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a9be5a No.2[Reply]

This board affirms the 5 solaes of the Protestant Reformation and 66 books of scripture.

Sola Scriptura

Sola Fide

Sola Gratia

Soli Deo Gloria

Solus Christus

http://www.fivesolas.com/5solas.htm

We affirm various creeds (Synod of Dort, Westminster Confession of Faith, Belgic Confession). I am a Reformed Baptist. So I affirm the doctrines of grace/Calvinism.

This board is welcome to all Christian denominations, and other various religions (Islam, Roman Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Hinduism, Mormonism).

However this board is really for the fellowship of Baptist, Lutherans, Anglicans, Episcopalians, Calvinist, Methodist, Pentecostals, Charismatics, Presbyterians and Evangelicals. Pretty much most if not all Protestant denominations that hold to the 5 solaes.

I welcome debate on doctrine, inter-religious debates and discussion.

The only reasons you will be banned are:

1. Posting pornography (especially child pornography)

2. S***posting, which is just essentially posting to stir up people

3. Post irrelevant stuff (that which has nothing to do with Christianity, the church, nor Christians)

4. Excessive foul language

Keep it clean and stay on topic, and you'll have a good time.

Note, I am not KJV-only.

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d9fb3b No.253

>>243

> I'm not suggesting you change it. Just do us all a favour and be very careful when you're choosing mods. ;^)

I felt the same way. So I felt like elaborating, which I did in the following post.



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b404de No.508[Reply]

How to restore the Church of England to it's former glory?

The church of England was perfect.

- Protestant

- Reformed (39 articles of the faith)

- Catholic

- Apostolic

- Liturgical

- Episcopal

- Common Book of Prayer

- Authorised King James Version

- Tradition

I for one suggest;

- Remove women as priests

- Go conservative

- Press harder on morality

- Offer the eucharist once a week

- Focus on liturgy

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8ef0ff No.539

>>508

- Made by a syphilitic madmen so he could commit adultery


7dccc5 No.542

>>539

You're screaming. You would like to stop this person's free speech, so you scream. It's not saying anything, it's only noise. You're screaming, man.


8ef0ff No.543

>>508

Reunite with Rome


7dccc5 No.545

Vatican-Roman "Catholics" want white countries to become "Catholic" so bad that they'll flood it with Mexicans to accomplish this.


8ef0ff No.546

>>545

wew lad, there's no need. The Irish migration of the 19th century already did that.

:^)



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a913a8 No.544[Reply]

Come visit >>>/rel/ and discuss faith with those of other faiths or lack there of.


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58b334 No.496[Reply]

Unfortunately, this board seems like it's now dead. There were probably plenty of shills responsible.

Good luck, on the boards /christ/ and /christian/.

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7f242a No.506

>/christian/

You mean /catholicism/ or /babylon/.

That's not a Christian board.


94412a No.534

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So… once a month then is all it will take to catch-up here


665fe7 No.535

>>534

Share the BOARD to other parts of the interwebz


921fac No.538

>>506

>sola fide

>b-but not for cathlolics!!!

Top kek prots


94412a No.541

>>538

NO

idea what you think you're saying, papist, but thanks for the contribution



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46f382 No.302[Reply]

Why was Calvin so wrong?

I can prove - without a doubt - that John Calvin is not one of the 'elect', and certainly won't be amongst those that are saved. And being a damned man, it invalidates his entire theological base, namely that of pre-destination, which many Protestant (heretical) 'churches' (i.e. sects) follow.

Calvin was quite a very petty man, and made it a point to ruin and even kill those that in any way were superiors to him in any way. We can start with the example of Sebastian Castellio, a very intelligent man who had become a Reformationist upon being moved by the agonized screams of 'heretics' put to death at the stake by the Inquisition. Initially, Castellio got on very well with John Calvin, upon arriving at Geneva. However, things began to change as others perceived Castellio as a man of greater intelligence and authority and piety than Calvin (in one well-known example, Castellio was the only member of the influential clergy who personally visited with those afflicted by scourge, offering words of comfort and praying with them, while Calvin hid in his house [funnily enough, why should Calvin have been afraid? For surely, according to him, he had been pre-destined to spread his 'true' version of the Gospel, and thus, would have survived the plague, meaning he was a hypocrite) which caused this petty man to devote himself to ruining Castellio, driving him to poverty in which he died, and only because of the intervention of the other intellectuals of Europe did Calvin not outright kill him.

Then we have the case of Michael Servetus, who was a Reformationist-minded man and even a friend of Calvin, though the latter eventually broke it off in the style of a triggered SJW/Tumblrina who can't bear to hear someone say something even slightly dissenting, even if it is politely and in good faith. Calvin then devoted himself to plan for Servetus' death, arranging for him to suffer a "painful death, for beheading is too kind", even though - being a foreigner -, the law of Geneva could not actually put him to death. However, through maneuvering entirely on his part, John Calvin was able to assure that Servetus was burned at the stake, and - due to his influence - was able to arrange for it to be as painful as possible (green wood was used, because it would burn slower and aPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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62d657 No.306

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>>302

>Michael Servetus

I fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinally get to use this meme

thought the day would NEVER come!


3382c4 No.307

>>302

>And being a damned man, it invalidates his entire theological base, namely that of pre-destination, which many Protestant (heretical) 'churches' (i.e. sects) follow.

While I do think Calvinism is a heresy, I don't see how that follows. How does whether he's damned or not have any bearing on the truthfulness of what he said in life?


96172b No.308

>>307

I just think its meme to spout heresy all to quickly on the internet. Did you become Christian so you could just use that word?

Why is Calvinism heresy? Have you actually read the Bible in a meaningful way? Or you just some lapse Christian who thinks about Jesus every blue moon?


678d08 No.490

>>308

Exactly. And why doesn't he take this to one of the middle-ground Christian boards here, when this is the one for Protestant Christians.

→ >>302 ??


83a679 No.540

I'm interested in this.

If Calvinism is true, why did Calvin do such horrible things?



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7b86e0 No.514[Reply]

According to Scripture, what is said of wearing a cross necklace?

Other than reminding me to avoid sin and to follow the Commandments, it's also a visual cue people can take so they don't approach me and talk to me about their daily degeneracy.

0d39b7 No.517

>>514

It's good but nothing to fancy. I've always liked the Eastern Orthodox ones. But plenty of degenerates have them on anyway.


9d2874 No.521

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>>514

>According to Scripture, what is said of wearing a cross necklace?

>According to Scripture

Nada. Neither mandated nor warned against. Early Christians didn't, but the Cross had quickly gained currency as the key symbol of the Church, as did the fish when oppression kicked-in

THAT SAID, Jesus was quite emphatic about the traditions of the Jews with their Tefillin bound on the arm and head, and how absurd they'd turned a reminder into a religious obligation of negligible meaning. So, a Cross is fine as a reminder to yourself, but you are risking relying on a totem rather than the Spirit of God. Just remember, there's nothing official or extra holy about it – it's juuuuuust a piece of jewelry.

For this reason I stopped wearing mine. My mark is the Spirit of God within me, not some silver piece of jewelry.

>so they don't approach me and talk to me about their daily degeneracy.

I lol'd, and pic related

Again, that said, we are meant to be marked by the Love of God, not some piece of external show (which is why I don't think priests/vicars/pastors should wear dog-collars). People will quickly learn to avoid telling you about their daily degeneracy if you respond with the Word of God or remind them that, despite all the degeneracy they engaged in, God is still waiting with open arms for them to embrace Him.

Yeah, they'll know what to share and what not after that. (kek) But, neither should that really be your goal. Remember, you were called to live IN the world, to be just another of the guys in the world. Inevitably there will be things you have to tell your mates you do not want to hear, but you shouldn't be so distant or different to them that they don't come near you. That said, we shouldn't be compromised by the world, either. Yes, it is a tough balancing act you have your entire life to still not get right. ;^)

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62f2e3 No.531

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>>514


9d2874 No.533

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>>531

>Jesus Christ Hates Crosses and Crucifixes because He died on one and that event was so traumatic He's still got PTSD over it all, and you wearing a Cross/Crucifix is keeping His Spirit at bay because you'll trigger Him if He sees it

(pic related)

This from the same guy that has more helpful videos entitled

- Jesus Christ Hates The Bible because no one was writing it down at the time, and the person who wrote it was engaged in a power grab which Jesus now resents

- Jews, Christians & Muslims All Believe The Same Thing

- Christians & Bible Thumpers Claim Jesus is Evil

- Original Sin is a Lie - Everyone is Born Pure and Innocent

srsly, gtfo and take your fail with you


3b16cc No.536

>>514

It's good, but don't be too flashy about it unless you can take the attention with humility.



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cf1bf8 No.530[Reply]

>2016

>being a pagan


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4395ac No.507[Reply]

Is Luther's reasoning that the non-Christian is wrong because he attributes glory to himself instead of God meant to be applied even when he doesn't recognize glory, or doesn't attribute it to anything?

57a4e0 No.509

>>507

What do you mean by glory?


7f9833 No.513

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>>507

>meant to be applied even when he doesn't recognize glory, or doesn't attribute it to anything?

ESPECIALLY when.

My ignorance of what red means on those big three-light posts at intersections does not mean I didn't just break the law.

Whether a nonny recognises it or not, SOMEONE is king of their lives, someone is making aaaaaaall the decisions, is the ultimate authority in their lives, and someone is reaping the rewards for all their efforts. Now they can give their boss the glory, or their spouse, even their children, or the company, or perhaps their country or its regent, or even their pastor, priest or Pope can get the glory, or maybe it is a mix of everyone and mostly themselves, but someone or something is getting it. Someone is being obeyed, someone is being put highest in the pecking order of priorities on how the nonny makes their decisions.

That person is, de facto, getting the glory.

To give God the glory is to vacate the throne in our inmost heart and say to God, "Only you can sit here."

And before you say, "Hurr durr, everyone is forced to obey others, everyone and anyone can defer their obedience, and thereby give the glory to another, even Christians do this", I am not being flippant here. Of course everyone has people to obey, but they don't get the glory because, at some point, they are not the ultimate boss, they may one day ask me for something a Christian will not give because it belongs to God alone, such as worship.

Refer the Book of Daniel, when he refused to worship the great statue and stop worshiping his God. Daniel would obey the king in all things, willingly prostrate for the king, but not on this. Daniel was saying, "Only God gets the glory; I obey you, King, because God has made you king, and I obey God."

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4395ac No.515

>>509

I just assumed he meant "glory" as in "an ideal thing. primarily associated with superiority, smugness, and stuff like that. Hence the joke that an ego who could take glory would be a spook.

>>513

>Refer the Book of Daniel, when he refused to worship the great statue and stop worshiping his God. Daniel would obey the king in all things, willingly prostrate for the king, but not on this.

Looks like it just means to never stop worshipping God.



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3ac719 No.500[Reply]

Who the f-ck is Kodi Maybir?!

Both the Fairfax papers and ABC have had the story of this guy as one of their top stories, which is fine, except that EVERY time they mention him, there's three (or four) words prefixing or post-fixing his name: Christian hip hop artist or Christian music producer

I thought I knew sh!t about the hip-hop scene, but apparently not, cuz I have never heard of this guy. So, two questions: is he famously Christian and is he famously a hip-hop artist/producer 'cuz if I go by the headlines, I might be inclined to think this is the ABC and Fairfax doing their little atheist dance on a child's grave.

So, on ABC 8 Oct 2015, 2:33pm

>Kodi Maybir trial: Man who initially blamed pogo stick fall for boy's death admits he lied

>A hip-hop artist initially blamed a pogo stick fall for the death of his girlfriend's son in Sydney's south, but later admitted this was false, a court has heard.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-08/kodi-maybir-accused-of-killing-boy-admits-lying-about-death/6836908

So, he's a hip-hop artist, although there's no mention of that in the story, but we'll assume it's the same as saying "truck driver", his job, but there's no mention of his being a Christian.

And then Stephanie Boulet, whoever she is, takes over the reporting four days later from ABC's court reporter, Karl Hoerr, as follows:

>Christian music producer accused of killing girlfriend's son subjected him to a 'Spartan regime', court hears

>A Christian music producer subjected his girlfriend's son to a "Spartan-like regime" in the months leading up to his death which…

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995c7e No.501

>>500

As an Australian myself you should have learnt a long time ago that our media is terribly biased towards the left. ABC is especially biased. Just watch one of their debate shows. Or Lateline. All the panel are left-leaning socialist atheists.

They are biased on immigration, gun control, wealth inequality, taxation and of course they are going to be against Christianity.

ABC is far on the left but then just watch channel 7 twist Donald Trump's words. It's appalling. If you are attacking anything which isn't "politically correct/appropriate" and that is Christianity, along with economic liberalism, then they are allowed to go all out with ad hominem attacks, straw mans and lies.


3ac719 No.503

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I guess I would be severely remiss if I didn't also add that the annoyance at the way the story was headlined was second to my initial revulsion at the idea anyone who calls on the name of Christ – if that's what this guy does – could beat a seven year-old to death. After all, that's the whole reason I read the article. But, I don't post "angry facebook posts" to /kjv/ because, y'know

>not my personal blog.

Seems it's worse than just beatings, btw:

>Soon after the woman began adopting religious views and a parenting philosophy of toughening the kids up in the way of the Spartans, as seen in the movie 300.

I don't think these people have the highest of IQs.

>…(kid had) moderate intellectual disability…

>…starved, beaten, forced to wear nappies … forced to run on a beach until the point of exhaustion…

>…he was also forced to eat his own faeces, stand on a coffee tin for hours…

>…wasted away, covered in bruises and his bones riddled with fractures…

>…One woman saw the starving boy being forced to watch his siblings share a bacon and egg roll while he got nothing, and being fed only bread and water while the rest of the family had chicken rolls and cordial…

>…Video footage taken by his mother and her partner would chart the sickening reign of terror that would turn him into a cowering, fearful child weighing just 20kg and his body a mass of bruises, infected wounds and both fresh and healing bone fractures…

>…Thereafter the boy’s siblings are encouraged to circle him and punch and hit him as an adult in the background shouts ‘Yeah’ at every strike and the younger sibling is egged on with, ‘Tell him we’re going to do this from now on’…

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995c7e No.504

>>503

Where's the original article?


3ac719 No.505

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>>504

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3019034/Is-Australia-s-horrific-case-child-abuse-Boy-7-died-starved-forced-eat-waste-beaten-siblings-God-fearing-step-dad-filmed-mother-claimed-fallen-pogo-stick.html#ixzz3W0QjhwxF

>>501

>As an Australian myself you should have learnt a long time ago that our media is terribly biased towards the left. ABC is especially biased. Just watch one of their debate shows. Or Lateline. All the panel are left-leaning socialist atheists.

Well, see, I don't have an issue with people, even in the media, being "left-leaning socialist atheists". Heck, I expect it. All sorts of people in this world, and very few of us honour the Lord. And since I have pretty strong opinions, I expect many others will, too. And the media is as close to creative careers most leftfags are going to get, and it's well-established the arts is 99% leftist, if only because we God-centered Christians avoid the arts because the arts is for fluffy people, not hard-nosed, Bible-believing Christians, so we simply surrendered it to the enemy a long time ago. After all, count the number of people in your church in the arts. Now count how many are entrepreneurs or business managers.

Consequently, I don't care if the media bang-on about:

>immigration, gun control, wealth inequality, taxation and of course they are going to be against Christianity.

… and maybe that's because I am not a right-winger, myself. My politics is antithetical to anything Andrew Bolt. And maybe my bias-tolerance is higher than yours because my standard for "atheism-bias" would be Christopher Hitchens. That guy was plain rabid. If they had him on Lateline, I'd want William Lane Craig as a minimum fPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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9a1585 No.342[Reply]

>"Nowhere nor in anything, except in the assertion of the Church, can we find that God or Christ founded anything like what churchmen understand by the Church"

(Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You)

>"I am strongly of the opinion that churches are useless and mischievous institutions, and the sooner they are dissolved the better"

(John Foster (1770-1843), Baptist essayist, letter, 10 Sept 1828)

>The entire system of the institutional church is unbiblical.

>The word "church" is unbiblical. King James ordered that the scholars working on the King James Version translate the Greek word ekklēsia as "church" as a way to maintain the established church with him as its head in England.

http://www.wordofhisgrace.org/recommendchurchqa.htm

http://www.wordofhisgrace.org/ekklesia.htm

Thoughts, /kjv/?

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9a1585 No.370

>>369

Part 3 of 5

And I was happy to let this thread slide into oblivion until tonight when I saw something that reminded me why words matter.

We who are here all know this because most, if not all of us, are refugees (or interjecting visitors) from /catholic/ … uh, I mean, /christian/. And as individual posts and indeed whole threads there will have reminded you, there are many, many, many Catholics who simply cannot practically distinguish between the "Church" that Christ would build on the rock of Peter, and the institution that is commonly known as the Catholic Church. How many fights were fought over this issue on that board? How many times did you read protestants were heretics outside the Body of Christ primarily because we were schismatics from the Church in Rome. How many times did you read that

Now, this isn't about re-fighting the good fight on /christian/. I don't care anymore that Catholics want to build an exclusive little club on /christian/, which, I think it fair to say, the BoardVol made plain was his preference. Orthodox were more welcome because, it seems most Catholics believe a reunion is inevitable. (I'm not sure most Orthodox would agree, but that's beside the point.)

The reason this matters is that Catholics feel very protective of their institution because they live under this mistaken conception that confuses "Church" (the ekklesia built upon the rock of Peter) and "Church" (the institution headed by a Pope). They call it "her", an institution of great veneration, that they defend sometimes even to the death, for to besmirch or offend "her" is to besmirch the very corpus of God!!

Yet, we protestants don't hold this view. One of the reasons Luther protested in 1517 was because of the abuses by leaders of an institution, leaders who were entrusted with the souls of tens of millions of people who looked to them to guide them on the road to God's salvation, and they were, at best, lax and lazy with that trust, and, at worst, abusing it.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


9a1585 No.371

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>>370

Part 4 of 5

Yes, I saw the film "Spotlight" tonight.

And immediately, I expect a dozen backs are up because they finally see where they think I was going with this thread all along. They will now accuse me of using a tragedy to tear down a two-thousand years-old institution, but the truth is I am not.

See, I hate injustice, particularly that of those in power.

I remember watching a film years ago called "Romero". If you'd not seen it, and I expect most won't have, it was a really good film. Its subject matter, though, the assassination of a conservative but dictatorship-challenging Archbishop Oscar Romero, incensed me. The junta government – those who seized power yet still bore the full divine charge to be godly kings over the country – had orchestrated the assassination. It was official injustice.

And I hate this, I believe, because my God does and I am both made in his image and being remade in his image as his Son by divinely-elected adoption. How often does God rail in the old testament against unbalanced scales, those who take bribes to be unjust?

Same goes for Cardinals, Archbishops, Bishops and all other officials who were also in power and thereby ALSO bore the full divine charge to be godly stewards over the people – and worse yet, in this case some of the very ekklesia ("those called out from") of God – conspired against and corruptly frustrated justice?

Why, you might ask, because Priests were committing sins?

Well, yes, that is part of it, but that's a case of sinners will be sinners. Even the most godly of us sin. This is a world brimming with the iniquity of our corruption, scarred almost beyond recognition by the curse of Adam. Horrible as it might sound, I consider pedophile priests an inevitability, and not just because they'rPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


9a1585 No.372

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>>371

Part 5 of 5

My point to all this, then, should, I hope by now, be clear.

By misinterpreting "ekklesia" to mean "church", meaning a building, an occasion of worship, the clergy or officialdom of a religious body as opposed to the laity, the clerical profession, the institutionalized forms of religion or an organization of religious believers … rather than "those called out from" the world, officials in those organisations have conducted horrible injustices, both recent and throughout history, in the name of preserving their mistaken concept for the Body of Christ.

Rather than protecting the "ekklesia" Christ was building, they were protecting an organisation that happened to include many members – but not all of them – of the Ekklesia.

I want to be clear that NOT ALL Catholics contend their Church is Christ's "Ekklesia", indeed, many might even emphatically deny it. But, in practical terms, most seem to believe this. Just like I do not think all Catholic hierarchy members, such as pic-related, are complicit in the crimes the film depicts, even by association. Though, I have a deep concern that certain Cardinals are now sunning it in the Vatican when they should, by all that is just, have served time in a state penitentiary. Nonetheless, I don't hold, for example, Bishop Barron accountable for that, nor thousands or millions of others.

SO, when Tolstoy says, "Nowhere nor in anything, except in the assertion of the Church, can we find that God or Christ founded anything like what churchmen understand by the Church" and when Baptist preacher John Foster says, "I am strongly of the opinion that churches are useless and mischievous institutions, and the sooner they are dissolved the better", perhaps now you have a better idea of why.

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8b0f15 No.375

>>372

Thanks for posting, interesting read.

Re: the home church movement in china (sorry I don't know how to green text), my grandma gave me a book called "the heavenly man" about a man called Brother Yun who went through great persecution in China to spread the gospel. I haven't finished it because it made me want to re-read a couple of books my mum sent me in the summer last year by Dave Tomlinson (google him he's very controversial) who I think came up through the house church movement in the 80s in the UK and ran a "church" in a pub in the 90s called Holy Joes.

My parents came through the same kind of scene when they were growing up also. I am just starting to come back to Christianity now after my 15 or so years away from it as a teenager/young man thanks to these books.

We attended a church in my hometown when I was younger which I've no idea what kind it was. I'm only just starting to learn about all the denominations and what they mean and how they view different aspects of Christianity. People went nuts in that place, but anyway, at some point I think around 2000 the church leader went "scru dis ish church ain't a building ima outta here" and it ceased to run/exist, I guess taking on the view expressed in the previous posts to a certain extent.

My parents haven't returned since but, although I haven't/don't talk about religion with my parents, am aware my Dad wants to start going to one again where as my ol' ma' doesn't. My told me it was my mum who sent me the Dave Tomlinson books and that he doesn't agree with them at all. I am really looking forward to seeing him (he hasn't been to London since my graduation 2 years ago and lives 6 hour drive/train away) and asking him about his views on theology and stuff, although I'm a bit scared that he might have some very odd views.

Anyway, sorry for the ramble, I actually meant to just say check out the heavenly man book, it you're interested: http://www.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


349fd9 No.491

Church, like most places, is what one makes of it. In fact, tne typical parish is much less bureaucratic than most institutions.



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d1ec3f No.411[Reply]

Vicfailian here.

I had no idea Premier Baird was a /kjv/-boy?!

>Regent College, BC, Canada

>transdenominational evangelical protestant institution

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4915ea No.445

>>443

Come on. I am for humanitarian aid and let in actual refugees but most of these people are ISIS cells.


800052 No.450

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>>445

>but most of these people are ISIS cells

SSSSSOOOOOOOOO MAAAAAAANNNNNYYYYY IMPLYING IMPLICATIONS


a551c5 No.457

>>435

He probably does, but that's the respectable conservative position. If all politicians were required to belong to the establishment church, and therefore more-or-less in line with this politician, then there wouldn't be so many radicals pulling in the direction of getting the third-world flood, and none of those radical anti-whites would be in positions of power.

http://blog.jim.com/


1d64ff No.459

>>450

What? They are ISIS sympathizers. Learn more about Islam. Also the vast number of them are men aged 18-25. They responsible for the sex attacks in Germany and most of them just want our welfare.


a6981f No.489

I'm kind of interested in pan-Anglo identity, but I'm not Aussie specifically.



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fede65 No.396[Reply]

>N.R. Needham’s 2,000 Years of Christ’s Power, Vol. 1: Age of the Early Church Fathers, part of a very accessible but well-informed multi-volume survey of church history. On pp. 66-75 he outlines a fairly typical church service in the second century (A.D. 101-200), based on descriptions and instructions found in the early Church fathers.

>Part 1: Service of the Word

>1. Opening greeting by bishop and response by the congregation. Often, the bishop would say “The Lord be with you” and the congregation would respond, “And with your spirit.”

>2. Old Testament Scripture reading. Usually read or chanted by a deacon.

>3. Psalm or hymn (I). Chanted or sung.

>4. New Testament Scripture reading (I). This first NT reading was from any NT book outside the gospels.

>5. Psalm or hymn (II).

>6. New Testament Scripture reading (II). From one of the four gospels.

>7. Sermon. Delivered by the bishop, while seated.

>8. Dismissal of all but baptized believers.

>Part 2: The Eucharist

>1. Congregational prayers. The prayer leader—the bishop in the West; senior deacon in the East—would announce the first topic. The congregation prayed silently for a while. Then the leader summed up the petitions with his own spoken prayer. Then he would do the same pattern again with a new topic. This was a lengthy part of the service. Early Christian art suggests that a typical posture from praying was standing, looking heavenward, with arms outstretched and palms up.

>2. The Lord’s Supper. Here’s the order: (1) the bishop offered a greeting; (2) the congregation responded; (3) there was a “kiss of peace” (men to men, women to women); (4) church members brought their own small loaf of bread and flask of wine from home; the deacons took these and spread them out on the Lord’s table, emptying the flasks of wine into one large silver cup. (5) The bishop and the congregation engaged in a liturgical “dialogue” with the congregation; (6) the bishop led the congregatioPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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6d3ce8 No.441

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>>439

Sorry, when I said "optional" I mean that it isn't part of every service, not that the individual does or doesn't have the option to partake.

And, in my specific churches tour, isn't in services at all.

>>440

>So I understand why they don't do it too often since we are saved. We are not being saved everyday.

Yeah, I agree. I'm not suggesting it is anything more than thanksgiving, and I agree with your logic. But, I'm not talking about it being something that's in one-of-four services, I'm talking about that it isn't in any and how I think that is just wrong.

>I love it. I would love to attend a high church Lutheran church or Presbyterian one. What denomination are you?

Well, the services I'm referring to are, obviously, Anglican (Episcopalian if you're American). But, if you asked this:

>What denomination are you?

…in general terms, I'm not really anything in particular.

I wasn't born into the church – though I was the only one of my siblings "Christened" Anglican – but into a practical atheist family. So, given I converted courtesy of an evangelical Christian para-church group, I have no particular allegiances, denomination-wise.

I cross the "Christian" box on our censuses partly because it's none of their beeswax, and mostly because I really do not identify with any denomination other than Christ.

Needless to say, on combative /christian/ I came to filling in the generic protestant box because… y'know… that place was feral…

That said, I really am a pretty die-hard evangelical (reformed, even) protestant. But, I've attended everything from Pentecostal to Presbyterian churches.

And while I haPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


e7d2fe No.462

>>441

>Orthodox

It seems cuckservative to say that a foreign branch of Christianity is the one that is "orthodox" or "correct".


bbc8e2 No.463

>>441

I am assuming you're in the UK. Are there any conservative Anglican churches in the UK? Like ones that don't ordain women and preach from the Cosmopolitan. I live in Australia I would love nothing more than to attend a nice conservative Anglican church.


bbc8e2 No.464

>>462

Their soteriology is messed up and they heretics.


2f565b No.488

>>464

Yes, they are suspiciously like the syncretism of Christianity and steppe paganism, Mongolian-style.

Their's isn't a godly place, and there are plenty of idols or near idols around such as extra weight placed on icons and relics.



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e26c98 No.468[Reply]

Assume that I am an atheist, or agnostic due to ignorance, I have never been exposed to Christianity and don't believe in God or Gods. I meet Christians and develop an interest in their religion, and they direct me to the Bible.

How can I gain a Testimony of Jesus Christ? How can I read the Bible and believe it to be a text unlike any other, mystical in nature because the Creator of the Universe (or whomever) had a hand in its creation. Is it automatic, like you read it and you know? Must it be read a certain way? Must I meditate and get some kind of "answer" from the spirit realm?

How can the Bible make me believe in the God it testifies of? How did it make you believe?

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0e0305 No.477

>>475

Every single argument against Christianity is self-defeating. Atheistic reasoning is often the weakest most senseless of them all though. Because of this, they've resorted to declaring themselves undeservedly as the more rational and Christians as the intellectually deficient. It's superficial and stupid.


81012f No.478

>>477

> Because of this, they've resorted to declaring themselves undeservedly as the more rational and Christians as the intellectually deficient. It's superficial and stupid.

Exactly. They have infiltrated academia and now have a de facto monopoly on reason. You aren't reasonable if you aren't an atheist or if you are Christian keep it to yourself or otherwise adhere to a liberal universalist/inclusivist denomination.

It's quite annoying knowing many great scientist are Christian but the masses are being deceived by the Zionist media will buy it.


4ba4da No.479

>>478

>It's quite annoying knowing many great scientist are Christian

Sir Isaac Newtos comes immediately to mind.


4ba4da No.481

>>468

What do you mean by Testimony of Jesus Christ? That may be something particular to whatever denomination of Christian you're interacting with, but I'm not familiar. Could you explain what that part means, Anon.?


4ba4da No.487

>>475

Trying for a plain version of scripture is not the right way.



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06847d No.86[Reply]

http://triablogue.blogspot.com.au/2007/08/liberal-orthodoxy.html

http://triablogue.blogspot.com.au/2007/08/liberal-orthodoxy-encore.html

http://triablogue.blogspot.com.au/2013/10/whats-wrong-with-pope-francis.html

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73fb70 No.119

>>86

I like that pic

always amuses me

>>106

>Seems to me like the only sure way to avoid liberalism in a church is to rely on the infallibility of the Bible actually BE a Christian.

Not disagreeing with you on the Bible, but believing in the Bible and being an actual Christian can be two different things.


06847d No.133

>>117

God has an elect is what I mean by predestination see my thread on Calvinism with the quote by St. Augustine as the picture.

>>119

> always amuses me

It's all yours : ^ )

> Not disagreeing with you on the Bible, but believing in the Bible and being an actual Christian can be two different things.

You crossed out infallibility of the Bible, do you not hold to the inerrancy of the Bible? I got great material on supposed contradictions in the gospel accounts by great NT scholars, even the ones Ehrman brings up.

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73fb70 No.137

>>133

>You crossed out infallibility of the Bible

Only so I could insert my text.

>I got great material on supposed contradictions in the gospel accounts by great NT scholars, even the ones Ehrman brings up.

kek

Thanks for your enthusiasm, brother, but there's no need for my sake. As I wrote, I am as "Biblical inerrancy" as the next dyed-in-the-wool Christian, I was just making a point that our biggest defense against liberalism is the Spirit of God Himself, not just? his Word.

I'm not belittling the Word, note. I am elevating the One who wrote it, who breathes life into us to be able to read it, understand it, and be convicted by it. All these things are FAR more important to our faith, to our staying IN the faith, than simply words on a page.

Do you follow me? I'm making a distinction between us and, say, orthodox Jews who probably know the words of the OT better than us, but have not life. Words will not save us, and that great whore-of-Babylon website the name of which escapes me, but the one which pulls the Bible apart … the anti-Bible… yeah, I forget… the Atheist's best friend website, I guess… is proof of that. They have the book, they have the words, but they have no faith.

They have not the Spirit.

This was my point, and we should always be mindful of who it is in our heads that preaches those words to us every morning.


06847d No.141

>>137

Oh yes I absolutely agree.


80c1cc No.480

>>137

They don't really have the book though, unless you meant the Talmud.



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fefff5 No.408[Reply]

What parts of the Bible are literal fact and what parts of the Bible are allegory, poetry and metaphor?

What parts must be interpreted literally, and (if any) what parts must be interpreted figuratively? What are the consequences of interpreting scripture incorrectly in this specific context?

I'm using definitive language for the sake of clarity but this is obviously a matter of opinion.

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90f166 No.454

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>>444

Okay, so this might have been a better image to put into this post: >>453

Some slides outlining what I was talking about, why knowledge acquisition is an exponential curve


90f166 No.455

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>>444

Aaaaaaand, one last crack at an answer because re-reading your post and my reply, I don't think I made this point clear:

>The mind is either that of a not human or of a human, so 100,000 years ago we were just as capable as we are now and 6,000 years ago.

The key word is capable.

We were always just as capable of the same things our descendants will do with their flying cars and android friends, but we do not have the same knowledge as our descendants will have. And, as I said, knowledge begets knowledge.

Likewise it is with the first humans: same ability to understand the world, absolutely negligible knowledge-base. They knew nothing, and then they started – if we assume a 100,000 year old humanity – drifting apart and forming nomadic tribes, not talking to each other, not sharing their knowledge very efficiently or effectively, and not until they decided to settle and grow some food did they start with the knowledge sharing and then the inventing.

Again, I'm not going in to bat for one argument or the other. I just think you should understand your opponents' arguments before you try to start shooting holes in them.

Alright, I'm done now.


55723f No.460

>>408

Catholics are heretics. The pope is even in a gay kissing relationship with the eastern church now.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0VL26B


d9e66a No.466

>>408

Catholics are heretics. The pope is even in a gay kissing relationship with the eastern church now.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0VL26B>>408


77fb5c No.467

>>466

Yes, if you mean Roman Catholics, also called Trentians.

Ref.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Trent



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