How do you get in contact with the language you are learning? Basically how do you practice it aside from your actual learning resources (books, programs etc)? For English this is really easy but for other languages not so much.Best would be to be in a

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Anonymous 11/01/14 (Sat) 00:59:52 No.37

How do you get in contact with the language you are learning? Basically how do you practice it aside from your actual learning resources (books, programs etc)? For English this is really easy but for other languages not so much.

Best would be to be in a place where the language is spoken but obviously that's rarely the case for learners.
Do you have a friend (irl or online) who speaks the language whom you talk to? How to you get to know this person? Do you browse sites in the language (if so post some)? Are you active on imageboards, communities or similar (if so post some)? Do you watch stuff in the language to not only read but also listen to it?

Personally I'm still searching for this kind of stuff (learning Portuguese). At the moment I'm just trying to understand the general on /int/ etc. Actual talking is way too fast for me (fucking romance languages and their lightning tongues)

Anonymous 11/01/14 (Sat) 02:04:22 No.39

>>37
What I'm doing now is reading manga in my target language (chinese).

Comics are great for learning because the context is in the drawing that makes it way easier to understand the sentences. Also like the target of this comics are kids (shounen manga) the sentences are mostly not very complicated.

I have the same problem with movies or tv series, they speak too fast in their syllabic language and the huge amount of homophones the language has makes it incomprehensible for a non expert.
OP has it easy with romance languages there are almost no homophones.

Anonymous 11/01/14 (Sat) 02:27:18 No.40

>>39
>Comics are great for learning because the context is in the drawing that makes it way easier to understand the sentences. Also like the target of this comics are kids (shounen manga) the sentences are mostly not very complicated.
this sounds really smart
might search for some stuff, thanks for the tip
>OP has it easy with romance languages there are almost no homophones
that's what you get for picking a tonal language. German e.g. doesn't have any homophones I think (it's because we're so manly X–DDDDD)
>avô
>grandfather
>avó
>grandmother
but I'm not complaining, it's pretty alright

Anonymous 11/01/14 (Sat) 18:55:33 No.44

I'm watching kids anime dubbed in my target language. Card captor sakura for example.

I'm lucky that where i live in the u.s., there is a bunch of linguistic diversity. So i can talk to people occasionally.

Anonymous 11/05/14 (Wed) 22:18:54 No.98

>>37
Have you tried lang-8.com?

Anonymous 11/07/14 (Fri) 01:08:29 No.124

>>98
this is pretty cool, I just registered. Thanks

Anonymous 11/07/14 (Fri) 05:22:54 No.126

Quite a coincidence, since I'm a Portuguese speaker learning German…

Besides the classes, my approach to German has been the following:

1. Reading what I like in the target language, specially books I already read in other langs, so I can use what I remember to help me to "hack" the text.

2. Wikipedia - checking firstly the articles in German, only then shifting to English Wikipedia. It's counter-productive for the subjects I want to study about, but really helpful with the language.

3. Music - listening while I read the lyrics and try to get their meaning. Not just translating; if I understand what it means in German but not in other languages, I just move on.

4. Bugging native speakers* with either questions about grammar or just trying to chat.

5. Google Translator ONLY as dictionary. Never for complete sentences, just spare words. This requires at least some knowledge of the grammar [in my case, Trennbare Verben; in your case, some suffixes.]

Ich glaube, dass genug nicht ist, aber es mir hilft.

>Actual talking is way too fast for me (fucking romance languages and their lightning tongues)
Unlike in German, most Romance languages tend to "merge" words [this is known in French as liaison]; this is part of our speech pattern. In Portuguese, it happens specially when two vowels meet, the first one ends "deleted" (so "olhe a aranha ali" might sound for you like "olharanhali"), so have this in mind when trying to understand what the other person is saying.

Ah, boa sorte com seus estudos… como muitos costumam dizer, "você já aprendeu um idioma quando era criança… não é difícil aprender outro quando adulto". Então, não desista. :D

Anonymous 11/08/14 (Sat) 13:27:28 No.155

>>126
>1. Reading what I like in the target language, specially books I already read in other langs, so I can use what I remember to help me to "hack" the text.
I have a bilingual book with short stories (always one page in Portuguese and the other in German) so that's pretty nice, if I don't get it at all I can just check the German sentence on the other page.
For music, I don't think I'll ever really get into that. I am really into music and also music with Portuguese lyrics but my English is very good (I can understand people talking in English, watch movies, listen to podcasts - all no problem) but I still can't understand any English in music heh
>Google Translator ONLY as dictionary
I use dict.leo.org for words and terms, I think it's better than google, it gives more options (and translators shouldn't be used for sentences anyway, I'm sure you agree)
Nunca vou desistir, prometo!

Anonymous 11/09/14 (Sun) 02:14:26 No.170

>>155
>book
Nice, bilingual books work wonder for that. As long as not poetry.

>music
It's a bit harder to understand, indeed, but that's why I suggest listening it with the lyrics in hand.

>dic
It's way nicer than GT, thanks for the suggestion.

Anonymous 05/18/15 (Mon) 15:29:12 No.895

>>37

I'm learning Japanese, what i do is watch some japanese youtubers, and also i have NHK in Japanese in the tv so i can watch the news, children's programs, etc, i also visit japanese pages sometimes and tried to read, or get some japanese friends on facebook and read what they post on their walls, or their photos

>>39

that's what i was thinking yesterday, when i start to learn another language, i'll practica reading or watching children's things, it's easier and entertaining, i think that keeps you motivated to learn

>>126

Listening to music is very helpful too, sometimes is a little difficult to understand what they say, but it can help if you want to know how can far are you on your learning way

Anonymous 05/18/15 (Mon) 19:54:06 No.897

Personal text and voice chats on sharedtalk.com

Seriously, in the voice chat lobby there are over 20 Chinese/Brazilians/Hispanics/Arabs respectively, during their respective power hours and many other foreigners from all kinds of countries that are starving for anyone who is able to speak mediocre English but also other languages.

I just checked the text chat lobby and there are up to 30 people offering their native tongues in exchange for German, OP.

In my personal experience, you'll only talk to most people one time but sometimes you can establish a longer lasting connection. Many people switch to skype because the voice quality isn't that good, though.

Be aware of the time zones and just sign up.

I prefer personal chats over the group chats.

Anonymous 05/18/15 (Mon) 20:04:43 No.898

Addendum:

OP, are you a college student or livng in a city with a university?

Many universities that offer foreign language courses also organize meet-ups(mostly at the beginning of the semester though) of international students and students of the host country for personal language exchanges(tandem).

There sometimes are bulletin boards where International students look for language partners.

In my experience the International students greatly outnumber the stundents of thte host country during these events, so give it a shot, even if you are an external person.

Anonymous 05/18/15 (Mon) 22:24:09 No.900

I'm consuming media in that language. Mainly television, movies and games.

This of course becomes harder the less spread that language in the world is.

Anonymous 07/05/15 (Sun) 00:15:35 No.991

>OP has it easy with romance languages there are almost no homophones.

>what is french

Anonymous 08/01/15 (Sat) 10:07:27 No.1027

>>155

For English music you must fully understand the singer's base accent because speaking as close to your accent as possible is the most natural and therefore easy way to speak.

For instance, as an American southerner, I can easily understand Deathgrips lyrics since negro-american is basically a foul version of mid-southern accents, but I guarantee you that not one bonglander can understand Deathgrips upon first listening. A humorous example of this was the bonglander reaction to Jimi Hendrix's Purple Haze.

I don't even know any other languages, but I do know that English is among the weirdest Latin languages; mostly because it is very close to its original pre-Latin languages, yet uses grammar from many Latin languages. The hardest parts to learn of the language are very obvious: grammar. It occupies a space in which it's very structured but not entirely necessary to be correct. When writing Prose you have to balance between readability and grammar; more precisely, grammar is a tool rather than a rule. I don't know about other languages, but that seems a little unusual to me. That, along with using many non-Latin words seems to me to constitute most of the challenge of learning English.

I would very much like to hear how difficult it is to learn another romance language from a romance language. Seems like it would be relatively easy.

I might make an effort to learn French by reading French and cross-referencing with a dictionary. Is that a good method? As an aside: What languages are difficult to learn by this method?

Anonymous 08/01/15 (Sat) 10:49:12 No.1029

>>1027

>I do know that English is among the weirdest Latin languages

English is not a Romance language, despite the heavy French influence.

>I would very much like to hear how difficult it is to learn another romance language from a romance language. Seems like it would be relatively easy.

I can partially confirm, since my native language is Italian, and having superficially studied French for three years I can read and understand most texts, needing only a dictionary for some exceedingly common/uncommon words. Same with Spanish (that I haven't even ever studied). I can't speak either of these, but my listening comprehension is rather good considering my utter lack of practice.

So I'd say that for a basic understanding of other Romance languages, we have an easy time (of course the closer, the better: Spanish>French>>>Romanian for me). Becoming proficient is another matter, though, and I wouldn't know.

Anonymous 08/11/15 (Tue) 16:35:55 No.1036

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I just found out that they're going to shut down sharedtalk.com by the end of this month.

Fuck Rosetta Stone and this trend to social networking.

I just want a language learning website with chat rooms and a (voice) chat lobby where you can jumpstart casual conversations without the whole International meeting place and dating spam bullshit.

Seems like I have to use Hello Talk only from now on.

Anonymous 08/13/15 (Thu) 17:40:03 No.1038

>>1036

>Hello Talk

Is that still only an app?

>they're going to shut down sharedtalk.com

Really? I can't find anything on that.

Anybody tried busuu?

Anonymous 08/14/15 (Fri) 01:45:43 No.1039

>>1038

>Is that still only an app?

Yes but I don't mind.

I think that it kinda adds to the availability of people. Being able to chat during interim time is nice, It's great for this purpose. I like the transcription and translation tools as well.

>Really? I can't find anything on that.

It came up in a chatroom I was in.

Supposedly, they sent an e-mail to users but I have an account and I never received one.

One user posted a screenshot and I later went to other chatrooms and they confirmed it.

I personally preferred some kind of official announcement on the website as well.

I actually hope that I was trolled because it'd mean that sharedtalk would continue its existence.

>Anybody tried busuu?

Nope.

Anonymous 08/15/15 (Sat) 09:45:46 No.1046

>>1039

Apps are useful for that but it would be nice if it wasn't only an app.

>I actually hope that I was trolled because it'd mean that sharedtalk would continue its existence.

Well, I had another look around but it seems a lot of people got the e-mail that it's closing end of August. Not sure why they haven't made a proper announcement.

Anonymous 08/15/15 (Sat) 13:23:31 No.1048

>>1046

Fuark.

I wonder what the almighty Laoshu will do from now one. Pretty much a big part of his own learning method depends a lot on this website.

As far as I know he's already using Hello Talk more frequently, too, though.

Alright, farewell sharedtalk. You may have looked a bit dated and lacked a few features but I'll miss you.

So, is there anyone with corporate and programming experience who wants to kickstart a new website with a similar chat system?

Anonymous 08/16/15 (Sun) 09:47:30 No.1051

>>1048

http://conversationexchange.com/

https://www.gospeaky.com/

http://www.italki.com/

http://polyglotclub.com/

Anonymous 08/16/15 (Sun) 20:08:51 No.1053

>>1051

Some interesting sites. Thanks.

Anonymous 08/25/15 (Tue) 12:42:17 No.1106

Fuck yeah.

It looks like the original founder of sharedtalk who isn't affiliated with Rosetta Stone anymore plans to launch another language exchange website.

http://www.quora.com/Why-is-Sharedtalk-closing-down

He recognizes that livemocha is vastly different from sharedtalk. The 'modern design' part got me a bit worried but from the images it looks like it's going to have a similar chat system.

http://talk.considerate.ly/

Anonymous 08/25/15 (Tue) 17:51:11 No.1107

>>1106

Thanks for the good news. Is the newsletter working for you?

Anonymous 08/28/15 (Fri) 00:11:38 No.1109

>>1107

No email so far.