http://8ch.net/leftypol/res/465660.html#q465725
http://8ch.net/leftypol/res/465660.html#q465744
Whenever you play the reality card and point out the facts to SJW liberals, they can't help but play the race/"nationalist" card. That's the only card they have left in their deck. And I consider myself a liberal. A libertine in fact. And I abhor nationalism. National borders are just imaginary lines. But I don't want to be shot up or blown up by a bunch of Islamist nutjobs. And I'm not down with the political correctness bullshit that is destroying the modern left.
/leftypol/ also goes on to justify suicide bombing as military tactic. Ow the edge.
My stance is this: If you are Muslim and you are not a terrorist, don't support terrorists, willing to cooperate with authorities to identify terrorists ("snitch") and don't support Sharia Law and accept our liberal democratic way of life, you're welcome to live among us.
If you're a terrorist, terrorist sympathizer, terrorist enabler or support Sharia Law, we don't want you here. And unfortunately a large percentage of Muslims in the west fall within this camp.
It is a moral dilemma sure. I don't want to deny the good Muslims a chance of life here in the west. But there are lots of fucking crazy Muslims in the Middle-East, North Africa and the Indian Subcontinent (ie. Pakistan, Bangladesh, some parts of India) who are terrorists and terrorist sympathizers and want to establish Sharia Law and a Caliphate in the west. But when you have a bag of M&Ms and 35% of those M&Ms will kill you, what do you do? STOP EATING M&Ms.
I think it's perfectly justified for France and Sweden to put a severe limitation or moratorium on Muslim immigration right now. Even if we manage to somehow weed out all the nutjobs and accept only moderates, keep in mind that many of these Muslim youths committing these terrorist atrocities came from moderate families. They were radicalized by ISIS via social media. ISIS reaches out to disenfranchised Muslim kids in the west via Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, Myspace, you name it.
So what happens when you have mass Muslim immigration + poverty in Muslim ghettos caused by neo-liberal capitalism + extremist imams spreading propaganda in Mosques + ISIS/ISIL propagandists recruiting disenfranchised western Muslim youth on social media? A powder keg waiting to fucking explode.
If ISIS/ISIL is going to attack us, it makes absolutely zero fucking sense to import more Muslims. During World War II, we had a moratorium on Italian, Germany and Japanese immigration. Even though there were plenty of Italians, Germans and Japanese people who abhorred Mussolini fascism, the Nazis and the far-right Japanese Empire respectively.