooting.


4cedff No.332878

>>332877

But that isn't fun.

You shouldn't recommend people things when they're just starting out that aren't fun.


362b2f No.332879

>>332872

>Personally, I absolutely cannot stand people who advocate shooting a 22. to start out with.

This so fucking much.

Try renting a gun if it is possible, that's something you guys can do over there, take it to your advantage.

Start with something you can afford and really want to own, not some shit .22lr that you will end up re-selling at loss or storing somewhere gathering up dust.


ee6e2a No.332882

>>332878

>But that isn't fun.

Yes it is.

The fun isn't in turning money into noise and smoke, it's from hitting things and getting better. If you just want a loud bang get into fireworks or something instead.


4cedff No.332886

>>332882

If I wanted a pathetic bang without much of any feeling, what leaves a itty bitty hole that's hardly worth showing your friends, I'd just use a pellet gun.

You talk like you can't get better with a proper rifle.

22. is hardly going to prepare you on how to deal with recoil anyway.


ee6e2a No.332889

>>332886

>You talk like you can't get better with a proper rifle.

You can, but unless you're sponsored by the government is pretty expensive.

>22. is hardly going to prepare you on how to deal with recoil anyway.

Recoil isn't the hard part.


d20076 No.332890

>>332862

An AR is just fine if you plan to get one eventually, and technically it is a .22 caliber rifle, just not a .22lr .


dd4518 No.332895

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AKM or an AR. The latter will have nothing in the way of felt recoil. If AK pattern rifles are too costly in your area, then the VZ-2008 is a nice 7.62x39 rifle that is described most honestly as "the Czech's 'fuck you' to Russia".

Both are loud as fuck, and 7.62 will make you feel it.


4cedff No.332897

>>332889

>223 is expensive

It's something like 4cents a round depending on where yo uget it.


42c3cb No.332953

>>332862

.22LR and a steel target. Learn to shoot cheap and it goes *ping* when you hit for instant gratification. If you plan on sticking with .22, consider a Marlin Model 60 or Ruger 10/22. If you aren't, you can build an AR from a lower (depending on what state you live in) and have an upper for .22lr and one for 5.56.

>>332897

>4c per bullet 5.56

You're missing a zero there strelok.


f12a18 No.332965

>>332872

>>332868

>>332877

I'd recommend a 5.56 myself, just enough kick to have some fun, but very manageable in terms of noise and control.


f12a18 No.332972

>>332953

Varies between 2c to 5c per round, but I buy online.

http://www.bulkammo.com/rifle/bulk-5.56x45-ammo


42c3cb No.332984

>>332972

>>332971

Those are my local prices.

>>332975

Such is life in the People's Republic of Bodymore Murderland.


d9c029 No.332987

.223 or 5.56 Just don't think they're interchangeable. .233 in a rifle chambered for 5.56 is generally okay but 5.56 in a .223 weapon can fuck up your raifu.


f12a18 No.333001

>>332987

Also, Almost all the “generic” ammo you shoot is not 5.56. Oh, it says “.223 Remington/5.56” on it, but it isn’t really 5.56, won't pass velocity tests on it. It's .223

Which is generally fine, as you said, but it's a good point to bring up


792612 No.333021

>>332972

395 / 1200 = ~0,33 = 33 cents

171 / 500 = 0,342 = 34 cents

I guess maths is not your strong suite, burgerfriend.

If it was 5 cents each, a thousand rounds would cost 50 bucks. Remember, dear, that one dollar is 100 cents.


8f6d9e No.333022

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.22lr has it's niche in the firearm world. I personally think everyone should have one for shtf to take small game, enemy cameras/ electronics, break shins, etc. That being said there are definitely more satisfying rounds a beginner can start with. If you go with a .22lr Ruger 10/22 is what you want.

I recommend either an AR or AK. Both are great platforms. I prefer the AR because it's what I'm familiar with and I know I can hit my target with it. I recommend buying your upper and lower separately if you want to save money on an AR. Get one with a forward assist. Full30 has some good vids on picking an AK.


cddfc7 No.333062

>>332972

Math is hard


4025bf No.333065

>>332862

There's a guide in the sticky for babby's first gun.

Get a .22 rifle or a .223 rifle. They're both low-recoil, can be used for varmints, the ammo's fairly cheap, and so are the guns. Keep in mind that just because I suggested .223, you don't need an AR or similar item. A cheap bolt-action is fine. Also, if you get a .22, don't buy some "assault weapon" chambered in .22. It's a fucking gimmick and nothing else.

After you pick your rifle, buy a bulk order of ammo, and begin practicing with hard sights. While you're practicing, you should start saving money to invest in some optics. You don't have to go all out, but do some research and find something that's appropriately priced and not shit. Make sure you get everything to actually mount it to the gun (rings, rails, etc). If you think you're gonna be hardcore in this shit, you might want to kick up a little more cash and buy the nicer, more expensive scope that everyone is drooling over instead of the more economical but still good scope that everyone is drooling over. The only thing to keep an eye out for is MOA adjustment: anyone who advertises a +2MOA scope as a "sniper scope" is fishing for stupid or they're stupid themselves.

One of the most important things is to learn to take care of your gun. Buy a bottle of oil and a bag of patches ($10), clean your gun after every three shootings or a full month passes. Unless you buy a nugget, because usually the ammo's corrosive. If you bought a nugget, it's the first gun you clean when you get home, and you clean it even if you only put one round through it. Seriously, that corrosive shit will eat your gun like a "health at any size" activist eats the cake at the buffet.

After you can start hitting the target at 100 yards with a scoped rifle, start moving the targets further away. The US Marines shoot at not-moving targets with M4 carbines at 200, 300, and 500 yards. The 500 yard target's bullseye is a 20"x40" silhouette. Every rifle shooter's goal is to be able to make that shot reliably.

Of course, you can buy whatever you like, and people buy different niche guns. There are .22 takedowns that fit the action and barrel into the stock, and a few hikers I know love them because it's a way to get rabbit or squirrel for the pot. Henry still makes .45-70 lever-action carbines because people still enjoy putting on a big hat and cowboy boots, and that completes the set. For some reason beyond me, FN still manages to sell PS-90s in the US.

Side note: Anyone know another term for the guns described as assault weapons? I hate using that term.


62823a No.333089

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>>333065

>Anyone know another term for the guns described as assault weapons?

I prefer any title with "Baby" preceding the verb. Baby killer should do you well.

And to contribute to your post: My first caliber after .22lr was 7.62x39, since having an SKS is just as important as the .22 if you're a kuknadian. It doesn't kick that much harder than .223, and bulk is also readily available. A lot of that bulk also tends to be corrosive, too.


4025bf No.333098

>>333089

Unfortunately, I can never find a good AKM. I'm cursed or something.


04af3f No.333108

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>>332867

> a Ruger 10/22

always this.

Great rifle, cheap ammo, lots of extra goodies.

get the take down version, it's super easy to carry around, whether you are going to the range or hunting, since it comes with a designated bag.

also, you can get anything between a 25 and 110 round magazine.


2c7bb9 No.333110

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>>332895

>7.62 will make you feel it

Only if you're a pussy


2afcf6 No.333133

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>>332895

>Make you feel it


d5c44f No.333158

>>332895

>7.62x39

>make you feel it

Holy shit faggot how much do you weigh?


44e42e No.333164

>>332872

Fucking this.

The only time a .22lr should be your first gun is if you're under 14.

Just get a cheap ar15 and a full sized 9mm.


44e42e No.333165

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>>332897

>It's something like 4cents a round depending on where yo uget it.

What the fuck is with all these retards on /k/ lately? God damn.

Not even .22lr is fucking 4 cents a round anymore.

I can make 9mm for 6 cents a round, but that's with free brass and spending a lot of time melting lead.

Anyways 223 is still pretty cheap considering the firepower you're getting. 23 cents for the steel cased stuff.


04af3f No.333171


5ce524 No.333591

>>333171

ya'll niggas suck at finding good prices online.

http://ammoseek.com/ammo/22lr


19f06d No.333601

>>333591

You're retarded, all those after shipping are 10c or more per round.


e356ce No.333659

Having not read anything posted here yet, I can say without a doubt that as a grown man, you will not enjoy a .22lr as your first gun. They don't even feel like guns. What o would recommend in something chambered for .223 or 5.56, probably an AR, despite myself not particularly liking ARs. 5.56 isn't the cheapest out there, and it's very VERY loud, but it doesn't have much recoil, and is basically an adult's .22lr.


83de98 No.334814

>>332862

OP, I recently got my first gun too, I picked a .22lr, but I didn't get the ruger 10/22 and wish I did. 22lr is super cheap where i'm at, about 8c a pop.

I think you should find a good store where the staff will show you how to disassemble and take care of your whichever gun you choose, too.


b761ff No.334836

>>332895

lol have you even shot a 12 gauge before, have you ever shot .505 gibbs?


706d61 No.334838

>>333164

>full-sized

What if you want to EDC?




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