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Next Town Hall Meeting

Next meeting:

https://webchat.freenode.net/

Channel #kountry

12/12/2015 8pm Eastern

http://strawpoll.me/6018789

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Rebuilding

The staff roster needs to be updated to reflect whom and how many of us are still behind this goal. I will arrange for a couple of all staff email mail-outs as a last ditch attempt to reconnect /kountry/ with those who signed up, after that I envision arranging for the current staff roster to be replaced with a new document.

An urgent matter that needs to be dealt with is finding a visually user-friendly chat room that can support at least 50 participants simultaneously.

Another matter is finding funding for server hosting costs to set up our website with secure encrypted forums / imageboard, etc.

If there are other matters, please raise them in this thread and we'll work towards it one way or another.

I have made Underwatch and Terranull moderator's for /kountry/ in the event that I am unavailable to check in for a few days or whatever. We won't have a repeat of not having an Admin or Mod to clean up when necessary.

The future is bright, do not lose hope friends.
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Welcome to /kountry/

To all interested parties who wish to contribute to the goal of setting up an independent territory, welcome.

Things have slowed down over the past few months and we have much rebuilding to do in terms of our online community but feel free to continue to click on the following Google document links and register your details.

TASKS AND ROSTER: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DL23KVpG3A-cBcKUQn51mU3H5PRMyciYvrrCNCYTmao/edit#gid=0

BRAINSTORMING OUTER HEAVEN: https://docs.google.com/document/d/17HzC_dxSUdwRLO4RAHH6a_a9ZZK5ETj47tGgI631NGk/edit

Welcome aboard.



03/17/2015
For a long time this board had no active admin and I have finally managed to gain access.
I have deleted a couple of posts (yiff/scat) but everything else seems to be in order.
If there is anything I can do to help, just post and I will be in touch as soon as practicable.
- The New Admin.
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Pacific Colonisation

http://fishbowl.boards.net/

Looks like I've made more progress in two months than you guys have in over a year.

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Niue

I think I found the perfect place to set up shop. It's an island close to New Zealand called Naui. It's got a small population, fertile land, and country wide WiFi. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niue
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Building the force

I'm finally back and ready to talk about applying the stuff i touched on too long ago in >>334

this time i'll be dealing more in specifics.

pictured are some examples of a Troop, Organization, and Equipment(TOE) chart

reading it you can see all ranks, vehicles, weapons, and sensitive items allocated to the listed company in a streamlined manner.

starting at >871 I discussed the principles of building and training a force from scratch and how organiziation is the most importnt factor in that. now we'll be putting it into practice.

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Is this still happening? Any updates? Anything?

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So what should be our national anthem? I nominate this.

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Who's going to fund us? This seriously needs to be discussed before we talk about anything else. I'd be surprised if we even managed to rake up $2,500. How are we going to get the money to do this.
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Island thread. post possible abandoned island options. also their plusses and minuses.

i choose clipperton,
+
close to US and mexico, easy access to make trips for resources.
100 people used to live there
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Project Europa

Hey guys, so i remember when this started out in late 2013 or early 2014 and i remember that one yellow flag with a nugget in it and 2 guns.

So does anyone still have the link to the forums that we created ? I'm pretty sure we had our own website where we talked about this stuff and at the end we decided to wait until one anon got all the stuff he needed to create his own weapons factory or his own merc something like that.

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Due to the fact that there probably won't be very many people in the /k/ountry I don't think we need to bother with a traditional method of government.

Consider this; with so few people it would be easy for everyone's voice can be heard. I suggest every home having a computer. At the end of every day issues of government (eg taking a contract, spending of funds etc) can be put to a vote by everyone. which ever gets the most votes is the direction the country will take.

An example- A contract is offered to protect aid workers in west africa. At the same time a contract for providing security to a vulnerable US embassy in the middle east is offered as well. The decision is put to a vote at the end of the day. Votes are registered on our secure local area network and the will of the people is seen in real time, not just what the 5 believe the will of the people to be.
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Change of Plans

Slight change of plans regarding what I've been doing lately. I might be buying 80 acres in Nevada for /k/ related endeavors.

We'll how this plays out. Updates will come as events unfold.

Also this: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1fEENLKMxTwVNZZbi4lWT8uefuNeHr_ocLdPuHCWC9NY/edit?usp=sharing
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Reasons for joining?

I figure a good way to get some additional traffic in the board is to have something all of us can talk about: Why are we all joining?

I'll go first: I'm too jaded to really care for a whole lot, and if I didn't want to do this, I would just be a vagrant wandering the U.S. then eventually wherever else.

[spoiler] And for my mentor-fu The Boss [\spoiler]

Feel free to post any informational things too, like pic related.

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Just some news that's been doing the rounds, in case you've missed it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberland (Serbo-Croatian No Man's Land)

https://www.kingdomsudan.org/page/embassies/ (Bir Tawil)

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If this does happen I'd like the our battle rifle to be a FAL knockoff chambered in .35 whelen.
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Agriculture

I've started doing some research into agriculture and this is what I've come up with so far.

For our staple crop, corn seems to be the best option, especially as we do not yet have a location decided and corn grows well in many climates, especially in most of Africa and parts of the Indian Ocean.

Irrigation is a must as it could potentially double crop yield, and is also not as hard as I would have imagined: https://www.engineeringforchange.org/news/2012/01/23/ten_low_tech_ways_to_irrigate_crops.html

In terms of livestock, unless we somehow capture huge tracts of land it is unlikely we will be able to sustain a decent supply of beef and pork. Chicken is feasible as it is a much smaller animal and can live off corn and a large variety of foods and will of course produce eggs. Though if the area of land we settle in includes some coastline then fishing would be a good source of food, however setting up a proper fishing boat would be expensive. (I've not looked into it in much detail, maybe someone from team 2 knows more about this?)

It is possible that we could keep a small herd of cows for a supply of milk but as I said, cows require a lot of energy and land to rear.

Any thoughts on this?
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Houseboats/ Barges

Some anon mentioned houses/Barges to live on. so let me dump some Pics and lets discuss aswell.
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I think I may have an idea of where to start trial runs of the /kountry/

http://www.sliptalk.com/abandoned-town/?utm_source=fb-abandoned&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=abandoned-town
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The latest PMC action in Africa

"In this excerpt, VICE News correspondent Kaj Larsen embeds with an operational air wing provided by private military contractors to the Nigerian military for their invasion of the city of Bama. Aboard an MI-24 Hind attack helicopter, one of the most lethal pieces of military hardware, we witness an air assault on one of the terrorist organization's last strongholds."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kimbo5c0Ak

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One more idea for fundraising

I know that the idea of setting up some kickstarter scams has been thrown around for a while.

Why not be more direct with it?

I was thinking we could contact Kickstarter directly to set up a fundraiser for a whole fucking country, with a 10-15 year goal of 20 mil or something(this can be worked out later). I think Kickstarter would love it; the idea of crowd-funding a whole country would be a HUGE news coverage boost to them, bringing in more viewers to their site. It might even go on national news, which would really get our new nation coverage too. If it goes well, i think it will be a win-win for both parties.

However, before we can do this, we need clearly presented material, a written constitution, an island picked out(and a deal made with the country who owns it to sell it to us for x amount of money), and probably city plans and stuff. It would be a good idea to leave out a lot of the PMC stuff until we get that sorted out(kickstarter seems to have a largely liberal fanbase); we should pitch 'maximum freedom' and the like on kickstarter, i believe that would sell well.

I believe that this would work. But like i said, we can't do this now; we need to focus our efforts on these three things:
>find an island that a gov is willing to sell to us
>write the constitution
>plan out the capitol on our new island, including food, water, electricity, and internet.

I think the main thing we need for this to is the deal with kickstarter to heavily 'advertise' this fundraiser, and hopefully get big news corps(cnn, fox, msnbc, bbc) to broadcast it as well. That is the crux of my plan.

Thoughts? Suggestions? Will this even work?
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Competition

So I see there are some other guys trying the 'build your own country' idea over at /namibia/

Whats the deal? are they another group or not?
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State of the project

Where are we right now?
Is this project done?
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Hey mates.
Theu here with ComradeCorgi, NuggetMoistener and Dropout-kun.

The Project Europa boards that we originated from may be /mlp/ified but this is a reminder that Kommando Armaments is still starting up.

Too bad nobody stops by the irc channels anymore but we're still alive and kicking. As always, we plan to design and research weapons and other /k/ memorabilia.
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Fleet

Why not /kountry/ on a boat? Cruise liners, sub marines, trading vessels and battleships are all designed to sustain life for a prolonged amount of time. If we found some way to produce income such as mercenary work or something we could trade for food and medicine. The downside is that most modern navies could destroy us fairly easier. However no matter where in the world we go a modern military could destroy us so I don't see this as a massive downside.

Thoughts?
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Drone General

Thought I would try and get a thread going with drones. Good for scouting and more.
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Girls/Trans/etc

What about wymyns, guys?

Really, It'd be really nice to have girls around, with the same interest in this project.

Though I know that'd be complicated because, well, you know, there are around ~110 guys involved in this and I don't think a woman would be interested in being park of something where the ratio M/F is around +100:1.

I really think it would be nice, just for the sake of diversity, same with trans-people, as long as they are useful and willing to learn, everyone should be welcomed.

Oh yeah, no tumblr-like bullshit allowed (a la call me xir), but everyone should be excellent to each other.
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Hi guys >>>/namibia/ here we are new board formed by /k/ and /pol/ we are trying to get some support and buy some land in Namibia and start a new Rhodesia.


We could use all the support we can get and It would be a very good idea to work together to accomplish our goals. Can we count on you guys to support us?
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On the continued subject of drugs from the town hall meeting(2), SecretaryBird decided to move it to a thread.

It seemed the consensus was "Do your work, don't hurt anyone else", do whatever drugs you want, with the exception of the drugs that take control of your life, and the super drugs that cause you to rip some poor fuckers head off.
As well as protecting children, so we don't get 8 year old dope heads trading their pokemon cards at recess for their next fix.

Discuss.
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So there's a 800 sq. mile section between egypt and sudan which is not that far from the red sea.

And its unclaimed

Read: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/va-man-plants-flag-claims-african-country-calling-it-kingdom-of-north-sudan/2014/07/12/abfbcef2-09fc-11e4-8a6a-19355c7e870a_story.html

What should we do fellow recruits?
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Meeting closed. Official votes

Leaders:
http://strawpoll.me/2688993/
I was concluded that leadership, for now, will be in the form of initiative volunteering.

Location:
http://strawpoll.me/2688777/
Why Africa? Anything else is too expensive or risky with the US or NATO.

Business:
http://strawpoll.me/2688947
We will incorporate a company for a company bank account, and our residents will all be stock holders and will vote on how the money is spent.
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Why not take over a small island nation? It's been done before, successfully, by Bob Denard in the Comores. Unsuccessful attemps include Equatorial Guinea by Denard and The Seychelles by Mike Hoare. Both men were mercenary commanders in The Congo.

For background reading, head to #bookz on undernet and download the following:

> Mockler - The New Mercenaries

> Hoare - Congo Mercenary
> Hoare - The Seychelles Affair
> Connor - How to Stage a Military Coup

Lets say we get a bunch of /k/ommandos to head to Ukraine and voulunteer for Putin's foreign legion. The little proxy wars in Ukraine, Ossetia, Transdnistria and Abkhazia and the like would give us the chance to "cut our teeth" and form political links with the Russians similar to how the white mercs in The Congo forged close ties to France. With the tacit approval of at least one powerful state, it would be a simple matter to "do a Denard" and carve out a puppet state somewhere godforsaken and remote.

If it was tropical, like the Comores, we could have an agrarian state based on spice exports and rare wood like teak. We should institute a new language like Esperanto, and encourage immigration from Europe and America. Our eventual goal would be to outbreed the original population.
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How serious of a threat is malaria and the various other diseases of Africa? How will you be able to handle it? Does anyone have medical expertise and access to cheap medicine/chemicals?
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The Mine

Hello kountrymen, Ive been lurking for awhile , checked out project europa for a bit , this seems to have a bit more steam however has died down a bit, here is my idea.

What we are looking for I think is a community , our own turf where we can build stuff and watch it grow, contribute and of course bear our arms, I propose we start a mine site in Africa ( A good choice in location which ill go into detail later )

I've worked at a mine site for a few years as an equipment operator now , have been reading about the development side of it ( never officially studied mining however ) and I think it embodies what we want . Our site is a big operation and one of the most remote , about 300 people live here at any time, we go to work , come back to the village, have dinner at the mess hall, socialize at the bar then goto our rooms and sleep, all in the middle of the desert.

The next big thing is money, the kind of money we need. We are on the very high end scale of production and our 60 man crew produce about 2 million dollars worth of ore a day.

Anyway even though its a very very expensive and complicated operation , this is because generally its only done on large scale but at the end of the day can be broken down to these procedures. There are other ways such as underground which differs slightly ( is more complicated , less production but much much less startup and running cost so is something to look at)

1.Exploration, find prospective ground and orebody.
2.Define orebody through drilling and sampling.
3.Drill out level in grid pattern, load with explosive, blast.
4.Load blasted material in dump trucks with excavator.
5.haul material up ramp and drop into crusher.
6.Leach gold from crushed material with weak cyanide solution, the method which Im thinking of is called heap leaching, which you basically just make a big pile on a plastic liner and use sprinklers to spray the pile, it then drains down and collects in pond.
7.Pump pond solution through columns filled with activated carbon ( charcoal ) gold is absorbed into the carbon.
8. repeat steps 3,4,5 for next level.

Obviously Im simplifying the procees a lot and it will still need a fair bit of money but if we could get the idea working then hopefully use the revenue to start scaling up.

To give you an idea a low grade mine is considered to be around 1g of gold per ton of ore. This means with a perfect recovery or bad 50% recovery of 2g per ton ore should yield about $5000 of gold for a swimming pool size of ore we dig out.

Now finding a gold deposit can be tricky but I mentioned Africa is a good choice because not many companies want to go there because of the risk, this is where our kountrymen come in because we will need an armed security detail at all times. Because it hasnt been as thouroughly explored finding a deposit ( also higher grade, and shallower ) should be easier. Even so , as I said companies generally only go big, Im talking at least 5 - 10 billion dollars and 20 year plans before they decide to build a mine, as a result , some smaller deposits are ignored, a small deposit could be 50 million dollars worth of gold though, and because we are not paying for labour ( at the start ) and trying to slowly do everything ourselves we should be able to save heaps in costs.

It will be hard make no mistake, But it would be an adventure and something that would only require a smaller crew of dedicated people to start off rather then getting 500 neets to catch a plane to africa and start setting up tents with no purpose.

Also it will be much more legal than attempting to declare a new country , I actually looked into it in my country and found a small deposit but the laws are a nightmare, I think the laws are a lot less strict in Africa or either a lot less enforced.

There is a lot more to elaborate on but what do you think. Outer Heaven Mining Plc.
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Ship or Heli

Hi,I´m new to this project and I really want to contribute. The question is: should I buy a Sailingship for the kountry, or should I make a helicopter license but without a helicopter?
Pic unrelated
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Russian Foreign Legion

http://rt.com/news/219563-putin-army-foreigners-contractors/
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Location

This may sound stupid, but why not try space as a location for a country/space colony? If we could get enough funding we could start a space program to get to the moon or mars and start a colony there.

The only problem would be resources, radiation and low gravity. And we would need some engineers and scientist on board.
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Neo-Rhodesia

Guys, why don´t we buy some land in Zimbabwe? Or invade it, I don´t care. We could literally rebuild Rhodesia!
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MERRY CHRISTMAS YOU GLORIOUS /K/UNTS

I fucking love you guys.
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Hydroponics/Farming Thread

Dear agriculturefags;

http://www.androidworld.com/prod26.htm

>Vegetable P/A T/A/C $/C C/YR Y/A/YR $/A/YR G/D

>Carrots 1568 98.0 69 5.5 542.0 114 333
>Potatoes,-Idaho 63 62.7 35 3.7 231.3 39 142

Y/A/YR means total yield per acre per year in tons

With just two hectares of land dedicated to hydroponics we can grow approximately 1339 tons of carrots and 571 tons of potatoes per year.

Note that 2 hectares is 0.0077 square miles or only 0.02 square kilometers

Sounds too good to be true?

>2.3 Are these numbers for real? The reader is probably wondering if these projections are really possible. The answer is that they definitely are!



Anyway, general veg thread I guess.
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Location

Has anyone considered Northern Canada as a location? Places like Coats Island
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coats_Island
Seem like ideal candidates. Completely uninhabited, good hunting/fishing, isolated, and in a decent climate.
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Mainland Africa

Whilst an uninhabited piece of land would be most desirable, this would be difficult: most land is uninhabited for a reason.

My suggestion would be mainland sub-saharan Africa. The millitaries there are much weaker for a start. As well as this, even if a small amount of infra structure is already in place that would be very useful to us when starting up.

The benefits of a populated area are that there is already a workforce, native Africans would probably work as farmhands for what is the equivalent of a few dollars a day, and could also be used for other manual labor. The workers would be almost a slave labor force and we would be able to expel them once we no longer had need of them.

In case we really upset an African nation then we could look for support from rivals nations or from militias that are trying to overthrow the current nation's government.

Any other thoughts?
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Funding for Private Security Company

At time I and another Marine are saving up to attend a year's worth of Simulated Combat Classes, Firearms certifications courses and General Tactical skills to include, room clearing, egress (tactical retreat), VIP transport, firearms proficiency etc. The location we've chosen is owned, operated and instructed by former Special Forces veterans.

The classes are 8 hours long and can be taken 5 days a week. We intend to devote 1 full year to this training with intent to become properly qualified to:
#1 Better Understand the inner workings of a Private Security Company
#2 Become highly proficient in the tactics, training and equipment use required to operate as Private Security Contractors
#3 Acquire the ability to pass these skills to others down the road.
#4 Have the best assessment to make educated decisions in the creation of our own independent Private Security Company. (aka PMC)

We've spoke on the instructors at the Training Facility have complete confidence in their capability of helping us accomplish the above goals. They are more of a "family" than a rigid company and have stated that if I and the other Marine fit in well we can become part of their community.

This well aid us greatly in obtaining contact information for potential investors, employers/contractors, and even possibly for our own recruitment. It has already been said that if we meet their expectations they will gladly vouch for us and lend themselves as references in the future. The weight of their facility as a positive reference for us in the future is more valuable that I can put into words.

The gofundme at the bottom has been calculated to cover cost of housing, food, and training courses for Two Marines for 1 full year so that we may focus the entire time, 8 hours a day, 5 days a week on training.

If we are able to make it into the top tier of students we may even have a chance of being recruited by the training instructors to become Contractors for them taking contracts overseas in locations such as Iraq, Afghanistan and even parts of Europe.

This would greatly aid in our ability to obtain more contacts through employers and employees.

tl;dr we're raising money to attend a PMC Training Facility to gain the skill sets required to create a Private Security company.

http://www.gofundme.com/faf16g
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Weapons manufacturing

Saw this >>34824

And it got me thinking that we should come up with designs for weapons that could be built with off-the-shelf tech so we don't depend on the kind of sensitive exports most countries wouldn't sell to us

One idea I have is a rifle made from one rectangular block of steel where a CNC machine carves one side, then you rotate, and it carves the other, etc.

The point is to make the most of the limited manpower and tooling by creating a design that is more automation-friendly

Opinions?
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Do we have any clear cut financial goals and more importantly do we even have a source of funding?
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Go Go Go, /k/ommandos!
http://strawpoll.me/3150949

Decide what you want as our issue/standard weapon!
If we ever go and hold on to clay, what shall we do? Well, we can at least Adopt -> Produce -> Use -> Sell what we have chosen as our rifle, proud and sold to who wants them ('cept kebab. We sell them "soon to blow-up recovered and hardly usable" garbage.). Pic quite related.
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Philosophy Bread: or Food for Fools or for Thought?

Hey, everyone. I know everyone loves the idea of Outer Heaven/Haven as simply being a Merc/PMC haven. Ok. That's cool. What then? How likely would we be eliminated STAT? High chance. Hell, we might even get the the full Zero #REKTIT Treatment. Or, if even one NATO/Former USSR/Commonwealth country says we are anything like ISIS, we will be condemned; dead men walking among the living.

Maybe company rule will only stem such, for a while. but, company rule will only work so well for so long. I say when we get this started, we have a charter that effectively ends such within 3-5 years of founding. Something beyond lining our pockets; is that all we want to give our children and grandchildren? I think not.

I say we live and work under some kind of philosophy. Since outer heaven/haven is supposed to be some idea of being a truly free and unfettered ideal, I have picked a name for now. I call it Empyreanism: in summary, the philosophy of being the pinnacle of what a country can rise to: a free society that has concise, clear, minimally restrictive law that the common man can understand, yet does not chain down the people and has only a few conditions that needs to be fulfilled.

What are these conditions and ideas?
How will you choose to be pseudo-immortal (more than one choice is ok)?
>Gene: By reproduction and contributing to populace number, with child-rearing tailored to the child and attempting to get the children to be independent and being able to "operate" in their fields, head and shoulders above those anywhere else.
>Meme: By singular or numerous inter-related ideas or thoughts that construct what the society needs and wants, material or immaterial.
>Scene: By rising to the occasion (such as war, or other emergencies) when ideas need execution and being responsible and credited for outcomes, negative or positive.
>Sense: Being able to know what is right, what is wrong, and what needs to take its course without further intervention besides simple observation. We are not animals and should not simply fall to whims of any chemical imbalance or "animal instincts".
>Peace: By not fighting and instead, negotiating, those that chose to contribute this way are not weak, but rather steadfast and crafty in getting what is best for as many as possible.
>Revenge: By being a deterrence to those who would threaten us and our way of life. We need a military to be able to keep any merc force inside from taking us over or overthrowing us and disposing of our homeland.
>Theme: We must contemplate as to what we are. What are we? Free people who want to not live or ride on the laurels of others: we live and die with merit, with value beyond ourselves, and with the knowledge that we tread where few have been.
>Equality and Merit: We give everyone a chance to make something of themselves, to make a long lasting mark: not hand-outs, but opportunity. Merit and Equality are not exclusive: we all have an edge others may not have and that is not inequality, but rather another facet in the jewel of our future homeland.
>Venture Beyond Enlightenment: This is one that I feel I cannot and should not attempt to define alone, but to rather point at it and wait for others to be aware of it.

The above bullets are just a start. Philosophy thread? Philosophy bread!
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Prototype Military Structure

I'll post a link for now,and the next post will try to be a TL;DR with some details.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HMFJkCH2RBX-pLEonqGvNMRkMhkMR3P35INkmexikl0/edit?usp=sharing
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what the fuck happened to the boards

http://projecteuropa.boards.net/

is this for real
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Posting about /kountry/ in other boards?

Should we start posting in other boards about /kountry/? i feel we could use the people, but i also knwo that many would come here either to shitpost and ruin our fun or to instill their ideology into our country(i'm looking at /pol/ here)

pic somewhat related to /pol/
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Patch Idea thread

During the last meeting we discussed the possibility of making a /k/ountry patch to sell through nugget enterprises as a way to earn some cash towards the project. So I am creating this thread to gather ideas and concept art for our patch design. The main idea behind the patch is to have it as appealing as possible to fellow kommandos thus it doesn't have to be directly related to the /k/ountry. Prize for the winning design is I will personally pay ivan to send you a set of the winning patch free of charge and maybe some other goodies. Feel free to email me at junglehawwkk@gmail.com
and check out nugget enterprises at http://www.kommandostore.com/moto-gear.html
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Infrastructure, Electricity, Agriculture, Economy, Government and other Issues

Didn't know you guys moved to 8chan.

From all those that don't know who I am I'll introduce myself shortly, for those that remember me from the IRC Chats, welcome.

Firstly, I'm just a regular guy, just like the rest of you looking for a place that appreciates the right to freedom more than anything else. The right to think for one's self, the right to own whatever they want to own as long as it is within their own limits whether it be financial, physical or something that needs consent from another party.

But the /k/ountry as it stands has some issues in my eyes. But these may have been addressed while I've been away so I'd like for you guys to fill me in.

>Infrastructure

Should be the first things on our minds, to deal with how things like waste are removed from apartments and made safe enough to be dumped somewhere or reused

>Electricity

Could be made from waste material like fermenting fecal matter in a biodigester and getting methane gas to power generators, Solar panels, Growing Algae to deal with not only carbon emissions but also give us fuel and livestock feed

>Agriculture

Aquaponics takes up the least amount of space for the highest yield at the lowest cost and can cover all of our basic food needs.

>Economy

Should be based more than just firearm related means, I have a few ideas for kit aircraft and an international organization that deals with emissions from factories (by scrubbing the smog through various filters, one of those being a bubble tank [smog goes in from the bottom and solid matter is caught in the water, gas escapes from the top] then using the carbon dioxide to feed an algae bank)

>Government & Other Issues

It should be first and formost a meritocracy.
Even had the government system set up to be a meritocratic society based on facts, research and not general apathy, ignorance and emotional games.

The only people who are willing AND actually care about the general public would be able to be a politician, making the selection very small and keeping the senate small as well.

I really believe that together, we can make this a reality, but only with the right tools at our fingertips, the right ideas to help this become a reality and the right mindset and set of skills needed to keep this thing going.

Thank you and I'm here for any discussion needed.
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Hey any /k/ountrymen going to the next /k meetup in PA this December?
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Would we be forming an actual nation or are we just gonna be one of those unrecognized micronations?
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The Deported Veterans

Hey guys, just saw this come up on my Facepunch feed:

https://news.vice.com/video/deported-veterans-of-america?utm_source=vicenewsfb

Pretty interesting. The first guy is wearing a shirt that reads, "Veterans Without Borders" and there seem to be a lot of them, and more and more are likely to follow…

Can we get some discussion up and running with regard to offering these guys citizenship to our /k/ountry? I feel for them and would very much like to help, plus they would have a lot to offer..

Cheers.

-s

Oh yeah, pic not related, just wanted to get your attention.
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Newfag

Ive seen /kountry/ mentioned around /pol/ and /k/. Can someone explain to me what this board is?
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http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=455959474
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=455244489

Should we buy this type of stuff? I feel as if reloading our ammo will be much cheaper than buying it. We could even sell our home-made ammo as well.
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GET A JOB

brothers,

if we wanna be a pmc, we should probably accumulate some pmc experience. check these guys out

https://www.facebook.com/asymmetricsolutionsusa
http://www.asymmetricsolutionsusa.com/careers/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cqs5JhHRaY
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Suggestion for raising funds

How about some of us do a online (maybe even storefront, if someone feels like it) trader/store that sells stuff that would be stalker-esque in what is being sold, or even something that is done on ebay and auction off stuff. If more than one person likes this idea, hit me up. Half of profits go to some kind of fund, and the other half is divided up based on how it was or who (plural?) sold it.
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MUH GUNZ

What is the most practical way/slav gun we can buy in bulk for our for defense on our journey out sea to the promised land?
Pic (kinda) related
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NAME THREAD

Throw out some name suggestions for our /k/ountry.

Here are some of mine

Elysium >inb4 movie reference
Empyrea or Empyrean
Asgard

I'll add on to this short list, but y'all can add on.
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Heavy weapons manufacturing

If we are gonna operate as a complete pmc army to fight against possibly isis or defend a fledging African nation against a neighbouring army that's stepped out of line then we are going to have to be equiped like one with full mechanization .

Obviously this is a mammoth task but just brainstorming a few things as we'll have a decent amount of manpower for labor.

Perhaps the design of things could be outsourced , there are plenty of indian graduates out there with masters in mechanical engineering but no job, they could be persauded by a few thousand dollars to design our equipment or qt least point us in the right direction.

At the very minimum we'll need artillery , the 88mm guns with good optics were devastating in ww2.

Quantity over quality instead of 2 well made tanks a 100 armoured 4wds with hmgs , bulk ammo and onboard computers with gps datalink , would be highly mobile and probably very effective

I have a few other ideas to throw around, but people experienced with cnc , metal casting, 3d printers etc would be nice
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Naval Procurement

So I had a thought: Would a torpedo boat be a good idea? Sink this idea if it's rly dumb.

http://www.projectboats.com/torpedoboat.html
or
http://www.hammacher.com/product/12127
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ded
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Women?

Do we have any women in Kountry I have been out of the loop for about a month
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I guess I'll start a thread on this. Anything relating to power generation,general utilities, water,sewage,waste, environmental impact(can't live in a place no one wants to go to),etc.

I have a certification for water treatment(no job in that field yet), and have a general idea on the cost of building and maintaining a water treatment facility.

Just to get the ball rolling.

pic not related.
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I'm on a boat annnnd

Boats. We need 'em. I like this one: http://www.maritimesales.com/SGA10.htm

Anyone else got a boat they like? Boat general thread. Even if they're out of reach currently, it's good to have a dream.
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Okay, so it's been decided we'd like to settle in the motherland, East-Africa. The red soil is stained with 5000+ years of bloodshed so it's a pretty good place to start a /k/ompound.

We'll probably wanna be somewhere on the coast or near it at least so that we can have access to the sea and sea-based transport like cargo ships.
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Tolerance

Be honest with me, how well would I fit into this organization as a religious kebab? I love what you guys are trying to do here but I feel really out of place with all the SS pictures and remove kebab shit. I know its /k/ culture. I don't give a fuck. I don't even talk to people about my beliefs nor will I ever.

but in the practical scheme of things I imagine being on this Island/Compound/Tree fort and being out numbered by people who secretly hate me. this idea only works on trust and that we are all eachothers brothers.

Would you not want me there? I'm sure someone else lurking feels the same way I do.


pic semi related.
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WHEN: NOV 12, 2014 @ 21:00 EST

(HOW TO FIND OUT WHEN EST IS: https://www.google.com.au/search?q=Current+EST+Time)

WHERE: IRC (CHANNEL TO BE EMAILED OUT 1 HOUR PRIOR TO MEETING START)

AGENDA:

- Discuss and define "Unrestricted" and "Realistic" with regard to the landslide vote for "Unrestricted freedom with realistic limits" - https://8chan.co/kountry/res/724.html#724

- Specific drugs that should definitely be prohibited for personal and community health reasons - https://8chan.co/kountry/res/724.html#726, also https://8chan.co/kountry/res/606.html

- Fundraising brainstorm to see what we can all do to raise some money for our future web presence

- Taxation, Tax regulation, All things TAX! TAX TAX TAX.

Kind regards,

- Secretarybird
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Post meeting catchup thread

Yeah, yeah, I should have been there like all the other damn /k/ommandos. Anyways, jump in.

Besides posting in the meeting thread, this thread is to continue the conversations of the latest meeting.
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Hey guys I suggest you chose Borneo / Brunei for your new country. Tons of cover (dense jungle) and oil.
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What should our flag be? I always like the Project Europa design.

The stripes and colors are used as symbols in military medals signifying militaristic strength and defense.

The cuddling nuggets emulate a pair of wings which are used as symbols of protection and swiftness.

And the /k/ube is of course our glorious Nex Alea.
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/k/ on 8chan

Hey guys, just a heads up: there's a pretty decent /k/ here on 8chan.

Just posted about us on their page, link here: https://8chan.co/k/res/19286.html

Check'em out if you have aminute or two, they'd like more traffic and we might win a few friends too.

-s
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Starting Off Right

Before we can build a /k/ountry we must build a /c/ommunity. Not only because we are going to make a lot of mistakes early on and will need a safe place to fail, but also because building trust and relationships within our group is vital. This is why we must start off small.

We must look at ideas from a logical point of view, adopting them not because they sound cool but because they make sense. Weapons manufacturing sounds nice, but is it actually a viable option? Do we actually have the resources to pursue something like this, or would focusing on self sufficiency in other ways such as farming make more sense? A lot of what we will have to do will be not fun, but it will be necessary.

This is going to take a lot of work to make this a reality, but with coordination, a sense of realism, and a lot of work this can happen.
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hello? is this me?
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Could we get funding to buy and secure our island and PMC through making it a tax haven? I imagine the super richfags would save money buy investing in the making of a country and storing all of their money, tax-free, there. When they are done, perhaps the regular richfags will come, and on and on. However, i know jack shit about economics. I think that if the richfags have dual citizenship(which we can just give to them i guess), it will be legal in just about any country for them to have an account in /kountry/.

So tell me: Is this sustainable? Will it be shut down? Will it attract investors? We definitely need the funding.
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Voting results

These are the official end results guys, there's been plenty of time to vote and voting has ended.
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Start Out Small

Okay, so in regards to the /k/ Village, someone in a low populated Area that has land for cheap (and has areas that are flatlike), we could buy Shipping containers and make them as walls and build/farm inside.
>This is the /k/ountry board not /k/ village
Look we will most likely never create a nation, but we can make a village/town, we can only make a nation if SHTF or King Obango fucks the economy royaly and you can say independence and he wont be able to do shit, and if those happen if we have a pre- established village then that would be a whole lot easier.
Discuss.
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Kountry

Is kountry white only?
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I'm new. Not from /k/ but I'm interested in the idea of building a new country from scratch and designing the way the country would work, if only in theory. According to what I've read on the threads you have, you've had one IRC meeting and will have another on the 16th.

As far as I understood, location is not very clear yet. The way I see it is that it has to be purchased. A tiny corner of a poor 3rd world country. The more corrupt the easier. Population density is also a key element. You can't buy a piece of land and expect to have a decent time if you have thousands of natives within your borders. So the requirements are: desolate and poor.
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Sup /kountry/

/pol/ack here. I love what you guys are doing.

While I understand that you want autonomy and independence above all else, consider the roles of external… 'agents' if you will - those of us who are capable at generating revenue conventionally, sourcing assets (including boats and planes) for the kountry, securing shipping lines for the transportation of assets, materials, and medicines, and establishing offshore companies for money laundering financial support purposes.

Would you find these services agreeable and in demand?
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SCEH thread

sceh (the Stoic Commune of European Heritage) is an idea born on /pol/ to create communes, like that of the Amish, for European people to preserve our heritage, culture, and tradition.

In an age of SJWs, white guilt, and declining European birthrates, we need a place to grow and prosper. And the sceh is the place for that.

We're still in the process of planning, discussing, and getting people together to make this a reality.

Right now, a growing community is posting on our dedicated board.

You guys are the type who want your own land, your own bastion where you can live with like-minded people.

So why not check us out?

>>sceh
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Town Hall Meeting 2

Hey everyone, get on chat or get in here and discuss what time (relative to ET) would suit you best for our next team meeting.
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So. I've seen a number of threads related to fund-raising and other activities to get ourselves some money to build this up. This morning, I was listening to the radio, when I heard something particularly interesting, and it reminded me of something else I'd seen in here suggesting we support Houthi rebels in Yemen in exchange for a good price on a boat or boats they have captured. That idea was scrapped, but I think it could be a step in an interesting direction. I propose that one thing we could consider doing is attempting to secure an export permit for "light" body armor (Level 3 Steel, Ceramic, Poly, and soft armor), and sell it at a relatively low markup to someone that will earn us more international brownie points, specifically, the Kurdish Peshmerga. If we play it correctly, we could earn money, secure a good relationship with the Kurds, earn a lot of PR points, and potentially get some credit for "fighting terrorism", though I doubt the last one.

Of course, this would be somewhat risky. We'd need someone to make contact, arrange the sales, secure export permits, and probably import permits, and then still if it goes badly we could lose money, or, in the worst case, indirectly supply the PKK and have Turkey (and therefore NATO) very irate with us.

Just a potential option. For the sake of a measurable consensus:
http://strawpoll.me/2833384

I've never done one of these so I hope it's decent.
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Fundraising /k/ampaign

http://teespring.com/hashishsmokesyou

Dear /k/ommandos,

For make glory of /k/ountry and to have our own website, we need she/k/els to pay for hosting fees on a Russian server ($120 USD per year) and if we reach the 25 sale minimum we'll have more than enough for 2 years worth of hosting, and possibly more because the more you pay upfront, the more uptime you get (according to their pricing plan).

Each shirt raises approximately $11 for those of you interested in the maths behind this.

In return for your generosity:

- Our website goes live AND you get access (duh)
- You get this amazing shirt which I designed in MS Paint
- First 25 bac/k/ers can opt to be hall of famers on the home page if they wish

Thank you for your time and support o7

- Secretarybird

http://teespring.com/hashishsmokesyou
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Aircraft

So I am planning on getting a pilots licence and a plane is roughly 5-6 years just a few quick questions.


1.
In 5-6 years would pilots even be needed still for this project?


2.
If the answer to one is yes what aircraft would be recommended for a project such as this. (I was thinking a maule or Cessna hell perhaps even an AN-2)

Thanks
-OriginalCanadian
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Thoughts...

An island wont work. Invading a country to steal an island is also a horrible idea. Yeah, sure, you may pull it off, but it will not hold for long. A team of 100 stands no chance against even one battleship, let alone helicopters with FLIR, or air-to-ground missiles, or jets. You will need millions upon millions for jets, radar, missiles, SAMs, boats, and all of that stuff. An island is the most easily taken thing, especially a small island, guarded by a few men without battleships and air support.

If you guys want your own rule of law, your own system, your own food growth, your own military, you are best off just moving out to the middle of nowhere in montana, new hampshire, vermont, or maine. Practically no one would come into contact with you there, so long as you stay deep in the mountains. You are safe from invasion (other than internal -and you can simply run for miles on miles to evade that part). You always have the backup possibility of going to town for gear and food and medical needs too. Its called a fourth-world nation - you just ignore the state-set boundaries.

What, exactly, are your reasons and goals for this all? —i might want in (but i dont if it involves invading foreign land)

Be thoughtful and creative, like the island thought, but also be realistic, like the WA idea)
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is there any way i can help /kountry/?
i don't have much experience whit guns and tings like that but i would like to help, the only ting i think i could help whit is my gardening knowledge, i work at a vivarium and i have harvested different types of vegetables and i have knowledge of soils and and how to grow and replicate some plants natural habitat if this is somehow useful plz tell me
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Town Hall 2: Electric Retookening Harder

Alright, discussions that people wanted to discuss in moar detail, but could not and did not for the second town hall, go here.
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Does it bother you guys at all that Bill O'Reilly thinks you're idea is a good one? That's a little damning.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/09/22/bill-oreillys-plan-to-defeat-isis-a-25000-perso/200848
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Hey guys, would there be any need for people with financial skills and a knowledge of statistical programming?
At the rate at which things are going to shit, I want off this ride.
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I am 12 and what is this

On a serious note, does anyone have a tl;dr version of what this board is about and what progress has been made?
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The only time we're going to be able to do this shit is if SHTF. If the major powers of the world are weakened we can do it.
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Reminder that we don't really need coal or crude reserves to produce hydrocarbon fuels.

Pic unrelated; its the only image on my phone that isn't porn.

http://youtu.be/wP5qbKS_8VY
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Wut

What is this?
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Keeping /kountry/ alive with a bump thread!
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Currently working on the budget. It's ludicrously high, as I suspected. I'll try to break it down into phases so the costs don't look so daunting.

Here's the first draft.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PdkZcTFQAva0wkVRCFo_hW37A9jcZUtnqt0uAgPsnBg/edit#gid=0
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Float Away

Okay, not really a /k/ountry but it going to be more along the lines of /k/ Village (Lets be honest that's the more likely scenario), In Louisiana bayou you can have a floating house tax free, just need a few permits here and there and you can dock it to a cypress tree and no one will bother you.

And not sure on the details but perhaps we can get something like this going in Lake Erie or one of the great lakes, because they have very little waves, and almost no current. If we were to do this we would need the help of Amerifags and Canadafags, or we could have these is the Louisiana Bayou, but I've been there it sucks.
So ITT ways to make this plan better or change it a little.
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/k/ompound

Okay, this is somewhat relevant to the board,
Detroit is falling apart, and Buildings are VERY cheap; so we could get a 3 level apartment building for like 4 grand.
How to get funds, we could CC and patrol around in the ghettos (basically the entire city), and when someones like "gimme your money white boy honky", we off them then loot their gold chains.
I believe there was something similar a few years ago on halfchan called the K team.
Any Ideas?
(pic unrelated)
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here is a form to schedule group and other meetings
http://goo.gl/forms/rvqNwe4J4G

form replies get added to the page "meetings" in the Tasks and Roster spreadsheet

hopefully we can find a way to make this easier to share, but for now this is what we've got, check there for meetings, add meetings if your team or group needs it, delete meetings that have already happened (should get highlighted in the sheet)

direct all complaints to Chancellor
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Torrents and Files

I have downloaded a fuckhuge archive one day filled with just about anything we might need for this project so I might as well link it here in case anyone doesn't know about it.
It's 75GB worth of vital information for our project, so I urge all of us to download it and seed it so everyone has quick access to this knowledge.
If anyone else knows of other archives like this please post them here as well, who knows someone else might have an even bigger and better collection of knowledge.

http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/4372796/Mega_Combat_Weaponry_Tactics_Torrent
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Town Hall Meeting

* ATTENTION ALL STAFF *

For our first online Town Hall Meeting, we need to pick a time that works best for all. Given that most of our operators are USA based, we will conduct the meeting at a time where we can achieve maximum participation.

For ease of reference for our internationally based operators, please state which time on Wednesday 10/1/2014 would suit you best in reference to EASTERN TIME (EDT), i.e. the time in Washington DC.

The most suggested time will be when we start, and will likely become the time we always start our meetings. Please use your operator handles in the name field when posting and try to avoid samefagging, democracy starts with the individual.

Thanks and regards,

- Secretarybird
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http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=uqrQYBxX

This is assuming we're basing in a hot, humid climate like Malaysia

I'm open for any other ideas regarding cultivating crops and raising animals
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Location, Location, Location...

Have an idea of where this could be?

Know of any cheap land?

Are you able to allow 50 /k/ommandos reside in your own home?

Put it all here, lets figure out where the hell we're gonna put this place

(In the essence of realism, lets try to go for a commune within the U.S, we cant buy a damn island……yet)
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Personal Gear

So I'm working on finding out what the requirements for equipment that would be needed. But in order to find out what would be needed, I need to find what we already have. So I suppose this thread would be to discuss what everyones personal loadout would be, and what larger equipment people could have that would be of use.
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/k/ountry style venison steaks

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ea6_1411385838
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I just realised the chances of this working without a doctor is near to zero.
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Bioko Coup

A number of years ago, on old /k/, we brainstormed a little about taking over a small african nation or territory. In fact, looking at the timestamps it was August 2009.
This was around the time the idea floated around to create the "Four Leaf Security Company" PMC.

The place we arrived at was the island of Bioko AKA Fernando Pó, in Equatorial Guinea. Pretty outlandish choice, but hey.

Pics related.

PS: Maybe using google services for crucial information isn't the best idea. Just sayin'.
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Training supplements

Does anyone know of any training supplements specifically geared towards PMC duties, eg personal protection details, maritime security operations etc.

There are plenty of manuals for standard warfare but not so much for those sorts of tasks.
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Where we are, where we're going.

Hello all, consider this an official update thread.

A lot has been going on, and I'll try to condense this down to a single post so veterans can keep up and recruits know where we are.

The vast majority of you are already tasked. If you have not been, feel free to take a look around, see what everyone else is working on, and fill in where you think you have the most to contribute. There's a lot of people working on a lot of projects, talk to them.

Major discussions currently, and general leanings:
Q.) What's the plan?
A.) We're making it up as we go. Current ideas seem to be working as a PMC doing odd security work, anti-piracy and the like onboard client vessels, saving up for our own to escort client vessels, to save up for our own port of call/island/what have you. In the meantime, there are discussions of having a compound (either foreign or domestic) as a test-run and a temporary home/gathering spot for our fellow kountrymen while Outer Heaven is still being worked toward. Innawoods fantasykamp, basically.

Q.) How is Gov't going to work?
A.) Cross the bridge when we get there. Currently, there is no established leadership. Some people have taken on more organizational roles, while others have elected to volunteer their skills as an individual contributor role. Both are equally necessary.

Q.) Are you aware that your picture is not an Orca?
A.) Yes.
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Exit versus Voice. If you haven't seen this video yet, perhaps it will help solidify some of your thoughts. Essentially it's about escaping away from established orthodoxy and going your own way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOubCHLXT6A
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My musings and vagueish plans

Just figured I'd post and put my thoughts somewhere I can come back to and get feedback on.

My main plans for the whole operation are as follows:

1. Organize several face-to-face meetups and communicate online regularly. Start saving up rainy day funds and the like for possible scouting trips but keep it pretty casual. Heavy research period on law, land, money, firearms, and the like.

2. Once we've met, become professional if not friendly, we begin to see who wants to, is able, and is willing to do a scouting mission wherever we may find the island. This is why I said to save the rainy day funds. It'll probably be a team of 2-5 people scouting a pretty decently sized island. If someone owns a plane or boat, that'd be ideal.

There should be four scouting trips in the middle of each season to gauge the temperament and accessibility of the weather and surrounding ecosystem. This will allow us to make geographic maps, make soil samples, make clearings and maybe an airstrip for next time, etc.
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Regarding territory and international affairs

Politics has to come up at some point. We are, after all, claiming land to set up a militia and take over the world after a convoluted sequence of very specific events. This is just ideas, as we obviously haven't reached that point.
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reporting in.

Where are reporting in, here?
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After reading the draft constitution (which you can find it here https://docs.google.com/document/d/17HzC_dxSUdwRLO4RAHH6a_a9ZZK5ETj47tGgI631NGk/edit?pli=1)id like to offer some amendments to it:
7)all men are equal and as such neither man nor law can discriminate against a citizen on the basis of race,gender,sexuality, religion,creed, or ideology
8)all citizens no mater occupation or social standings will be taxed the same rate. this rate will be a percentage of of the total income of said citizen.
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Two questions that are completely unrelated and I'm putting them in the same post because fuck you!

1. I'm interested in joining but I am an unoriginal faggot when it comes to code names/ aliases. Should we decide on an official code name system/generator for recruits?

2.Should we instate a fitness requirement? I have a feeling that most people interested are not prepared physically. Seeing as this is something planned for the long term maybe we can get a /fit/fag to make a long term workout plan. I can just imagine a meetup where everyone that shows up is obese or a skeletor.
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Have you guys considered a decentralized organization? Say having "Outer Heaven" institutions throughout the world with a sort shared administrative body? (Think like religious institutions with local chapters, bishops, etc)

I think it might help start things up easier, and also would be harder to crack down if this becomes an issue with the law - if you all pile up on some island or floatilla you can easily be nuked. But splinter groups spread out throughout the world that can consistently vanish and reappear? That might be more successful
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General Queries Thread

Hey all. Glad I found the thread over on /k/.

I had a couple questions. I have skimmed over the "Brainstorming Outer Heaven" doc, and I like what I'm seeing. Whoever thought of the council of 5 utilizing the Alternative Vote instead of the shit FPTP vote gets a big 'attaboy from me.

Anyway, on to my first questions. Aside from the obvious of "wow how the fuck do we do this", I immediately have to ask:

1) What is the motive? We all have different desires for such a place, and if enough are radically opposed, we already have problems. Even if we figure out how to create and sustain our own Outer Heaven, what is our purpose?

2) What is the tentative timeline for this plan? 5 years out? 10? Less?

I know I will think of more but feel free to use this thread to post your own to discuss "meta" questions about the plan, as opposed to the more physical hurdles, which can be covered separately, for sake of organization.
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