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• Spam

• Post cuckshit, "commies BTFO," or any of that kind of shit

• Deny the problems of climate change

• Attempt to cloak reactionary politics in left-wing rhetoric (Str.asserism, "Nazbol", National "Socialism," Zionism, "Die cis scum"/"Kill all white men" SJW shit)

• Incite specific acts of terrorism or similar acts (use your head, don't act like a fed)

• Holocaust denialism

• Post porn depicting underage (including drawings)

Reply to this thread with your requests for wordfilters, board settings, banners, flags, etc.

Flags must be 20x16, banners are 300x100

https://8ch.net/log.php?board=leftpol - BOARD LOG

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/freedu/ needs banners! / /freedu/ discussion

Hi. I'm the new BO of /freedu/. I would like to revive the board on the lines of what it always has been; a hub of leftist knowledge and a means of free education. However, I've noticed that the board only has five banners. I'd like to at least double it. If any of you are interested, feel free to provide some banners.

Due to 8chan's limitations, banners cannot exceed 500 kb, must be a PNG, JPG, or GIF, and also must be exactly 300x100 pixels. That is 300 pixels wide, by 100 pixels tall.

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I started reading Thomas More's Utopia recently and was wondering if we could get a thread going about left wing literature. Anyone else read this and have thoughts on the book? Can it be considered proto-socialist?

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What are your thoughts on the LGBTQ+ discourse? I think unanimously we agree we have no problem with lgbtq people, but I get the impression from a lot of people that their entire identity is based around their sexuality or gender- it defines them, and that seems dangerous in regards to class consciousness/solidarity within the the working class. I do understand they face certain obstacles, but we cannot ignore the progress we've made in Western civilization- Europe/America are some of the best places on earth for this community. This narrowing in on identity and (unintentional) bourgeois individualism just seems counter productive, the discourse often seems absolutely pointless- at least from what I've seen in my own life. I believe there are some merits to identity politics (ie the black struggle in America) but this just makes me feel uneasy. I guess to put it harshly, I could sum up by saying "I don't give a fuck about your queerness- let's talk about wage labour or something that matters."

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The liberal mindset

So what is the mindset of liberals, especially American liberals?

They seem to be far to the right of socdems and rely heavily on idpol and make cults of personality around any one who's anti-trump, dem or otherwise.

How do they still have a large chunk of minority support even though Obama deported so many people and didn't do much about mass police brutality?

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Anyone else get frustrated at the class cuckery when debating reactionaries?







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OC thread

Post your new creations here.

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Political Orientation Tests

ITT: We post results of political orientation tests we took and recommend new/good ones and discuss the results. I will start with a good old 8values test.

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What would Karl Marx write today?


/leftpol/, renounce leftism and become a marxist-capitalist-activist.It's the only pragmatic and pure ideology there is today.

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Daily News Thread 3/19

Trump Prohibits U.S. Purchases of Venezuelan Cryptocurrency

President Donald Trump banned U.S. purchases of a cryptocurrency the Venezuelan government is rolling out, as part of a campaign to pressure the government of President Nicolas Maduro.


Explosion injures 2 in Austin, Texas, where a serial bomber is still at large

Two men have been taken to the hospital after a blast rocked a neighborhood in Austin, Texas. The police have warned residents to stay away from the area.


The UK and EU agree terms for Brexit transition period

The UK and EU have agreed on a "large part" of the agreement that will lead to the "orderly withdrawal" of the UK.


Cuba to Send 100 Doctors to Kenya

Kenya has announced that they will bring 100 Cuban medical specialists to assist county hospitals after Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta ended a short visit to the Caribbean island.


Facebook Post Pushes Norway Government to Brink of Collapse

Norway’s minority government faces a potential collapse as the opposition seeks the ouster of the polarizing, anti-immigration Justice Minister Sylvi Listhaug.


Putin Calls For Unity, Cooperation after Russia Election Win

Vladimir Putin won a 4th term in office, keeping him as Russia’s president for six more years.


Support for Japan’s Abe Plummets to Record Low in Two Polls

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe saw his support tumble in weekend opinion polls as anger continues to rise over a cronyism scandal.


US will pander to Saudi ambitions during crown prince’s grand tour

From the moment he touches down in Washington on Monday, and for the next three weeks, the doors of the most powerful people in America will open before Mohammed bin Salman, the 32-year-old crown prince and de facto ruler of Saudi Arabia.


Trump Calls for Death Penalty for Drug Traffickers to Combat Opioids

President Donald Trump called for drug dealers to receive the death penalty in some cases as part of his administration’s effort to address the opioid crisis.


The Ex-Con Coal Baron Running for Senate in West Virginia

Don Blankenship was jailed for contributing to the worst coal mine disaster in a generation. Now he’s after his nemesis Joe Manchin’s job.


Pressure mounts on Zuckerberg to face data breach concerns

Facebook founder and chief executive Mark Zuckerberg is facing intensified calls to appear in person at investigations into the social network's conduct.


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Being Pro China

>be me

>took "Yellow Pill"

>noticed low crime rate, low poverty in Irvine, CA

>noticed multiple Asian immigrants in Irvine, CA

>noticed low crime rate in Japan

>noticed low crime rate in China

>noticed low crime rate in Taiwan

>notice slightly higher crime rate in Korea

>noticed HUGE crime rate in Philippines

>noticed hiphop ghetto culture popular in Korea, Philippines

>Confucianist influence strongly exists in China, Japan, Taiwan and Korea

>Confucianist influence nonexistent in Philippines

>Confucianist influence decreasing in Korea

>Christianity more popular in Philippines + Korea.

>Read Analects of Confucius

>Read Buddhist Scripture

>Confucianism and Buddhism promote family unity + responsible socialism typically via a state

>I post my opinions on leftpol

>get banned

fucking snowflakes

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The English Civil War

Who would have been the Marxist Choice in the English Civil War?

Like i would have to Assume it would have to be Cromwell/Parliamentarians/Anti-Absolutists/Anti-Monarchists Right?

And i Assume /leftpol/ wouldnt have sided with Charles l/ll and the Absolutists

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New Years resolutions are a marketing scheme to sell fad diets, but I see no reason why leftists shouldn't pursue self-improvement. Let's have a thread to talking about getting fit, getting read, and developing skills.

I've got my current routine down, but I'm looking for books on syndicalism and communization. Can some anons help me out?

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Daily News Thread 3/22

Civil, Transit Workers Strike, Bringing Paris to a Standstill

French civil workers are staging a strike Thursday to protest President Emmanuel Macron's push for a series of controversial reforms, union workers are reporting.



John Dowd Resigns as Trump’s Lead Lawyer in Mueller Probe

John Dowd resigned as President Donald Trump’s lead attorney countering Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia probe as the inquiry into possible collusion in the 2016 election intensifies.


Trump set to announce China sanctions after IP probe

The Trump administration plans to announce sanctions against China on Thursday after determining that the country is encouraging the theft and transfer of intellectual property from US businesses.


China Considering Tariffs On US Agricultural Imports: Trade War Coming?

A global trade war is looming large as President Donald Trump gears up to announce tariffs on Chinese imports Thursday. The slated move is said to impose up to $60 billion in new duties on Chinese goods mainly targeting China’s high technology sector and intellectual property products to curb theft of U.S. technology, White House administration officials said this week.


Online Sex-Trafficking Measure Clears Congress, Goes to Trump

Congress passed a bill to combat online sex trafficking that has split the tech industry, bringing one of the first measures to weaken legal protection for websites closer to becoming law as Big Tech faces a mounting backlash in Washington.


Mexico’s Presidential Race Is Tightening, Poll Suggests

Mexico’s presidential candidate Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador is leading by only 5 percentage points in the latest opinion poll, a sign the race may be getting tighter as the July election draws near.


Ex-S. Korean President Lee arrested over corruption scandal

South Korean ex-President Lee Myung-bak was arrested and jailed early Friday over a range of corruption allegations, becoming the latest in a series of disgraced leaders embroiled in scandals and other problems after leaving office.


Peru’s Wise-Man President Toppled by Corruption He Had Pledged to End

Pedro Pablo Kuczynski resigns before impeachment, after videos.


U.S. to Shield Europe, Australia, Brazil From Steel Tariffs

The U.S. will shield a list of allies including Europe, Australia, South Korea, Argentina and Brazil from steel and aluminum tariffs that take effect on Friday, according to U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer.


House GOP to Push Farm Bill Linking Food Stamps to Job Training

House Republicans will pursue a law reauthorizing food assistance and farm subsidies without Democratic support after negotiations over changes to the so-called food-stamp program broke down, the chairman of the chamber’s Agriculture Committee said.


Turkey Gives Its Aggressive TV Censor Control Over the Web

Turkey’s parliament approved a new law on Wednesday that allows its radio and TV watchdog to vet Internet broadcasts, granting the government the ability to intervene against content by producers including Netflix.


YouTube gun ban drives bloggers to PornHub

YouTube has banned videos that show people how to manufacture or modify guns and their accessories.


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How do we express solidarity and support of equality without falling into identity politics or basic bitch progressive activism? How do we balance protecting workers against discrimination along with fighting the wider class struggle, and how do you do this without attracting identitarians who marginally care or don't at all about the class struggle? Are there some social issues that aren't worth addressing when it comes to the class struggle or are so divisive that it repels other workers, and as such should be put off until after the abolition of the class system, or must they also be addressed to ensure the integrity of solidarity? Would a good differentiation of solidarity from identity politics be that solidarity cares only about the worker, while identity politics only cares about the identity?

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Historical Time travel thread

post your time travel daydreams here

>Bring Stalin to Modern Russia "Guess Who's Back" style and he meets Putin

>Bring Plans for the RPG-16 and AK-103 to 1928 Russia, just in time for the first 5 year program.

>Transport Karl Marx to 0th century Palestine where he is mistaken for the Messiah.

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South Africa Farmers Brutality Murdered Without Convictions

So are we going to have integrity or go the way of IDpol? These people are obviously being oppressed, along with a great crime against humanity. Why isn't this news?



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Making this thread for the express purpose of discussing the Current Geo-Political Situation / Debating about / General Discussion about the D.P.R.K and so on

Preferably this thread could serve the same Purpose as the DPRK thread on /left*pol/ with it being the containment thread for discussions about the DPRK

Also if someone can get the Tank-poster whose been to NK who as far as i know still posts on the DPRK thread /left*pol/ to come here that would be nice

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To all the "not true socialism" folks: The notion that socialism is this idealized utopia and not a historically constituted process is the most idealistic argument ever. It is merely a smokescreen for an attempt to distance yourself from "scary" commies and to appeal to liberals when you use made-up buzzword like "state capitalism", what leftcoms say (what a weird form of capitalism where the law of value doesn't regulate production), "deformed worker's state", what Trots say (what a weird form of bureaucratic authoritarianism where managers are sent to labor camps when they exploit or mistreat workers), or "red fascism" (what a weird form of fascism where there is no owning class resorting to authoritarian measures to maintain property relations). For some people, all it takes is some evil guy to walk in and hijack the thing - for some this happened 1917 (anarchists), for some this happened 1924 (Trots) and for others this happened 1956 (Maoists, Hoxhaists); but the materialist reality is that the USSR and other Marxist-Leninist states were made up of millions of people, all reproducing the socialist system on a daily basis. Only through underlying internal contradictions and outside pressure did the system corrode over time, and Marxism-Leninism, like every science, studies these contradictions in order to avoid them the next time - instead of starting from scratch everytime and distancing yourself from the communist movement if a single little thing goes awry.

Uncomfortable truth for you: When right-wingers meme and laugh about the "not true socialism" leftoids, they are being 100% right. Even if we assume for the sake of argument that the USSR and other Marxist-Leninist states weren't "real" socialism, only with a completely autistic mindset one would not differentiate between a goal (socialism) and the movement and attempt to bring about such a goal (socialism as an ideology). For every person who isn't already a communist, such difference does not matter, only the practicability of an idea matters: "What's in it for me? Why would I support and ideology that fails 100% of the time?". So, don't fucking complain about being laughed out of the room whenever you say socialism has never existed.

Another uncomfortable truth: It doesn't fucking matter that you don't like the USSR, even that you think that the USSR wasn't desirable - socialism is not a fucking moral utopia. The fact that at a specific point in time, which every special snowflake arbitrarily determines, the USSR was a big bad meanie in the schoolyard, doesn't change the material base. The fact that the DPRK has a personailty cult and whacky convictions about specific things doesn't change its material base and social relations.

Stop being opportunists.

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If we're moving here we may as well bring the best part of /leftypol/ along with us.

Movies, anime, music, feels, e-celebs, internet drama, fetishes and shitposting ITT

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What Did Jim Jones Do Wrong?

Hi I'm ChristCom. I wanted to get /leftpol/'s opinion on something. Jim Jones was a Socialist traveling preacher for years, and did a lot of stuff for people in poverty. After a few bad press events where he may have been targeted unfairly. He eventually tried to start Jonestown to escape 1st world communism. He allegedly was being harassed by the CIA and the 1st world international intelligence community black ops for starting his 3rd World Christian Communist (3WCC) settlements. It's also possible he was drugged, and subjected to MK ULTRA experiments which could have helped instigate the white night tragedy. Is it possible that Jim Jones did nothing wrong?

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Why did Socialist Poland Purge its Jewish Population?


Long Story Short

>Six day war happens

>Virtually whole Socialist World Supports Arab States

>Poland Under the Pre-text of Anti-Zionism an Anti-Zionist Campaign Begins to Purge its whole Jewish/"Non-Polish" Population

Why the Fuck did Poland go full NazBol?

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I find it interesting that left to their own devices individual capitalists won't even take the minimal steps required to keep their customers alive. Not only has the USA still not adapted a set of standard warning pictographs for hazardous consumer materials like Canada and the EU (even then Canada doesn't force US imports to meet its labeling standard), but there are packaging and labels to purposely designed to confuse the consumer on what precautions they need to take. Why would you rationally want to make anti-freeze look like a drink other then marketing focus groups deduced it sells better?

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A lot of people simply treat socialism/leftism as a phase, like being into a certain genre of music or a certain subculture/lifestyle. Ex: look at eastern marxist, he went from Liberal - Conservative - Libertarian - Ancap - SocDem - Anarchist - LibSoc - Marxist - Leninist - ML - MLM - Post Keynesian/Liberal - TradCath in the span of only 2 years.

I always wondered why leftist political parties kept the youth branch (<30) separate from the main party. Now I know why. Young people are in an identity formation phase and their politics have less to do with being convinced one way or another based on a cogent argument they read (theory) than with 'trying on an identity'. This is fucking cancerous. As a guy in his late 20s I have seen lots of young people come and go from 'the movement'. I can't get emotionally invested or form friendships with any of those people even as a mentor because many of them abandon their beliefs for no apparent reason with an unbelievable flippancy.

To quote Lenin,

>"I must say that the tasks of the youth in general, and of the Young Communist Leagues and all other organisations in particular, might be summed up in a single word: learn."

TBH anyone in the high school or college age range should become temporary bordigists and work out/stay fit, go to the shooting range, practice boxing or mma (or some other combat sport/martial art) and most of all READ THEORY and learn shit so by the time you're old enough to be a serious activist you aren't an illiterate brainlet.

Hot take: no one under 25 should be allowed as permanent (or especially leadership) members of a political organization. They can be provisional members and participate in study groups, etc. If some teenager or college kid tries to join up with your group the first thing you should hand them is a reading list, and invite them to a study group. If they get bored and leave then so be it, they weren't serious to begin with. Student activists, 90% of the time, and up being unserious and cancerous to boot, prove me wrong

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On The Topic Of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Is this mans work worth reading? I remember hearing about Two Hundred Years Together and the Gulag Archipelago but the first mentioned book is used by modern day Neo-Nazis for obvious reasons. And the latter has been told to me to be fake or over-exaggerated. Mostly heard this from /leftypol/. Anyway I'm opening to reading him just wondering if it's worth it and if anybody has any history with his work.

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/leftybook/ #2 ''What is Property?'' Edition

What Is Property?: or, An Inquiry into the Principle of Right and of Government

(French: Qu'est-ce que la propriété ? ou Recherche sur le principe du Droit et du Gouvernement) is a work of nonfiction on the concept of property and its relation to anarchist philosophy by the French anarchist and mutualist Pierre-Joseph Proudhon, first published in 1840.


http://web.archive.org/web/20080830074011/http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/toc/modeng/public/ProProp.html (version with pages)

>What this thread is for?

To facilitate understanding and discussion of the text in question, as well as to provide motivation and structure to reading important texts.

>I'm a brainlet who isn't used to reading, what do I do?

Try to keep up with the reading, try to learn from others, try to always keep progressing even if you have to slow down and try to keep an open mind. Highlight important or difficult sections of the text and write down your own notes and ideas somewhere while reading. Don't hesitate to ask questions, chances are someone else is wondering about the same thing you are. Learning and good discussion are more important than false pride or embarrassment over making a basic question. The way out of brainletism is paved with books, friend. You are on the right track.

>I'm the most important academic of the 21st century and probably the millennium, I live and breathe theory, what do I do?

Remember that not everyone is going to dedicate their lives to the academic study of philosophy or society, nor do they need to. Don't take disagreement as a personal attack. Don't stultify, this is a universal learning thread. Wield your knowledge humbly and with grace, and impart it for the betterment of all. Think about the purpose, point and the effect of your posts, not merely their strict content.

>I'm a /pol/ack or a /liberty/an here to laugh at you commie cucks and to drop some red pills about the Jewish paedosexual holohoax market, what do I do?

Read the book so you can BTFO the Red Menace. You can read all about Marx's denial of Human Nature, how communism is when the state makes everyone the same and other leftist stupidity. You can laugh at dumb commies while improving yourself to better Fight the Good Fight! A win-win scenario, unlike the real world where all people(s) are permanently locked in a struggle for survival.

You only get to shitpost ITT if it is relevant to the text.


Let's do a week per chapter as a starter, with the last two longer chapters split into two weeks. Chapter 1 21.03. - Chapter 2 28.03. - Chapter 3 04.04. - Chapter 4 18.04 - Chapter 5 02.05. The schedule is merely a guideline and can be adjusted as needed.

Previous book thread:

>>27714 Wage, Labour & Capital http://archive.is/6Xl7u

>Reading is the way out of ignorance, and the road to achievement.

- Ben Carson

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Can Leftists stop allying with fucking Liberals? Like Contrapoints or H "Julian Assange is a Rapist and should be arrested" bomberguy. I mean, what the fuck is so special about either of them? They are just basic bitch socdems that occassionally goes "hey guys: Communism -wink-" and yet Socialists won't stop fellating the two. As if we needed more woke ironybugs.

This Leftist involvement in Culture war shit needs to S T O P. Its a political dead end as a few years ago you had Conservative WASP moralfaggotry as the norm, with the edgy, socially progressive liberals playing the part of "da counta colcha"

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Why do lonely 20-something males who spend time online in these places often become racists? Or were they racists before they came here? Is it simply the isolation, that they are social outcasts and can't integrate themselves? It's very rare to meet a genuinely charismatic and socially appealing racist. Why is right wing ideology so prevalent on this website, for example?

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Thoughs on Tibet?

I'm pretty lacunose when it comes to Chinese/Maoist history.

Can I get a quick rundown on tibet?

Is the whole free tibet thing a first worldist petty bourgeois concern?

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Proof of weak hands will change everything.

Mods will take this down.

everything is happening all very fast.

banking, credit, governance, law, lending, insurance.


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>post yfw this is the kind of "person" who calls you a soyboy online

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Austin Bomber/Unabomber 2.0 Strikes again

Jesus just after the tripwire bomb, now he's sending packages through the actual mail system. This is incredible.



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Why don't you support social democracy in third world countries? I mean, while we all wait for the revolution, wouldn't it be reasonable to make life under capitalism in those countries not absolute shit?

In Chile, for example, we don't have free education nor free health, our pensions are fucking shit because you're forced to put your savings into private institutions that make money speculating with YOUR money. Socialism would be the solution of course, but we're not getting there any time soon, so socdem is our only hope in the short term.

tl;dr The MOST reasonable thing to do is to advocate for socdem in third world countries while we wait for the revolution.

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I've been thinking about joining the YPG - not because I particularly care about their struggle, but because I want to be a writer one day and all the cool 20th century writers like Hemingway and Orwell fought in the international brigades in the Spanish Civil War and this war is the closest thing to it we have right now.

What do you guys think? Good or bad idea? How bad is the fighting right now? I thought ISIS was crumbling so now would be a good time to join since the worst has passed but I heard t*rks started bombarding YPG and killed a bunch of foreign volunteers recently?

Would my war memoir even sell? Do mainstream audiences, you know, run of the mill liberals etc. even care about Syrian war anymore? I only ever hear about the war from /pol/-tier autists fellating based Assad and based Putin.

I hope you don't mind me posting this here, I wanted to post this on /lit/ but I figured the thread would be deleted for off-topic quickly.

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Make 8chan /left/ again

So I just created this new board for philosophy called >>>/phl/. I've been posting on /leftypol/ and /leftpol/ for a awhile and was figuring that we should create more boards controlled my /left/ folk so that all of 8chan becomes /left/.

>inb4 monopoly

With that said I need help setting it up, hoping for it to become a place for /left/ folk to discuss serious philosophy. I have rules in place on the board only because far right people would come in and try to shit up the place. I tried claiming boards beforehand but no dice, so don't come REEEEEing about there being other philosophy boards, they're all dead and nobody can get to them. Anyway come check it out. Fuck /leftypol/.


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I need propaganda/memes to spread

Subtle > overt

Image > text

Funny > boring

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ITT post yfw Jimmy cites WSWS

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Boomerfront Taken Down Stormfaggots Irreversibly BTFO

BoomerFront Was taken down and /pol/s already bitching about "Muh Oppresive """""ANTI-WYATT"""" Communist Police State" if you guys didnt Know Yet BTW

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lefty music thread

post lefty music

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Daily News Thread 3/21

Austin Bombings Suspect Blows Himself Up As SWAT Team Closes In

The police confirmed in a press conference on Wednesday, the suspect in the Austin bombings case died when he detonated a bomb inside his own vehicle.


Austin Suspect ID'd as Mark Anthony Conditt


Kidnapped Dapchi schoolgirls freed in Nigeria

The majority of the 110 Nigerian schoolgirls kidnapped by militants in the town of Dapchi last month have been returned, the government says.


Surgeon David Nott: Hack led to Syria air strike

A British surgeon who helped Syrian doctors online has told the Telegraph he fears his computer was hacked, leading to an air strike on a hospital.


Israel Finally Owns Responsibility For Syrian Nuclear Facility Bombing, After a Decade

After almost a decade-long silence, Israel has acknowledged that its air force was responsible for blowing up the Syrian nuclear reactor called Al Kibar in the area of Deir Ezzor in September 2007.


NHS pay: Unions agree deal for 1.3 million staff

More than one million NHS staff, including nurses, porters and paramedics, are being offered increases of at least 6.5% over three years - with some getting as much as 29%.


Zimbabwe Grants Some Prisoners Amnesty as Jails Overcrowded

Zimbabwean President Emmerson Mnangagwa ordered an amnesty for prisoners including women who’re not serving life sentences and juveniles, potentially easing overcrowding in the southern African nation’s jails.


Senate Scuttles Yemen Measure as Saudi Prince Meets With Trump

The Senate scuttled a resolution opposed by the Trump administration that called on the U.S. military to stop aiding Saudi-led bombing in Yemen, acting the same day President Donald Trump and top lawmakers met with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.


Saudi Arms Buyers Won a $3.5 Billion Discount From the Pentagon

President Donald Trump says the Saudis are a “big purchaser” of American arms. A $3.5 billion discount they won from the Pentagon last year in buying an anti-missile system for $15 billion shows they’re also adept at tapping into the Pentagon’s generosity.


Trump EPA Plans New Restrictions on Science Used in Rule Making

The Environmental Protection Agency is preparing to restrict the scientific studies it uses to develop and justify regulations, making it harder to rely on research when its underlying data are shielded from view.


A Holocaust denier and former Nazi Party leader just became the Republican nominee for Congress in Chicago

Arthur Jones, a prolific Holocaust denier and former American Nazi Party leader, officially clinched the Republican Party nomination in Illinois' 3rd Congressional district in the suburbs of Chicago, CNN reported.


Justine Damond shooting: US policeman charged with murder

US prosecutors have laid a murder charge against a policeman who shot and killed an unarmed Australian woman.


Teacher who called military 'lowest of low' is fired

A Southern California teacher and councilman who sparked national outcry after saying that American troops are "the lowest of our low" was fired Tuesday evening.


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In this Fuckin News Quickie, Dick Sphincter cancels his #FartReich tour, Madd Hindlegs cucks his homie and EDL founder Tommy Robinson get his ass handed to him.

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WebM thread

Share them, also I would love some clarifications on this one.

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I don't understand this show, it's nothing but neo-lib propaganda and yet people eat it up. All of it's political episodes are just Toeing the party line and ideology while trying to avoid class issues, not even mentioning Bernie the entire election cycle. I've even had black liberals come up to me and say this proves black lower class prols have social Mobility.

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Hillary Clinton “I won the place that matter”

Hillary Clinton in her trip to India talked to a bunch of Brahmins. Saying that she “won the places that matter.”

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What does /leftpol/ think about college? What is your opinion on leftists going to college to learn about leftism? Is it easier just to study the stuff online?

Is college a scheme used to turn human beings into debt slaves and loyal servants to the neoliberal order?

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Q predicted this

>when your LARP game is so strong that it becomes real


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Why is eastern Germany so much poorer than western Germany? Is tankie socialism bad for economic growth?

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Climate Change General

Climate change and the ongoing ecological collapse of industrial civilization is the most pressing issue facing the world today. Immediate actions need to be taken to save the world from capitalism's externalities, and those actions will not come from within the capitalist system. This thread is for discussing how we can avert disaster or, if we can't, how we can adapt to climate change. Any news about the arctic, oceans, pollution, sea ice, desertification, deforestation, extinction, and other ecological troubles are welcome. The future is dim. Let's talk about it:

Explainer: The polar vortex, climate change and the ‘Beast from the East’…

The unusual weather extremes [of Europe and the Arctic] are two sides of the same coin. While much of Europe is shivering in subzero temperatures, the Arctic and eastern US have basked in unseasonably warm conditions in recent weeks.


'Global deforestation hotspot': 3m hectares of Australian forest to be lost in 15 years

Australia is in the midst of a full-blown land-clearing crisis. Projections suggest that in the two decades to 2030, 3m hectares of untouched forest will have been bulldozed in eastern Australia. The crisis is driven primarily by a booming livestock industry but is ushered in by governments that fail to introduce restrictions and refuse to apply existing restrictions. And more than just trees are at stake.


Delving Further into Uncharted Territory: Arctic Sea Ice Greatly Weakened at Start of Spring 2018

The Arctic is warming up twice as fast as the rest of the world. It has been doing so since around 2000 when Polar Amplification — the science-based expectation that the poles will warm faster than the globe as greenhouse gas levels rise — really began to kick in. So the present warm peak in the Arctic is on top of a record spate of accelerated warming. In the graphs it looks like a rocket ship taking off.


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Any fellow brits here?

What are your bets on how much longer until the next GE? Can May's shambolic government hold it together until 2022?

General UK politics discussion.

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Globalization Urban rural Divide

So if the conclusions of these people are true that Globalization will fuck over people in first world towns and villages, but be supper good for first wordlists in big Cities, how long tell Agrarian Socialism rears it’s head around. I don’t know how trsustworthy this article is. I found it after surfing the web for information on the rural urban divide, but it’s basically neoliberals admitting that there policies will fuck over everyone who dosen't live in NYC or LA.


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sargon antifa false flag

afaik antifa doesnt carry their flags around to leave behind right??

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Stop raiding /v/ you chucklefucks

Pretty much what it says in the subject, don't you have better things to do? Begging mummy and daddy for more money for example.

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Anti-Capitalist Alliance

Are NatSocs at all welcome here? Left-wing ideologies are the adversary of capitalism and I hate capitalism probably more than any of you.

It is self-evident that where this democracy rules, the people as such are not taken into consideration at all. The only thing that matters is the existence of a few hundred gigantic capitalists who own all the factories and their stock and, through them, control the people. The masses of the people do not interest them in the least. - Adolf Hitler

It is ironic that the right wing is often regarded as nationalist when they are capitalist (globalist). This is an oxymoron.

This caste has spun its web over the entire earth; capitalism recognizes no national boundaries…Capitalism has learned nothing from recent events and wants to learn nothing, because it places its own interests ahead of those of the other millions. - Joseph Goebbels

BTW I consider the USSR (post-Stalin) far superior to the Western ☘️American☘️ fun. These countries were collectivist, nationalist and somewhat traditionalist (at-least compared to the West).

Obviously I am against ☘️international Bolshevism☘️ but since the right (capitalists) are incapable of being true nationalists and are I was hoping the left had something to offer. The disgusting mess Europe has become is completely due to hyper-individualism, another aspect of "the right".

Mussolini was a Marxist writer if you didn't realize before he used elements of that ideology to create his own.

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"No Gods No Masters" documentary

A very nice documentary about the history of anarchism, watch it before youtube removes them:




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How did we lose? Anarchist vs Communist?

In the times of revolution we have to unite not fight each other.

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Daily News Thread 3/20

Texas explosions: FBI investigate new blast at FedEx plant

US authorities are investigating whether a parcel bomb that exploded at a FedEx depot in Texas on Tuesday is connected to a suspected serial bomber.


US Supreme Court Gives Green Light to Flint Water Lawsuits

The U.S. Supreme Court gave Monday the green light to two class-action lawsuits filed by residents of Flint, Michigan who are pursuing civil rights claims against local and state officials over lead contamination in the city's water supply.


Maryland high school shooter dies after exchange with officer

A student who shot and critically wounded two fellow students at a Maryland high school on Tuesday morning, has died after exchanging gunfire with a campus security officer, the county sheriff said.


Uber, Ola drivers strike in India for higher pay

Drivers for app-based cab aggregators Uber and Ola started an indefinite strike across India on Monday, demanding extra pay as a surge in the number of cabs on the two platforms, coupled with cutbacks in incentive payments, have stung drivers.


South Korean K-Pop Singers to Perform in North Korea

South Korea said Tuesday it will send a 160-member artistic group to North Korea, including about 10 celebrated K-Pop singers, for rare concerts there.


Cambridge Analytica: Mark Zuckerberg asked to appear before MPs

Facebook boss Mark Zuckerberg has been called on by a parliamentary committee to give evidence about the use of personal data by Cambridge Analytica.


FTC Probing Facebook for Use of Personal Data, Source Says

Facebook Inc. is under investigation by a U.S. privacy watchdog over the use of personal data of 50 million users by a data analytics firm to help elect President Donald Trump.


Xi Gives Stark Taiwan Warning in Hands-Off Message to Trump

Chinese President Xi Jinping warned that efforts to widen divisions with Taiwan would be “punished by history” in a nationalistic speech to mark the start of his second term.


Trump to boost exports of lethal drones to more U.S. allies

President Donald Trump will soon make it easier to export some types of lethal U.S.-made drones to potentially dozens more allies and partners, according to people familiar with the plan.


Telegram Loses Bid to Block Russia From Encryption Keys

Telegram, the encrypted messaging app that’s prized by those seeking privacy, lost a bid before Russia’s Supreme Court to block security services from getting access to users’ data, giving President Vladimir Putin a victory in his effort to keep tabs on electronic communications.


Mississippi passes strictest abortion law

Mississippi's governor has just signed into law the tightest abortion restrictions in the US.


Northern white rhino: Last male Sudan dies in Kenya

The world's last surviving male northern white rhino has died after months of poor health, his carers say.


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Recently "For the many not the few" has been a lot in my mind, it just sounds so good.

Nazis have the 14 words and I think we're messing a creed that sounds good and it's easy to memorize and make into a meme.

We have cool sounding slogans like "venceremos" "No pasaran" "Workers of the world unite" but they do not explain what socialism is all about like the 14 words do for nazis.

Another example are the 4 freedoms, they condensate liberalism very well and carry a really good symbolic value.

So "for the many not the few" sounds really good to me but I feel something is missing.

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Leftism Destroyed once and for all

My new Infograf will destroy you lefist cucks!!!!1!

how will youy every recovere??!!!?!?!?

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Alunya Thread

You see it in the title, comrades

also / leftylewd/ in general

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Thread for discussion of arms.

What are some cheap reliable guns ?

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Communist Skeleton Summoning Thread

ITT Baba Yaga/ LEL summons commie skeletons from The Bone Zone.

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>we have great examples of working socialism such as social security and public education, that's socialism

What the fuck I thought this guy was a tankie?

Watching a somewhat recent speech of his and at multiple points he explicitly refers to social programs as "socialism". Seriously, I thought Parenti was a smart guy. Has he just lost his mind in his old age?

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what are /leftpol/s opinions on

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David Graeber on the Origins of Inequality

So it looks like Graeber is working on an upcoming book which deals with the origins of inequality using the most recent anthropological evidence. This is really cutting edge stuff, and leftists should be paying attention. This is going to have implications across the political spectrum. The traditionalist golden age? Never existed. Primitive communism? Never existed. It seems like there were hierarchies which existed into human prehistory, that were often temporary and popped up on a seasonal basis. The implications of this are huge: the emergence of hierarchy, class, and inequality are likely based in ecological or cultural factors, rather than the accumulation of a material surplus.

What, then, are we to make of all of this? One scholarly response has been to abandon the idea of an egalitarian Golden Age entirely, and conclude that rational self-interest and accumulation of power are the enduring forces behind human social development. But this doesn’t really work either. Evidence for institutional inequality in Ice Age societies, whether in the form of grand burials or monumental buildings, is nothing if not sporadic. Burials appear literally centuries, and often hundreds of kilometres, apart. Even if we put this down to the patchiness of the evidence, we still have to ask why the evidence is so patchy: after all, if any of these Ice Age ‘princes’ had behaved anything like, say, Bronze Age princes, we’d also be finding fortifications, storehouses, palaces – all the usual trappings of emergent states. Instead, over tens of thousands of years, we see monuments and magnificent burials, but little else to indicate the growth of ranked societies. Then there are other, even stranger factors, such as the fact that most of the ‘princely’ burials consist of individuals with striking physical anomalies, who today would be considered giants, hunchbacks, or dwarfs….

… Quite independently, archaeological evidence suggests that in the highly seasonal environments of the last Ice Age, our remote ancestors were behaving in broadly similar ways: shifting back and forth between alternative social arrangements, permitting the rise of authoritarian structures during certain times of year, on the proviso that they could not last; on the understanding that no particular social order was ever fixed or immutable. Within the same population, one could live sometimes in what looks, from a distance, like a band, sometimes a tribe, and sometimes a society with many of the features we now identify with states. With such institutional flexibility comes the capacity to step outside the boundaries of any given social structure and reflect; to both make and unmake the political worlds we live in. If nothing else, this explains the ‘princes’ and ‘princesses’ of the last Ice Age, who appear to show up, in such magnificent isolation, like characters in some kind of fairy-tale or costume drama. Maybe they were almost literally so. If they reigned at all, then perhaps it was, like the kings and queens of Stonehenge, just for a season. - https://www.eurozine.com/change-course-human-history/

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Anti-Ancap Thread

Post ancap-related memes, screenshots of ancap logic, … ITT

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Well, /leftpol/? Looks like leftism has been debunked for good. It's time to become enlightened neoliberal capitalists now.

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My mother is a Cuban exile, which means it's possible for me to get Cuban citizenship and move to Cuba. Would I, as a socialist, be a hypocrite for not doing so? Not going to lie, it's pretty poor (though a lot richer than before the revolution) and there are still restrictions on personal freedom, which Im not a fan of.

What should I do?

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What do Leaftypol think of this dude?

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Harry Truman

Did this piece of shit ruin absolutely everything since 1945?

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What does /leftpol/ thinks about contrapoints? If you dont know who she is you can search for her in youtube.

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Capitalism Never Existed

Chomsky says capitalism never existed except in third world countries which it has been forced upon them by the first world for what I think is their natural resources. What does /leftpol/ think of this, if this was said to a modern capitalist they would probably spaz out and whatnot. I'm not saying I'm against what he's saying but proofs towards this claim are needed.


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What is /leftpol/'s thoughts on the IWW? Do they have the potential to organize the American working class into non-sellout unions or is that time long gone and now they're just a name for radlibs to do socjus work under? Has anyone here been a member or have any experience with them? Is there any other alternative in the US that encourages rank-and-file democracy and direct action?

Also, is the IWW basically anarcho-syndicalists in all but name? Because that seems to be exactly what their "Industrial Democracy" is.

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Esoteric Entity AKA The Furry Mormon An-Cap ""Debunks"" Cockshott

So the Furry An-Cap Attempted to "Debunk" Cockshott's vid on the LTV

Long Story Short The Cokshott Gang Immediately debunked his debunking in the comments so he disabled ratings and ranted about being Raided AKA people having different opinions


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Jason Unruhe

Need more pictures for my folder

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Colonel Sanders Thread

Alright Trots, redpill me on your leader, the supposed true successor to Lenin. Reading lists/ suggestions to get me started on this guy

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What do Leaftypol think of this dude?

Would Democratic Socialism work? or do we have to take Power by force?

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Nikita Khrushchev underrated

It's that he paved the way for Chad revisionism, but the kosygin reforms get pinned on him while they were basically breznev fault.

Also breznev is the one who caused the economic stagnation and dumped the reforms that could have saved the USSR on Andropov.

At least Khrushchev believed in socialism while breznev was a glorified burocrat at best who builded a comical cult of personality.

Seriously, why Khrushchev is more hated than Breznev?

Post Breznev bro memes

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So what exactly is a leftcom? Are they a tendency on their own? I've noticed people who are called leftcoms tend to act like pretentious douchebags a lot but that can't be the criteria alone. Is it just an insult?

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/Syndie/ General

/Syndie/ General

Post any memes, theory, pdfs, OC related to Syndicalism, Deleonism, anarcho-syndicalism, Syndicalist Writers, etc

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"Social Democrats are socialists"

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/pol/ reports border crossing via webcam

is there anything more cucked?

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This is a female or not. I think it could be.

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Watch this and be honest with me


What are your thoughts? Is there any truth being spoken here to you or is it all nonsense to you? All I am asking from you is to listen and share some insights you have. Nobody is willing to listen nowadays and it's.. quite sad. I don't come from "right" or "left". I am just a person who respects individuality. Hear me out and I will stick around to hear what you have to say.

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Does anyone know how to put the bear from the California flag onto my Commiefornia flag?

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>communism is dead

>fascism is dead

>liberalism rules the world

What to do?

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What's the deal with Post-Left Anarchism and specifically Insurrectionism? I get that they think that Leftist tactics and strategy isn't effective and needs to be left behind, but what are they actually advocating for instead? Do they honestly believe that the revolution will be achieved through rioting and squatting or am I missing something? What are their main ideological differences with other anarchists?

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so how is this place different from the old /leftypol/?

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I am Anarcho-communist.

I am searching for comrades.

Where are you, comrades?

My comrades, I am searching for you.

Oh, comrades…

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Board coup?

How does one take over a board and topple the owner, hypothetically?

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Stephen Hawking Dead At 76

Press F to pay respects …

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What do you call this aesthetic? How do steal this look?

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Did you forget about me you ungratefull plebs ?

Just last week our EMPEREUR has confirmed that military conscription will be back so our creme de la creme of the military gets reinforced and the glory of our empire gets restored.

Jean "analysts not anarchists" Mélenchon failed you , the empire will be back!

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Daily News Thread 3/17

FBI ex-deputy director Andrew McCabe sacked days before retirement

Former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe has been sacked days before he could retire with pension rights.


Russia spy poisoning: 23 UK diplomats expelled from Moscow

Russia is to expel 23 British diplomats in a row over the nerve agent attack on an-ex spy and his daughter in the UK.


New European sanctions would affect nuclear deal: Iran official

Any new European sanctions against Iran will have a direct effect on the nuclear deal struck between world powers and Tehran, Iran’s deputy foreign minister said Friday, according to state media.


China says resolutely opposed to new U.S. law on ties with Taiwan

China’s Foreign Ministry on Saturday expressed its “resolute opposition” after U.S. President Donald Trump signed legislation that encourages the United States to send senior officials to Taiwan to meet Taiwanese counterparts and vice versa.


Bullets That Killed Brazil Activist Franco 'Bought by Police'

The ammunition was apparently stolen and has been used in more than 50 crimes since, a source told Reuters on condition of anonymity.


One Candidate Murdered Every Four Days in Mexico Elections: OAS

The local journal registered at least 55 murders of pre-candidates from all parties during the same period and 83 assaults.


Talks on trillion-dollar US budget bill reach crucial stage

Top-level congressional talks on a $1.3 trillion catchall spending bill are reaching a critical stage as negotiators confront immigration, abortion-related issues and a battle over a massive rail project that pits President Donald Trump against his most powerful Democratic adversary.


Jailhouse video shows deputies watching, laughing as inmate dies

Jailhouse video shows California sheriff’s deputies watching and sometimes laughing as a schizophrenic man who had been strapped naked to a chair for 46 hours writhes on the floor of his cell, loses consciousness and eventually dies.


Hacker who gave up Wikileaks source dies

Adrian Lamo, a computer hacker best known for passing on information that led to the arrest of Chelsea Manning, has died aged 37.


A US City Has Banned Cryptocurrency Mining For Draining Electricity

For the first time, cryptomining has been banned by a city in the United States. The process of earning cryptocurrency will no longer be allowed in the city of Plattsburgh, New York, city officials announced this month.


Jersey City's 4,000-member teachers union strikes for first time since 1998

Jersey City's public-school teachers walked off the job for the first time in 20 years today, leading to confusion and some chaos across the 29,000-student district as teachers led boisterous protests outside city schools.


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Leftypol BO just confirmed that it wasn't Xir in the "AMA thread"


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Before /leftypol/ and /leftpol/ did any of you partook in any other leftist communities?

Anyone here from sovietempire, revleft or anokchan? Who still uses those sites anyway?

If 8ch were to close down how long would it take to the next community to grow and take hold? How would people even get there?

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What is the future of /leftpol/ and /leftypol/?

It's already been 6 months, and I'd like to know; what lies in store for the two boards? Do we plan on reuniting after BO leaves, or have we grown apart too far to be considered the same board culture? How do we take back /leftypol/ and grow to the level where we can actually influence the internet again?

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Hey reddit! We make "endless thread" - a podcast about YOU! Hey reddit! We make "endless thread" - a podcast about YOU! Hey reddit! We make "endless thread" - a podcast about YOU! Hey reddit! We make "endless thread" - a podcast about YOU!

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Leftypol BO AMA

Hi. BO here. By that I mean the BO of leftypol.

Now that tensions have dropped a little I thought I'll give you the chance to ask me anything.

>inb4 are u a cock sucking tranny?


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I am a former alt righter who just became a leftist one week ago. Ask me anything.

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What's the skinny on the Zapatista Revolution? What are they doing to get people redpilled? Also when the next revolution, happen your predictions.

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The USSR WISH they could have this.

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Shit Communists Say While Drunk

Fuck your theory

My true Marxist Leninist Green Communist Cybernetica theory is literally the best paradigm possible you puny anarchronism worshipping cuck

Fuck your polemics

Fuck your tan you look like shit

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Buying the Left?

Is it appropriate to buy leftist art, statues, posters, etc. or does that feed the capitalist system that commodifies a supposed leftist/revolutionary aesthetic?

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/Leftypol/ Whine thread

post all your totally undeserved bans/screenshots of mod abuse here, and stop clogging up the rest of the catalog.

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How would you explain









to somebody with basically no previous knowledge of philosophy and politics?

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Was /Buckminster/ Fuller TechnoMarxist?

Hey reading quotes from Buckminster Fuller. He seems to believe in a notion of UBI, and has this sort of Green Technocrat Communist feel to what I've read about him. Is he one of /ourguys/?

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literally the only good english version of The Internationale.

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Hello comrades. Fuck barbarism long live modernity!

“The premier demand upon all education is that Auschwitz not happen again” (T.W. Adorno). Agree? If yes.

Join us at:

>> https://8ch.net/antigerman/

Further discussion:

What is your stance on the Israel Palestine conflict? Can it be solved and if yes, which solution would you prefer?

Do you think radical Islam is a fascist ideology and should be treated as such?

Is Islam reformable or inherently reactionary and violent in nature?

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/JFK/ one of us?

Was JFK a communist? The CIA and military seemed to suspect it. James Jesus Angleton was convinced? Was he a KGB spy all along?

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>mfw this is what ancraps believe

In the Ethics of Liberty, Rothbard explores issues regarding children's rights in terms of self-ownership and contract. These include support for a woman's right to abortion, condemnation of parents showing aggression towards children, and opposition to the state forcing parents to care for children. He also holds children have the right to run away from parents and seek new guardians as soon as they are able to choose to do so. He asserted that parents have the right to put a child out for adoption or sell the rights to the child in a voluntary contract in what Rothbard suggests will be a "flourishing free market in children". He believes that selling children as consumer goods in accord with market forces, while "superficially monstrous", will benefit "everyone" involved in the market: "the natural parents, the children, and the foster parents purchasing".

In Rothbard's view of parenthood, "the parent should not have a legal obligation to feed, clothe, or educate his children, since such obligations would entail positive acts coerced upon the parent and depriving the parent of his rights." Thus, Rothbard stated that parents should have the legal right to let any infant die by starvation, and should be free to engage in other forms of child neglect. However, according to Rothbard, "the purely free society will have a flourishing free market in children". In a fully libertarian society, he wrote, "the existence of a free baby market will bring such 'neglect' down to a minimum".

Economist Gene Callahan of Cardiff University, formerly a scholar at the Rothbard-affiliated Mises Institute, observes that Rothbard allows "the logical elegance of his legal theory" to "trump any arguments based on the moral reprehensibility of a parent idly watching her six-month-old child slowly starve to death in its crib."


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Is geography worth studying? What fields / topics in it are most relevant to leftism? Are there any key Leftist authors/works to start with in geography as a beginner?

(inb4 >soft science)

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Can I become anarchist and still believe in god?

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I'm so tired of going to a website and see that they accept donation in a bunch of different creepto pesos

Every goddamn inch of the internet is run by nazis at this point

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Daily News Thread 3/15

Financial crisis rules for banks eased by US Senate

The US Senate has passed a bill to roll back banking regulations put in place in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis.


'Panama Papers' Law Firm Shuts Down Operations After Tax Scandal

The law firm at the heart of the 'Panama Papers' tax-evasion scandal toppling world leaders is shutting down operations, it has announced, citing negative press and "unwarranted action by authorities."


Saudi crown prince says will develop nuclear bomb if Iran does: CBS TV

Saudi Arabia will develop nuclear weapons if its arch-rival Iran does so, the kingdom’s crown prince said in remarks released on Thursday, raising the prospect of a nuclear arms race in a region already riven with conflict.


Trump, on tape, admits making up trade facts in talks with Canadian PM Justin Trudeau, 'Washington Post' reports

President Donald Trump boasted at a private fundraiser Wednesday of making up trade claims during a meeting with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau before knowing whether they were true.


Abe’s Bad Month Gets Worse as Allies Press Him Over Scandal

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe got a warning sign that a ballooning scandal won’t go away any time soon: a rare interrogation from lawmakers from his own party.


U.S. Sanctions Russians Charged by Mueller for Election Meddling

The U.S. sanctioned a St. Petersburg-based “troll farm,” a close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, two Russian intelligence services and other Russian citizens and businesses indicted by Special Counsel Robert Mueller on charges of meddling with the 2016 U.S. presidential election.


Russia spy: Allies condemn nerve agent attack

The leaders of France, Germany, the US and UK say there is "no plausible alternative explanation" to Russia having been behind the nerve agent attack in the UK.


US accuses Russia of ongoing operation to hack energy grid

The Trump administration accused Russia on Thursday of a concerted, ongoing operation to hack and spy on the U.S. energy grid and other critical infrastructure, and separately imposed sanctions on Russian officials for alleged high-tech interference in the 2016 American presidential election.


Foreign powers obstruct more Assad gains in Syria

Syria’s war is reaching a point where President Bashar al-Assad’s will not be able to win back much more territory without risking conflicts with foreign powers that have sent military forces to the country.


Kudlow Plunges Into New Role as Trump’s Economic Warrior

Larry Kudlow wasted no time in showing Wall Street and Washington that he’s ready to serve as an unabashed economic warrior for President Donald Trump.


Brazilian Rights Activist Marielle Franco Assassinated in Rio

Prominent human rights advocate and councilwoman Marielle Franco was shot in the head while in her car by unknown assailants.


Charleston church gunman Dylann Roof's sister in knife arrest

The sister of the man convicted of a mass shooting at a South Carolina church has been arrested for carrying a knife at her school in Columbia, SC.


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Is modern-day China socialist?

I saw this a few hours ago and don't have the theoretical knowledge to fairly tackle it. Can someone help me out to understand. All it seems is the post is saying corporatism is socialism for the first half of it's development.

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So, how about that left unity huh?

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Cut my ideology into pieces

Hey /leftpol/, I'm in need of some advice. I grew up in the US in a hardline democrat family (we would be labour in the U.K.). My mom is a committed progressive and my dad is huge fan of Bernie Sanders. All my life, I grew up being told that the democrats are the good guys and the republicans are the bad guys. It wasn't until high school and college that I began to break away from that view and I now consider myself a Leninist. However, despite the fact that I know both parties are ultimately tools of capitalist elites and that even someone like Bernie just wants to suck off FDR's corpse rather than institute a socialist state, I still find myself hoping for democrat wins this primary and in 2020. Part of it is due to the fact that I'm exceedingly concerned about climate change and I'm worried that since a revolution seems to not be in the immediate future (although I can see we're quickly approaching one within the next century), I worry that it might be better to play with the broken deck we have right now to try get some change rather than hoping a new deck will be able to save it in time. Do I need to violently rip myself from this ideological bias or is this a valid position with such a monumental threat to human survival on the horizon?

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You're a big board.

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Richard Wolff at Catholic Worker, March 2018


>Professor Richard Wolfe at Catholic Worker, Maryhouse in NYC, March 2, 2018 speaking on why capitalism has failed to achieve economic justice for majority of workers. He offers some insights into Marxist economic analysis and discusses some alternatives such as worker owned cooperatives. Also analyses decline of labor unions and public education in U.S.

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Why didn't he do it

Why didn't he blow that faggot reactionary to smithereens.

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What is really the difference of /leftypol/ and /leftpol/?

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Does anyone else use GNU Social / Mastodon here?

Facebook + Twitter are not good for Leftists..

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Daily News Thread 3/16

Britain, France, Germany propose new sanctions on Iran

Britain, France and Germany have proposed fresh EU sanctions on Iran over its ballistic missiles and its role in Syria’s war, according to a confidential document, in a bid to persuade Washington to preserve the 2015 nuclear deal with Tehran.


South Korea Shrugs Off Trump’s Latest Threat to Draw Down Troops

South Korea had a muted reaction after President Donald Trump hinted the administration might roll back military support for its longtime ally, a threat that came as the two sides seek to overhaul their trade deal while also disarming Kim Jong Un.


Seoul aims for more talks about talks with North Korea this month

South Korea said on Friday it was seeking high-level talks this month with North Korea to prepare for a summit and that the South Korean president may meet Donald Trump before the U.S. president’s planned meeting with the North Korean leader.


Corbyn Warns Against New Cold War With Russia Over Poisoned Spy

U.K. Labour Party Leader Jeremy Corbyn warned Prime Minister Theresa May against sparking a new cold war after she expelled 23 Russian diplomats and unveiled a raft of other measures against Vladimir Putin’s government over the poisoning of a former spy in southern England.


France: Pensioners Protest Higher Income Tax, Unions to Strike

Measures that affect workers and retirees follow reductions in wealth and capital gains taxes, leading many to argue Macron is governing for the rich.


Iraq helicopter crash leaves seven American personnel dead

Seven American military personnel have died in a helicopter crash in western Iraq, the US Defence Department says.


White House Denies McMaster Is Next to Be Ousted

President Donald Trump is not about to oust his national security adviser, H.R. McMaster, according to White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders, even as speculation intensified that McMaster’s departure had already been decided.


Donald Trump Jr.’s Wife, Vanessa, Seeks Divorce After 12-Year Marriage

Vanessa Trump filed for divorce from Donald Trump Jr., the U.S. president’s eldest child and co-head of the family’s real estate business, according to court records.


Florida Bridge Collapses Days After Installation, Killing 'Several' People

Florida Bridge Collapses Days After Installation, Killing 'Several' People


Caterpillar to close facilities, could cut 880 jobs

Caterpillar Inc will close two facilities and is contemplating the closure of its engine manufacturing plant in Illinois, which together could potentially result in about 880 job losses, a company spokeswoman told Reuters on Friday.


Winn-Dixie is closing almost 100 stores as part of bankruptcy filing

Almost 100 Winn-Dixie, Harveys, and BI-LO locations are closing in the Southeast as the regional grocery chains' parent company prepares to file for bankruptcy.


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Socialist Cybernetics

Cybernetics is the scientific study of dynamic systems that exhibit closed signaling loops - I.E. the system generates some change in its environment and that change is reflected in the system in some manner that triggers a system change and so on. This thread is about applying the science of cybernetics to socialist economic planning and government.

Essential Reading:

Short history of Cybersyn, the first fully cybernetic planning system created:


Towards A New Socialism by Paul Cockshott and Allin Cottrell

[PDF attatched]

Calculation-in-Natura from Neurath to Kantorovich by Paul Cockshott


Please discuss cybernetics and economic planning and share opinions or texts on the subject

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>claiming Fred Rogers was a racist

>using a photo of a left-leaning celebrity to prove a neo-Nazi point

I love how /pol/ displays their incredible stupidity, don't you?

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Does France get a "colonial tax" from its former colonies?

We probably all agree that neocolonialism by western nations in Africa is an ongoing issue, but I wonder if anyone can verify the claim that 14 of France's ex-colonies have to pay a major tax to France as compensation for the "benefits" of colonial infrastructure? I've seen this claim being brought up a couple times on here and /leftypol/, but the only sources I find to back it up are fairly dubious articles like the ones below, which all seem to borrow from the first one:




I do know they taxed Haiti in a comparable way until the 1940s, so it's not impossible, but some credible proof or data would be nice.

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let's talk about idpol

is foucault the guy who killed the left in the academic world, being the father of modern left idpol?

is anti-idpol-ism necessarily a nietzche-friendly position?

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Why do tankies love Assad so much? i really don't get it.

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People you wish had followed the right way

Post/discuss about people you wish had followed our way , even if they were considered our enemies.

I might be romanticizing him too much but Kolchak would have been one of the best Admirals if he had chosen the bolshevik side .

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this may be my paranoia, but does anyone else feel constant anxiety knowing there are right wing extremists out there right now planning massive attacks on innocent people? both groups and lone wolves. Obviously Islamic terrorism is right wing, but the west seems to only focus on that specific sect of terror. It keeps me up at night knowing people like Anders Breivik are out there right now, armed and possibly planning/ and it's not like these are isolated incidents, all around Europe right wingers are torching centers full of immigrants, attacking "brown people" in the streets etc etc. I'm sure the same is true for America. my english isn't the best so I can't put into words my feelings that well, but I am genuinely terrified in our current political climate i'm going to wake up one morning to news some right winger has bombed, poisoned, shot up and killed innocent people out of pure hatred.

Is there any literature i should read on why the right is so inherently violent? what is the solution to the right wing problem? will it always exist or is there an answer to eradicate it

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>has done society a greater service than literally any other journalist

>hated by the right wing because the right endorses pedophilia now

>tells the truth, unlike that self-loathing dick-sucker neo-Nazi Milo Yiannopoulos

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Why do Anarchists do this?!

So a bunch of anarchists have decided that they should go on smashing a bunch of small businesses in a street called "Locke Street" for no apparent reason other than the street being associated with John Locke. Is there anything particularly bad about John Locke? Sounds like dumb moralism to me, wouldn't he be considered progressive considering the fact that he lived in the fucking 17th century?

Seriously, why do anarchists do this shit? This is literally the worst praxis you could ever come up with, and this is also ironic: People develop dual power and communal interests against the anarchists, because they don't want to see their community vandalized.


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Flag thread

I feel autistic for making this thread but post em

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Why are there 2 left-pols now?

leftypol and now leftpol? What gives? I must have missed something? This thread may be low energy but if you had a sticky about why this board exists then there'd probably be less confusion.

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Joe Hill

What are your opinions on Joe Hill? I feel as if he's overlooked by many, but he's a martyr of the working class. He fought for the working class, was falsely accused of murder and executed because of it.


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upcoming election thread

I know people like to shit on electoralism, but whatever you think, it's still a good way to gauge where people are at in their political beliefs. Portugal seems to be doing pretty well for example, about 15% for the two left-wing parties, along with 40% for the centre-left. This page does seem pretty incomplete, so I'll look around and see if there's more:


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Why does western media literally whitewash everything about this psychopathic fascist cult and pretend they're just these innocent practitioners of Tai Qi instead of a vicious cult that believes Mixed race people should be killed, gays should be killed, that western science and western medicine must be rejected, that giving money to their New York cult leader will cure them of illnesses, demand you leave all your wealth to them when you die etc.

The countless amount of people who have died because of their insane anti-medical stance alone. Basically anybody who has any association with this cult, will know someone who has died because of it.

I swear the insane level of white washing behind these cult fucks in western media must mean they're CIA funded or some shit.

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Would anyone care about late bourgeois art in the far future?

Hollywood has reduced cinema to meaningless spectacle. A half century ago even low budget movies had more substance then the formulaic garbage of today with bloated budgets yet today you do have idiots defending the garbage Hollywood shits out today. There are still exceptions like 2014's Interstellar but overall Hollywood is artistically bankrupted (Interstellar wasn't even nominated for best story or film in the Oscars that year but American Sniper was). The whole Hollywood system is antithetical to art, big studios want to shit out big budget blockbusters that earn that money back quickly with the help of massive marking blitzes, and the professional "connoisseurs" are paid for by that marketing budget. The train wreck that is the new Star Wars movies shows the problem with the assembly line approach to film making.

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Post Living

Which are the best authors for the completely alienated? I don't simply mean oppressed, ostracized, alone, indignant, or emotionally &/or physically crippled. I'm talking borderline divorced from reality & practicality. People keep inadvertently suggesting I read Nick Land.

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Make 4chan anarchistic again

In the old days of 4chan it has always had sympathy with left leaning politics and anarchy in general.

I can't stand my favorite website being put in the trash of the right wing.

I ask of you /leftpol/ to help me destroy the right wing influence on 4chan.

We should start to subvert boards that already are to some degree leftist, like /lit/ and /int/.

Then we should move to /r9k/ and /pol/.

Don't push it too hard on them, just inplement it for a start. Make threads and comments that don't literaly say that you are an anarchist, only say left leaning opinions.

Actively reply to threads and spread our way of true freedom

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What are your honest opinions on Lenin?

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Possible Solution to the Transformation Problem

Read this paper recently that describes an elegantly simply solution to the transformation problem: that you need to count the cost of reproducing the capitalist class in the labor values. Your thoughts?

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What's with redliberals calling anyone a tad bit socially conservative Nazbols or say your not a real commie? I see this all over leftbook, they deny that any socialist gov had conservative laws on the books and that all of them were bastions of social freedom.

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Allende was a badass

So I feel that a lot of people here don't know much about Allende's death and what exactly happened that day and just how much of a badass Allende was. I feel that as a chilean socialist, I must tell you about it:

>September 11, 1973

>Allende is informed that the chilean military have began a coup

>At this point he has been offered multiple times by generals and party members alike a plane for him to escape

>He tells them to go fuck themselves

>A bunch of cities are already on lockdown by the military

>The navy, airforce, and police declare their loyalty to the military

>Allende and the GAP (grupo de amigos personales) or group of personal friends drive to the presidential palace (La Moneda), carrying assaul rifles, SMGs, pistols, and rocket launchers

>They may be reformists but they won't step down by an illegal overthrow

>At around 11:00AM chilean generals order planes to bomb La Moneda

>They strafe it and launch rockets

>Then soldiers and tanks begin their assault

>Allende is carryin an akms gifted to him by Castro

>He and the 80 or so members of the GAP fight off about 3000 soldiers for hours

>At one point Allende even destroys a tank with an RPG

>Finally the soldiers manage to enter La Moneda

>Fighting continues inside

>One of the generals called Javier Palacios gives Allende a final offer to surrender

>He tells him to go fuck himself

>Allende shoots Palacios and hits him in his hand, but doesn't kill him

At this point, this is where there's still some debate about how exactly Allende died, but it was not suicide. The book I got all this info from puts the most likely option as this:

>The group of soldiers with Palacios gun Allende down and he's finished off by a pistol shot by Palacios

>Then they shoot him with his AK under the chin to simulate his suicide

The book btw is called "Allende: I won't surrender". If you speak spanish, or manage to find a translation, I highly recommend it.

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Is there ever going to be another 1917? It seems like the way warfare and political action has changed, that mass proletarian revolution just isn't possible anymore but instead leading some kind of terrorist-esque guerilla fighting (perhaps People's Protracted War is still relevant?) is the closest you can practically get to revolution. Is revolution with the barricades and the red banners and masses of armed workers marching on to the bourgeois state even possible anymore?

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Can someone explain to me what the whole TERF thing is about and why it’s causing drama in the Labour Party?

From what I can tell, it seems that there’s a specific sect of misandrist feminists who think MtF transgender people can’t really be women, and that they’re very vocal about this. Is that it? Why the fuck is Labour letting this be a distraction? They seem like a very loud vocal minority that are more trouble than they’re worth - they could just be kicked out of leadership positions in the party.

Why is this even an issue, and what is their ideology?

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oniichan NNTP-chan node

Looks like the oniichan node for NNTP-chan is back up and running. That means there is not only a single node ran by /pol/tards.


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How do I find a leftcom gf (biological)?

Any suggestions comrades?

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what are your opinions on left wing nationalism?

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Global Capitalism

New Global Capitalism update.



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Daily News Thread 3/14

U.K. Expels Russian Envoys, Threatens Assets Over Spy Poisoning

Prime Minister Theresa May threw 23 Russian diplomats out of Britain in retaliation for the poisoning of a former spy and his daughter on U.K. soil, as she braced the country for further attacks.


Stephen Hawking: Visionary physicist dies aged 76

World renowned physicist Stephen Hawking has died at the age of 76.


Pennsylvania Election Too Close to Call as Democrat Claims Win

Democrat Conor Lamb and Republican Rick Saccone were locked in race that was too close to call for a House seat in Pennsylvania that may be a bellwether for the fall elections even as Lamb claimed victory.


‘Flight risk’ Manafort facing ‘very real possibility’ of life in prison – court order

Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort is facing the “very real possibility” of life in prison, according to a federal court order.


At Trump’s State Department, Eight of Ten Top Jobs Are Empty

The leadership of the U.S. State Department was already thin as Secretary of State Rex Tillerson flew back from an abbreviated trip to Africa on Monday night. Then came the bombshell: Tillerson was ousted, via a Twitter announcement by President Donald Trump.


Farm Bill Put in Jeopardy Over Food Stamp Work Requirements

House Agriculture Committee Chairman Michael Conaway said he’s delaying the release of a draft law renewing farm and nutrition programs to try and produce a bill with bipartisan support after intense Democratic opposition over cuts to the food-stamp program raised the possibility the bill could be imperiled.


Mexico: Police Clash With Activist Protesting Cyanide Plant in Durango

Protesters say the Chemours Laguna plant would pollute the region and poison the population.


Chinese workers say firms tricked them into illegal US work

Zhou Qingjiang was toiling in a factory in China’s rust belt when he decided to pack his bags for America. A recruiter guaranteed a job that paid $3,000 a month — more than triple the average wage in China — as long as Zhou forked over thousands of dollars for his help. The offer was too good to pass up.


United Nation 'Considering' Sending Observers for Venezuelan Elections

Some Venezuelan opposition parties continue to lobby for the U.N. not to send international observers to the May 20 presidential elections.


Philippines drugs war: Duterte to withdraw from ICC

Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte has said he plans to withdraw his country from the International Criminal Court (ICC) after it began examining the country's drugs war.


White nationalist leader Matthew Heimbach arrested for assault in Indiana

White nationalist leader Matthew Heimbach was arrested for assault Monday night at his home in Indiana.


Calif. teacher accidentally fires gun in class, students injured

Police say a teacher in California accidentally fired his gun in a classroom, injuring three students.


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Dubtrack thread


Join, share your tracks and shitpost.

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Why /leftpol/ instead of /leftypol/?

Could somebody explain the ideological differences between /leftypol/ and /leftpol/? I'm looking for a board that won't ban me for my equally nationalist and internationalist, non-materialist, far-left ideology. I get banned for nazbol on a regular basis there, accused of fascism, but all the time i've been left-wing as hell and don't really hate gays or jews or black people, and don't support fascist socdem policy. It's not a good place for discussion really. Is this board more non-materialist and somewhat more nationalist than /leftypol/, or do i "have to go back"?

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How do we solve this problem?

>Socialist becomes leader

>Military mixed between loyals and rightwing reactionaries

>Socialist trusts his generals

>The rightwingers purge the loyal generals and coup the president


>Socialist paranoid of all the army

>Purges almost the entire army, leaving only shitty generals

>External power invades because of shitty army and beat the fuck out of the socialists

How can this be avoided in the best way possible?

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To settle for less, or to strive for more

Election year is coming up in Sweden, and it's got me thinking about what to vote for. There are no good options in my view. The socialist parties of the past are plagued by liberal thought, they proud themselves in dealing with identity politics and do no longer care about the working class. They would rather talk about Swedish values and culture than the socioeconomic issues that trouble our society today.

I have a feeling that this is something that has been going on throughout the west. Former workers parties have become liberal and socialist hybrids who talk about inequality in terms of power relations, and not in terms of class relations. There has been a small, and partially successful, counter-movement in the United Kingdom and in the United States with Jeremy Corbyn and Bernie Sanders.

The case of Bernie Sanders brings me to the issue at hand: do we vote for the lesser evil, or do we try and form something new? The issue of forming something new is that the likelihood of political success is slim, and if there is to be any success it would take years to achieve this (although it might be worth it in the end).

The second option is to vote for the parties, who are at this time and age part of the establishment. This would only enforce the status quo and make these particular parties believe in their socialist/liberal ideology even more than before.

tl;dr what the fuck do we do in democratic societies when the parties suck ass

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*you're at a sandwich shop eating a ham sandwich when all of a sudden pic related walks up to you. upon seeing your sandwich his frown deepens but he still doesnt say anything, he just puts down a book infront of you*

>yeah it says here you have to pay my jizya or convert infidel

*you try to protest that there is no such law in your country when he slams his sword into the table


what do?

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Daily News Thread 3/13

Trump Fires Rex Tillerson, Says CIA’s Pompeo to Become Secretary of State

U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson was ousted Tuesday by President Donald Trump, ending a rocky tenure in an abrupt move that blindsided the former Exxon Mobil Corp. CEO just hours after he returned from an almost week-long trip to Africa.


Trump fired his longtime personal assistant over an unspecified 'security issue'

President Donald Trump's longtime personal assistant, John McEntee, was fired from his White House position for an unspecified security issue, the Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday morning.


Trump’s pick for new CIA director is female career spymaster

President Donald Trump’s choice to be the first female director of the CIA is a career spymaster who once ran an agency prison in Thailand where terror suspects were subjected to a harsh interrogation technique that the president has supported.


ICE Spokesman Quits, Disputing Trump Administration Claim on Arrests

The U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokesman in San Francisco has resigned after becoming frustrated by Trump administration statements about a recent sweep targeting illegal immigration.


Trump Says Russia Likely to Blame for Poisoning Ex-Spy in U.K.

President Donald Trump said Russia was likely behind the poisoning of a former spy in U.K. that threatens to further strain relations between Vladimir Putin’s government and the West.


Britain gives Putin until midnight to explain nerve attack on former spy

Britain gave President Vladimir Putin until midnight on Tuesday to explain how a nerve agent developed by the Soviet Union was used to strike down a former Russian double agent who passed secrets to British intelligence.


Gaza blast targets Palestinian PM Hamdallah's convoy

An explosion in the Gaza Strip has targeted the convoy of the Palestinian Prime Minister, Rami Hamdallah.


Over 7 Million Cubans Vote for New National Assembly

"This is not an end of the revolution or legacy, it’s a continuation," Cubans are saying.


Afrin: t*rkish forces 'encircle' Syrian Kurdish city

The t*rkish military says it has surrounded the Kurdish-held city of Afrin in northern Syria, the focus of an offensive against a Kurdish militia.


U.S. Posts Biggest Budget Deficit Since 2012

The U.S. recorded a $215 billion budget deficit in February – its biggest in six years – as revenue declined.


Trump blocks Broadcom's bid for Qualcomm on security grounds

US President Donald Trump has blocked a planned takeover of chipmaker Qualcomm by Singapore-based rival Broadcom on grounds of national security.


U.S. Employment Outlook Means Tough Recruiting for Trump’s Army

The lowest unemployment rate in a decade is good news for Americans, but bad news for an expanding U.S. military.


There’s No One Steering the Ship at NASA

Drifting for a year without an administrator, the agency’s acting chief quits as manned missions are poised to resume.


Junior high teacher accused of feeding puppy to turtle

A school district in Preston, Idaho is investigating an incident that took place at Preston Junior High last week.


Deadly Texas parcel bomb attacks 'linked'

Two parcel bombs that left a teenager dead and two others injured in Austin, Texas are believed to be linked to a case earlier this month, police say.