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Conlangs? Anonymous 03/19/15 (Thu) 21:06:25 No.739 [Reply]

Does this board support the learning and/or the construction of fictional or artificial languages?

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Anonymous 02/18/16 (Thu) 05:37:00 No.1475

It should also not be based on Romance cos those have already been done to death. I actually started to make a conlang and a script for a story I was writing, it kinda looks like Turkish and Middle Mongol crossed with Slavic.

Anonymous 02/18/16 (Thu) 17:46:02 No.1478

>>1458

>nun

>pov

>skrib

>kaj

>tut

>inter'kompren

This sounds so fake and gay, it's worse than esperanto. Also Greek is too obscure to be useful and too important to be speshul, he should stick with emoji + English. Which would still be retarded as fuck, but hey.

Anonymous 02/22/16 (Mon) 11:09:16 No.1488

>>1478

p sure that is esperanto, one with morphemes delimited and using x instead of the fancy roof

Anonymous 02/22/16 (Mon) 20:10:24 No.1508

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>>1488 (CHECKED LAD)

Anonymous 02/22/16 (Mon) 20:13:54 No.1512

>>1488

PRAISED BE LANG

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Anonymous 02/21/15 (Sat) 13:58:14 No.557 [Reply]

Linguists have recently reconstructed what a 6,000 year-old-language called Proto-Indo-European might have sounded like. This language was the forerunner of many European and Asian languages, and now you can listen to what it may have sounded like.

https://soundcloud.com/archaeologymag/sheep-and-horses

http://io9.com/listen-to-what-our-ancestors-language-sounded-like-6-0-1403832049

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Anonymous 03/07/15 (Sat) 10:48:44 No.691

>>689
The fact that /pol/ had something to say about it doesn't surprise me, after all it's a political board and politics is one of those subjects where everyone feels entitled to have an opinion, regardless of their level of education.

Anonymous 03/13/15 (Fri) 03:26:27 No.723

Just a "grain of salt" for you guys: the grammar is probably correct, but the sounds used might not be the ones the Proto-Indo-European speakers used. Specially with three certain consonants, usually dubbed "h1", "h2" and "h3".

Transcription of the text accordingly to Byrd:
>h₂óuis h₁éḱuōs-kʷe
h₂áuei h₁iosméi h₂ulh₁náh₂ né h₁ést, só h₁éḱuoms derḱt. só gʷrhₓúm uóǵʰom ueǵʰed; só méǵh₂m bʰórom; só dʰǵʰémonm h₂ṓḱu bʰered. h₂óuis h₁ékʷoibʰios ueuked: “dʰǵʰémonm spéḱioh₂ h₁éḱuoms-kʷe h₂áǵeti, ḱḗr moi agʰnutor”. h₁éḱuōs tu ueukond: “ḱludʰí, h₂ouei! tód spéḱiomes, nsméi agʰnutór ḱḗr: dʰǵʰémō, pótis, sē h₂áuies h₂ulh₁náh₂ gʷʰérmom uéstrom uept, h₂áuibʰios tu h₂ulh₁náh₂ né h₁esti. tód ḱeḱluuṓs h₂óuis h₂aǵróm bʰuged.

However, not only this is barely unreadable but I disagree with Byrd's /a/; I think /a/ in PIE is what people is marking as h2, and Byrd's "a" is actually /ao/ or /aó/. So re-rendering it:
>Aówis hékwos-kwe
Aówei hyosméy awlhnóa né hést, só hékwoms derkt. só gwrhúm wóghom weghed; só mégam bhórom; só dghémonm aówis hékwoybhyos wewked: "dghémonm spékyoa hékwoms-kwe aógeti, kér moy aghnutor". Hékwós tu wewkond: "kludhí, aowey! Tód spékyomes, nsméy aghnutór kér: dghémó, pótis, sé aówyes awlhnóa gwhérmom wéstrom wept, aówibhyos tu awlhnóa né hesti. Tód mamma mialuwos aówis aogróm bhuged.

>Holy shit, completely alien!
Not that much.
Aówis: sheep, nominative; compare it with Latin ouis /owis/.
Hékwos-kwe: "and horse". Almost identical to Latin: equus-que /ekwus-kwe/
Spékyoa: has a cognate in current English - "speak".
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Anonymous 02/17/16 (Wed) 13:25:01 No.1467

Sounds fucking stupid, it's like Swedish and English had a retarded baby. I hate it.

Anonymous 02/18/16 (Thu) 05:33:39 No.1474

>>1467

Only because of the autist's faggot accent. Also scholars still don't agree on the phonology of PIE, some fags think it had ejectives and the H's were pharyngeal and uvular which makes it sound like a Northern Caucasian language which the speakers were probably in contact with.

Anonymous 02/22/16 (Mon) 18:59:06 No.1491

He has a disgusting accent. Most disgustingly, he aspirates the plosives, yuck.

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Just a reminder Anonymous 03/23/15 (Mon) 21:22:48 No.761 [Reply]

Turkish can now be learned on Duolingo.
The course is still in beta so expect some bugs and inconsistencies.

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Anonymous 04/24/15 (Fri) 21:11:38 No.854

>>845

It is great. Just don't let it be your ONLY tool.

Anonymous 04/26/15 (Sun) 07:34:55 No.855

>>845

It's ok for making you develop a first feeling for the language and give you enough vocabulary to work with but there are no explicit grammar lessons as far as I know. So like the posters above me said don't use it as yout only ressource or don't expect to be functionally fluent after finishing the course. If you aren't bored too much by the exercises then I think that it's a good starting point.

Anonymous 05/13/15 (Wed) 10:09:50 No.875

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>tfw Duolingo will never offer Breton

>tfw Duolingo will never offer Basque

>tfw Duolingo will never offer Romansh

>tfw Duolingo will never offer sub-dialects of major languages

Anonymous 02/17/16 (Wed) 10:32:07 No.1462

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Türkçe biliyorum

Anonymous 02/18/16 (Thu) 19:50:35 No.1479

tell me when they get mandarin and I might check out duomeme

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Anonymous 10/10/15 (Sat) 12:29:39 No.1201 [Reply]

>Yuchi has noun genders or classes based on three distinctions of position: standing, sitting or lying. All nouns are either standing, sitting or lying. Trees are standing, and rivers are lying, for instance. It it is taller than it is wide, it is standing. It if is wider than it is tall, it is lying. If it is about as about as wide as it is tall, it is sitting. All nouns are one of these three genders, but you can change the gender for humorous or poetic effect.

>A linguist once asked a group of female speakers whether a penis was standing, sitting or lying. After lots of giggles, they said the default was sitting, but you could say it was standing or lying for poetic effect.

What are some other weird language features you know of?

Anonymous 10/10/15 (Sat) 13:35:22 No.1202

Holy shit this is hilarious.

I've already posted this but whatever.

>Aboriginal languages of Australia are well known, in linguistic circles at least, for having four classes: men and animate things; women, fire, and dangerous things; edible fruits and vegetables; and miscellaneous things. Political guru George Lakoff, who focuses on how people's political thinking grows out of the metaphors they embrace, picked up on this second gender and wrote a book about it called "Women, Fire, and Dangerous Things."

>This gets us to how "airplane" became a vegetable. In the Aboriginal language of Gurr-goni, spoken in northern Australia, there is a special gender for "edible vegetables," according to linguist Guy Deutscher in his book "The Unfolding of Language." Other plants were eventually included in this "edible" gender, he speculates, as were wooden objects, such as canoes, the Aboriginals' main means of transport. When Gurr-goni borrowed the English word "airplane" into their language, as "erriplen," they conceived of it as a sort of flying canoe, and assigned it to the vegetable gender. And that is how an airplane became a vegetable.

https://web.archive.org/web/20150717165638/http://m.csmonitor.com/2005/1005/p18s05-hfes.html

Anonymous 10/11/15 (Sun) 08:32:40 No.1207

Three words.

North Caucasian languages

Anonymous 01/18/16 (Mon) 06:56:04 No.1423

English's "do-support"'s pretty wacky.

Anonymous 02/18/16 (Thu) 01:21:44 No.1470

>>1423

Children do that sometimes with German here. It's regarded as a lazy way to dodge conjugations and bad style, so teachers discourage it.

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Anonymous 03/05/15 (Thu) 20:31:23 No.678 [Reply]

I read somewhere that "iron" is not pronounced "I Ron" but "I earn". This is bullshit, right?

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Anonymous 08/20/15 (Thu) 23:52:41 No.1089

>>879

The only useful comment in this thread and it was made by a Swede…

Anonymous 01/18/16 (Mon) 07:09:26 No.1424

No, it's truths, infa 100%. But if you say it like it's spelt, nobody will have any trouble understanding you.

Anonymous 01/19/16 (Tue) 04:00:48 No.1426

I say it something between /aiɽon/ and /ɑiɾøn/ with variation…

Anonymous 01/19/16 (Tue) 16:04:12 No.1428

[ahy-ern]

Maybe something like this

Anonymous 02/17/16 (Wed) 09:31:11 No.1461

Native English speaker, it's generally pronounced [ɨ ' ɢ̆ɯɴ̥]

Anonymous 10/20/15 (Tue) 21:51:02 No.1220 [Reply]

dudes.

duuudees.

we should make a conlang.

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Anonymous 01/30/16 (Sat) 22:24:05 No.1443

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>>1427

>>1431

>>1433

I hurt my throat trying to pronounce this shit and didn't even record it… oh well.

>>1441

I'll never understand clicks. I mean, how did they even come about? Did people in Africa get bored with their implosives and ejectives and wanted to do something even more autistic or what?

>>1442

>mfw a truly Marxist conlang does not have a genitive case

Anonymous 02/10/16 (Wed) 04:35:11 No.1449

>mfw this thread is still going

Anonymous 02/15/16 (Mon) 20:13:51 No.1454

>>1220

We already did. Check out "hahakish".

Anonymous 02/15/16 (Mon) 20:14:53 No.1455

>>1454

http://pastebin.com/i8KSkm4i

Anonymous 02/17/16 (Wed) 09:25:27 No.1460

>>1455

>no IPA

>based on nipponese

truly autistic

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Homophones Thread Anonymous 12/13/15 (Sun) 04:21:28 No.1381 [Reply]

Post the homophones you know, preferably from different languages.

>"三十一 ", 31 in nip (san juu ichi)

>"sanduíche", sandwich in Portuguese

>tfw can't watch nyaruko-san OP because it sounds like "sandwich sandwich"

>"Суки", bitches in russian, plural of сука (sukee)

>"好き", adjective which means like or love in japanese (suki)

>"く", Japanese sound effect used as laugh(kukuku) or as a groan (ku)

>cu, asshole in Portuguese

>"O pai", something like "Hey dad" in Portuguese

>おっぱい, boobs in nip (oppai)

>manco, someone who can't walk properly in Portuguese

>まんこ, pussy in nip

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Anonymous 12/22/15 (Tue) 22:00:20 No.1411

>>1410

yeah you're wrong

the only thing indefiniteness causes in armenian relating to noun cases is that it merges genitive and dative

otherwise in both cases you should use dative to mark the receiving end of an action

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dative_case#Armenian

Anonymous 12/23/15 (Wed) 00:22:16 No.1413

>>1410

This is really good stuff, got anymore?

Anonymous 01/06/16 (Wed) 03:01:59 No.1417

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>das Gift

>poison

Anonymous 01/12/16 (Tue) 23:22:35 No.1419

Benis (Persian: بنیس‎‎, also romanized as Benīs; also known as Benīz) is a village in Guney-ye Sharqi Rural District, in the Central District of Shabestar County, East Azerbaijan Province, Iran. At the 2006 census, its population was 1,422, in 455 families. Most Benisi residents work in Tehran.

Anonymous 02/10/16 (Wed) 04:38:07 No.1450

>>1419

>You will never shitpost in real time from Benis

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Anonymous 12/09/15 (Wed) 03:31:50 No.1368 [Reply]

How long do you think would it take learning Aramaic?

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Anonymous 12/11/15 (Fri) 19:37:47 No.1375

https://www.quora.com/How-long-would-it-take-a-beginner-to-learn-Arabic?

Anonymous 12/12/15 (Sat) 06:26:57 No.1379

>>1375

Nice shitpost

Anonymous 12/30/15 (Wed) 10:06:10 No.1414

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Hmm, I'm studying Classical Hebrew and it doesn't look that hard. Lots of guessing = experience is needed, but I think it's easier than Ancient Greek.

I don't know shit about Aramaic, but they're closely related.

Anonymous 01/18/16 (Mon) 00:01:47 No.1421

>>1414

Why are you learning Hebrew? Do you want to read the Tanakh?

Anonymous 02/09/16 (Tue) 18:35:36 No.1448

>>1421

Yes, and because I'd like to study Ancient Near Eastern cultures in the future. Also to swindle the גוים.

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Yiddish 11/26/14 (Wed) 16:20:41 No.376 [Reply]

Any Yiddish speakers or students of Yiddish?

Vu bist du lebendik?
Iz Yiddish deyn ershter shprakh?
Bist du Hasid?

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Anonymous 07/23/15 (Thu) 02:45:43 No.1017

>>992

Actually, you Anti-Semite shitlord, it's a ``culturally enriched`` version of German. Or, more likely, German is an evil, Nazi version of Yiddish.

t. Rabbi Goldstein

Anonymous 07/23/15 (Thu) 13:43:03 No.1018

Yiddisc is scites spræce.

Anonymous 08/17/15 (Mon) 11:50:53 No.1062

>>1018

>ni hrainijǭ aldþiudiskōnų sprekaną

Anonymous 08/20/15 (Thu) 19:29:50 No.1080

>>1062

>ealdþeodisc

>na englisc

þu eart ceorl, freond.

Anonymous 01/21/16 (Thu) 14:01:14 No.1432

>>880

>>992

Oy gevalt!

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Anonymous 01/15/16 (Fri) 19:32:33 No.1420 [Reply]

This video was on my youtube homepage yesterday, I found it quite informative.

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Anthem Thread Anonymous 12/12/15 (Sat) 22:55:20 No.1380 [Reply]

This is the Brasilian Anthem converted to Latin, post some kind of anthems!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPBANiSfwIY

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Anonymous 12/21/15 (Mon) 00:37:22 No.1398

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>>1396

>>1384

>preferring a debatable reconstruction to living, authentic pronunciation

>as if the Brazilian anthem was composed in the first century

Heathens and/or autismos detected.

Anonymous 12/21/15 (Mon) 03:59:23 No.1399

>>1398

>speaking the bastardized form of slaves and plebs

I bet you are iudaeus too

Anonymous 12/21/15 (Mon) 20:04:03 No.1405

>>1398

>living, authentic pronunciation

Which one? The Italian, French, or, even fucking German one?

I dare not propose using the British pronunciation of Latin because that's just beyond retarded.

Anonymous 12/22/15 (Tue) 19:25:59 No.1409

>>1405

The Italian one of course, from the place where Latin was never forgotten :^)

Sancta Catholica Apostolica Romana Ecclesia > saeculum

>>1399

Oi uei, genitles sciunt!

Anonymous 12/22/15 (Tue) 22:40:41 No.1412

>>1409

>not ROMANian one

absolutely plebeian

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Anonymous 12/09/15 (Wed) 06:13:28 No.1370 [Reply]

Hey, /lang/. There's a favor I would like to ask of you that I can't repay.

You see, I've been meaning to get around to learning cantonese, but haven't really made a worthwhile attempt at actually learning the language. Due to circumstances, I'd like to comprehend the language within one to three months from now, if I were starting tomorrow (Its midnight here).

I was wondering if anyone had any good resources they could share? I know its an uncommon language, but I would be appreciative if I had any help besides the one I found with a search engine.

Thanks in advance. I know its not much, but take this semi-relative wallpaper as the only form of repayment I can possibly think of.

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Anonymous 12/09/15 (Wed) 18:25:00 No.1372

>comprehend

As in read, or listen? You can learn to read any and all of the Chinese languages relatively quickly if you know one of them, but to listen is almost impossible even if you dedicate years to it. To write, also easier than to speak, and I would say that unless you're planning to move permanently to Hong Kong or otherwise have to learn to speak fluently and understand what people are talking about by listening, you could just cram the simple grammar and hanzi and do with that.

Anonymous 12/11/15 (Fri) 19:50:40 No.1376

>>1372

I've always heard weaboos say the opposite about Japanese (easy to speak/understand, difficult to read/write).

>>1370

https://www.reddit.com/r/Cantonese

Yes, I'm linking to a subreddit. They have a good list of resources.

Anonymous 12/11/15 (Fri) 23:42:13 No.1377

>>1376

>easy to speak/understand, difficult to read/write

To write you need to know the two 49 characters alphabets and kanji, whereas speaking/understanding is relatively easy since nip only has fifty something sounds.

From what I've heard other asian languages are a pain in the ass to understand though.

Anonymous 12/15/15 (Tue) 22:19:41 No.1391

>>1376

>he thinks Japanese is related to Chinese

Top haha.

>>1377

Hiragana and katakana are really easy, and kanji are literally hanzi by a different name. If you can't learn to read/write Japanese, you shouldn't even try any type of Chinese.

Anonymous 12/21/15 (Mon) 20:07:30 No.1406

>>1391

>kanji are literally hanzi by a different name

b-but my kokuji

chinks even reimported some of them, 鰯

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Anonymous 12/15/15 (Tue) 07:50:01 No.1390 [Reply]

Is Welsh a hard language to learn? The language looks like someone smashed their keyboard out came byddym sambys and a whole bunch of other crap. But will this make it harder than trying to learn any other language?

>Pic unrelated

Anonymous 12/17/15 (Thu) 00:33:25 No.1392

Most of the time, the difficulty of a language is evaluated by looking at one's native language.

If your target language is just distantly related to your native language then the target language is usually considered to be harder to learn.

For example, for a native English speaker, Welsh should be harder than Dutch because Dutch and English belong to the same branch(Germanic) of the Indo-European language family and are relatively closely related while it should be easier than say Japanese which doesn't to this language family at all.

Now, the orthography of Welsh is considered to be regular according to the website down belong. So, this actually should be the easiest part of learning the language. Still, I think that this part should be a bit easier to a native speaker of a language that corresponds more orthographically with Welsh.

So what's your native language OP?

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Welsh_pronunciation

>Fortunately, the pronunciation of Welsh words is regular and phonetic

>There are no silent letters. Every letter has a sound, and the sound is vocalized in spoken Welsh.

Anonymous 12/18/15 (Fri) 05:10:10 No.1397

Phonology is pretty easy, grammar will fuck your shit up

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First language wires brain for later language-learning Anonymous 12/12/15 (Sat) 01:16:44 No.1378 [Reply]

http://www.mcgill.ca/newsroom/channels/news/first-language-wires-brain-later-language-learning-257068

You may believe that you have forgotten the Chinese you spoke as a child, but your brain hasn’t. Moreover, that “forgotten” first language may well influence what goes on in your brain when you speak English or French today.

In a paper published today in Nature Communications, researchers from McGill University and the Montreal Neurological Institute describe their discovery that even brief, early exposure to a language influences how the brain processes sounds from a second language later in life. Even when the first language learned is no longer spoken.

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