No.1
What language are you learning?
What do you hate about it?
Russian doesn't have a "h" sound. Why?
No.2
Right now I'm sharpening my Spanish.
What do I hate…ehhh…I guess just that it's not very exciting for me to study it, since I can already have conversations and such I'm just kind of forcing myself to get good at grammar
>Russian doesn't have a "h" sound. Why?
хуй
No.6
>Russian doesn't have a "h" sound. Why?
In Spanish the h is not pronounced, albeit used, unless it's preceded by the c. Is the same in Russian?
No.24
>What language are you learning?
Mandarin Chinese
>What do you hate about it?
The fucking hanzi, the language itself would be easy as fuck if it wasn't because you have to memorize so many retarded symbols and make no mistake, they are retarded as fuck, inconsistent, impractical.
At the same time I love the language because of the same motive, hanzi are just fucking beautiful.
I'll live and die with this dichotomy in my soul.
No.26
Italian
the napolitans speak a different type of italian so i have to learn two languages
No.28
>>26Is that like an italian dialect or a completely different language?
No.30
>What language are you learning?
Spanish
>What do you hate about it?
Everything is shortened, or backwards. It's hard for me to remember how to say things the "Spanish way" and not just translate the English grammar into Spanish form
No.33
>What language are you learning?
Japanese
>What do you hate about it?
There are thousands of Kanji, and many of them have multiple pronunciations. There's also two alphabets (not including Kanji)
No.41
>>30>Everything is shortened, or backwardsIs it?
No.42
No.45
No.72
>>1>Russian doesn't have a "h" sound.What type of Russian are you learning? It's the x
No.76
>>33>There are thousands of Kanji, and many of them have multiple pronunciations.Nearly all of them have multiple readings. Some have as many as five or more, all depending on context.
>There's also two alphabets (not including Kanji)The two alphabets (hiragana, katakana) I would just equate to capital letters and lower case.
And then you know what else? Because there are so many different thousands of characters, you even come across characters which are technically supposed to be used but people actually rarely use outside of official documents or high-level academic work. 薔薇 and 鬱 are two good examples. I've been asking every single Japanese friend of mine whether they can read and/or write these. 7/11 can read 薔薇, 3/11 can read 鬱, and ZERO of 11 can write any of them from memory.
Then again, fluency in Japanese and basic understanding in written Chinese does absolutely wonders for your resume so I hope all this will be worth it.
No.77
>>76Guess I forgot to say–
>薔薇bara, lit. "rose".
normally written as バラ.
>鬱utsu, lit. "depression".
normally written as うつ.
so these aren't even obscure words
No.91
>>45What are you? Jewish?
No.132
>>2>>42>>72Russian "x" and English "h" are similar sounds… but not the same. The first is pronounced with the back of the tongue making a slight "contraction" of the airflow, in the second the tongue has no influence.
In fact, some languages even differentiate between both sounds - see German (Russian x = German Achlaut; English h = German h).
No.529
>What language are you learning?
Japanese.
>What do you hate about it?
Probably how verb endings can make it rather difficult to understand it when listening. The stem can sometimes be just one character.
Otherwise the multiple readings for characters can be rather frustrating. Sometimes I'll know what the word is/means but I'll get the pronunciation completely wrong.
No.532
>>41For the most part, in spanish there are alot of thing that you can ignore because the context makes it obvious they are there but in most other languages you have to include them anyway.
I can't give you any examples because i'm bad with examples.
No.533
>>28Officially it's a language, but many Italians still refer to it as a dialect.
No.534
>>532Fuck didn't see the flag
No.538
Japanese
Kanji for obvious reasons, the different readings and the number. But I've learned to embrace the struggle.
>>76But for some reason weaboos know 鬱 a lot because of 涼宮ハルヒの憂鬱.
No.703
>French
All the hip young folk speak French like absolute spastics, and I can't understand them in any films/music. Africans speak French like retards. Other than that it's a pretty chill language and all the French girls are very pretty.
>Japanese
Lost motivation. Can't understand most of what people say.
No.705
German
Fuck this language
No.706
>What language are you learning?
German.
>What do you hate about it?
Majority of Germans primarily speak Turkish.
No.707
>french
How you pronounce it it's not the way how it is written and viceversa.
Tone is extremely important.
No.708
>What languages are you learning?
German and Russian
>What do you hate about it?
I always mix up the pronouns and accusative/dative cases. I also can't seem to understand spoken German too well, starting to think I have hearing loss.
As for Russian, I have to read Cyrillic really damn slowly and it gets annoying after a while of stuttering out CHCHDVBACHANYEYOCHKANAYA.
No.709
>What language are you learning?
German and Hebrew
>What do you hate about it?
German: the grammar, the article and adjective endings to be exact: I can hear no difference between -en, -em and in fast speech even -e and -er - in Polish we pronounce the word endings very soft, so my pronunciation makes them undistinguishable
Hebrew: it's perfect - the grammar is easy, the writing is easy, the vocabulary is easy, the pronunciation is easy
the only thing that bothers me is the fact it's pretty useless - not spoken outside Israel, barely any good contemporary music or literature in it (or at least I haven't found much so far)
No.711
>What language are you learning?
Spanish.
>What do you hate about it?
Nothing. Spanish is like a strange version of portuguese. Vocabulary and grammar are pretty much the same.
No.717
>>711
>Spanish is like a strange version of portuguese>Portuguese is like a strange version of spanishfixd
No.718
>>717This is how I always saw it as well.
No.722
>>717>>711Both Castillian and Galician-Portuguese are strange versions of Iberian Medieval Latin.
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No.732
Russian
Idk, looks pretty easy. Maybe some things written differently than being spoken.
No.737
Currently learning espanol. My only gripes right now (beginner) are with 'lo, se, me, su' and etc and how to use it.
No.740
I'm learning Mandarin, with an end goal of learning Hakka.
I hate having to memorize thousands of characters, and that some of them can take an age to write. It definitely looks cool though.
No.745
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No.747
>>745It's a minoriry language spoken in Guangdong and Taiwan. My family originally spoke it in China but it wasn't passed down here. Tonally it's more similar to Cantonese than Mandarin, but I think overall it's a hybrid of a bunch of dialects. From what I've read the Hakka are sort of like the Gypsys of China, but they see themselves as the descendents of ancient noble houses who fled from the north.
No.762
>>708> I also can't seem to understand spoken German too wellWhat are your sources for spoken German?
No.767
For me, learning Spanish, its mostly the conjuncture and way you have to say things
No.793
>>6Not OP, but there's literally no "h" sound in Russian. They have a "hard H" (x), but no "soft h" (h)
No.794
>>42>>91It's like the "ch" in (Scottish) "loch" or (German) "Ich"
No.804
>>762Well, I'm taking classes at school so whatever material there is used plus movies/tv-shows and random Youtube videos. But I feel like my understanding of the language got exponentially better last month, stuff started making sense at last.
No.824
>>1Japanese
There are so many kanji and many strokes
also, how can you read those masive kanji with a computer? it's just look like a group of nothing
>>76this
>>717this is what i'm going to say lol
No.862
>>794
>or (German) "Ich"
German has two CH sounds… Ach-sound (the one you probably meant - same as Russian x) and Ich-sound (far softer).
More info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_phonology#Ich-Laut_and_ach-Laut
No.866
>>1
>What language are you learning?
I am learning French and Japanese
>What do you hate about it?
The Kani obviously. The hard part isn't the characters themselves but the readings. HOLY FUCK the readings. I don't understand how someone is supposed to memorize that outside of just constant study and immersing yourself in the language.
As for French, I'm not sure. It's a really easy language compared to Japanese so I don't mind it that much. The conjugations suck I guess. Outside of that, French is a fairly simple for a Native English speaker. At least, that's what I have found in my case.
I'm also thinking of starting to learn Mongolian because I want to ride a Mongolian woman like Genghis Khan. Not sure if I want to though. I feel like adding another language might fuck with me too much, plus Mongolian is a fucking useless language. So maybe instead of Mongolian I should learn German, or maybe Norwegian.
No.874
>>1
>What language are you learning?
French.
I'm of Cajun French ancestry, so it's more of exploring my roots than anything.
>What do you hate about it?
Initially the gendered words was a bit weird to me, but I got acclimated to it.
Beyond that, it's much easier than I anticipated.
No.882
>>874
Do you know some interesting Cajun French peculiarities?
No.884
>>882
Unfortunately no.
My great great grandmother was fluent, but she didn't teach anybody Cajun.
From my understanding, Cajuns tend to pronounce consonants more than the French.
No.887
>>866
>Learning languages because they're useful.
No.901
>or (German) "Ich"
Not quite.
'ch' after 'a', 'o', 'u' and 'au' is like the scottish "loch".
And 'ch' after the front vowels 'e', 'ä', 'i', 'ei', 'eu', 'äu' and 'ö', or after a consonant is softer, like "Blech". Just enter into Google Translator and listen to how it's pronounced.
No.911
>>901
Since we're speaking about German ich-Laut, it would be really helpful for me if you (or any other German speaker) could check if I'm pronouncing stuff properly. Could you do it for me?
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0UTLSfCqQYC
No.914
German
Genders
I know most languages have it though.
No.915
>>911
Sounds good but what is the first word supposed to be? Chaus? Or is it just for practice?
No.916
>>915
I thought it was raus.
No.927
No.969
>>911
raus, aus, haus, ich, fisch, auch
Were those the words?
Audio was very low quality, but what I can tell pronunciation was pretty accurate.
No.990
>>901
It's the other way around.
Ach-laut is [x] and ich-laut is [ç].