22834c No.334742
Which buttstock pad do you guys prefer? Concave style gives me the best purchase, I can't see why someone would prefer the convex pads. Maybe if youre really fat? idk
5292df No.334754
22834c No.334756
>>334754
But I want to know what type of person prefers convex and why.
50bccd No.334768
>>334756
>namefag
I was going to tell you why, but now I won't.
22834c No.334774
>>334762
thnx
>>334768
fuck off faggot
16b0c9 No.334780
>>334774
Since when did we decide that this prepubescent, toxic milfag was acceptable as a poster?
6467b2 No.334783
>>334768
That's a trip, not a name.
>>334756
>>334774
If you're a trippfaggot your deserve to get shit on like there was no tomorrow (specially on a board with IDs). If you want to have a trip, go to halfchan.
Next time, take this kind of stuff to the "Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Answer" thread.
22834c No.334785
>>334783
>pretend rules
go to reddit if you love your made up and arbitrary rules so much faggot
22834c No.334786
>>334768
>>334780
>>334783
>being this triggered by a trip
you guys are seriously tumblr tier drama queens. fucking filter it and move on with y our lives or just ignore it. holy fuck you guys are cringe
705e8a No.334795
>>334786
>>334785
The tripfag is right. Filter and move on if youre going to sperg out over it.
6467b2 No.334797
>>334785
>rules
I wasn't talking about rules here, m8. Calm down and stop the attention whoring already.
6ce0a4 No.334801
>tripfags still act surprised when their threads go to shit
They just never, ever learn.
22834c No.334807
>>334801
Learn what? That youll react the same way tumblrinas react to perceived misogyny?
b6dc70 No.334815
>>334807
contrary to what they teach you at millennialschool acting upset isn't the part that makes it invalid, having an invalid position does
take off the trip and half of us would answer your question
b6dc70 No.334817
it's for body armor, it acts like a boot. the concave pads don't stay put.
54b415 No.334828
>>334756
I actually have a magpul stock on my AR, I think I'd prefer it if it was convex whenever I put armor on. I haven't tried it though, and I've worked around it for so long that it's a luxury at this point, and not a requirement.
22834c No.334829
>>334815
>take off the trip and half of us would answer your question
i made the thread w/o the trip. the trip stays on from when im shitposting on /b/. i was too lazy to remove it and put it back on. trips arent a big fucking deal but you guys get seriously triggered over it.
i dont have an invalid position. there wasn't any discussion regarding one thing or another. it was just sperging out over a fucking tripcode. making a mountain out of a molehill, like tumblrfags do
22834c No.334830
>>334817
that makes a lot more sense than >>334762
a8a329 No.334846
>>334830
What kind of body armor comes with shoulder pads?
da7d08 No.334849
>>334795
>If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all!
>Or else you're a fucking loser nerd LOL
You think this is a fucking safe space or something, you piece of shit?
54b415 No.334867
>>334864
>The M27 exists
>The Marines chose it
>This poor shit had to carry it
>He was also made an RTO
>T-tip of the s-spear
So many things had to go wrong for that guy to find himself in that position. Admittedly it's nowhere near as heavy as a SAW, but it's also not as useful.
b6dc70 No.334870
>>334867
when the Marines picked the HK IAR over all the real IAR entries I guessed the whole thing was a political move to get not-M4s in to the Marines… nope gonna use it as a SAW, Marines doing Marine things.
079a62 No.334871
>>334867
The M27 is mostly just used as a DMR, hence the fancy optic.
05aa8a No.334893
>>334867
Why is M27 bad exactly? I would google it, but I trust anons more than fudd websites
Is short-stroke < direct imp. for AR15 or what
079a62 No.334895
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>>334893
It's supposed to be a replacement for pic related.
05aa8a No.334901
>>334895
Why can't the boolet fanny pack be added to HK416, but can be added to Minimi?
Also, who needs covering fire when Aziz is using IEDs?
ea50d8 No.334902
>>334901
Because occasionally Haji likes to attack in numbers and occasionally one of them knows how to shoot.
985bc4 No.334903
>>334902
>>334895
Inb4 the US Army switches to a full powered belt fed machine gun within a few years What do you think happened with the RPK in a lot of ex-soviet countries?
05aa8a No.334905
>>334903
It got turned into automatic-heated spitroasting device?
It even has the wood flavour!
acfef1 No.334911
>>334893
>Why is M27 bad exactly?
The gun itself isn't bad but the "IAR" is just a newer version of the LSW, and anybody who has used one will tell you that it is unnecessarily heavy, impractical and way worse at being a machine gun than any actual machine gun.
The only thing it's actually good at is when in defense in a static position and you don't have an actual machine gun. And even there the only good parts of it are the longer barrel and bipod, one of which you can just buy and put on your own gun.
>>334903
The danish army has used a 7.62 MG3 as a single manned LMG for like 50 years. It's insanely heavy and a single deployment will fuck up your bones, but it's great in a firefight. The new M60E6 is even better. Easy single shots, disintegrating belts and way lighter. Only downside is that compared to the MG3 it's a bitch to disassemble and reassemble.
6467b2 No.334947
>>334903
The russians are actually replacing their RPK with PKP on many roles (including assault front units), they even made some ultra lightweight versions specifically for that
>>334911
I don't think the IAR is supposed to be used with drum (which was the dumbest part about the support M16 that spawned here and there). I believe this is mostly a change on their approach to combat, just long range support and having them working with some other unit when actual support is needed. That's just a guess. Among other shit, the IAR has a free-floated thicker barrel and some argue that the stupid piston system HK shoved into an AR handles continuos fire better than the original stoner "DI". Can't really attest or deny that, I always thought the AR action wasn't suited for continuos fire, but some videos seem to prove the opposite.
Back on topic, the newer HK stocks are convex and so is the new butt-end on the "new" tavor (X-95). As a matter of fact, most designers are going convex. I have very little experience with rifles having only fired some bolt action ones (and not even that many), but convex seems better to me.
cb5c38 No.334962
4bb446 No.335031
>>334786
I agree with the anons. Fuck off back to cuckchan if you want to attention whore with a trip like all the other cool kids.
fcaf10 No.335053
cdaa1e No.335130
54b415 No.335140
>>334893
My main gripe with it is that it's replacing a weapon that it can't match. Oh, sure it's more "accurate", but a SAW can hit at any range the M27 can hit while also having a 100rpm sustained rate of fire vs 36 for the M27, being open bolt (which helps when things get hot), and having a quick-change barrel for when things get really, really hot.
The SAW is built for the job, the M27 is not. Grunts love it because they don't have to carry a 17lb gun all over the place plus the ammo, but that doesn't make it a good replacement. If anything, it just replicates functionality with the muhreen equivalent of the EBR, which I'm fine with, other than the fact that the M27 still uses fucking 5.56 vs the bigger round on the EBR.
Really, M27 is just shit except for the fact that it's lighter. The claim that well aimed shots are equivalent to three shots from a SAW is not only ridiculous, it ignores the fact that you can aim your shots with a SAW. The two are not mutually exclusive. You can hit a lot of things with the SAW, out to 800m if you know how to use it.
This is like the BAR all over again.
b6dc70 No.335149
>>334893
it fills a weird niche and I'm not sure the Marines even know what they want out of it. they wanted something lighter than a SAW to use in modern urban ops.
the closest analogous would be the BAR, which is not a LMG but an "automatic rifle"
>>335140
which makes it weirder they didn't pick the other IAR submissions, any of the real IARs. any of the other options were better than the 416, even the Colt.
the Ultimax 100Mk5 and the FN IAR are fantastic.
05aa8a No.335434
>>334911
>>335140
>>335149
So it's not a good SAW, and it's not a a proper DMR
Amurik-ha replacing an LMG with a possibly more reliable, barely more useful, internally incompatible version of AR15.
DoD should just spend more money on drones, and less on diversity training
40ceac No.335437
>>335434
>DoD should just spend more money on drones, and less on diversity training
Well they are still getting drones either way
54b415 No.335464
>>335434
Dude, that's just the Marines. They are always trying to be special snowflakes. I mean, did you look at MARPAT? They actually put the EGA on that shit. It's part of the pattern. The RAT boots? EGA as well, but they get a pass because they're seriously good.
The Army, meanwhile is working on pic related. It weighs almost the same as the M27, and is a gas-operated, air-cooled, belt-fed, automatic weapon that fires from the open-bolt, you know, a fucking SAW.
b6dc70 No.335675
>>335464
do they leave an EGA with every footstep? lol
>>335434
it's just the Marines. 6,500 M27s for $13 Million, $2000 per system, hopefully including some replacement parts, not bad at all.
54b415 No.335687
>>335675
>do they leave an EGA with every footstep? lol
It's on the outside of the heel, so no, but that sounds like something they'd do.
f2bc3b No.335691
So, should he infantry use full powered cartridges in their belt fed machine guns? And how many machine gunners a squad should have?
54b415 No.335696
>>335691
As it is, we have both. Different tools for different jobs.
b6dc70 No.335697
>>335691
most militaries have medium machineguns as a team element and not a part of maneuvering squads. full power cartridges add A LOT of weight, but the reduced maneuvering is made up for in range, lots of range. LMGs to squads, MMGs to weapons elements is the best solution.
54b415 No.335742
>>335464
Forgot to add, the LSAT costs less than $3600, making it cheaper than the M249 when it was first adopted.
4310ef No.335960
>>334795
>tripfag
>right
choose one
54a28a No.335968
why don't we go with an open bolt AR-15 with a 20in pebbled barrel (for heat dissipation), lined with stellite?
i'm sure a few billion milbux can fix surefire's 50-100 round STANAGs
957b3b No.335973
>>335464
Will Trump make American small arms Great Again? Yes, i know the LSAT program bought the G11 patents, but this shit is being made here
b6dc70 No.335979
>>335968
the surefire mags are designed by the man himself jim sulivan and are very reliable. really tall though.