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 No.25086

is suicide an option=?

 No.25087

Not if you want to bang cute German leather boys, friend.


 No.25088

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You'll never wake up to this if you sudoku.


 No.25091

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> Life cannot simply be something to cling to. This thought skims through everyone at least once. We have a possibility that makes us freer than the gods: we can quit. This is an idea to be savoured to the end. Nothing and no one is obliging us to live. Not even death. For that reason our life is a tabula rasa, a slate on which nothing has been written, so contains all the words possible. With such freedom, we cannot live as slaves. Slavery is for those who are condemned to live, those constrained to eternity, not for us. For us there is the unknown—the unknown of spheres to be ventured into, unexplored thoughts, guarantees that explode, strangers to whom to offer a gift of life. The unknown of a world where one might finally be able to give away one’s excess self love. Risk too. The risk of brutality and fear. The risk of finally staring mal de vivre in the face. All this is encountered by anyone who decides to put an end to the job of existing.

> Our contemporaries seem to live by jobbing, desperately juggling with a thousand obligations including the saddest of all of them—enjoying themselves. They cover up the incapacity to determine their own lives with detailed frenetic activity, the speed that accompanies increasingly passive ways of behaving. They are unaware of the lightness of the negative.

> We can choose not to live. That is the most beautiful reason for opening oneself up to life with joy. ‘There is always time to put an end to things; one might as well rebel and play’—is how the materialism of joy talks.

> We can choose not to act, and that is the most beautiful reason for acting. We bear within ourselves the potency of all the acts we are capable of, and no boss will ever be able to deprive us of the possibility of saying no. What we are and what we want begins with a no. From it is born the only reason for getting up in the morning. From it is born the only reason for going armed to the assault of an order that is suffocating us.

> On the one hand there is the existent, with its habits and certainties. And of certainty, that social poison, one can die.

> On the other hand there is insurrection, the unknown bursting into the life of all. The possible beginning of an exaggerated practice of freedom.


 No.25093

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>>25086

Not for me, I have things I need to do, and someone would be very sad if I died before them.

Also, this kind of cheesy, but I want a good death, one fit for a hero. Not an-hero.


 No.25094

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>>25091

That's beautiful, friend.

I looked it up. Apparently it's anarchist philosophy written by an anonymous author?

It really rings true with what I've always felt. Life is not an obligation. No matter how boxed in you may feel, no matter how hopeless things may seem, you have the freedom to quit at any time.

Suicide is often thought to be "the coward's way out," but I feel this is unfair. Your life belongs to nobody but you. So if you decide that you're done, for whatever reason, then that's all you. It's entirely your decision. Nobody has the right to guilt you into staying.

At the same time, it emphasises that we are born free. Because we can quit at any time, that is the true meaning of freedom.


 No.25095

>>25094

>cowardice

>an expression of freedom

I see no reason why it can't be both.


 No.25102

nope, don't do it. I want to as well sometimes, but remember everyone dies at some point no matter what we do.So there's really no reason to rush.


 No.25107

Tentatively yes, if you have some kind of sickness that can't be cured. Especially something like Alzheimer's, where you lose your mind.


 No.25111

Pretty much nothing makes me happy and I tell myself every day I wanna die too but I sort of echo what this guy says.

>>25102

To further elaborate on it though I think most people will tell you suicide is an impulsive decision, you've gotta be spiking in despair to go actually go through with it and even in that state many people can't make themselves do it (plus your body's natural survival instincts kick in and override your hand if you don't do things correctly). You really don't want to fail at a suicide attempt and have to keep living having hurt yourself physically and with trauma that would make it hard to ever try again. Further still having police involvement after you're probably hopitalized and the government try and put you in a mental ward would be the worst.

After the risks are weighed it's not my place to tell you no. Whether or not you do it I hope you find peace Friend.


 No.25113

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>>25095

>I see no reason why it can't be both.

Fair enough, but I don't believe that this is true in most cases. The reason that people call it a cowardly act is that they see it as an easy way to get out of one's responsibilities and obligations. Specifically, the obligation one has to one's friends and family. The idea being that only a coward would leave them all behind to suffer and mourn without you.

I just don't think that's fair. Take Robin Williams' suicide. Obviously, he loved his daughter very much, but he still chose to go through with it. Maybe it is generally an impulsive decision, but depressed people are usually stewing in their desire to end it for a while.

Of course, OP didn't post this on /suicide/ so we can still hope that our friend changes his mind.


 No.25115

>>25091

Holy shit, that's brilliant


 No.25119

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>>25111

> Should one kill oneself? Killing oneself, though, implies some sense of resistance: one must possess a value that one can destroy. Where there is nothing, the destructive actions themselves crumble to nothing. You cannot hurl a void into a void. "If only a rock would fall and kill me," wrote Kierkegaard, "at least that would be an expedient." I doubt if there is anyone today who has not been touched by the horror of a thought such as that. Inertia is the surest killer, the inertia of people who settle for senility at eighteen, plunging eight hours a day into degrading work and feeding on ideologies. Beneath the miserable tinsel of the spectacle there are only gaunt figures yearning for, yet dreading, Kierkegaard's "expedient," so that they might never again have to desire what they dread and dread what they desire.


 No.25120

>>25119

Okay sure, I've heard the classic uttering of "I'd kill myself but but suicide is just such a hassle.". Same principle there, you aren't immediately desperate enough to override your survival instinct and the simple pleasures of being alive you take for granted even in a lousy living situation. Then there's the sort of fundamental guilt that you should feel the way you do. Putting loved ones and responsibilities aside you think it's a statement of your suffering compared to others or that you don't actually have anything to kill in your mind and you're such a screw-up you'd fail anyway with your non-abilities or non-conviction. One probably defaults to thinking they might as well let your body get weaker or hope beyond hope a miracle will happen that cheers them up and the trap of living mediocrity, nothingness or downright misery (most of us feeling like cattle) persists.

There is no winning though. You won't leave the world without feeling regrets and your execution of the act won't be satisying or in any way clean and unimpactful (or with real impact if that's what you'd rather go for). A saying about death that I find thought-provoking goes: "People don't fear death and their world ending, they're scared to die and then everything moving on like their existence doesn't matter.".


 No.25121

>>25113

/suicide/ is as a rule not for talking about your feelings and asking for convincing there's hope. They might show eachother sympathy after listing their reasons to want to die but it's still not a place to look for help coping with your feelings, just a place to discuss methods and maybe be morbid and romanticize death.


 No.25123

>>25121

Exactly. That's why I'm glad that this thread was posted here and not there.


 No.25125

>>25113

>hope that our friend changes his mind

Nothing in the OP even implies he's thinking about killing himself. Assumptions, and pseudo-psychological, I guess.

Anyway I'd rather not see this depressing shit on a board that I browse for fun. Hope next has hide, and report features like 8chan.


 No.25128

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>>25125

I get that this is a place for your leisure, your happy place even, but that kind of statement is terribly iffy to me. A board about kindness that shys away from any sort of negative feelings or subject matter is completely lacking in empathy or real respect and more about playing a game of pretend. Real kindness is being selfless in the end. Help others is even in the banner, people shouldn't be afraid to ask for it.

That said a thread dedicated to suicide stamped on the front page does put a rain on the mood everyone wants to pass around. I've seen it done before, threads asking to let your problems out but none seemed to have the right attitude about them. At any rate when this thread gets thrown away after more tinkering on the site gets done I propose there be two threads to handle this kind of thing. One for having people listen to you express your feelings and another for morality and ethics and whatnot. Those sensitive to less upbeat ideas should know well enough to stay away.


 No.25134

>>25121

>morbid and romanticize death.

Like Hindus?


 No.25181

Oops, unlocked.


 No.25193

>>25128

I agree. Being kind means helping friends when they're in trouble.


 No.25229

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>>25088

>>25088

>oppai piggu 3d

number puzzles it is!


 No.25238

>>25229

If you're saying there's an option then quit hiding the portal from us!


 No.25326

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

check this out and tell me what you think


 No.25351

>>25229

>likes girls who don't have penises

it would seem that you sir are the pleb


 No.25352

>>25326

>starts off by being a massive friendgot

>tones it down to moderate douchey but mostly tries to guilt trip or play up experiences a suicidal person doesn't care about

>Machinima

I'll be honest though, I went into it knowing nothing he would say would change my outlook but maybe I'd have gotten at least an emotional reaction to a few of his points if it weren't him saying them.


 No.25355

>>25326

this is fucking gay as shit. To clarify, I'm actually a homosexual and this guy might not be that, but he's definantly fucking gay


 No.25375

>>25326

…just looking at his stupid fucking face makes me not want to watch the video. He's definitely a mac.


 No.25388

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>>25375

Disgusting!


 No.25466

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>>25352

>>25355

>>25375

blah blah blah I was just trying to help, I thought this was the kind board

well next time I won't even bother helping


 No.25473

>>25466

Sorry I wasn't delicate enough Friend, it isn't fun have something you thought well of shit on.


 No.25478

Yes, the world would be a better place if people with no hope of getting out of their misery embraced it. The problem is of course determining who has chances of improving and who doesnt and what exactly constitutes misery, i'd venture to say economic status is the most important factor in this but not the only one. Alas the world needs cheap workers so society would never openly encourage or even consider it an option, its nice that small organizations like Dignitas exist though, that shows many are not alone in this.

>>25121

I think that's an awesome rule. Straight to the point. I realized it's not really as impossible as many make it seem, fully realizing I can easily quit anytime really changed my perspective but im not "cured" yet. Where does one go when you're close to your breaking point? /sad/ is slow as fuck and /mental/ is not particularly depression focused, /r9k/ or wizardchan are a joke when it comes to this and chats like 7cupsoftea feel like talking to a retardedly positive scripted bot.


 No.25491

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In Albert Camus' The Myth of Sisyphus, the reader is left to the question of whether or not it is ethical to go to sleep. According to Camus, all people, like Sisyphus, have the burden of living in a world in which they can never find meaning for any of their toils. As Sisyphus is left to wonder what reason he has to push a rock up a hill for all eternity, so too, do we as people have to wonder the reason that we are never gratified with an answer for our existence. Existence, according to Camus, is absurd, and there is nothing that we humans can do to change said existence. After all, existence existed before us; what recourse do we have to change that which we are but a small insignificant speck of?

Camus' conclusion is this: Though an escape from existence (suicide) may seem a logical recourse to an unfulfilling destiny, the act of doing so does not address the problem at hand. Suicide is an escape, not a confrontation. To confront the absurdity of meaninglessness, and therefore make attempt to change our reality, we must embrace the absurdity that is our existence. Camus suggests in his essay that every time Sisyphus walks back down the hill, he does not do so because he is forced to, he does so because he WANTS to. Absurdity gives birth to humor, which in turn gives birth to pleasure. And if the world is absurd, as Camus suggests, there should be no end to the amount of joy that can be derived from absurdist, mirthless tedium. Therefore, even if the world is crooked and torturous, a new perspective can create a positive connection to a negative experience through the lens of absurdity.


 No.25800

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>>25326

was never the biggest fan of this fellow. Never to blazing anger, but he just seems to feel like all of his views are correct without realizing there are other views and perspectives for other people. Also, he certainly doesn't know boundaries. I remember his joke video on 9/11. Now, I know most here aren't offended by something like that, but if you want to be respected for your serious views as how you present them, it's probably a bad idea to joke about 9/11, or insult a suicidal fan when you don;t know the situation. The list goes on..

Not to be rude, I appreciate your input. I have to say, though. I'm not sure if I agree with this man being a source of reliable advice.


 No.25801

>>25800

*and how you present them


 No.26020

>>25491

Hey friend, I never did reply to this, but I probably should have. This is a great addition and a very interesting read.


 No.26021

>>25491

>your life sucks, bro? just "change your perspective" and now it magically doesn't


 No.26023

>>26021

It's like you didn't even read his post.




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