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 No.584[Reply]

What's the ugliest language and why is it mandarin?
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 No.1592

>>1482

>which

All of them, they sound like shit and look like a doctor's cursive handwriting.


 No.1606

>>1472

>Polish Cyrillic alphabet

Link?


 No.1607

>>1606

You could have just searched yourself. It's exactly the same as Russian except some archaic letters for nasal vowels


 No.1608

>>1607

I thought perhaps it was more specialized. Still, I suppose that makes sense.


 No.1610

>>1608

Polish retains palatalization system (which is absent in South Slavic languages) so there's no reason to go extravagant, it works just like in Russian.

Also note that while Polish keeps having two nasal vowels like in Proto-Slavic, the system got reanalyzed, Proto-Slavic *ę generated iotated nasal vowels ię and ią in Polish, and *ǫ generated ę and ą, depending on vowel length (ą from long, ę from short).




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 No.1237[Reply]

This is a thread for all translation, so, I guess that.

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 No.1602

>>1601

>balls

*nice balls

n-no homo


 No.1603

>>1602

*balls


 No.1604

>>1603

Oh, it's a filter, sorry for the autism


 No.1605

>>1601

Not really sure, I think it's just how it is transliterated in English


 No.1609

>>1605

I couldn't find any answers by googling, so I'm guessing you're right.




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 No.1489[Reply]

Is learning Modern Greek a viable way of then learning Classical Greek?

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 No.1582

How about learning modern Hebrew to then learn biblical Hebrew?


 No.1584

>>1582

The same, they are way too different.


 No.1593

>>1584

Well, they're much more similar, Hebrew skipped centuries of natural development thanks to Jewish necromancy.


 No.1595

>>1593

haha, I thought modern Hebrew was very Indo-Europeanized?


 No.1596

>>1595

Grammatically it was, but honestly the Bible is Parataxis: The Book (now with more asyndeton!). If you speak modern Hebrew I guess you'll recognize a lot of the basic things, conjunctions, radicals and such.




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 No.122[Reply]

Anyone here learning Lojban? I'm beginning today and I'm wondering how much I'll be able to use the language for day-to-day communication. Would anyone be in favor of a Lojban board being made?
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 No.1464

>>377

This.

>>422

This.

>>525

This.


 No.1476

>>1457

>le

literally reddit tier language


 No.1583

>>1476

There is nothing wrong with Reddit.


 No.1585

>>1583

You need to go back Sanchez


 No.1588

>>1585

>Sanchez

There is literally nothing wrong with being Basque.




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 No.1566[Reply]

Hey let's have a thread for this.

Basically everything is welcome;

false cognates (words in different languages that look like they could easily be cognates, but knowing the actual etymology tells you they aren't)

distant cognates (I'm saying distant because the interesting part here is where a word travels to the other side of the continent)

false friends (words that are either homophones or close homophones in two languages, but have wildly different meanings — but sometimes they may be true cognates and differ in meaning due to semantic drift)

pic related, cognates like that (or fucking ananas) aren't interesting and therefore not welcome

 No.1567

fuck almost forgot to give an example to start this thread

Hindi श्री (śrī), a honorific

English sir, a honorific

>श्री is an older Sanskrit word, but ī is already a vowel there and ri in Hindi isn't from Sanskrit vocalic , in Sanskrit it is an adjective form of श्रीः śrīḥ which is an abstract term meaning "splendour, prosperity, radiance, …"

>sir (in rhotic dialects pronounced with a "vocalic r") is a contraction of French seigneur, ultimately from Latin senior "older/elder", a comparative of senex "old"


 No.1568

FAGGOT - fagotto (eng. bundle)


 No.1570

The most retarded false cognates between spanish and english:

El limón - Lime

La lima - Lemon


 No.1571

>>1568

They have the same etymological root my fine pasta friend.


 No.1579

>>1570

haha




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 No.1551[Reply]

5:57 will (not) surprise you :^)

 No.1574

I love Laoshu. His videos make me feel horrifyingly embarassed (walking up to random strangers and talking…) but at the same time he's so cool and impressive with the language skills. Looking forward to watching this.


 No.1577

>>1574

You gotta go out and get that money.




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 No.946[Reply]

Hello, I was hoping you guys could help in locating resources to learn Chinese. Us guys at /cyber/ want to learn it and apparently Rosetta Stone is shit (can sorta vouch, their German lessons were terrible).

So yeah, anybody got extra saucy sauces on learning websites/books? Would greatly appreciate it to share with the others.

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 No.1429

does anyone know what this means?

是他妈的


 No.1438

>>1429

I think it's "really motherly" but I'm wrong. Google Translate says "fuck" so maybe Chinese has an elevated adipose complex…


 No.1440

>>1429

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/他媽的

it's chinese version of a motherfucker


 No.1444

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>>1438

>elevated adipose complex

>adipose complex

>adipose

>mfw


 No.1573

>>1429

"is fucking" where fucking is an adj

是=is/are/be

他妈的=swearing word, literally "his mother's", but can be used 2rd person too i.e. you swear at someone "你他妈的" / "你妈的", both work; can be roughly translated as "you fucker". but generally 他妈的 is an adj or adv.

but it is also possible for 是他妈的 to mean "it is his mother's", depending on context. ofc people often would avoid talking like that to avoid misunderstanding, but they could also do it intentionally for comical effects.




 No.1569[Reply]

Any of you ever taught a language abroad (almost certainly English)? I was wondering how to get started. I'd really like to experience that.

I have a bachelor's degree in law and some graduate studies in translation (I dropped out, it bored me). I was raised bilingual in English and French so I speak both fluently and without any foreign accent (I speak Canadian English and Canadian French, but in regards to French I can easily modify my accent to make it "international"). Still, I consider my real mother tongue to be French. Given that my English is just as good, will anyone care?

I also have a perfect TOEIC certificate (highest score in every category). I could probably pass TEFL certification easily if needed.

If any of you have any experience, I'd like to know how fierce the competition is, what it's like, how are the conditions, etc. I don't mind relocating to Third World shitholes, as long as they're not in Africa, and learning the local language.



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 No.1534[Reply]

So, someone just brought back Sharedtalk or what appears to be a clone of it.

In the final days of ST there was a bot message circulating written by the former founder of ST announcing a new site so this could be it.

Check it out.

The right environment for your socially awkward, language-learning chantard. No profile pics and social networking bullshit, an old-fashioned chat site.

sharedlingo.com

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 No.1542

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I don't blame you.


 No.1560

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The Russian woman contacted me again and asked me what my real name was and why I was at home on a Saturday night.

OP lied, this site is not a safe space for socially anxious people!


 No.1561

>>1560

She wants the passaporto :^)


 No.1563

>>1560

She wants the Д


 No.1564

>>1563

Glagolithic is better :^)




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 No.1557[Reply]

Stephen Krashen on Language Acquisition

His talk about the power of reading is also interesting.

 No.1558

I agree with this view that 100% immersion is a bullshit method but what conclusion do we draw from the anxiety message? Should we just do away with graded language classes or what? And do adults really learn like children? Isn't he conflating language acquisition and language learning a bit here? What do you think OP?


 No.1559

>>1558

The Finnish school system makes grades optional for students up to the 8th grade and in general tries not to put too much pressure on them, and yet we see that it consistently comes on top, or near the top, in every international ranking. So maybe they're doing something right.

>And do adults really learn like children? Isn't he conflating language acquisition and language learning a bit here?

Some people make a distinction between learning a language and studying a language. The idea is to treat language as a skill to be developed rather than as a subject to be known. From this point of view, learning and acquiring a language are essentially the same thing.

I'm not sure if adults learn exactly like children, but since all children manage to learn a language, I think it makes sense to look at how they do it and then base our models on that. Perhaps the most obvious difference between children and adults is that adults already know a language, but is that a disadvantage or an advantage?


 No.1562

>>1559

>The Finnish school system makes grades optional for students up to the 8th grade

Intredasting.




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 No.1546[Reply]

Has anyone ever been to one of these Polyglot conventions or plans to attend one?

What are they like?

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 No.1550

Never been to one.

>>1548

I get the whole criticism of snobbiness and I dislike this whole 'polyglot identity' talk that people like Argulles seem to push because he thinks that multilingual people are like mutants that have to be fostered by a Mr. Xavier of languages who he considers to be himself, lol.

But in my opinion it's just another way of people to connect with others that share their interests. I mean aren't we doing that right now, just digitally?

They have informal meetings but also scheduled talks, discussions and presentations on related topics or workshops on specific languages.

There are some interesting talks among the ones that they have uploaded on their youtube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_8BR59zKgBzeWPxFtmHSwA/videos?view=0&flow=grid&sort=p


 No.1553

>>1550

You might be right but I tried watching a couple of talks and they were terrible (the ones about the 5 hacks and the most effective way to learn languages).


 No.1554

>>1553

Well, the ones which go like 'this is how you learn a language in two days with this simple trick' are obvious shit, tbqh.


 No.1555

>>1553

So they're like the e-celebs of the linguistic world? :^)


 No.1556

>>1555

Some of them kind of are micro-celebs that have their own following and others are complete hacks that scam you out of your money by selling you their 'unique method' but most of the time it's both.




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 No.1544[Reply]

So after monetizing duolingo by crowdsourced translations failed, they are now using their brand recognition which they have established to start a remote language evalutation business that provides certificates for just as low as $20.

>The Duolingo Test Center provides scientifically-proven language certification. Certificate exams are extremely secure with remote proctoring, and the scores are extremely precise. The exam is convenient and can be taken directly at home at the fraction of the cost of other recognized certifications offered.

https://testcenter.duolingo.com/

Has this the potential of acquiring a relevant level of recognition and shatter the overpriced certificate oligopoly?

 No.1545

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They also let you participate in a short and free trial test if you log in with your duolingo account.


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According to this article:

http://techcrunch.com/2014/07/23/duolingo-launches-its-language-certification-program/

>Duolingo is also working with the freelancer site oDesk, which will display test scores on profiles on its site and with LinkedIn, which will allow test takers to publish their scores on the resumes on its sites with just a few clicks. The company is also working with the government of Costa Rica to distribute the exam across schools.

Their Android app has been a success, and a study found that their test results correlate "substantially" with the TOEFL. However it's a single study and it was funded by Duolingo. The potential for "disruption" is there but they need to stress that their test makes it harder to cheat and provide more (third-party) evidence that their results are reliable.


 No.1549

>>1547

>"disruption" is there but they need to stress that their test makes it harder to cheat and provide more (third-party) evidence that their results are reliable.

I read some posts which said the application will kick you out because of the slightest hint of fraud but there seems to be an issue with complementing input methods and spellcheckers on the mobile version.

Well, maybe they will just occupy a niche in areas where there is no need for the expensive TOEFL evaluations while more prestigious instutions like universities will still rely on the old test.

I hope that it will be succesful and become a recognized alternative to the elaborate and expensive tests.

Maybe they will move on to provide certificates for other languages in the very distant future.

Who knows.




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 No.1535[Reply]

So, I'm not studying linguistics and I know the meme(ur major is linguistics? how many languages do you speak? XD) but I'm wondering how common it is to learn languages that have a certain relevancy to the field.

In particular I'm interested whether it is somehow common or at least a little bit noteworthy that some linguists end up learning Lithuanian for example because of its conservative and indo-European grammar.

If this question doesn't make any sense from the perspective of someone who is professionally involved in the field then just let me know.

 No.1543

>my conservative Indo-European language

Lithuanian is just as conservative as Welsh :^)




 No.1531[Reply]

How did we collectively lose this intimate experience of nature? This is not a casual question: Abram suggests it may be at the root of our environmental crisis, and may contain the only solution to it. In his book The Spell of the Sensuous, he presents an intriguing hypothesis: he links “nature blindness” to the practice of alphabetic writing. While pictographic scripts like Chinese, Mayan, and Ancient Egyptian refer to natural forms, the Greek alphabet—not to mention the Roman characters you are reading now—reference only the phonemes of human speech, creating an abstract, exclusively human world. Abram compellingly cites studies of oral cultures to show that their speech is inextricably bound with non-human life forms and the landscapes that they inhabit.

Non-literate peoples, he suggests, experience nature immediately, personally, and intimately: a mode sometimes designated by the term “animism.” It is exceedingly difficult,” Abram writes, “for us literates to experience anything approaching the vividness and intensity with which surrounding nature presents itself to the members of an indigenous oral community.”[5] When we began to write and read, Abram claims, “The participatory proclivity of the senses was simply transferred from the depths of the surrounding life-world to the visible letters of the alphabet.”[6] When we read, we unconsciously endow the abstract shapes of letters with an uncanny life, coming to our minds as voices and images, appropriating the vitality with which humans formerly perceived the natural world.

http://www.humansandnature.org/how-to-walk-on-the-earth



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 No.1492[Reply]

JUST LANG MY SHIT UP FAM

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 No.1514

LAAAAAAAAAAANGING IN MY SKIIIIIIN


 No.1515

I fucking knew the shitposters on brit/pol/ weren't actually British.

Lang my shit up fams


 No.1516

>>1515

>AUSTRALIANS AREN'T BRITISH

YOU'VE BEEN OUT IN THE COLD TOO LANG


 No.1518

Thanks for the IPs guise.


 No.1520

lang time no see




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