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I have no intention of trying to refute your beliefs, but am genuinely curious and would like to have serious discussions as a non Mormon that I'd rather have with a 8chan assborg than with anyone else like a missionary. Is that acceptable? If not that's fine, but it's not really being missionary.

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>The other girl is gonna be 31 soon.

Meh, too old. But yeah, you still have a chance with the young girl, I predict it'll go smoothly. And like you're posting, you've got a lot of chances with other women. Just remember to be able to show off that wealth subtly, not like a nouveau-riche tacky dude.


I also quit smoking like that. Well, I haven't smoked in a week so I guess that's more time than I ever have this entire year.

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I was born Mormon, raised Mormon, in a small town in Utah, I am a Daughter of Utah Pioneers, I am married to a white man, and I am black. It’s nothing new, I’m older, this happened in the 80s. Not part of any new agenda, just the consequence of the world condensing as a product of increased communication and access to travel. So, I am wondering what the fuck is wrong with you scum here? why your bigotry hasn’t been addressed by anyone in your respective congregations, and how you can honestly call yourselves Mormons when you espouse and disseminate this vile drivel. This is all rhetorical, I’m sure I’ll be banned before I can see any responses (not that I’m expecting more than angry, spastic, racist trolling).


0/10 troll, but possibly true.

In case you're a nigger, how did you even find this board, what's a nigger even doing browsing an obscure 8chan board.

If you are, it doesn't matter if you're a "Daughter of Utah Pioneers", you have the mark of Cain, and that's what matters. You can fuck off to an historical black protestant church.


I’m black. You can use that word if you want, it’s your own salvation you’re gambling. I know 8chan. Black people use 8chan, we have been using the chans for years. I found /lds/ yesterday, perused, and found a lot of cheap, caricatured racism. I just don’t see the point. Maybe your grandparents honestly believed we “bore the mark of Cain”, maybe your parents are just poor white trash, I don’t know. I’d leave this with some platitude about hoping you get counseling or something, but I don’t.



I don't need counseling. You're a nigger, you're subhuman, you place a burden on other countries and your race has never managed to create stable civilizations without warring against each other. You're only 13% of the American population and commit 52% of the crimes.

That you're cursed is right in Scripture, Pearl of Great Price. It's canon. Brigham Young would have blood atone you, and I don't recognize Official Declaration #2.

Society looks down upon your race but doesn't say anything, nobody likes black people. They're a burden in interpersonal relationships, that they're terrible at due to violence.

I'm not gambling my salvation for pointing out pure facts. And if you assume my parents are pure white trash maybe you are gambling your salvation for something you aren't sure about. I'm 100% sure you're a nigger.

You need counseling to stop being resentful thinking my parents are white trash, because I'm not even white, I'm half white, but I don't bear the mark of Cain.

You'll be gone either way soon, filthy Ape. Also, black shit princess of Deseret, your name is Mormon? I thought that was a male name, I don't know if niggers also confuse names in birth certificates.


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Honest question from a non-member, doesn’t Daniel 7:13-14 directly contradict Restoration-theory?


Nvm. Just realized it’s talking about the Second Coming. I am still puzzled as to why God would give Israel their long-awaited kingdom and then take it away for 2000 years.

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25 And it came to pass that Jesus blessed them as they did pray unto him; and his acountenance did smile upon them, and the light of his countenance did shine upon them, and behold they were as white as the countenance and also the garments of Jesus; and behold the whiteness thereof did exceed all the whiteness, yea, even there could be nothing upon earth so white as the whiteness thereof.

Definitely divinely inspired, the true word of God.

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WARNING: Whiny bullshit ahead.

So I was born and raise LDS, lived a (relatively) normal life, but became addicted to porn during puberty because my parents never game me "the talk" so I decided to learn about it on the internet like a retard. I've struggled with it and could go months without fapping sometimes but I always relapsed. Then I decided to "quit for good" and go on a mission when I hit 19. I went to the temple and did everything right, I talked to a counselor when I got to the MTC and he decided to send me home because my depression/anxiety was too bad. AFTER being sent home honorably my parents decided that it was time they told me that my family has a large history of major depression and bipolar disorders. I got home and did my best to keep going to singles ward and stuff, but sure enough I ended up slipping up and getting stuck on porn again. It's been just over 3 years now and I've stopped going to church and I'm starting to lose all faith. There are too many things I disagree with the church on now race, politics, etc. and I'm honestly scared to go back. I know sexual sins are a big deal, especially after having gone through the temple, and I don't want to get excommunicated and stuff. However I still have this nagging feeling that I need to go to church, but I just don't see why. It's clear to me that God has no great love for me with all the bullshit I've had to go through not just depression but other stuff I'd rather not get into.

So, now that I've given you basically my life story I'm just wondering, what do I do? I hate going to church, introducing myself, and having everyone ask "where did you go on a mission" only to have to tell them that I got sent home because I "got sick" in the MTC, and have them instantly think less of me. I don't want to have to go through the excommunication process, and I don't want to be "that guy" that sits alone and has issues. So what do I do? I'm kinda at a complete loss of what direction I should be heading here.

I'm fully aware I sound like an emo teenage faggot, but I figured if there's anywhere I could get some advice for this stuff it would be here. Sorry.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>Wanking it to porn is a mortal sin.

Um… anon…

You need to get over that idea. Half the guys in church are exactly like you, and they all take the sacrament, they just don't hate themselves as much as you hate yourself.

Stop it.

Frankly, I think the entire church would do well to ease up on that sh*t. There are negative aspects to porn, sure… specifically the church stigma that makes you feel so worthless that you can't function.

It could be much worse. You could be getting STDs from hookers in a back alley.

Fortunately for me, I had a good bishop that told me to go ahead and keep taking the sacrament during the repentance process, since the whole point of the sacrament is repentance.

Your results may vary, but remember that Porn is an addiction. There's a reason it's hard to quit, and it's easy to fall back into the habit.

It may have been your fault that you got hooked in the first place. You've repented for that.

It's not your fault that it's hard to quit, you don't have to repent for that. Just repent for what you did, and get back up and try again.



>I was under the assumption that you weren't supposed to take the sacrament if you were guilty of mortal sin. Which sexual immorality after the temple is.

The gospel doesn't have a concept of "mortal sins". And as other posters have said, porn and masturbation is not as big of a deal as you're making it. It's bad, sure, but there is no use getting bent out of shape over it. My recommendation would be a) go talk to your bishop ASAP; and b) keep taking the sacrament until/unless your bishop tells you to stop.

Remember that repentance is not about sadism or pain for its own sake, it's about improving ourselves permanently. To the extent that process will include exclusion from some ordinances, remain optimistic and understand that it's a growing and improvement experience. Many people don't realize what they're missing until they go without.


Dang I am Baptist but definitely give so much respect, I was trying to give a paragraph of advice to someone addicted to porn and you blew mine away.>>2127



This. So much this.

Brother, don't let Satan convince you that you are unworthy to participate in the gospel because of porn. Porn addiction, in itself, is not an excommunicatory sin. The problem with porn is it urges us towards other sins. It's kinda like how marijuana is a lot of people's gateway drug. Satan can't get us to go and fornicate or adulter, so he tries porn first, and it's way harder to avoid. You're obviously trying so hard to do the right thing, despite your struggles and feeling so alone.

I empathize with you, I have gone through that and go through it again from time to time. Even though I read scriptures and pray every night, I still can't fully stay away from porn. I go about a week at the longest before I get too horny (blame it on being married twice before and being sort of a sex addict). That's not an excuse for me to do it, I try to get away from it as much as possible and to make sure I repent fully of it.

Keep taking the sacrament. It really helps to renew your baptismal covenants. Most of the time, when I'm at my best, I've taken the sacrament that week and studied/prayed every night. I can promise that doing those small, simple things, even if you feel nothing at first, will bring you peace and joy that porn can't hope to provide. The more you feel that, the less porn can get to you. Stay encouraged, brother; I love you, but more importantly our Savior loves you and felt your pain. His Atonement paid the price for you, you don't have to bear the weight of this.

I'm really sorry that sex education is so poor in the church, since so many suffer from lack of information. If you're concerned about masturbation, remember that prophets have avoided saying much, if anything, about it in more recent messages. It's certainly not stigmatized the way it used to be. Jack off if you need to, try to avoid using porn if you can, but if you can't, remember it's an addiction and most people are spending their whole lives working to recover from it. Forgive yourself and try again.


I am not LDS, Went to christian school from 1-10th grade, kinda fell off after that , but, in this tiny little communtiy where i just bought a home, literally everyone is mormon. Total population is 91 and I am pretty sure 85 of them are LDS.

Anyways, basically i just was wondering WHY the hell would your own family basically wait until you are at rock bottom with depression to chime in and be like "oh yeah, your family is screwed up, it isnt your fault , eveyrone in the family is depressed and always has been, it is hereditary.

Alot of people go through alot of shit, but when family chimes in with little thoughts like this, it seems to put ya in a rutt that basically is much much harder to escape from then when you didnt know that lil tidbit of useless information (it couldnt help you to know this in any way shape or form) .

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i've got a folder of memes from a lds server i'm in on discord, anyone else got some good ones?

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Dumping memes, including a bunch of Deznat stuff.


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So there i was minding my own business reading the popol vuh. I came across something interesting and was wondering is this your people?


"This is the beginning of the record of the coming of the Mexicans from the place called Aztlan. It is by means of the water that they came this way, being four tribes, and in coming they rowed in boats. They built their huts on

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piles at the place called the Grotto of Quinevayan. It is there from which the eight tribes issued. The first tribe is that of the Huexotzincos, the second tribe the Chalcas, the third the Xochimilcas, the fourth the Cuitlavacas, the fifth the Mallinalcas, the sixth the Chicimecas, the seventh the Tepanecas, the eighth the Matlatzincas. It is there where they were founded in Colhuacan. They were the colonists of it since they landed there, coming from Aztlan. . . . It is there that they soon afterwards went away from, carrying before them the god[1] Vitzillopochtli, which they had adopted for their god. . . . They came out of four places, when they went forward travelling this way. . . . There the eight tribes opened up our road by water."


I will answer this in a while, as it's interesting and as it has to do with my fellow countrymen. I'm quite dizzy right now so I can't.



Why are you dizzy? 🏄



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I know Salt Lake LDS no longer practices it, but DC 132 are the conditions for a man to practice polygamy, they are as follows:

1-First wife must give her consent.

2-Second wife must be a virgin?

3-No married women

4-To multiply and replenish the earth and bear the souls of men.

According to Mormon doctrine if a person does not follow these conditions as God said then that person is committing adultery. Did Joseph break it? I am curious.


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I think Joseph didn't break it, I'm not quite sure, I'd have to read Saints cause it's stripped off from political correctness. If it's on D&C he probably practiced it to the letter unless the D&C is now corrected according to modern revelation regarding polygamy, which is addressed in Official Declaration #1.

Not gonna lie, some Mormons still practice it in secret, and they're not fLDS. Little known fact. About Declaration #2, hex, for example doesn't accept it. I don't have anything against blacks but we're one of the less black churches for a reason, blacks hate the Church due to what was "done to them" and due to the inherent whiteness of the Church.

That's why they go to Historically Black Protestant (HBP) Churches to go away from whitey or they convert to Islam. Weird how it works.

In our Quorum of the Seventy we have only two niggers, apparently.

Just a bit of info on the Declarations. There's only been two of them iirc



Clear attempt to bait here. D&C 132 is not necessarily all-encompassing, nor is it necessarily absolute. Like the rest of the canon, the principles it teaches are correct (and the mainstream Church does *not* reject them), but the application varies on time, place, and circumstances. That's the reason we have a prophet.



Hey, I'm actually Moroni


yeah probably tbh but who cares

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How was 2 hour church today brothers and sisters?

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I actually lost my manual that was given to me a week ago, I have no idea where it is anymore.




And you are somehow better for talking to me like this? Also, where do you think you are?



I didn't know you had your own board. This is cool and all, but don't you miss spicing up /b/ like the good ol' days



>but don't you miss spicing up /b/ like the good ol' days

I'm still on /b/



just between you and me, i'm the only mod that has been online in the past 2 days

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Sorry to make a new thread for this but already typed and not going to just let it zap away :P


The gospel is adapted to the "weakest of all those who may be called Saints". If the Lord doesn't feel something is important enough to call out through his prophet – for any reason, whether you want to attribute it to the immorality of the Saints generally or whatever – then it's not worth getting bent out of shape over.

The Church is far and away the best moral force on this planet. You are foolish to explode something like this into a major stumbling block.

There are a lot of things that aren't good that the Church doesn't and can't try to stop. The goal is not to specifically decry everything that's counter-productive, it's to be a force for righteousness and a vessel for the Lord's authority sufficient to prepare the earth for the Second Coming. It is not meet that man should be instructed in all things.

Worry about yourself more and others less. You are doing massive damage to your life by pretending like you know better.

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the church sucking off niggers and muslims is why I left during the 2016 primaries. the whole "be kind to immigrants" push by all the Relief Societies and allowing muslims to use the chapels to pray at the same time was obviously a slap at Trump. the Bishopric even agreed but asked me to stay but I felt leaving was a better protest.

but with this board, I'm hoping the anons find a way to bring the church to repentance, I don't know how but I have faith

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The problem is simple to fix, white men need to step up and be better. No sane white woman wants a nigger, but if they are left without options because our race is too weak to do what we need to do then this is what happens. I see a huge problem within the church, and it is the confidence of our white men. We are not asking enough girls on dates, we are not trying hard enough. Instead we do stupid shit like watch netflix and play video games. You could invite all the niggers you want to church, but none of the women would look their way if our men would do what they are supposed to. White men are superior in every conceivable way, and it isn't a contest.

Our men need to wake up and stop with the defeatist mindset of "if I don't find love in this life I'll get it in the afterlife". It's the biggest load of shit I've ever heard. Purge this mindset out of your mind if you believe this. It is completely unacceptable for this thought to even cross your mind even if it may be true. It is not your job to determine what you get in the afterlife, it is your job to guarantee that you get what you need in this life and secure it for eternity.




I'm in the same boat, gents. My wife and I don't have kids yet, we just got married, and we have discussed it. We enjoy the social aspects of Church but we don't see the point of remaining if it doesn't strengthen its members morality as well.


This is all well and good but it doesn't change individual issues, ie, there will always be at least one racemixer. My wife and I are going to have children within the next year or two, we just bought a house, and we just don't see ourselves potentially allowing our children into an atmosphere where this will be treated as 'normal'. It's a bad example to set, and much worse in Church.



>there will always be at least one racemixer

Unless we kill every shitskin this will be true no matter where you go. Even your children could end up race mixers, and it's on you as a parent to prevent that. It doesn't matter where in the world you raise them unless you raise them in an ethnostate they will be surrounded by other degenerates that can influence them in the wrong way.

The church provides the correct values, but they do it without emphasis on race because of how the times have shifted. It's unfortunate, but the only people to blame for this are our own. We let it get this way by being passive for so long. Parents need to teach their kids not to racemix, and boys need to be raised to be men instead of the pathetic weaklings they are raised to be now. We have such a lack of leadership because people are so afraid to say what needs to be said and do what needs to be done and want to blame everything but themselves for it.

The church is a framework for accomplishing what we need to accomplish, that framework can be used for good(creation of more whites) or for evil(creation of mixed race mongrels). It's up to us to use it the way it should be used and teach our children the correct way to use it.

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No offense to anyone but if this thread is going to become an anti-Mormon thread full of defeatist faggotry, I'm just gonna purge everyone in it and lock it. Let's be constructive about how we can improve things. If your answer is to leave, then you aren't needed here because you are part of the problem rather than the solution.


You yourself are becoming a defeatist, though. Sometimes leaving is what the church sees. See that tithe money go out the door and then they wanna worry about what went wrong.

Let's be realistic. What solutions are there? You can tell us to better ourselves and that's fair, but bettering ourselves doesn't make the bishops repent the church

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I know the church has 'disavowed' our religion's

past beliefs despite being proposed as fact from Joseph onward and even after the lifting of the priesthood ban. Most members of the general authority have remained entirely quite on their opinions regarding racial theology while some have voiced their opinions but their opinions being "lol just forgetta about! they were just racist".

I personally am of believer of LDS racial theology. I'm actually a technical convert but with wholely LDS heritage and among the reasons I converted was that the traditional LDS view regarding the races of humanity made extreme sense to me.

This doesn't mean of course I dislike non-white LDS, I just view them the way our parents and grandparents did. I think races should remain seperate and that all cultures/ethnic groups have the right to remain distinct. The Japanese for example have as much of a right to remain ethnically and culturally Japanese as the Quebecois.

I think the 'Ethnic Mormon' (Deseret region mormons of typical north-western eurpean pioneer/early convert descent) have that right too. Of course we can have visitors and non-white LDS making 'pilgramiges' to our land, I just want our land to remain how it was until diversity began to be foisted upon the American populace during the 60s.

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Nonwhite immigration is God's punishment for our sins



Ban all the niggers why does the church need nog problems.



Thankfully we have two nogs for every hundred people.



speak for yourself dude it sucks in S FL. I had to leave the church and I blatantly told the Bishop I'm not returning unless they repent of niggerdry, spicness and sucking off the muslims


can we meme fixing the church?

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I've been meaning to start a thread like this!

the entire 2018 mutual album is so good, I could listen to the male version of Peace in Christ forever probably.

technically not LDS music, but my favorite religious song is oceans by Hillsong untited (especially since my favorite New testament story is Simon Peter walking out on the water toward Christ).

Tenth Avenue North also does some pretty good music, but it's more pop/mainstream sounding.


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This song has been stuck in my head some days ago.


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