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 No.3

post about anything here

 No.3021

>>3020

Therefore, I testify that our Church is more fully closer to the truth than most Christian denominations.


 No.3022

>>3019

I've never understood why all the born again Christians I've met cling to the trinity so hard. It doesn't make sense to me that they reject Catholicism so hard yet use one of their most core fundamentals that can clearly be clasified as man made as a basic belief that they won't budge on.


 No.3023

>>3012

Hope all goes well anon! I'll be praying for you and the missionaries in your area! Also, if you want the missionaries to have a heart attack when they meet you, just start digging into the book of mormon. So few people we teach actually read the freaking book which drives all of us mad but when someone actually does its the greatest thing in the world.


 No.3024

>>3022

I know right? It's as if they're lost in Luther's doctrine as being impossible to scrutinize. All churches that are Nontrinitarian are called Non-Christian, which I find bizarre (not gonna lie, some of these churches are cults, like Iglesia Ni Cristo). The more I read about our theology the more correct I find it according to the events in Christ's life and the times post-resurrection

>>3017

Hope all goes well today! I'll be praying for you brother in Christ.


 No.3025

Guys, also pray for me cause I'll be leaving about three Books of Mormon in the book exchange at my university (these won't require book swapping). Hopefully more people can be curious about the Restored Gospel and get more information about our Church.


 No.3026

Hey, I have a tough question.

>be about 20

>get diagnosed with OCD

>start various cocktails of pills

>went through about 13-16 different kinds, that I can remember

>relatively certain at least one of them screwed me up for good by giving me a mood disorder

>smoked weed a couple times with friends in high school

>desperate, running out of options

>try smoking marijuana

>suddenly, I can put my irrational OCD thoughts into proper perspective

>anxiety dissipates, even when I'm not smoking

>suddenly want to exercise

>suddenly want to eat a bit healthier

>suddenly want to study and gain skills for work

>get a promotion

>still smoke a small quantity every day

>don't need any pills anymore

I'm interested in converting, but small amounts of this stuff definitely have medicinal/curative effects on me. I know Utah just voted to allow medical, would the church be okay with smoking medicinally for OCD?


 No.3027

Sorry I kinda disappeared for a few days. Overtime at work and stuff. I'm kinda behind on the thread.

>>3010

>Oh actually we're practicing a choir song now that I remember.

I join in my ward's choir whenever they practice, I dunno if I'm any good but it's a good way to talk to girls.

>>3011

It's alright.


 No.3028

>>3026

>would the church be okay with smoking medicinally for OCD?

If I were going to do it for medicinal purpose I'd avoid smoking and find another method. If you could get a prescription that would be a good way to go. I dunno much about doing that though. But as far as other methods either edible or vaporizing would be better than smoking. There are vaporizers that work well. There are 2 types: the volcano airbag method, or direct draw. I liked direct draw better. I went with a silver surfer vaporizer.

As far as the church goes I'd assume if it's prescription you are fine, but otherwise I dunno.


 No.3029

>>3028

I want to move to Utah once my conversion is complete. I'm sure I can convince a doctor to give me a prescription there.


 No.3030

>>3026

I'm pretty sure they wouldn't mind as it is helping you and it's not a vice. Hex is right with a different method, though.

I personally vaporize pure nicotine because it also has a medicinal effect on a neurological issue I have, relaxing my CNS. If it's for medical purposes, there's no problem with the violation of the Word of Wisdom, as far as I'm concerned.

In my personal following of the Word of Wisdom, my only misuse is caffeine.

I don't drink or smoke recreationally or use any drugs.

>>3027

I'm close to getting a girl's number. She disappeared last Sunday. I however got a girl's number at college and she looks really wholesome and not contaminated by cultural marxism because it's hardly here.


 No.3031

>>3030

However, of course she's not answering. Low interest level so far.


 No.3032

Converting anon here. Met with the missionaries today. They were very nice and helpful in answering my questions, and we're going to start meeting biweekly, as well as me going to church on Sunday. I received a copy of the Book of Mormon, which I will be reading tomorrow after I wake up.

Got a great feeling about this! I'm shooting for baptism on the 8th of next month.


 No.3033

>>3026

Here's what I've gathered from giving baptismal interviews and talking to my mission presidency about Marijuana use. For baptism, you need to drop it for 3 weeks even in medical capacity since its still considered an illegal drug nationally. Now, if you have a prescription and your bishop understands your situation and that you are properly using that herb in its time and season as stated in D&C89, i see no issue in getting a temple recommend or acting with priesthood authority while using Marijuana for medical purposes.


 No.3034

The Marijuana issue isn't an issue of the word of wisdom like people think. It's really an issue of honoring and obeying the law which is really confused right now with conflicting state laws and national laws. While using it nonmedicinically woupd be a sin, using it as you would tobacco for bruises is a good use of it and proper in God's eyes. Its just down to the question of if it is legal or not which is still in limbo.


 No.3035

>>3032

>Met with the missionaries today. They were very nice and helpful in answering my questions, and we're going to start meeting biweekly, as well as me going to church on Sunday

That's awesome. Sister missionaries or elders?

>I received a copy of the Book of Mormon, which I will be reading tomorrow after I wake up

It's a great read, and I'm sure the missionaries will be assigning some reading as you go through their lessons as well. If you are like me you will be captivated by the story and fly through the assigned reading and much more.

>Got a great feeling about this! I'm shooting for baptism on the 8th of next month.

That's exciting. I'm really excited to hear about your conversion process as you go through the lessons. It changed my life, and I hope it does the same for you.


 No.3036

>>3030

>I'm close to getting a girl's number.

Nice, I'm going to a thing on Saturday where I'll be meeting a few girls. It's an activity where they set you up with different dates throughout the night. Should be interesting if nothing else.


 No.3037

>>3036

I think I almost got mugged.

I stopped in a parking lot very late at night to get directions on my phone and this woman walks up to my window with a sob story about surgery on her foot and can't walk much further but needs a ride just a few blocks away.

I was super sketched out and tell her I don't feel comfortable with her in my car. Eventually she goes away, and walks perfectly fine into a car waiting on the other side of the parking lot with a guy and they drive away.

Why are people such garbage. I want to be a kind person, but when being nice is such a risk it kills me inside.

Crimes that hurt social trust should be severely punished.


 No.3038

>>3036

>It's an activity where they set you up with different dates throughout the night. Should be interesting if nothing else.

sounds very interesting tbh. sort of like the mormon version of speed dating?


 No.3039

>>3035

>Sister missionaries or elders?

They were three late teens/early 20's guys. Very well-mannered.


 No.3040

>>3032

You're on your way now! Some of the best books in the BoM, which I recommend you read in order, are probably 1st and 2nd Nephi, and also a really short book which I believe only has one chapter. The rest is really good cause it's all about battles and the power of God, conversion, and the gifts of the Holy Ghost revealing themselves through battle. And obviously, the messages of Christ

Y'all boys pumped up for tomorrow


 No.3041

Also, I finally receive the Aaronic Priesthood tomorrow, and there seems to be a Conference tomorrow that I hadn't heard about


 No.3042

>>3037

I wouldn't have let her in either tbh. I carry a gun and I still won't ever trust a random person in my car. I hear people tell stories at church about stopping to help people stranded on the side of the road. I won't ever do that either. May seem not so Christlike, but I read an article about a guy that stopped to help a bunch of niggers get their car out of a ditch. They robbed him, murdered him, and left him in the same ditch they were stuck in.

>>3038

>sort of like the mormon version of speed dating?

What ended up happening is they paired us up for dinner, then when dessert came out they switched us to another table. My first table was better than my second table, but I really like the concept of that activity. I got to know some nice people, and I had fun. We spent an hour at each table. Another interesting thing about it was that if things ever got quiet or awkward there was a jar full of corny jokes and pick up lines folded up on little slips of paper. So instantly you could liven things up again by pulling one from the jar and reading it.

The part I didn't like was that there was a dance at the end, but even that ended up somewhat in my favor. A girl from my ward danced with some guy, and apparently it was super awkward so she came and sat with me. We ended up talking andreading corny pickup lines to each other for about a half hour, and then a group of people told us we needed to get on the dance floor. Me and this girl were content to just sit there talking and reading funny pickup lines to each other the rest of the night, but eventually they got her to give in. I got a slow dance out of it though. It's been a long time since I've asked a girl to dance with me.

My friend was so excited when I told him that she came to sit with me because of that awkward guy. He was like "you know what that means right? she felt awkward around that guy, so she came to sit with you because you aren't awkward." A very good point. I hadn't ever spent time with this girl before, or ever considered her as one I'd potentially spend time with. She has a couple flaws. She's an artsy type so she does the short hair thing. She also has a chipped front tooth. When I slow danced with her though, I was so lost in her eyes that none of that mattered. She has a very pretty face. She is 18 though. That's a huge age gap.

I'm still trying to process what I feel right now, but I wanna get to know her more.

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 No.3043

>>3039

That's cool. I have a soft spot in my heart for sister missionaries. For me, I needed sister missionaries so it couldn't have been more perfect when they knocked on my door. The message wouldn't have struck me as well had it come from elders, and I know that it is no coincidence that the message came from exactly the types of girls I needed to hear it from.

My entire time with missionaries has been with sister missionaries, so I always have to ask when someone meets up with the missionaries. Of course the gospel is the same no matter who teaches it, but I think the people we meet in life we meet for a reason.


 No.3044

>>3041

>Also, I finally receive the Aaronic Priesthood tomorrow,

That's awesome.

>and there seems to be a Conference tomorrow that I hadn't heard about

Stake conference?

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 No.3045

>>3042

>She is 18 though. That's a huge age gap.

At my age it is. At your age it's not so bad. I wouldn't worry about it too much. Just check if she's reasonably mature and has a good head on her shoulders.

>I'm still trying to process what I feel right now, but I wanna get to know her more.

Best of luck.


 No.3046

What do you do if you're thinking of converting because you really like the church's way of life, but some of the scripture comes off as a bit farfetched/absurd to you?


 No.3047

>>3046

I'm not a mormon, but if it were me, I'd try to decipher what the hidden meaning of that particular passage.


 No.3048

>>3046

>>3047

This is a good thing to think about. Scripture is more than just taking the words exactly as they are written. Why do you think certain groups develop certain characteristics that are desirable just from reading these scriptures that come off as absurd to you? Could it be because of the deeper meaning? What can I take from these messages? Consider this scripture from the Bible:

Matthew 7:15-20

>15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

>16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

>17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

>18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

>19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

>20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

I'll leave that with you for you to ponder.

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 No.3049

>>3046

Tbh, if you already have a strong Christian background I don't see why anything we teach can be very far fetched. I mean we all Christians believe that because some random Jew died 2000 years ago we will get new bodies after we die. Thats pretty retarded and far fetched on the surface when you strip context and scripture. What seems hard to grasp for you about our faith?


 No.3050

>>3049

What he says is pretty much my thought on the matter, that's what I said on /b/ regarding the subjectivity and context of all religions from a basic standpoint.

It's a leap of faith in this case with the Book of Mormon and even the Bible.


 No.3051

Have a blessed day brothers. Missionaries, may the Spirit guide you in sharing the Restored Gospel. We need more saved people.


 No.3053

Having Home Evening tonight, then Bible study


 No.3054

Seems there was some slight missionary drama that I found out about after Home Evening. Some missionary that just left was pretty much a snake, hated our race in secret. Also, always chewed loudly in front of our recent missionary from Utah and the missionary from Mexico (his original companion was the Hidalgo missionary, the new Elder just came here about three weeks ago). He just took his pass to go on to another ward/district in the city and left.

So that's "choosing the right" being an asshole to his own companions and hating the race you're ministering to. What a fuckface. Thank God that my baptism and confirmation was done by the Hidalgo missionary and the recent Utah missionary, respectively. Didn't want my baptism to be done by a snake, I chose correctly.


 No.3055

>>3054

Didn't even say goodbye to his American companion and all the other American elders agree that "that was quite messed up" from his part


 No.3056

>>3055

Pretty petty drama but it's a strange trait you find in a missionary that apparently seemed to have a positive view of us from the start. Seems he just wants his mission to be over. Meh, everyone has their quirks I suppose.


 No.3057

Welp, seems I got someone interested in the Church. In real life. We gettin there boyos, pray for me to guide my friend correctly so he can share the happiness I feel in the Church of Jesus Christ and receive the gospel.


 No.3058

>>3057

>Welp, seems I got someone interested in the Church. In real life

Nice work. All I've had happen recently in real life is my faggot co-workers argue with me in favor of white privilege being a real thing. They cited some statistics about niggers being more likely to get harsher sentences for the same crime. They cited a liberal newspaper, I told them it was liberal propaganda. They cite a cultural marxist university study, I thumb through it for a few seconds and find that 10% of their data was pulled straight out of their ass for manipulation of the study. Of course I wasn't gonna read the rest after that.

I mention this and the faggot leaves the room. The other faggot sits around talking about how statistics come from numbers therefor they can't be made up. How is my race so pathetically uneducated on jewish tricks? Statistics are about the most jewish trick imaginable. All you have to do to make a statistic favor you is leave some data out that favors the other side. Then you write a 25 page study on it and the media will report on the title of your study instead of the content. Every statistic has variables, these variables determine what the statistic will show.

Later I came up with a normalfaggot argument to retaliate against the "all statistics are real goy" argument, but I didn't bother to use it. I'm sure these NPCs would have fallen back to some other programmed white guilt bullshit they have been trained to regurgitate all over anyone that tries to break their programming. But here is my argument anyway. These guys are niggerball fans so say I'm a scientist studying niggerball, and I determine that the X niggerball team is the best niggerball team. I determine this using the numbers that the niggerball league puts out on their own website.

I write a long scientific analysis backing my claim up, title it "Niggerball team X is the best niggerball team in the niggerball league" and the media reports on it. Is my claim correct because of this? Oh it is? Well I left out the part where the numbers I used were the numbers of losses, the number of penalties, and other stats that make them the worst in the league. The thing is they are #1 in these stats therefor I wasn't lying. They are the #1 team when taking into account only these specific variables, and leaving out all other variables. And that is why statistics are jewish bullshit.

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 No.3059

>>3058

>How is my race so pathetically uneducated on jewish tricks?

Liberal students are catching up with this here. Seems that this is due to the internet and due to Jewish western ideas.

Statistics, even when not based on the niggerball argument, are basically torturing the shit out of the data until the result you want to put out confirms what you want to prove for whatever reason.

About that white privilege thing, we're now having the "heterosexual privilege" in our university's Facebook group discussion. These ideas are catching on but most people look at them and laugh because only libshits take them seriously and even religiously

Oh, did I mention that the sodomite student club wants to organize a drag queen event? A drag queen already came to the university, sneaked in, or something. I told the (((Father))) that if they didn't do something about the student club it was going to get worse. I skipped the appointment of discussion I had with him because they want to treat this with acceptance. I just told him it's just downhill from here if they don't act. And that's exactly what's going on.

Hah, Catholics. I wonder when a gay saint is going to be canonized, or a transexual, since Seraphim Rose is already a canonized gay saint in the Orthodox Church.


 No.3060

>>3059

Proof that it's not race exclusive, it's an academic thing that's pushed by the kikes.


 No.3061

Oh, and people are also talking about white privilege. We're not fucking white, we're mestizos and castizos, being white is exclusive to the white race, fucking idiots


 No.3062

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This is rough translation by Google. Insults are weirdly translated, but just look at this trash. It was in response to the shit that was flung at the LGBT community. The other pic, our drag queen "visitant". Other pics are self-explanatory.

At this point I'm waiting for the university to fall apart.


 No.3063

>>3060

>>3059

>>3061

>>3062

I wish there was an easy way to break people out of this mindset.


 No.3064

>>3063

There might be one, but at this point I just want my university to be destroyed so I'm in moral apathy mode.


 No.3065

File: cb2086b655f89c5⋯.jpg (1000.33 KB, 1600x1200, 4:3, Missionaries-Walking-Deskt….jpg)

File: 346c1b6fc490e38⋯.jpg (2.3 MB, 960x540, 16:9, My City's Temple.jpg)

On another note, I fucking love our Church. I guess /b/ recognizes me as Moroni now so I'm finally ID'd.


 No.3066

>>3064

If there is, I haven't found it. It all comes down to knowing the jew is the enemy, but to realize that you have to go back through so much history that it will make the average normalfag's head explode. The holohoax basically sealed the deal that jews will never be allowed to be criticized for anything ever again. I can explain to people that cultural marxism exists, but if they don't understand why it exists and how it has been used throughout history then they will never believe it is a real thing. And these idiots have been trained so well to resort to "racist" "antisemite" etc when their worldview is challenged at this level.


 No.3067

>>3066

Whenever I try to explain this to anyone they think I'm a lunatic and their programming goes to full anger mode. Only my dad sort of agrees with me.


 No.3069

Do you think our Church will accept homosexuals and women pastors in 50 years?


 No.3070

>>3069

>pastors

Don't exist in our religion. I assume you mean bishops. In which case

>women presiding over the Aaronic priesthood

Women would first need to be able to hold the priesthood. If that ever happens leave the church and do not look back. That would take some serious doctrine alteration to be possible.

>accept homosexuals

In order to do that we would have to scrap the entire endowment ordinance. If that happens, leave the church and never look back.


 No.3071

>>3070

True. That would require dismantling our entire doctrine and that's practically impossible because those are the tenets. Any innovation would destroy it and nobody up there wants that. Pretty sure everyone with their postmodernism bitching about an "inclusive" LDS in Salt Lake will just have to put up with it.

iirc in the General Conference both Oaks and another Elder. mentioned postmodernism and homosexuality as a threat, subtly at least.


 No.3072

How are you guys doing tonight?


 No.3073

>>3072

Could be better, could be worse. About normal for me lately tbh.


 No.3074

That girl I minister to makes my day sometimes. All it takes is simple words, but they are words I haven't heard from girls in such a long time that I forgot what it felt like. She is my closest female friend; probably my only real female friend. I didn't go to the activity this morning because I was up all night from overtime at work. I woke up to a text from her saying she missed me at the activity. Just that simple gesture means so much to me, and I can't even begin to describe how much it helps.

I do the same for her, but I never really expected it to be a 2 way thing. I never expected that my ministering efforts with my companion would turn this girl's life around after a difficult move and breakup. That we would rebuild her completely, and she would then turn around and lift me back up. I probably need her just as much as she needed me, but I don't show it as much.

All I know is that this is proof that there are people that are in your life for a reason. This along with the girl I met at the activity last week just shows me that I need to put in as much effort as I can to get to know the people directly around me, and that my efforts to do that were correct. With the girl from the activity last week it took me going to a completely different city, hanging out with girls from around there, and still ending up with someone familiar from my own ward for the majority of the night. Someone that I hadn't spent any time with beforehand. It confirms even further that the girl for me is not on Mutual, she's probably already in my life right now and it may not even be someone that I've considered.


 No.3075

>>3074

>I woke up to a text from her saying she missed me at the activity.

This is very, very significant in terms of attraction, if you're into this thing and not on a friendship term, but it seems it's more of a friendship thing.

> I never expected that my ministering efforts with my companion would turn this girl's life around after a difficult move and breakup. That we would rebuild her completely, and she would then turn around and lift me back up. I probably need her just as much as she needed me, but I don't show it as much.

That's quite uplifting from both sides. The sole fact that you helped her out so well to the point of making her happy is very significant, not an easy feat. It's nice that it works both ways, I'm quite the isolated person so I would never imagine that happening to me, it would be surreal and even a bit scary.

> It confirms even further that the girl for me is not on Mutual, she's probably already in my life right now and it may not even be someone that I've considered.

This is quite interesting. I'm glad you have those feelings from the people around you, and you definitely need to get to know the people around you. It's a healthy, human thing to do. Those feelings you're getting are completely alien to me, I completely lose attraction to everyone, both in friendship and romantically. I asked a girl on a date, she accepted, however I don't feel anything romantic for her anymore for some reason. Must be the kike pills.

You seemed to have turned your life around, just compare yourself right now from where you were a bit more than a month ago. Things changed quite fast and it's when you least expect it. Even if there's occasional relapses, the changes are showing.

I'm also showing changes but I don't feel anything about them, strangely. This is the second time I ask a cute girl out in my life and I don't feel anything about it, it's all sort of meaningless.


 No.3076

>>3075

>This is very, very significant in terms of attraction, if you're into this thing and not on a friendship term, but it seems it's more of a friendship thing.

I'd give almost anything for a girl like this. She can do so much better than me though. I doubt it will go anywhere beyond friendship. But even having a girl this great as just a friend is better than not knowing her at all. I need the things she provides even if it is only provided as a friend. Not having any female influence in your life is about as destructive as being completely isolated. Men are more task oriented, having the goal of accomplishing things together. Women who have not been destroyed by cultural marxism are nurturers. They build and maintain relationships in a way that men alone cannot. Men can have brotherhood, but will never be as well rounded as if they have a close female influence as well.

Men can try to talk to each other about matters of the heart, but our logical nature will never allow us to be able to fully connect on that emotional level in such a way as to be able to increase our development. We would rather keep these things inside, and hidden away from other men so as not to seem vulnerable. And we would encourage each other to keep these things inside, because we don't want to deal with someone else's emotional baggage when we all have our own that we are trying to hide already. With women we can let these things out more freely, and they will be more compassionate because these are the types of things they focus on themselves anyway.

This is why I need to find my wife. I can be hardened, I can be emotionless, I can be logical, but it isn't what I'm happiest doing. I'm happiest when I'm able to use every aspect of what it means to be a man. The psychological complexity that no other being on this earth displays. The story of Adam and Eve never made more sense to me than it does right now. It only makes sense that the man was created first, and then woman created using a piece of us. While that piece is missing, there is nothing that can replace it.


 No.3077

>>3076

You found yourself a golden girl. I agree with the emotional component. I have a lot of female friends due to my major, but no emotional connection with any of them.

>She can do so much better than me though. I doubt it will go anywhere beyond friendship

Not with that attitude tbh, don't be so harsh on yourself. It's nice that you have a girl you can rely on, though. I'm glad she's not tainted by the current cancer that is culture.

>This is why I need to find my wife. I can be hardened, I can be emotionless, I can be logical, but it isn't what I'm happiest doing.

I feel pretty much this all the time

>The story of Adam and Eve never made more sense to me than it does right now. It only makes sense that the man was created first, and then woman created using a piece of us. While that piece is missing, there is nothing that can replace it.

Ironically, Genesis is one of the most anti-MGTOW books when it comes to the true Word of God. The antidote.

I think that if you're behaving in a way that she texts you she might be attracted to you. If you act emotionally you might be seen as a friend, but if you try to act as her potential partner you'd be using game tactics, and that's the most dehumanizing process of courtship. It's mechanical and takes the fun out of relationships, so what you're doing so far is good.


 No.3078

>>3077

>I think that if you're behaving in a way that she texts you she might be attracted to you

She seems closer to a couple other guys than she is to me. I think she is just a very loving woman, and treats her friends with a lot of care.


 No.3079

>>3078

Mormon Signature. You can always win her over, but that's up to you. Sometimes it's better to stay friends to avoid all the dynamics that have to take place.


 No.3080

>>3079

My plan is to stay friends unless things become obvious just through normal interaction. Everything starts as friends anyway, and if there's something more there then it will become obvious over time.


 No.3081

>>3080

That's a great plan. Definitely don't push it cause you're doing well so far.


 No.3082

On another note, I plan on giving a testimony tomorrow if it's possible for me to give a testimony, but I'm not sure if I'm just able to walk in to the pulpit and speak, I think there's specific days for that, but I'm finally getting the Aaronic at least. I want to simply get messages across in the congregation to get a position and state my ground. I want to speak about the Holy Ghost, cause it's a quite mysterious figure in the Godhead. I'll pray and reflect about a testimony so the Holy Ghost comes into me and gives me the power to speak.


 No.3083

>>3082

>there's specific days for that

1st sunday of the month.

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 No.3084

>>3083

Well, damn. I think the Elders are the one that can previously ask to give testimony or people like Stake Presidents or the Bishop. Either way, I have more time to prepare. I want to address the Sacrament and it's healing power, congratulating people in the audience for having the guts to attend Church when most people weak in faith stay at home.


 No.3085

A bit off-topic, but I've been checking /r/theredpill as well as old MGTOW meme content for relationship dynamic skills. The skills are quite complex and female nature is quite interesting to understand, MGTOWs are defeatists that believe the game isn't worth playing, but to each their own. I believe the game's worth playing and the game never ends, so its fun to gain skills and have fun playing it. MGTOW also deals with the infographics that are mostly relationship based, but use a defeatist tone that says waaaaaaah I don't want to play and I'm just going to extinguish my race with radical individualism.

Interesting content to check if you're interested in getting forward with relationships. We definitely have a one up because we're dealing with Latter-day Saint women, which are quite different relationship wise, and I'm pretty sure LDS males aren't quite as skilled as people with an ex-secular background.


 No.3086

>>3085

MGTOW have some serious delusions that make any tips they would have to offer questionable in my eyes. One example is their thoughts on women and love. They approach relationships with women as if women are completely unable to love because of a concept they call "hypergamy". Of course a woman isn't going to want some fat ugly slob to reproduce with because who would? I don't want a fat ugly cat lady to reproduce with either. But that doesn't mean that me or any woman are incapable of loving. It just means that human nature is to attempt to reproduce with mates that have characteristics that are desirable.

This is just 1 of the many seriously flawed things that I see MGTOW push on /b/.


 No.3087

>>3086

What the Red Pill guys find mind boggling is that women "date up" or that is, if they don't find something that's worth it in a relationship, they won't date. As if that were a surprise.

However, their concept of women not being able to love is completely absurd, they treat women as mechanical when any real life experience easily proves otherwise.


 No.3088

Anyways, gotta hit the hay for now. Night fam


 No.3090

Again this girl made my day. It's been so long since I've felt that someone truly cares about me. I don't really know how to handle it. It feels amazing, and yet difficult at the same time. I love to feel that I mean so much to someone, but it also means that I have to strive harder to be better not only for myself but for those who care about me.

Today we took a walk around the church together, and before she left she hugged me. As I felt she was about to pull away, she embraced me harder, so I did the same. That was a good 10 second hug. After she hugged me she told me that next activity I can come to, I need to be there. I haven't felt such love from a girl in such a long time. Even if it is just friendly love, it is real. She really cares about someone like me. It's still hard for me to comprehend.


 No.3091

>>3084

Generally a member of the bishopric will ask someone to give a talk in sacrament meeting but on the first sunday of every month, anyone can go up and bear their testimony.

On another note, i discovered that the highest tithe paying ward in the world is in my mission.


 No.3093

Things are getting overwhelming for me, and I don't think anyone can even tell. Except maybe that girl I minister to. Maybe it's why she's reaching out so much. Maybe she can see it in my eyes. Maybe she can see it in my countenance. Maybe she can feel it in my spirit. As amazing as some of the things I can do are, there's a volatility to me.

I'll have my moments of amazing accomplishment, followed by a big fall. I guess it's the price of completely rebuilding. I knew it wasn't going to be easy The thing I didn't expect was to be shoved back into this isolation so quickly. It's tearing me apart. What I took from the talks today is that I need to determine what I need to change. Pretty simple tbh as far as things I have the power to change right now.

I need to get back into scripture study. For some reason though, it isn't simple. I haven't ever struggled this much with it. I can't seem to do anything to help myself. It's like the isolation is crippling my ability to build the motivation to do what it takes to move forward. I've always struggled with some depression, but not like this since joining the church. Taking this new job was supposed to help me, but so far it's only made my life much more difficult.

I did accomplish one thing of note today: I sat with a girl I've never sat with before. I know I do that every week since I started doing it months ago, but this time is different for a very significant reason. This time I was guided by the spirit to sit with the girl that rejected me so many months ago. I don't think I've ever told the anons that are new to the board the story, but it was a painful rejection that shouldn't have ended up the way it did. If anyone really wants to hear that I can tell it again, but the short story is that I lost her and another person as friends over it.

Over all the months I've been sitting with girls at sacrament, I haven't ever gotten the urge to sit with her even though she always sits alone. Until today. I had the strongest feeling that I had to do it, and I still can't really understand why. First I felt that I had to sit with her. Then when I did, I felt something even more. I felt her spirit. Or maybe it was just a projection of my own. I can't really say for sure, but what I felt is that she is dealing with something pretty similar to me right now. It felt like she needed someone there with her. It felt like her spirit was reaching out to mine.

Not only did I determine this from what I felt being next to her, but her overall countenance. It just felt like she needed someone to be there with her. I won't ever know if I'm correct in what I felt, unless my actions today have opened the lines of communication back up between the two of us. Before today, we hadn't spoken more than a few words to each other in passing. We haven't had a conversation since before she rejected me. Today she started a conversation with me after sacrament.


 No.3094

>>3090

She seems to have a ton of empathy. Wish more of these girls existed.

>>3091

>On another note, i discovered that the highest tithe paying ward in the world is in my mission.

Interesting. I don't pay my tithing yet, as far as I know. Nobody has asked me anything yet and I've been a bit busy with the entire Priesthood thing, since I slept in yesterday and wasn't able to go to Church.

>>3093

>I've always struggled with some depression, but not like this since joining the church.

I was about to say that that seemed like some serious depression. The girl maybe can tell and she's being very empathetic, but she might also, just maybe, have a love interest.

>I don't think I've ever told the anons that are new to the board the story, but it was a painful rejection that shouldn't have ended up the way it did. If anyone really wants to hear that I can tell it again, but the short story is that I lost her and another person as friends over it.

I think I've never heard about this. I remember about your plan of sitting next to new girls every week, but I just remember the Mutual era rejections from both you and the women. I can't remember about this part.

>I can't really say for sure, but what I felt is that she is dealing with something pretty similar to me right now. It felt like she needed someone there with her. It felt like her spirit was reaching out to mine.

The fact that she's sitting alone is already quite curious already. Something similar may be happening. I'm glad she's open to dialogue again.

You might feel like you don't have your shit together but it's the depression speaking. With depression all the pieces seem to be out of place when in reality there's nothing that's really too out of place. It makes you feel completely fallen apart.

t. 10 years + of experience


 No.3095

I'm also as depressed as you hex, if that makes you feel better. We're kind of on the same boat here.


 No.3096

>>3095

Kike pills aren't working so far


 No.3098

>>3094

>I can't remember about this part.

I think when that happened it was only me and !!Rap30HJ.Ms on this board. The story is that I felt that I should finally ask this girl out for Valentine's Day. I had been getting to know her for 5-6 months when I saw her around activities. She didn't really come to church at that time. She only came to the activities that I planned. So I saw her every 2 weeks. That's the main reason I waited so long. But slowly I got to know her, and on the activity a few days before Valentine's Day I showed up early and let my friends know I was going to do it.

I waited until the end of the activity and asked if I could talk to her outside. Another guy from my ward heard me ask her that and he approached me after she walked away and said "You are going to ask her out too?". I wanted to beat his face in for the disrespect of that action, but I just stared at him. He apologized and said he would text me later. I'm conflicted at this point about what I should do, but I decide to go through with it. I go outside with her and I ask her. Rejected.

I send a text to this guy to get things worked out, and without me asking him to do anything he tells me that he's gonna pursue other girls. I took that as a friend being a true friend. He was protecting me. I was so wrong. It was a lie. A week later he's avoiding me, and pursuing her. I called him out on it, and he admitted it. I can never trust him again. And I'm not unreasonable, if he would have given me a week or so to recover and then talked to me I wouldn't have cared one bit if he decided he wanted to ask her out. Just don't lie to me about it. So that's how I lost friend number 1. Let's get to the part that was even more difficult.

On Sunday I get called into the bishop's office. He tells me that I need to stay away from her. I was in shock that I'd be asked such a thing. I was only gonna treat her as if she was my friend and nothing had ever happened. I agreed to stay away at that time, but as I was driving home I started thinking. How could the bishop even know what happened? Someone said something. It was her or him. So I started texting the bishop pressing him on it. I said that I know someone said something, and it was either her or him. I let him know that I wanted to resign from my calling since I couldn't be sure who did it, and if it was her that makes 2 people in my 5 person group that have a problem with me. I told him I would not be an effective leader in that situation. He finally told me it was her, she told him that she felt uncomfortable around me.

And that's how I lost 2 friends and a calling from asking a girl out in a YSA ward.

>With depression all the pieces seem to be out of place when in reality there's nothing that's really too out of place. It makes you feel completely fallen apart.

Yeah, it's something I'll probably always struggle with a little bit. Maybe not as much when I finally accomplish my goals.

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 No.3099

Lately I've been thinking a lot about how I can improve my scripture study routine. This morning I woke up to receive a delivery and went back to bed. I was in between asleep and awake when the words Proverbs 30 came into my mind. I picked up my phone to look it up but the light was blinding and I was tired so I put it down and fell asleep. I looked up the scripture just now and here is what stood out to me:

>2 Surely I am more brutish than any man, and have not the understanding of a man.

>3 I neither learned wisdom, nor have the knowledge of the holy.

>4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son’s name, if thou canst tell?

>5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.

From these verses I take: no matter where you are in life put your trust into the word of God and he will be a shield unto you. As a convert I can relate to this scripture so much. When I'm at work talking with my coworkers it's like we are from different worlds. At church it can feel the same way. I am the brute that hasn't learned the knowledge of man or the holy. I'm kinda in between the 2 worlds. At times lately I've gotten discouraged.

As a convert I don't have the scripture knowledge that others do. How will I ever catch up? I can't even hold a consistent routine. Before today I'm pretty sure I hadn't ever read this scripture. But that isn't what matters, what matters is to always do my best to learn from the word of God and always put my trust in him. The rest will come over time.

As I put my trust in Him today I was led to this scripture. I know it won't always be so easy, I won't always just hear a voice in my dreams tell me exactly which scripture to read, but after reading this one I know what I have to do. I just have to do my best and put my trust in the Lord.

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 No.3100

>>3098

His snake tongue probably mentioned rumors to her to the point that it made her so uncomfortable that the bishop even had to intervene. Allow me to be a bit non-PC here but it's none of the bishop's fucking business tbh, he should focus on ecclesiastical matters instead of in gossip.

>>3099

>As a convert I can relate to this scripture so much. When I'm at work talking with my coworkers it's like we are from different worlds. At church it can feel the same way.

I've felt this. Quite an interesting message from the Spirit you got there, though, and quite a necessary.

> I am the brute that hasn't learned the knowledge of man or the holy. I'm kinda in between the 2 worlds.

I've felt the same way. Being honest I haven't felt the Spirit in a few weeks.

>How will I ever catch up? I can't even hold a consistent routine. Before today I'm pretty sure I hadn't ever read this scripture. But that isn't what matters, what matters is to always do my best to learn from the word of God and always put my trust in him. The rest will come over time.

I need this kind of motivation, because I haven't read Scripture in well over a month….hard to admit, but I've been lacking in spiritual matters and getting too much into worldly affairs that mean nothing. They mean absolutely nothing. They might seem serious but everything's trivial when it comes to the divine.

I've been praying for the Spirit to come to me but I think I must put from my part for things to happen.


 No.3101

Off-topic but it seems that there's an actual nigger, as in an actual cainspawn posting on /b/. We've reached the end.


 No.3102

>>3101

I hope the stolen computer gets returned back to its owner and cleansed thoroughly with antibacterial liquid


 No.3103

REPEAL OFFICIAL DECLARATION 2 Alright, back on topic, I really want to go to Church already. I need to take the Sacrament and partake on the renewal of the Spirit to see if this somewhat helps me out. I miss feeling the Spirit. I think I'm going to watch some messages of the Latter-day prophets on Gospel Library.


 No.3104

>>3103

This is because I didn't wake up for Church last week. Missed the Aaronic, once again.


 No.3105

>>3100

>>3099

If you don't make time for scripture study, its not gonna happen. Litterally schedule it into your day at a specific time and hold to it. If you don't have a plan to start reading consistantly, its never gonna happen. I've litterally done in person reminders to people in the morning I've taught to get them to read the scriptures and even then, its nigh impossible to get people to read them if they don't set apart time of their own will to do it. If i didn't have a set time to read the scriptures on my mission, i would be so much more illiterate in them than i am now. In 14 months with about 2-3 hours of study daily, I've read the entire standard works twice through and a few other books (saints, Jesus the christ, law of the harvest) and actually have a grasp on the gospel in a way I've never had before. It's all just about taking the time to gain knowledge yourself and thats one of the benefits I see of the new lesson program the church is putting out. It emphasizes understanding the scriptures for all members.


 No.3106

>>3105

>If you don't make time for scripture study, its not gonna happen

That's the part I'm working on.


 No.3107

I know I said I don't want /b/ meta here, but /b/ is about to get a whole lot better. Remedy btfo


 No.3108

>>3107

Who else remembers when remedy told me dysnomia wasn't gonna lift a finger on the issue of him messing with my bans? :^)


 No.3109

>>3105

Other than my schedule being all sorts of messed up, what do you think about the rest of the message I shared? I thought it was a really cool experience that I was led to a scripture that I hadn't ever read through a half awake/half asleep dream. It was something that I hadn't ever had happen to me before


 No.3110

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Happy Thanksgiving!!!!!!!!


 No.3111

>>3105

Great tip. Will be sure to set a schedule for it.

>>3107

Ikr? lol

>>3110

Likewise!

As an anecdote, I got into a huge argument with an SJW yesterday to the point that she had to get physically restrained due to how emotional she got and wanted to physically attack me. I don't even remember the details of the argument, for some reason, but my point is. Never, ever, ever date outside the Church or marry outside the Church.


 No.3112

>>3111

Women are all infested by a virus and the Church keeps them from culture infiltrating them. I tend to fall for the MGTOW meme every now and then and yesterday I fell hard for it. Sometimes I have alternative denominations I'm interested in, but I lost all interest for the SDA due to women pastors/preachers. I can't imagine a congregation being led by a woman, and less to a congregation full of niggers (1 in 3 SDA is a nigger). Churches of Christ are fine though.

However, I'm part of the Church of Jesus Christ.


 No.3113

I'm not going to lie though, I'm not too keen on having kids at the moment. Maybe later on in life but my posture is kind of rigid on that one.


 No.3114

>>3110

Happy Thanksgiving


 No.3115

It's almost Sunday, boyim :DDD


 No.3116

I've been checking MormonLeaks and there's literally nothing wrong going on except what the politically correct founder dislikes. Guy should just be silenced, good thing nobody takes him seriously except for Utah ex-Mormons.


 No.3117

Bought an Ancestry DNA kit for Black Friday, it'll take 2 weeks to come to Mexico and then I'll visit Austin and send it back there

I'll probably have a tiny bit of African blood, but who knows. Hopefully not, I don't want to be in that part of Scripture, despite Declaration #2. It applies to the negro race, not the Lamanite + Jaredite race.


 No.3118

>>3117

It's the less biased one cause 23andme adds African genes to everyone, but you can compare between different DNA tests online with some weird program.


 No.3119

Found out said SJW has been claiming that I sexually harrassed her. I took a screencap of that and the death threat she posted in a group and reported her to school council. No pussy pass is going to be given here.


 No.3120

I was wrong. I was wrong about that girl I got rejected by so many months ago. I thought I was over liking her. I'm not. I still wish I knew why it happened that way. If I could find that out I'd have the closure I need. I also still wonder why I got the feeling I needed to sit with her on Sunday. I don't understand it. All that did was bring all of it back. I went to a game/movie night tonight and she was there. We spent some time together, and everything seemed to be alright between us. At least we can be friends again, but I still want more.

The girl I've been wanting to ask out was there too, but honestly I don't even want to anymore. I don't really know what I'm going to do.


 No.3121

>>3120

We're more similar than I thought we were. I also tend to fall for those kinds of people, even if they reject me, the spark rekindles. You can be friends but don't get too attached, it's a bad idea, I think the snake male friend of hers talked to the bishop, but it might have as well been her "out of harrassment".

I also don't feel like going out with the girl I asked out. She's just pretty but eh.

Also, I'm mostly wary of women, precisely that one you talk about, due to the false rape accusations I'm getting that are being handled now by a Committee. She's lied about being sexually harrassed and now she's going to get rekt by the full power of the university and a conservative non-SJW tainted committee.


 No.3122

Not going to lie, I don't know how to deal with this in a Christian manner. I plan to use all my persuasion tactics and the manipulation techniques that I know about so that this is dealt with in my favor. I hadn't been pissed off about this but now I am. She went full Californian university student.


 No.3123

>>3122

My blood is boiling at the moment


 No.3124

>>3121

She has been on my mind for weeks now, and things have just kinda snowballed to a point where I feel that I need to do something. First I talked to her ministering brother 2 weeks ago and admitted that the entire rejection and not knowing why things happened the way they did has held me back in a lot of ways. At that point I didn't think I still had any feelings for her. He recommended I should talk to her. He offered himself to talk to her as well. I gave him permission to do it if he wanted to because I didn't really care what happened at this point.

Last Sunday I got the strong feeling to sit with her and I did. This led to our first conversation since February. Then we spent some time together at the movie night. Now I have a strong feeling that something needs to happen. And I think that thing is that I need to be a man, and talk to her directly about what happened. I want to be sure that this is correct though, so maybe I need to talk to her ministering brother or the girl I minister to who is relief society president. Someone that knows her well enough to confirm that this is a good idea.

>>3122

>>3123

I don't know how I would handle this either, but I wish you luck in dealing with it.


 No.3125

Baptised Catholic and raised Catholic. I remember being in religious education and my teacher telling the class, I was around 8-10 years at the time, that she loved God more than her children. She said it with such confidence and gumption, like no other position could be accepted, and all I could feel at the time was disgust. Hope that bitch drowns in her blind piety.

Does LDS suffer from this faggotry?


 No.3126

>>3124

>I don't know how I would handle this either,

Actually, I can tell you how I handled it the one time it happened to me in college. It wasn't a rape accusation as much as a harassment accusation but universities here are pretty quick to side with a girl so it doesn't take much to completely screw you over. I ended up having to talk to some conflict resolution guy about what happened. I speak pretty loudly and he commented on it when he was talking to me, I noticed he wore a hearing aid so I played it off as me being hard of hearing as well. I could tell I won him over a bit with that. In the end he basically said if he gets anymore complaints from her about me they will have to look into taking some sort of action against one(me) or both of us. But he kinda implied he believed me without saying too much. So I knew I kinda had him on my side at that point

Later on I had a huge break for my side of things. She left her flash drive in 1 of the computers. I logged into her computer, and started to look through it. What I found was a draft of a letter she was writing to me. It made her look extremely bad, but her plan was to get a teacher to sign off on her letter to me. She even forged his signature. She was making threats about getting a restraining order on me and filing frivolous lawsuits if she had to to bring me down. So I stole the flash drive. I printed her letter out, set it on the desk in front of my computer, and left the room. I came back in later when I knew the teacher would be there, and acted astonished to find her letter threatening me.

I faked tears as I told this teacher what this girl's plan was. That she was going to attempt to ruin my life through lawsuits. I mentioned that the letter said it was signed by the other teacher in our degree program, and that I didn't think there was any way he really signed off on such a thing. The teacher agreed, and just like that I had everyone on my side.

Game over. I won.


 No.3127

>>3125

There is a pretty simple reason for this. Regardless of any religion, if you believe that everything you own is a blessing bestowed upon you by God it only makes sense to glorify Him for everything you have. Without Him there are no children. I know what you mean with how you feel about people saying that, but there is some logic to it. It's hard for me to deal with myself. I've seen profiles on Mutual that say "I'll always love God more than you". What I've been taught of this religion is that the only people that it is acceptable to love as much as God are your spouse and your family. So as far as I know this religion believes that you can love your family on an equal level to your love of God even though God is the one that provided that family for you.


 No.3128

>>3127

I realize the way I described it makes me seem selfish and self-centered, which was not the intention. I'm not a parent but I find it hard to believe that after creating and birthing a child, nurturing them and caring for them, that you could merely toss them aside so easily in your loyalty test to your deity.

>if you believe that everything you own is a blessing bestowed upon you by God it only makes sense to glorify Him for everything you have. Without Him there are no children

This makes a lot of sense; never thought to look at it like this.

>What I've been taught of this religion is that the only people that it is acceptable to love as much as God are your spouse and your family

I am truly curious to find out if this is just you or if this is LDS doctrine. I should probably also find out if the true is same for Catholicism but I get the feeling that it is.or if it was just that one teacher; consequently, that one incident turned me off of organized religion pretty hard.


 No.3129

>>3128

>selfish and self-centered

Well I was certainly redundant there.


 No.3130

>>3129

:^)

>>3128

>I realize the way I described it makes me seem selfish and self-centered

Nah I know exactly what you mean. I struggle with it myself when I see it. I just kinda try to remind myself that if I truly believe that everything I have came from God, then it is OK if someone wants to say they love God more than their family or their spouse. I don't personally think it's a great thing to say, just because it kinda comes off as insulting, but to glorify God in that way can also be a really good thing. We are supposed to value God above the things of the world, so it does make sense to glorify Him for the things of the world which we are given. One thing we are taught in this church is that we can become like God so it is possible to love our spouse and family on the same level that we love God. Because to become like Him we have to make it to exaltation, and create an eternal family. I don't know if there is doctrine to support what I say, I'm not the strongest in the scriptures. Just going by what I've heard tbh


 No.3131

>>3130

From what I've seen, LDS takes the family and community aspect very seriously. These realities certainly make it very attractive. I'm just not quite sure how to sit with its theology, or any Christian theology for that matter.

Thanks for the responses anon.


 No.3132

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>>3131

>From what I've seen, LDS takes the family and community aspect very seriously.

Definitely true. Something you may find interesting to read is the Family Proclamation. Pic related. This is a statement from the church on the importance of the family, and the roles of the mother and father in building and maintaining a family.

>I'm just not quite sure how to sit with its theology, or any Christian theology for that matter

What I recommend in this situation is to really ponder what you want out of life, and determine if the church can help you to get these things that you want. For me, I want a real shot at marriage and creating a family. I think this church is the best opportunity for me to reach this goal. Eternal marriage and eternal families minimize the risk of divorce which is a huge problem in the world right now. I think it helps people to value marriage and family more.

>Thanks for the responses anon.

You're welcome, anon. Feel free to ask about anything here, and I'll do my best to answer.


 No.3133

>>3132

>What I recommend in this situation is to really ponder what you want out of life, and determine if the church can help you to get these things that you want.

Wouldn't religious folk view this as disingenuous? Somehow I'd feel like I was using the Church and its beliefs for personal gain.


 No.3134

>>3133

Is it disingenuous, or is it realizing the true potential of this church, accepting that it is truth through virtue of it being able to provide what you hope to accomplish, and using this truth to your advantage?


 No.3137

I'm still dealing with the girl whom I asked for her number and that said "Give me a while". Dealing with seeing and getting distracted by her every week while she subtly ignores me and just focusing on her instead of Christ and the teachings. I need to pretend she's not real and simply another woman from now on. I'm sick of her occupying my thoughts.


 No.3138

>>3134

Sometimes I say things that blow my own mind


 No.3139

>>3138

Heh, indeed, your reflections can get pretty deep


 No.3140

I'm glad people are opening up to our faith and realizing that we're not a cult, lol. So many misconceptions from ex-Mormons and mistaking us for Jehovah's Witnesses.


 No.3141

>>3139

The amount of alcohol I was on when I made that post is what is really mind blowing.

>>3140

Agreed. I'm talking to a couple guys on /b/ right now. 1 former member, 1 non member but spiritual. We are having a pretty interesting discussion about my life which is rare for /b/.


 No.3142

Please pray for me. Tomorrow I'm presenting my defense against the false sexual assault allegations made to me by a SJW, including two threats of violence. I need to win this case.


 No.3146

>>3141

I don't know why I had to get so much. I guess not only will this be a reset for me, but I will come to hate this more than I ever have. I regretted it the moment it arrived. I know I've hit the bottom this time. The one thing I took from church on Sunday was from the girl that rejected me months ago. She said the opening prayer in sacrament, and her emphasis was on being grateful for our weaknesses as it humbles us and causes us to turn to God. I wonder what is making her feel weak. I know what is causing it for me, and I know she is correct in her words.

I feel like I need to say something to her, but the words so far haven't come. And I still fear the consequences if I move too fast.


 No.3147

>>3146

It would be nice if somehow the Spirit connected you and you could help each other. In a friends way, of course.

I fail the Word of Wisdom, being honest, I drink coffee (plan to leave it now that the semester is over) and I also use my vaporizers (the latter is necessary due to brain fog). So don't worry, you only relapse every now and then but don't sin daily :/


 No.3149

>>3147

So I'm getting the Aaronic this Sunday, and apparently the Melchizedek this February, since it happens during Stake Conferences. If it wasn't in February, I'd have to wait till August. That's fast and I don't feel ready at all. But I have time to work things out.


 No.3151

>>3149

More authority means both a higher capacity for blessings but also temptation and condemnation as well. I know this from being on a mission. This time in my life will most likely be the easiest time to get excommunicated if i wanted to because of the position i hold now. Just like with recieving either of the priesthoods, you will be tried further and you are going to have to ready yourself. Just make sure you are prepared and have read the oath and covenant of the priesthood in D&C.

Best of luck and well wishes. Yall anons are always in my prayers.


 No.3152

>>3151

D&C section 84 is a good read preperatory to getting the priesthoods.


 No.3153

>>3149

>So I'm getting the Aaronic this Sunday, and apparently the Melchizedek this February

That is fast. I had to wait almost a year.


 No.3154

>>3147

>you only relapse every now and then but don't sin daily :/

Every relapse is unacceptable. Luckily, I couldn't do it daily if I tried. Going to work with a hangover is not something I feel like doing. Unfortunately though, I have 6 more bottles of wine.


 No.3155

>>3154

>Unfortunately though, I have 6 more bottles of wine.

I am planning to quit once it's gone though. For me substances have always been a thing I use to think in a different way. Unfortunately with alcohol that excuse is kinda crap because the obvious reason for alcohol is to forget about everything for a little while. Although, I have had some very interesting thoughts while on the stuff. Mostly though, I wake up in the morning and ask myself "why do I do this to myself?". And I know the answer. Because I fear that I won't reach my goals. "Oh ye of little faith"

I know and I wish I could be stronger. I know I can be stronger. If I could just see even a hint of something working sometime soon. Pushing me back into isolation was 1 hell of a test, and I've failed it.


 No.3156

Hey tripfags, it’s the Eagle Scout guy again.

Guys I’m in need of some advice, see I was looking around this board and it got me interested in the religion.

Then over the summer I did some serious self-reflection and a good look at some spiritual shit. I decided that when the college semester starts I would contact the missionaries, and I did.

Fast forward to now, I really am planning on converting and I have had absolutely nothing but great experiences with the church and it’s members.

I am planning on converting sometime in the very close future (1 month or 2) and I’m really excited and anxious for it.

BUT my parents really don’t know what I have been doing and they don’t know that I have been looking into the church. They are some intense people (both support the I.R.A.) and I’m worried how they would react.

Can you help a future brother out and give me some advice or recommendations?


 No.3157

>>3156

>Can you help a future brother out and give me some advice or recommendations?

My parents didn't react well, but somehow things worked themselves out. I can tell you the story if you want to hear it.

I'd start by letting them know you are interested in the church and see how they react to that. For me, it was telling my mom that I was gonna have the missionaries over again. She flipped on me, and it was tough for a while but you have to see what their initial reaction is before you will know how to proceed with convincing them that it is what is best for you.


 No.3159

>>3158

That story had some of the gayest things I have ever read, but thanks for sharing.

I was hoping to break the news sometime before Christmas and get baptized after, does that seem like a good idea?

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 No.3160

>>3159

>That story had some of the gayest things I have ever read

Well then, you can fuck off back to wherever you came from.


 No.3161

I don't understand how the Lord can love me the way He does when I fail to live up to the expectations that have been set. Last night I drank a bottle and a half of wine. I accepted an hour of overtime the day before, so I had to be in an hour early for work. I got out of bed 45 minutes before I had to leave because I was too hungover to get up on time. I tried to rush but got out the door 10 minutes later than I wanted to.

I drove like a maniac trying to get to work on time, and hit a wall of traffic near the end of my route. As we inched forward I watched my GPS tell me the estimated time of arrival. I'd be there with 5 minutes to spare, then 4, then 3. I said a prayer. I finally go through the light, and the next light I turn left on had a line in the left turn lane, so I decided to gamble and go straight and try to get through the next light. I saw a line of cars all the way to the light in the left lane, but no one in the left turn lane so I got into the left turn lane super early and sped forward instead of waiting.

I had only 1 semi truck in front of me to turn left. I knew I was screwed. Not only do I have to make it through this light behind a slow truck, I have to right turn at the next light, turn into the parking lot, find a spot, and make it to the time clock. Time keeps ticking for what feels like an eternity, and finally we get our green arrow. He turns and gets into the left lane. The light ahead is green, and I'm the only one in the right lane. How can this be? I speed forward, and make my right turn just as the light is changing to red. I turn into the parking lot, and there's a spot open for me. 1 minute. I run to the room where the time clock is. I clocked in with 14 seconds to spare.

I can't believe I made it.


 No.3162

>>3161

Besides all of that work was mostly uneventful. I wanted to ask the cute girl I know there for her # but when I said hi to her today she just sighed and walked away. Her hands were full of papers and stuff she was working on, and she looked extremely busy/stressed about something. After she left I left her a candy cane on her desk. She probably won't know it was me that did it, but that's OK. I just hope that her knowing someone was thinking about her even a little bit brightens her day tomorrow.


 No.3165

>>3161

>Last night I drank a bottle and a half of wine.

Why? Are you even trying to resist harming yourself? Stop drinking alcohol.

Learn meditation, the most effective and easy to learn is one that gives your mind something to focus on. This distracts you from worrying about what causes your anxiety temporarily.

Microcosmic orbit is a very good one for this, I like it because you can lay down and close your eyes. Do it twice per day in the morning before you get out of bed, and at night before you go to sleep, it will help you to fall asleep. If you need a simplified tutorial let me know.

Or mindfulness but it's to structured for me and dosen't work as good as the above in my opinion. You don't have to be afraid of meditation, it is emotional training, and teaches you how relax and ignore and get rid of the stress that builds up. Drugs and alcohol is a drug will not help you long term and destroy your health and life. :^)


 No.3166

>>3165

>Why? Are you even trying to resist harming yourself?

Right now? No. I have a few bottles left and once it's gone it's gone. I won't be buying it again.

>Drugs and alcohol is a drug will not help you long term and destroy your health and life.

I know all too well. It's messing my routine up even more than it already was, and I know it can't continue. I shouldn't have bought it in the first place, but I don't have a lot of support right now. It's me trying to hold myself up, and using this place as an outlet every once in a while. Don't worry too much about me though, I've been through a lot worse than this with even less support than I have now. I guess the best thing I can say is that I'm getting this so far out of my system that it will make me sick just thinking about doing it again.


 No.3167

I'm back

>>3155

Yeah, I notice you blame yourself really harshly when it comes to booze. I can't process booze anymore, I tend to just throw it up after drinking it for some reason. At least you avoid it most of the time

>>3156

They'll react badly, probably, Mormons get a bad rep. Mostly cause they get confused for Jehovah's Witnesses. Your family will probably like the Church's conservatism though. I'm not sure how they'll react, but definitely persist in what you do.

Tell them about your interest in the Church and see how they react, little by little they might get convinced if it's for the better. If they appreciate conservative values, tell them everything about the Church's late-to-modern history and even our thoughts about coffee.

>>3160

Tfw couldn't read the story

>>3161

Well, shit, wow. Heavenly Father did help you out with this one.

>>3162

Probably extremely overly stressed if she just sighed and walked away. A bit rude from her part if it came from a single sigh. Wait for her to communicate to you from now on.

>>3165

I've always planned to get into meditation. I found a MEGA with all the Headspace MP3 files, might download that. Also, some The Great Courses tutorials on how to practice mindfulness.

Our Church is well aware of drugs and alcohol but some of us have some issues with it. I personally have it with coffee. It ruins my sleep, it makes me keep looking like a lanklet, and, well, it just zaps me out of my energy. Just alert, but just as sleepy and non-creative with processing new information.

>>3166

You seemed to have handled this wine better than the other past times you've got drunk. Maybe you've got a better handle on your alcohol than before, which is good.


 No.3168

I have a Church dance tonight. I have no energy and I need caffeine. Fuck I hate how this works with my body. If I don't have coffee whenever it comes to hanging out to other people I just can't function.


 No.3169

I'm on a lot of meds that cause a ton of fatigue, so I'm gradually weaning myself off of these.

I'm off Effexor since tonight, but then, I have to deal with weaning off caffeine and nicotine, which also cause fatigue long term. I also take three other meds, with three particular ones that induce drowsiness. I need to get out of this hellhole, fast. Thankfully I'm on my Christmas break so I have enough time to do switching and cold turkey-ing off anything that violates the Word of Wisdom, that actually makes me tired, like coffee and nicotine. I've got like five weeks for this and I need to get rid of fatigue, fast.

I can't see myself going to this night event, but I have to, in a way. It's going to be the last one in two weeks so I have time.

Just to give you an idea, people think I have pseudonarcolepsy, that's how bad it is.


 No.3170

Welp, saw the underage girl again in some sort of event at the Church where all the youth girls were showing off some of their personalities in some sort of stands. She's very energetic and smart and I want her so bad, asked her for her phone and she said she didn't have it. Complete bs. So it's just a rejection from her. Better move on. Either way, I'll see her all my life unless she dies.


 No.3171

>>3167

>Yeah, I notice you blame yourself really harshly when it comes to booze

When I promise to do something, and don't live up to it I feel I have to be hard on myself. I'm surprised this board still has users with how bad an example I've been lately.

>Tfw couldn't read the story

Pretty sure you have read that one before. My conversion story except typed up while black out drunk this time. Only a faggot like that anon that I b& would take anything gay out of a story about me meeting 2 cute missionary girls and joining the church. I question what his purpose was here talking to anyone on this board like that. This board should be a place where people are able to share their spiritual stories, their struggles, and whatever else they want to share without someone insulting them for it.

>You seemed to have handled this wine better than the other past times you've got drunk

Maybe, maybe not. I still end up black out drunk. I do like drinking wine quite a bit better than the other stuff I had been drinking(hard liquor and beer). I finally acquired a taste for the stuff. I probably shouldn't admit that though, I don't need to give myself any reason to get more of this shit. I do have plenty of reasons not to now, so I don't see myself buying more.

Through this process I've learned a few things: I really want to get my workout and scripture study routines in order, I want to get my diet into a better place, I know which girl I want to pursue, and I know more than ever I don't want to keep drinking like this. Waking up sick isn't any fun, even if the night before takes my mind off everything for a little while. It all comes back worse afterwards. Especially knowing my worthiness is in question. Once I repent of this, I don't want to look back.


 No.3172

>>3171

>I'm surprised this board still has users with how bad an example I've been lately.

Nah dude, you're alright. We're human beings. We fall down, we get up.

>Only a faggot like that anon that I b& would take anything gay out of a story about me meeting 2 cute missionary girls and joining the church. I question what his purpose was here talking to anyone on this board like that.

Yeah, especially since he's LDS. What the hell, he needs to get more in touch with God or else he'll be a Jack Mormon. More humility and compassion ffs.

>It all comes back worse afterwards. Especially knowing my worthiness is in question. Once I repent of this, I don't want to look back.

I guess that it might be good in moderation then you might cut back for a while. Can't be that bad if you cut down gradually. Your taste for it will gradually leave.

I also need to get my Scripture study in order. I'm focused now more on intellectual pursuit that on other sort of pursuits. I need to give a testimony this Sunday and I want to write it down tomorrow when I'm guided by the Spirit.

I'm troubled by liking a girl that's in the youth group. I might speak to this with my bishop. Either way, I'll see her for the rest of my life, like I said, but still. There's so many women to chase and I need to practice my game.

I'll probably read Wrestling the Angel (LDS Theology) and The Rational Male for dating. There's a nerdy girl I'm into right now.


 No.3173

>>3172

>Yeah, especially since he's LDS.

He's the eagle scout anon, the one claiming that he was looking to convert. So not LDS but investigating. Still though, same thing applies. Especially when he's talking about how his parents may not approve. How would he feel if he told his parents about wanting to convert and they just said to him "well that's some of the gayest stuff I've ever heard, thanks for sharing that with us son".

>I guess that it might be good in moderation then you might cut back for a while.

I hope to quit completely, and if things with one of these girls works out that will be very easy to do.

>I'm troubled by liking a girl that's in the youth group.

I kinda know that feel. I'm troubled by how much I still like this girl at work even though she's obviously out of her damn mind infected with the cultural marxist ideology. There's a part of me that thinks a strong man in her life could fix it, or maybe that's just me feeling unworthy to have the girl I really want right now.


 No.3174

>>3173

Also I hang out with my normalfag co-workers way too much now. Their degeneracy is starting to bring out some of my old degeneracy. I need to be around better people, but I'm stuck with this job for a while.


 No.3175

>>3173

>>3174

Yeah, it's the influence of shitty people rubbing onto you. About love, we can't do much about it except ignore the hell out of it. It's not rational thought, it's purely emotional. Beware of emotions, we might confuse them with the Spirit, despite not being it. Butterflies in the stomach and the Spirit might feel the same, but the Spirit feels, well, like a spiritual impulse more than anything.

The cultural Marxist seems like a lost cause, she's tainted by culture. Completely indoctrinated and thinks it's normal to bring into conversation. As a Mexican I've always found it weird that people in America think it's not okay to be white. Like, what the fuck dude, our country is white, America is white, of course it's okay to be white and proud about it you fucking lefty communist faggots.


 No.3176

>>3175

The spirit is definitely involved in getting me closer to the girl that rejected me. I wouldn't ever have even attempted that if not for the promptings. I think pursuing her is what I need to do.

>The cultural Marxist seems like a lost cause, she's tainted by culture

All I can do in this case is show her love, and hope that the love I show makes her ask herself "what makes him different?". If she isn't too far gone she will feel the spirit when she's around me, and in my actions towards her. Even if I have been failing badly the spirit is still with me. With how much people try to convince me that the spirit leaves easily, I don't know why the spirit is still with me if it's true. But it's there, and it has been guiding me even in my weakest of moments. With her it is probably irrational to hope for anything though, as you said.

I see so much potential in her though. She is a very sweet girl, it's just she has been misled in some things. She is white, so obviously she has one of the fatal characteristics of white people: altruism to a fault. That's probably why she fell for the cultural marxism, and if that's the case she may be susceptible to conversion from Marxism back to sanity.

>Like, what the fuck dude, our country is white, America is white, of course it's okay to be white

In the cultural marxist education system we are taught that we exterminated the indians with small pox blankets, we enslaved the niggers, and in general all we do is harm the world. We aren't ever taught how great white men really were. We are taught that we are inherently racist just by being born. That we owe the world something, when we have given the world everything. It's an intense form of brainwashing that is extremely hard to break. It took me a while myself.


 No.3177

Another bottle down. 2 1/2 to go.


 No.3178

Damn I must be out of my mind. I gotta leave for work in 6 hours and I'm still up and drinking.


 No.3179

>>3178

I believe in you. We can all do better.

I actually wish I was doing as good as you.

I have my own problems with porn and I don't do any sort of missionary work. My personal testimony could be improved and I have not read scriptures in a long time.

But supposedly I am temple worthy.

I envy you.


 No.3181

>>3180

Well, you can fuck off. Not like anyone misses an anonymous person leaving


 No.3184

>>3182

Nah I'm good. I avoid porn the best I can, but unfortunately I'm on SSRIs so they're the Jewish poison I have to take (for now). Moroni is the name of a prophet but I didn't pick it. I want to get into mindfulness meditation though. The world is full of shit so you're actually right in what you say. I guess you should just have been a bit kinder to hex. His testimony came from the heart and it was just kind of rude. I hope you're still interested in the Church cause it's a nice environment.

Do take care and also live a good life.


 No.3185

Oh hey hex, you're here?


 No.3186

>>3179

>I believe in you. We can all do better.

Thanks anon. It's true, none of us will ever be perfect in this life so we can only do the best we can. Repentance is there for us when we do decide to make the change for the better.

>I have my own problems with porn

That is a tough habit to break, especially when it is so hard to find real relationships these days. That has been my struggle with the stuff. It becomes easy to rely on when we have nothing else. Men aren't meant to be alone.

>I envy you.

Well, I hope to be a better example soon. I've had an outpouring of people reaching out to me today and it has really started to hit me just how much I'm throwing away by acting the way I am right now.


 No.3188

>>3185

Just got home


 No.3189

>>3186

Hex, remember you're human. You're not and will never be perfect like Jesus was. You don't need to bring yourself down so much, you are already a good example for the Church.

>>3179

Also need to work on my Scriptural work, and I'll be given the Aaronic tomorrow and the Melchizedek this February. I don't feel ready, however, the Bishops and the Stake Presidents feel a readiness in me that I can't perceive. I must serve as an example so the coffee consumption of mine is declining and I'm back on track with the Book of Mormon.

I get the unworthiness feeling though. Hard to live by all the Godly standards and we'll always feel a bit ashamed by ourselves.

My porn use declined due to medical reasons, low sex drive, which helped break the habit. I still see it about four times a month, and I plan to cut in half. cutting everything in half is always a good plan.


 No.3190

>>3188

Just got here too. I'll be outside reading Wrestling the Angel but I'll be back soon.


 No.3191

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Now reading


 No.3192

Today I learned the cute girl from work is totally against drugs and alcohol. Very very interesting. I'll have her heiling Hitler and gassing the kikes soon enough.


 No.3193

>>3192

Good! A conservative mindset is a good way to start. Redpill her subtly.

Also, hex, I think I'm going to tell my bishop tomorrow that I'm not ready for the Aaronic Priesthood. I don't feel like I should be a holder yet. Or at least, I think he should consider waiting for the Melchizedek. I need to purify myself much more and to be more in line with God's teaching to receive such a power in my life.


 No.3194

>>3193

It is definitely a responsibility. I would say do what you feel is right for sure. It isn't worth it to feel guilty about accepting something when you don't feel worthy. Something I'm struggling with right now. Although, I do know that I can repent of what I've done and I don't think it will hold me back. I definitely feel like they are pushing for the Melchizedek priesthood a bit fast. That one is surprising to me. I held the Aaronic for just a few months less than a year before we started talking about me becoming an elder. In my opinion, discussions about becoming an elder shouldn't even start until after you are comfortable passing and blessing the sacrament.


 No.3195

>>3193

>Good! A conservative mindset is a good way to start. Redpill her subtly.

I have a plan to get her # the next time I talk to her. Then I'll become her friend, and slowly challenge her cultural marxist views. Over time I will redpill her on everything. Best case scenario I create the female version of me, and marry her. When I heard she is against drugs and alcohol my outlook on her completely changed. Liberal women that are against drugs and alcohol are extremely rare. It means that there is something right in her mind, and that something can be expanded upon. I had a feeling she didn't fully believe the white privilege crap she was talking about. I've been waiting for such a perfect opportunity break someone out of their brainwashing. I think she is the perfect experiment for how well I can accomplish this goal.

She is so cute, and her potential for greatness is very obvious. She just needs the strength of a man that hasn't succumbed to cultural marxism. I may not be as strong and masculine as I should be, but I'm a far cry from the soy boys of today. I have plans to become a much better man than I am, and I just need to find my ideal woman to complete my transformation.


 No.3196

>>3195

My outlook is slowly becoming more positive as far as women are concerned. The amount of options I've created for myself is growing constantly even though I don't get to go to activities. I know every girl in my ward. I have regular contact with our relief society president, and have been spending time with every girl I get a chance to. I even have an option at work. I can ask out the girl that rejected me again, and not even give a damn about her answer. If it's yes, then good. If it's no then she will get to watch me hang out with every other girl in the ward and wonder what she's missing. That hug I got right in front of her last week was a huge victory for me. I have to realize these victories, and use them to build myself up.

I have to stop thinking in terms of my weakness and start thinking in terms of how much strength I've acquired through my actions recently. There is so much potential for me to create something amazing, I just have to take advantage of the circumstances that I have created for myself instead of focusing on the lack of opportunities I have. What I have done is amazing, and I have to learn to accept my own greatness rather than reject it and explain it away.

The fire inside me burns stronger than it has in a long time. I have 1 and a half bottles of wine left ,and I will finish it and end this self destruction on a high note. It's time to take full advantage of what is in front of me. Grab it and never let go.

damn I have some serious liquid courage right now.


 No.3197

>>3186

>it is so hard to find real relationships these days

I really want to find someone, but when the number of women to chose from is cut in half by how obese they are it makes it really difficult. My ward does not have great options.

I have been seeing a girl from the Mutual app, but I'm not sure how that will go. We talked at length the other day and she calls herself a feminist. But I think a better word would be egalitarian. She wants everyone to be judged by the same set of standards. Wants women to be encouraged to aspire to more than just being a mother or finding a man. We talked about IQ bell curves between men and women and how there will be differences, but she was ok with differences in outcome, she just wanted equality of opportunity. She was even supportive of whites having a support group/political group like all the other races.

Sort of a mixed bag.

>>3189

>coffee consumption of mine is declining

Have you tried caffeine pills?

>My porn use declined due to medical reasons, low sex drive

I have see a reduction as well, but more because everytime I do I am reminded that I am circumcised and that I have had something taken from me. I am unhappy with the way it looks and how it does not function the way it was designed to. I just make myself depressed and it kills my libido. The lack of public outrage over infant circumcision and that the one company researching foreskin regeneration barely gets $10k a month of funding, half of their goal. I know this is really off topic but I really just needed to vent about it.


 No.3198

>>3197

>when the number of women to chose from is cut in half by how obese they are it makes it really difficult

That and the girls that aren't obese having unrealistic expectations like wanting to travel the world. I understand completely. All I can recommend is that you create every opportunity for yourself that you can. One thing I can recommend to you right now is to sit with a different girl at sacrament every week. The best way to do this is to pass and bless the sacrament. You get your pick of the open spots once you are dismissed to your seat. If your sacrament works how my ward's does we are thanked for our service after the ordinance is over, and we have our pick of seats. If all you do is sit next to them and introduce yourself you have still won. That's +1 girl to the list of girls that knows your name.

>but more because everytime I do I am reminded that I am circumcised and that I have had something taken from me

I'd recommend not worrying so much about that. It's a useless thing to worry about. You can't change what you aren't in control of. It's demoralization at it's finest, and another way to create submissive MGTOWs


 No.3199

>>3195

>>3196

Yeah, I'm impressed she's even against alcohol. I'm also getting more women lately, I'm not intimidated anymore by asking for numbers or dating, or whatever.

>>3197

From hex's experiences, Mutual is pure garbage. Feminism is about female triumph over men, in a way, it's not that compatible with the church but who knows the individual case.

>Have you tried caffeine pills?

They don't sell them here, but I plan on just detoxifying from caffeine on its entirety.

>I do I am reminded that I am circumcised and that I have had something taken from me.

Not something you need to worry about, tbh, it's just how your dick is. Foreskin regrowth will be a thing, just give it time. Most people are upset with their circumcisions.

The porn industry is Jewish, so guess who funds your addiction and dick snipping propaganda. More fuel for your anti-porn goal.

I just got rejected by a woman in the worst way possible. We already had a tentative date, however, she told me she's seeing someone that's kind of jealous. Told me that she might make it a three way date. No fucking way. Told her that the original plan stands. If she's not interested, maybe whenever she's available then we'll set a date. But no three-way bullshit.

Told her I was sort of busy that day anyways and the day afterwards. Good thing I don't have much attraction to her but it still hit my ego that due to her low interest she gave me the worst of excuses.


 No.3200

Not planning on seeing her messages anymore or replying.


 No.3201

She needed a better excuse. This is pure bullshit.


 No.3202

>>3199

>Told me that she might make it a three way date

That's a load of shit. I'd tell her no way too. That's some cuck shit. Ask her if she wants a 3 way marriage too.


 No.3203

Well, I have presidency meeting in 10 hours. I gotta quit drinking or the hangover tomorrow will be difficult


 No.3204

>>3203

1 1/2 bottles down and 1 to go. I'll finish the last bottle tomorrow night

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 No.3205

>>3204

I've tried to drunk orde rmore wine twice and they have cancelled my order. the one time where giving pajeets alll hte programming jbos pay soff


 No.3206

>>3205

>turning down money

i'd fire someone over this


 No.3207

>>3199

>Foreskin regrowth will be a thing, just give it time.

This is what gives me hope. It will be a thing in less than 20 years. Probably more like 10.

>>3206

Are you ok? You don't sound ok.


 No.3208

>>3207

>Are you ok? You don't sound ok.

I'm not OK. I'm so far from OK that I need a GPS to guide me back. But it's alright. I'll make it.


 No.3209

>>3208

I wish I was there to help you.


 No.3210

>>3209

I appreciate you, anon. Me being rejected from ordering more will be good in the end as long as they continue to cancel my orders. I won't try when I'm sober, I guarantee it. I want to stop, but when I'm drunk all I want is more. So if things go according to plan I won't get anymore and I'll have to deal with that. I don't want more, but something keeps forcing me to try anyway


 No.3211

>>3210

>I want to stop, but when I'm drunk all I want is more.

I know this feeling. Porn does the same thing.


 No.3212

>>3211

I'm gonna check out some porn and go to bed tbh. I'll at least be glad when I wake up and don't see 12 more bottles of wine on their way to my house. 1 bottle left, and that's the end of it. As long as I don't keep trying to order more I'll be done with it. If Sunday is as good as I'm hoping I won't even try.


 No.3213

How messed up is this? I received my 12 bottles of wine on the 20th. I've gone through almost 12 bottles since then.


 No.3214

I also contacted my old drug dealer to buy molly but he was out


 No.3215

>>3214

dude. You need some help.

Like, that is so far from healthy.

Do you have a buddy you can call when you want to do these things?


 No.3216

>>3215

I don't have anyone really. But I'm tired of not remembering any of the stuff I said or did the night before so this has to stop. I have 1 more bottle, and then no more. I'm gonna delete my account on the website where I got the stuff right now. This stuff is seriously destructive.


 No.3217

>>3210

The body and subconscious forms a memory/habit from everything you do, you could call this how to make permanent addictions 101. Drugs are an absolute no no, That's rule number 1. Anything that you do repetitively becomes a habit. Rule number 2 is very simple; Don't do what you don't want to become. Do you understand?

1. No drugs

2. Don't do bad things even one time.

Whatever you do, you will become, so be good.

I don't have to be rude, I can be nice too, but stop being sissies, be men. The truth is tough love, and I'm tired of reading excuses from all of you. If you can't do what you are supposed to do as men, even If you are lucky enough to get a good woman and make a family. It might fail because bad things happen in life. You have to be as strong and as good as you can be to keep it together. Stop doing bad things and in time you will have nothing to complain about, please. :^)

Meditation twice every day no excuses, no excuses. Meditation instead of drinking hex, if you put your brain to sleep you can't think about being good, when you are drunk you will be bad. tbh

>>3212

>>3213

>>3214

>>3216


 No.3218

>>3216

Definitely stay away from drugs. Alcohol might bring you pleasure and want to bring more pleasure due to drugs but any drugs are completely destructive spiritually and neurologically. It's Satan taking hold. Be wary.


 No.3219

I'll pray for you hex. Finally got the Aaronic. You need to take care from Satan's influence, it's drawing near but I know the Spirit's with you.


 No.3220

>>3219

Just did, you're in my thoughts brother.


 No.3221

>>3218

No it's none of that imaginary crap you just said. It's you and your weakness. Go ask the top guy at your church why he's in that spot? Because they won't give that job to a sissy. You don't like the word sissy, pick a better one for me to use. Only you can decide if you are a man or a woman. I'm sorry if you don't like that but it's the truth.

If you want me to work with you, I want you to meditate twice a day for 10 minutes. Sit comfortably so you won't go to sleep, close your eyes, and let whatever happens happen, just breath and don't move. Set an alarm for 10 min.

You won't like what you see at first but don't give up, keep the meditation everyday, I promise it will help you. I would advise you to keep a journal of your meditation appointments, after each time write a paragraph or two, so you can track your progress.

No excuses :^)

I'll know when we can start talking again.


 No.3222

Don't punish yourselves, just do the meditation, no excuses. :^)

…and we'll talk about it later.


 No.3223

>>3222

In religious terms, it's Satan taking a chance at his weak moments. Why such the focus on meditation though? I practice it sometimes but I need to up it.


 No.3224

A resisted temptation is not a sin, but a test of virtue.

~Thomas Mann

……

Covenants

Boyd K. Packer

Of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles

It was an experience to hear President Joseph Fielding Smith pray. Even when he was past ninety he would pray that he would “keep his covenants and obligations and endure to the end.” The word covenant is the subject of my message.

The Lord told the ancients, “With thee will I establish my covenant.” (Gen. 6:18.) He told the Nephites, “Ye are the children of the covenant.” (3 Ne. 20:26.) And he described the restored gospel as the “new and … everlasting covenant.” (D&C 22:1; italics added.) Every Latter-day Saint is under covenant. Baptism is a covenant; so is the sacrament. Through it we renew the covenant of baptism and commit to “always remember him and keep his commandments.” (D&C 20:77.)

https://www.lds.org/general-conference/1990/10/covenants?lang=eng

>>3223

Meditation is the mirror of your soul, and when you sit quietly with yourself , you are forced to polish the mirror.

……

When you get what you want in your struggle for self. And the world makes you king for a day. Then go to the mirror and look at yourself. And see what that man has to say. For it isn't a man's father, mother or wife. Whose judgement upon him must pass. The fellow whose verdict counts most in life. Is the man staring back in the glass. He's the fellow to please, never mind all the rest. For he's with you clear to the end. And you've passed your most dangerous, difficult test. If the man in the glass is your friend. You can fool the whole world down the pathway of years. And get pats on the back as you pass. But the final reward will be heartache and tears. If you've cheated the man in the glass.


 No.3225

It's happening

Even through all my failure my plan is working. I've gotten closer to multiple girls just today. I'm starting to build a circle of female friends, and it's amazing. After church I sat with the girl that rejected me at our potluck and talked to her for a bit. Then during the devotional broadcast I sat with another girl and she wanted to sing along with the hymns. She noticed me looking at her hymn book, and shared it with me. So we got real close together and sang along with the hymns. At first we were the only ones in the chapel singing along, but then the bishop and the other people behind us joined in. I got a girls # today, and spent time with her after church. And the girl I minister to is always super happy to see me. Hugs every time.

I think I've finally started to accomplish what I was hoping to achieve in the beginning when I first started introducing myself to every girl in the ward. I'm finally starting to make real connections with them.


 No.3226

Last bottle. This will be over after tonight.


 No.3227

>>3226

I was wrong. I have a bottle and my parents have a bottle. The wine my parents drink is some nasty ass shit. Way too sweet.


 No.3228

>>3226

>>3227

Black out black out


 No.3229

>>3226

I'm glad. Shit dude you need to lay off the booze ASAP. The molly thing really got me worried. I had to pray for you.


 No.3230

>>3229

Don't worry too much, it's over now. I got rekt last night off all that alcohol and passed out. No more.


 No.3231

>>3229

>The molly thing really got me worried

It just shows how destructive alcohol is. The only way that even came into my mind again was because I was so far gone that I didn't know what I was doing.


 No.3232

Yeah, I'm glad that you're cutting that crap out. Do it less often, and whenever you drink, just have a beer or so.

On another topic, I'm terrible at coming onto women. At least online. I talk way too much.


 No.3233

>>3232

Off-topic, look at this Discord conversation from an unknown background that a friend sent to me:

edit: lets try to keep this board cleaner than this

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 No.3234

>>3233

All that does is make me want to kill every single non white person in my country. Edited to remove because it's extremely vulgar and this is a safe for work board, or was intended to be.


 No.3235

>>3234

Yeah, it was very, very ill.


 No.3236

>>3234

Also found something out, outside the framework of religion. Or somewhat. Ever since I started to be a nicer person to people I've only got bad results. Mostly to the opposite sex, as in a good person. All that happens when you're good to other people is that you're thrown into a pile of shit. I learned this the hard way in the 5th grade and only baptism helped me free myself from that restraint. Maybe it's time to lock myself in that restraint again. People are inherently selfish and being good will just lead you to get hurt massively.


 No.3237

>>3236

There's no room for kindness in this world.


 No.3238

File: 9c724c24d41208c⋯.jpg (147.21 KB, 959x960, 959:960, 9c724c24d41208ce923001b791….jpg)

>>3235

>>3236

>>3237

You're wrong.


 No.3239

>>3238

When I was an egoist I was never attacked. Now that I'm nice like I used to be when I was a kid, it's like people are out to get me like attack dogs. There's no room for altruism and kindness in this world.


 No.3240

>>3239

So you need to feel sorry for yourself today, too much tension. Get some sleep you'll feel better tomorrow.

Don't forget your meditation, it's the highest form of prayer, it's important.

Take care


 No.3241

>>3237

>>3236

>>3239

I disagree. I don't have much to say right now, but I do have a scripture to share.

https://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/3-ne/12?lang=eng


 No.3242

>>3241

Paul, Apostle of Christ (2018) - HD 1080p

Rating: 6.7

Storyline

The story covers Paul going from the most infamous persecutor of Christians to Jesus Christ's most influential apostle.

https://afdah.org/watch?v=Paul,_Apostle_Of_Christ_2018#video=Exb2jz9Qws4Fl3iR4_ZDZpqydh6vjMNQldWa

Don't forget your meditation, it's the highest form of prayer, it's important.

Take care


 No.3243

More whining incoming: I can't seem to leave coffee. I just want to have a fun day without being tired so I just drink it. Also, the vape kills my brain fog so I just use it too.

I'm buying 1.5mg vape juice instead of 3mg tomorrow. Maybe that'll help a bit. But the coffee….I don't know, maybe I should just stop without thinking, start being a zombie a few days. It's the only way I'll gain weight and start thinking more clearly. This is cancer. It's terrible, I need to get it out of the way


 No.3244

>>3243

Use caffeine pills.

decrease dosage over time

Even if you keep using them, its better than coffee.


 No.3245

This has been a long week so far. I went to look back at how many days I've been clean off of alcohol, and it's only been 4 days. It feels like 2 weeks. I have the urge to get more especially because holidays are coming, and holidays are generally tough for me. I know I have to fight it though.


 No.3246

i just stopped to check in and let you know i was alive and well. my back/leg troubles are mysteriously absent, as if nothing ever happened a few months ago. i've all but abandoned the chans, and am keeping occupied with video games instead. tbh, i'm happy with the decision.

>>3245

do the best you can, hex. if my drug of choice were legal and available for purchase in every store, i think i would probably struggle with it more than i do.

>>3225

>I think I've finally started to accomplish what I was hoping to achieve in the beginning when I first started introducing myself to every girl in the ward

nice. it's good to see hard work pay off.

>>3174

>I need to be around better people

underrated


 No.3247

>>3245

I well, left coffee for two days and it's worked well. My thinking is way much more clear. However, I caved in with vaping and even bought a new one. I think I'll just use it whenever I do have severe brain fog and put it away whenever I don't need it.

It's just perfect for napping, but other than that, it's fucking trash. Absolute trash.

>>3246

Chans are toxic, mostly with all the pornography and degeneracy in there. I'm glad that your pain issues are gone. It sure took a while.


 No.3248

Currently posting at a Mormon friend's bday party while the food settles down, I ate way too much. I'll probably sing later


 No.3249

>>3246

>my back/leg troubles are mysteriously absent, as if nothing ever happened a few months ago

Glad to hear that.

>if my drug of choice were legal and available for purchase in every store

If I had access to the other stuff I wanted I'd be so much worse off than I am right now. Now it's just resisting the urge to do it all over again. And it's tempting with the holiday coming up. I have a really hard time during the holidays, and I'll have time off work. I hope Sunday makes me feel a bit better than I did today. Work was pretty miserable, and it felt like it dragged on forever.


 No.3250

>>3249

It's still Saturday though! So that's a good thing, the day's still going on.

I'm happy that everyone here's doing relatively well, and if there's a small misstep, it's quickly corrected. Our lives are better as Latter-day Saints, our mistakes would go on and on if we didn't have the safety net of God.


 No.3251

Just paid off my cell phone all at once instead of doing payments, hopefully this encourages me to save money rather than waste it on bullshit like alcohol. $1000 out the window just like that. That one hurts. That's more than I made on my last paycheck.

>>3250

>and if there's a small misstep, it's quickly corrected

My misstep was a pretty big one that lasted a couple weeks. I'm going to really focus on not letting that happen again, and try to get myself back together. Start achieving goals again, instead of making them and then not even attempting to achieve them. My schedule is making it difficult since it's so inconsistent, but if I could get into a routine I think my happiness would increase. The part that will be difficult is that this routine will have to come at the cost of sleep. Getting out of bed in the morning has been so hard lately for multiple reasons. Not getting enough sleep, depression, etc.


 No.3252

>>3251

>Just paid off my cell phone all at once

Bastards would only offer me $20 for my iphone 5 too. Looks like I have a new mp3 player. The last time I traded in an iphone I got $200. I bet the thing is worth more than $20 in scrap material.


 No.3253

>>3251

>hopefully this encourages me to save money rather than waste it on bullshit

besides the new otterbox i just bought for that old iphone. the otterbox for the iphone 5 makes it a tank, mine was completely destroyed from years of abuse but the phone came out of it looking like it was fresh out of the box. i threw that case away because it was falling apart, and i was expecting to sell the phone but spending $20 to give my mp3 player some fall protection seems like a decent idea. i actually like this idea better than using my new phone as my mp3 player when i work out since i worry about it falling out of my pocket when i do leg curls and stuff. my new phone can be my mp3 player at work where i don't have to worry about it falling out of my pocket.


 No.3254

I've decided to create a new lifting routine. I used to do this pretty often when I first started lifting, and I'd switch things up to keep it fresh. Once I got serious with lifting, I stopped creating new routines and just mixed it up on the fly. This was OK when I was dedicated. I'm not anymore, so I think the solution to that is investing the time to create a routine. The problem I've been facing lately is that if I do end up working out, I try to come up with a routine on the fly and end up not doing as much as I should. Or, even worse, not doing it at all.

So right now I'm going to set a routine that goes for 6 days. I may tone it down, and add in cardio later but for now I need to get on a very strict routine. I also need to set a time when I go to bed every night. I'm thinking right after work I'll make some herbal tea, and maybe take a melatonin supplement. I'll have computer time while the tea cools enough to drink, and after I finish the cup I will go to bed immediately. I'd say 1:30 AM at the latest. This means I should be in bed early enough to get up around 9:30-10 AM. I should not be in bed later than 10 AM. In the morning I will make breakfast, take my pre-workout supplement, and begin scripture study.

This should give me 30 minutes to 1 hour of scripture study per morning, and leave me with plenty of time to work out afterwards. After that I will still have time to shower, and relax in front of my computer for a little while before I have to leave for work. If I could accomplish this, it would change things quite a bit. Lately I get out of bed between 11:30-12:30 PM. Usually on the later end of this range This schedule change would give me a couple extra hours.


 No.3255

>>3254

Chris_Ryan's_SAS_Fitness_Book.epub

7.5 MB

Chris Ryan has reached peak physical condition. After years of intensive training by experts in the SAS he has learnt to attain a level of total fitness that improves his performance in all aspects of life. Now he has adapted techniques and honed his routines to devise a three-month programme that's both extremely easy and effective for males of all ages and lifestyles. He combines endurance training and work-outs for strength and suppleness with a guide to nutrition and all-round health maintenance for men. All the exercises will be photographed in full colour in this easy-to-follow guide. He also provides training programmes for longer and shorter timescales, specifically aimed at weight loss or weight gain, in addition to giving nutritional advice from the experts to maximise the success of the exercise plans.

https://rapidgator.net/file/caed0d9332b2d4831381150c07a0c4b3/Chris_Ryan's_SAS_Fitness_Book.epub.html


 No.3257

File: cd3de6f95be3036⋯.jpg (100 KB, 747x810, 83:90, Planks.jpg)

I think the church should really encourage getting fit.

In my singles ward 65% of the women are obese.

only about 30% of the guys are what I would call overweight.

I would rather be single than marry a morbidly obese woman. And it is not just the aesthetics of it. It is a reflection of how they care for themselves and the effort that they put into things.


 No.3258

Did I just get asked on a date? That girl I minister to asked me to go to breakfast with her sometime during the week possibly Thursday. I told her that sounded great, and she said she would text me. I'm still trying to process everything that has happened. All I know is things are changing for me with girls.


 No.3259

>>3258

>All I know is things are changing for me with girls.

Your updates have been motivating me to do the same.

I sat next to a girl in sacrament and shared a hymn book.


 No.3260

>>3259

>I sat next to a girl in sacrament and shared a hymn book.

That's how it starts. Keep doing it. I've tried to sit with a different girl every week for months now, and I'm finally starting to see the results.


 No.3261

Is it bad that even though a girl wants to go to breakfast with me that my mind won't get off of this other girl? You would think this would be the sign I needed to move on from her, but my feelings are stronger than ever that there is something I need to do


 No.3262

Shid I haven't been here for a while

>>3251

>$1000 out the window just like that.

Damn, that was expensive. That's why I always settled for cheap booze if the purpose was to get drunk.

>I'm going to really focus on not letting that happen again, and try to get myself back together. Start achieving goals again, instead of making them and then not even attempting to achieve them.

After I started to quit or lower my nicotine intake and caffeine intake I've been more goal oriented. It feels amazing. It's also the meds working I guess? But you can make it, just give it a bit of time and focus on yourself and nobody else. Praise yourself as a demigod, as blasphemous as that sounds. We're going to be Gods eventually.

>Getting out of bed in the morning has been so hard lately for multiple reasons. Not getting enough sleep, depression, etc.

Feel ya.

>>3252

I have an iPhone 6 just laying there, not getting sold, accumulating dust. They would probably give me a good 300 but I just don't ever focus on getting money since I have all my needs paid for at the moment. Which is kind of embarrassing, but my parents are telling me to focus on college instead of getting a job, with the depression it would be too much to do both things at once, according to them and my history with the disease.

>>3253

I encourage you getting a Sansa Clip.

>>3254

Man, I need to begin to lift. But first I need to gain optimal weight, BMI wise, since I'm skinny. After that and nicotine for fat burning, I'm good to go, supplementing with creatine and protein shakes, ready to get toned again.

>>3258

Oh wow, go for it man. Experiences are what shape the brain, and they create new ways of being/doing. So definitely go for it.

>>3259

>>3260

I haven't tried this but I haven't focused on women. I lost my interest in the girl that was underage for me and we barely said hi to each other the other day. I think she didn't even say hi, or maybe we just said hey for a split second.

>>3261

Well, I had a date that wanted to be turned into a three-way date which was fucking retarded, but my date with that girl, well, I had no feelings for her at all so the date was useless.

I don't get much feelings anymore for some reason. I don't know if the Spirit is trying to get me to focus on other things.


 No.3263

>>3262

>Damn, that was expensive. That's why I always settled for cheap booze if the purpose was to get drunk.

That was for my cell phone not alcohol. I only spent like 100 on alcohol

>I encourage you getting a Sansa Clip.

iPhone isn't great but it will do the job since I have it laying around. I also have a zune laying around, but the OS is primitive compared to iOS. And the screen is smaller.


 No.3264

Hearing against the thot that went full #MeToo got really complicated. I'm done with the hearing, no longer participating in it. However, there was collateral damage, they're talking to four other people beside me, one including the thot, and two friends. One friend has a minor role and won't mind it. The other's a fucking woman that got me pissed off for involving her but they needed evidence or else my statements would be floating in air. She already got pissed off that she needs to go to a hearing, but she said she was sorry for getting pissed and that she does it cause she likes me as a friend.

I don't give two fucks about her, however. I'm using her as a means for my own ends, and I don't mind ending up friendless for my own causes since I'm somewhat of a misogynist unless it comes to Mormon women. I've always been an individual man and never really liked having friends because I don't like getting out of the house unless it's for ecclesiastical activities.

Got pissed off with the girl over the phone and needed to listen to her five minute WhatsApp voice recordings. I skipped over some, but I made it clear that she was going to go to the hearing.


 No.3265

I seriously hate like 95% of women and I woke up irritable.


 No.3266

>>3265

Forgot a medication so it makes sense. The anger scared her and she's complying with my wishes.


 No.3268

File: cc3f6883e1b6e6d⋯.jpg (2.17 MB, 3264x2448, 4:3, 20181211_153937.jpg)

>>3257

I met a general authority who encourages frequent exercise and actually told us that he will sometimes see the apostles in the gym at church headquarters. Its Elder Jörg Klebingat of the seventy. Hes great and sadly only has one general conference talk. I wish he had more.


 No.3269

I may have made a mistake. I e-mailed the girl at work, gave her my personal #, and told her to get in contact so we can talk about some things. I should probably avoid this girl, but my co-workers kinda talked me into it. She is really cute, but worth the trouble of trying to fix her cultural marxism infected mind? Probably not. Maybe we can be friends though. Maybe it will make things interesting, or maybe it will make things worse for me. I'm already around a bunch of terrible influences. Supposedly this girl doesn't drink or do drugs though, so she has that going for her. I suppose I should remember the scripture

>30 But their scribes and Pharisees murmured against his disciples, saying, Why do ye eat and drink with publicans and sinners?

>31 And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick.

>32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.


 No.3270

should I date a girl in a wheel chair?

she is cute and fit otherwise.

I don't think it would go anywhere though. I want to be physical and intimate after marriage and I think you would need working legs to do that.

>>3269

What are your intentions?

You know what they are. Just be honest to yourself.


 No.3271

>>3270

>should I date a girl in a wheel chair?

absolutely not


 No.3275

>>3269

Use a free app like talkatone and give out that number. Never give any personal information ever to a female. Always have an email for spam. :^)

Don't forget your meditation

postmodern egalitarian relativism

https://youtu.be/HVZe65dVIZI


 No.3277

File: 8cf248624d6e258⋯.jpg (873.63 KB, 1827x2699, 1827:2699, 8cf248624d6e2585f80bb244c4….jpg)

>>3270

>What are your intentions?

>You know what they are. Just be honest to yourself.

My intentions are to talk to this cute girl and if things go well we will gas the kikes and start the race war together.


 No.3278

>>3277

So far the entirety of our interactions through texting have been all business. It's good though. She is responsible for a company wide standard, and she now knows she has an ally in our building at the implementation level of the standard. Until now the standard has not been implemented as well as it should be, and she made that known to me in our earlier interactions in person. I've been ruthlessly imposing the standard onto these people by force. They resist it at every step, but I've been winning the battles slowly. They stop resisting as they see that their resistance is futile. Every day they come back and I've reverted things back to the standard, and they eventually give up.


 No.3279

>>3269

Hmm, I would've said that you could've given her number straight up but this probably worked out. Friends is always a good idea, then escalating, cause you can see if she's a good catch. I usually get bored of women fast when we're friends and the attraction is lost.

>>3270

I don't see much of a problem with this.

>>3278

Ask her out casually somewhere, for coffee maybe? (rip Word of Wisdom, in other news, I stopped vaping but I still drink coffee. I don't give a shit anymore and Heavenly Father probably doesn't give two fucks about people drinking tea or coffee, even if I'm rationalizing it)


 No.3280

>>3279

>Ask her out casually somewhere

I've been thinking I'll ask her when she takes lunch at work, and see if we can meet up at the cafeteria to have lunch together. She works 1st shift so I'd have to get to work pretty early but I think it's a good idea. It's about the safest date we could possibly have. The cafeteria at work makes some really good food too. They contract it out to a professional catering company.


 No.3281

>>3280

Might be a good idea indeed. I was thinking of somewhere more secluded and not in a work environment, but since I'm not a person that's at work, what I can think about only is eating together at college.

That would kinda work I suppose? It's good for rapport, then eventually asking her out would help


 No.3282

>>3281

>I was thinking of somewhere more secluded and not in a work environment

My thought is that if I make it easy enough, then the likelihood of rejection is very small. Then from there once she knows the kind of guy I am, she will be more willing to hang out outside of work.


 No.3283

>>3282

That's actually brilliant. Never thought about it. A good way to also make her laugh and make small talk.


 No.3284

Off topic (or on topic)?

We apparently have a Heavenly Mother, according to early Mormon fathers and theologists. She's related to Asherah, Yahweh's wife, as well as Sophia or Wisdom from Proverbs.

Nothing to do with Mary, though.


 No.3285

>>3283

The less pressure the date is the more likely it is to happen. That's why double dates are always a good way to get a first date, but since this is a girl I know at work the next best thing is getting something at work together. We will both be there anyway, and there is no real pressure on her.

>>3284

>We apparently have a Heavenly Mother

I've heard about this but wish people wouldn't put much emphasis on it. It doesn't matter much in the grand scheme of things given that we don't pray to or worship her. All it really accomplishes is muddying things up for us. Anti-Mormons use it as a way to call us pagans


 No.3291

>>3285

Seems that workplaces have their certain advantages. It's a bit similar in college in free periods with girls you barely know but are getting or trying to get to know.

>I've heard about this but wish people wouldn't put much emphasis on it.

As far as I know, not many LDS know about this at all, it's a sort of doctrine or theology that's pushed aside, but it's logical given the premortal and postmortal lives and what's said in the Pearl of Great Price as well as Smith's and Pratt's interpretation of Mormon theology.


 No.3292

>>3285

Funny thing is, anyone that believes in the Trinity as three in one but not three in one is more pagan than us. We go by Biblical standards. Restorationism is the best thing that could happen to Christianity.

Not gonna lie, I appreciate and consider Islamic theology wonderful. They sing their Scripture, they base their entire way of life around it, they don't believe in free will (being honest I don't believe in free will) and have an all-pervading Allah that's apparently our same God, Yahweh. I would, however, never join a religion that never got out of its violent phase, inherently deathly, and spreading like powerful leukemia. Interdenominationally they kill each other due to misinterpreting Scripture. Sectarians kill the peaceful ones, and the peaceful ones decapitate us Christians. It's a sad religion, as aesthetic as Arabic can be.

Never met one in my life though, some look like Mexicans.

If you consider it quite well, we basically base ourselves in the most correct Bible interpretation possible: the simplest and most obvious one. No passages prove a "Trinity", just the Godhead, Jesus was made in Heavenly Father's image, therefore, Heavenly Father has a body just like Christ and like us. He's also a Heavenly Father that knows and respects our free will, and weeps and gets sad when we disappoint him. He's like us. That's what I like about our Church. Biblically accurate.


 No.3293

I have such a strong feeling I have to do something that seems crazy to me after what happened last time. I have a strong feeling I have to ask this girl if she wants to visit this older couple with me. The older couple are friends of ours, and they are going on a retirement mission soon. They are awaiting their mission call, and I got back in contact with them through her.

The only problem is that last time I asked this girl out I got rejected. I'm pretty sure you all know that story now and how catastrophic a rejection it was. This seems like such an innocent request, and it seems like something that should be so easy for us to do together since she visits them often anyway. Their house is right between our houses, so we could meet up there. Absolutely no pressure on her. Would she strike me down for this request? If so, I suppose I know my answer about whether it's worth trying with her.

I'm pretty vulnerable right now already, so this seems like such a bad idea. I don't need to be shaken anymore.

>>3291

>As far as I know, not many LDS know about this at all

I've heard some people add it to their testimony, but they were older members of the ward. The younger ones were my age, and left the ward. It has been a while.


 No.3295

>>3293

This post is exactly what I mean by what I said in this post >>3294

I need to purge this weakness from myself and do what needs to be done.


 No.3299

>>3293

Go for it, but if it doesn't work out, quit there. I usually try about 2 times (three tops) for something to work out. If it doesn't, well, then I move on. But I keep trying if the feeling is still chasing me.


 No.3301

>>3299

I did it. Haven't heard back so far.


 No.3302

>>3301

Just joined an "anti-censorship" Christian Discord and I'm about to get kicked out for the sole fact of being a Mormon. These are Catholics, Orthodox and a Protestant minority. No shit, lol. MUH MARY.

>Believing in the fucking Trinity when not even Luther believed in it.


 No.3303

PRAISE MARY DUDE YEAH

Best joke ever:

>Catholics interpreting the Bible


 No.3304

>>3303

>>3302

Other Christians have been well brainwashed to oppose us by their pastors who would lose their cushy life if we drew away their members. These guys drive fancy cars, have huge houses, and collect plenty of cash from these people so of course they have to paint us as the worst of the worst. Our church runs on unpaid volunteer work and uses the money raised from tithing for charity and the furthering of the work through building temples, churches, funding activities/institute and sending missionaries around the world. It says a lot about our church when our bishops have to have a career outside of being a bishop rather than being a career clergyman.


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