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 No.1220

dudes.

duuudees.

we should make a conlang.

 No.1222

Let's make a /bane/ one, using only the words {Bane, big, guy, hot, head, hothead, you, you're, a, for, it, would, be, very , painful, for}.


 No.1224

I propose Plutonian-Administered Socotra English.

What if the island of Socotra, which is south of Yemen and east of Somalia, was invaded by cybernetic aliens from Pluto, and they enslaved the human population? What if said aliens had learned everything about humans from the internet, TV, movies, games, literature, etc. especially from English-language stuff? And, since very few people in Socotra speak English, the aliens would teach it to them so that they could do all the work for them, including ones that require language skills. What would the human population's language turn out like?

Starting off with a normal English sentence, I'm going to simulate its evolution:

I am a human being and the Plutonians are my masters.

First, let's simplify it a little for context:

I'm being human and the Plutonians are my masters.

Now, a little phonetic shift towards simplified Arabic/Socotran:

Aym beeng yuman and de Plutonyans are may masters.

Let's strip the short vowels, indicating that the Arabic script was used and the language was taught in this format to kids:

Aym bng yumn nd d Pltnyns r m mstrs.

New vowels would likely develop with time, especially if the Latin alphabet was introduced and phonetics weren't taught much:

Ayem bang yumen ende Plutonyens ir me mistors.

Then, let's simplify the phonetics and drop some shit because people would probably speak fast and thus drop some bits:

Yem ban yumen end Plutonyes irm mistos.

Adding some random ass Semitic adjectives because Semitic languages would undoubtedly influence it:

Yem ban basit yumen end qebir Plutonyes irm magit mistos.

>basit = simple, qebir = great, magit = glorious; I used google translate and friendgotry, haha

Now, let's imply an alphabet reform because those tend to happen, and influence the language a little bit:

Jëm ban bësit jumën end qëber Plutonjes erm maget mestos.

Adding more diacritics for no reason because why not:

Jëm ban bëšit jümën end qëber Plutoñes erm mäget meštös.

Then, no diacritics or shit at all but digraphs:

Dzaem ban baeshit dzyumaen end qaeber Plutonjes erm meadzhet meshtoes.

Then, a little spice-up:

Dzaim ban bae-shit dzyu-men end qae-beer Pluton-jes er-em meadzhet mesh-toes.

Pointless pseudo-Frenchification because the aliens conquered France and brought French slaves:

J'aim bæn bae-shité çû-mené travæur end qæ-béer Pluton-jesé énormes erém mæjet meç-tœx.

>travæur = hard-working, énormes = powerful

As a final touch, strip it all down to an English-like gibberish ass form:

Jim's been bae-shit chu men trevor end que-beer Pluton cheese enormous here I'm magic jet mech-taxes.

Jim's been bae-shit chu men trevor end que-beer Pluton cheese enormous here I'm magic jet mech-taxes.

…yeah, maybe this isn't that great an idea after all.


 No.1225

okay op here.

i've got another idea.

basically, we make a conlang, you know a vocabulary, phonology, and some grammar / syntax.

then, we take this language, and each of us develop it into another, more evolved form.

then we compare that shit.


 No.1227

>>1225

So, we pretty much make a conlang family?

Bonus if we only make the proto-conlang very vague so we come to quite different results.


 No.1228

>>1227

>So, we pretty much make a conlang family?

Yeah, basically.


 No.1231

Proto Conlang

Basically the most autistic language

agglutinative

you have to state everything about whatever you're talking about (location, state, direction, time, etc.)

5 noun classes;

autistic

female

normie

inanimate object

animate object/fleshlight

Phonology;

pɸ, ʙ, ç, ɢʁ, w, ħ, ɖ, ʈ, ɴ, ʛ.

ɯ, e:, a::, ɪ.


 No.1232

>>1231

Descendents can split into ever more progressively autistic grammars versus simplification leading into standard normie language


 No.1234

>>1231

Great. What about syllable structure?

Let's make it coda-heavy. (C)VCC(CCC) should probably do the trick.


 No.1238

>>1234

bueno


 No.1239

>>1234

>>1238

[pɸa::çʈ] "to eat hotpockets after dinner while laying on a bed in the direction of a tv playing anime"

Should also add allophones for existing consonants, such as labialization in contact with [ʙ] and [w], rounded vowels, Glottal states (creaky, breathy voice).


 No.1241

Testing to see if we have working diacritics on this board…

œ


 No.1242

>>1241

Fuck the board owner.

Enable combining diacritics right now or this board is on the same tier of useful as a deafmute Vietnamese orphan.


 No.1243

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>>1242

I think it was disabled by default. There's no need to shout, you… you… double nigger


 No.1244

>>1239

>such as labialization in contact with [ʙ] and [w], rounded vowels, Glottal states (creaky, breathy voice).

so labials cause vowels to become rounded and labialise consonants; also that should probably also include [pɸ], right?

what about backing in contact with uvulars [ɢʁ], [ɴ], [ʛ];

[e:] > [ɘ:]

[a::] > [ɑ::]

[ɪ] > [ᵻ]

[ɯ] is already back vowel and stays being [ɯ]

for now while we don't have all allophone rules let's just write in phonemic transcription, we'll add phonetic values later

/ɯħɴʛ/ "to get a massive boner from looking at pics of your waifu"


 No.1245

>>1244

sounds fucking good mayne

So the vowels are kinda like Turkic/Mongolian? Also you can add more consonants if you want.


 No.1246

>>1245

>>1245

I was trying to model the consonants on spergy accents and sounds, also meme shit like [ɴ] from Japanese and [ç] on huehue. Also I don't think there should be an Alveolar r because spergs usually replace it with [w]. There's a guy on the /v/ mumble with a really autistic accent, I'll observer him and record any linguistic quirks.


 No.1247

ɯ>ɰ

y>ɥ

w̃ replaces w in coda

vowels on the end of words become creaky voiced

Also add in pʰʷ ɾ~ɽ ʋ ɕ


 No.1248

pʰʷ ʈ+consonant cluster>ʈʂ ɖ+consonant cluster>ɖʐ pɸ>bβ ɕ>ʑ ʋ ʙ ɾ+back vowel > ɽ w+final consonant>w̃ ç>ʝ ɴ ɢʁ>qχ ħ

e: > ɘ: a:: > ɑ:: ɪ > ᵻ ɯ>ɰ y>ɥ


 No.1249

Forgot ɬ fam


 No.1250

>>1247

>ɯ>ɰ

>y>ɥ

Context please? Where do those two vowels become non-syllabic?


 No.1251

>>1247

also

>vowels on the end of words

the current syllable structure >>1234

doesn't support word-final vowels


 No.1252

>>1250

Coda? Just throwing ideas bruh

>>1251

scrap it then


 No.1254

>>1243

Does it work now, though? Testing s͌đz̧… :D


 No.1255

wtf I get "flood detected" but my post didn't even get posted


 No.1256

>>1254

>>1255

What, now it shows up. Whatever. Yay, THE DIACRITICS WORK! :D


 No.1258

/e:ɬwɕ/ "piss bottle"

/ʈɪʙçʛ/ "the feeling of superiority when you're not a normie"


 No.1259

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>>1258

>mfw trying to pronounce ʈɪʙçʛ


 No.1262

Should we make a super autistic writing system to go along with this?


 No.1265

>>1262

of courshe


 No.1266

>>1262

pretty sure IPA is quite autistic itself


 No.1267

>>1266

Why not go one further


 No.1268

Writing system should be an ideographic, boustrophedon-directional abugida.


 No.1269

>>1268

>ideographic

>abugida

how are those two supposed to go together

also syllable structure won't work with abugida


 No.1270

>>1231

>female and normie are seperate classes


 No.1271

>>1269

Fuck I was thinking of the Arabic alphabet with optional vowel diacritics


 No.1272

>>1271

so an ideographic abjad?


 No.1273

>>1272

Yeah


 No.1274

>>1273

I'm trying to wrap my head around how that would work.

Maybe, like there are base letters (actually, what do you call the symbols in an abjad?), that form together to make a base ideogram, which is then used in varying contexts according to the idea it represents?

This truly is the most autistic conlang.


 No.1277

>>1274

that sounds pretty interesting actually

you're supposed to write letters in a way that your word resembles its meaning


 No.1279

>>1274

>>1277

It's also gotta be aesthetically pleasing.


 No.1282

How about a three-dimensional writing system?


 No.1283

>>1282

How would you write on paper?


 No.1284

Also I think the writing system should be (very) loosely based on Katakana for obvious reasons


 No.1287

>>1284

What's the obvious reason? Because they were used in the Matrix?


 No.1288

>>1287

because weebs are autistic


 No.1427

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Is any of this possible to pronounce? My mouth has shit coordination so I fail trying, but maybe it is different for you fams?

/ʀʉʕɔ̃ɮɚɬɚʍʉʝəχ/

/ʂɚʀʰʕɚʈ̩ǁyːɮ/

/ʍɚǃχɻʰøŋ’ɻø/

/ɴɤːǃ̩ŋǃ̩ɤʡʜʉː/

/dɮɚɬʁʰʕɔ̃ŋə/

/ʡʼɚʐɓɑːbɬʛʝʉøːʀɚʁɻ̩ɬɑ̃ʛ̥ɑ/

/ŋʼɚʍʡʼæːtʼəǃəʀæχɕ/

/pɔɖɔ̃dʐyʡɖʕɤŋ/


 No.1431

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/ʄəçʡʼɔɬəʡʼɔ/

/ɒ̈çɬʄɚʡʼə/

/ɴɚɨɬʉɬɚɠʉ/

/ʡʼɔɴħɔ̃ʡʼɚ/

/ʛʀyʡʼʏːʡʼɵʡʼɒχiɠʡʼɒː/

/ɞɖʐaɖðɒʁʏdðχ/

/βɚʕɮʡʼœ̃ɬʡœ̃ɸʼɚɮæʕpʼæːŋ/

/ðøʁɚʡʀʉpʼɵʡ/

/ǀæ̃ŋʀoŋyːʕʰʊǃɒɬʡʼɹɒɮʛ̥ħʰʢɚʡʼʀõːθ/


 No.1433

File: 1453487729527.png (438.98 KB, 600x470, 60:47, te1-nigga-wtf.png)

/θødʑøʡʼəːβd̠ɹ̠˔ʁəθbʒø/

/ʃtθɐʡʜcçⱱ̟ɐʀ/

/ʡʜɬɚθʃʡʜtʡθ/

/ʜʊ˞χʼøɓ̥ʕʃʕəʜʼʊːʡʼʐdɮʉʑʉb/

/ɬχʼʉɮøθχʼəʀʕʊʁ/

/ðɬæʕøʕɬχʼɨʡʊʕʝʛyːθʡʼɚɠʕəɓʕʒʐɯʡʜʼɚ/

/θlɛⱱ̟ʀɛɴɬoʐiŋʛɐʕɐʘ̃ɐlʝi/

/ʜɞʈʀɤʜǀ̬økʼɔð/

/ɬʃɔ˞ħɠʕʁyːħliʃʡʼiː/

/ŋʼəʘ̃ŋʼyːʕəŋɖχʼyːʝʍɾħpæɢ/


 No.1436

I discovered this thing when googled "voiced labial linguo-glottalic affricate"…

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UFhvep8dGVXSkcd9VVro_d5IBN9Lq6CuO8DgNs6jDg8/edit?pref=2&pli=1

It looks pretty cancerous but funny, I like the strange construction of it…


 No.1441

>>1427

>/ʂɚʀʰʕɚʈ̩ǁyːɮ/

>/ʍɚǃχɻʰøŋ’ɻø/

>/ɴɤːǃ̩ŋǃ̩ɤʡʜʉː/

those aren't because clicks must be coarticulated in the back, click is pronounced by releasing air constricted to your mouth so the tongue needs to block the throat somehow; you have bare clicks which are impossible


 No.1442

>>1436

>ay’y lmaꙮ - Alien or an extremely ugly person

>dꙮnaldtrump - a person who tries to identify with the lower middle class by means of shoddy hair selection and pumping his daughter full of silicone.

>Tense system (go at end of verb, indicate what kind of tent something happened in)

-yurt

-tipi

-tent

-hè

-tarp

-wigwam

-tupiq

-pandal

-lꙮue

-kꙮhte


 No.1443

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>>1427

>>1431

>>1433

I hurt my throat trying to pronounce this shit and didn't even record it… oh well.

>>1441

I'll never understand clicks. I mean, how did they even come about? Did people in Africa get bored with their implosives and ejectives and wanted to do something even more autistic or what?

>>1442

>mfw a truly Marxist conlang does not have a genitive case


 No.1449

>mfw this thread is still going


 No.1454

>>1220

We already did. Check out "hahakish".


 No.1455


 No.1460

>>1455

>no IPA

>based on nipponese

truly autistic




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