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-Why are there two leftypols now?

"Lmao WIP"

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/leftylit/

I started reading Thomas More's Utopia recently and was wondering if we could get a thread going about left wing literature. Anyone else read this and have thoughts on the book? Can it be considered proto-socialist?

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Is there any hope left for socialism or are we doomed to a couple of centuries of decadence before the planet becomes truly inhabitable?

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Is this genuine leftism?

http://stop-amazon.com/

They are posting flyers near me. Really focused on class struggle and corporate A-holes.

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US irregular immigration: multi-sided class conflict

Is there a class conflict between irregular immigrants to the US and the US working class? And if US employers have no class conflict with irregular immigrants, wouldn't that make it a multi-sided class conflict?

Most irregular immigrants to the US are from central american countries and are running from insecurity or a lack of opportunities (and figure it's better to be poor in the US).

Besides, the defense of the interests of US companies in latin america by US officials has resulted in more poverty and insecurity than there otherwise would be; the US working class wants the profits from US companies taxed and invested on itself, or at least that's their class interest.

Which gives us a table of class interests:

US working class: -immigration, +defence of US interests

US employers: +immigration, +defence of US interests

Irregular immigrants: +immigration, -defence of US interests

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what would a modern communist Japan look like?

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Political Orientation Tests

ITT: We post results of political orientation tests we took and recommend new/good ones and discuss the results. I will start with a good old 8values test.

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Disciplining the left

One of the biggest problem of the modern left is the open display of decadence and lack of discipline. The alt-right memes about leftoids and radlib effeminate soyboys, sexual deviants and limp-wristed middle class kids don't come from nothing, and the it's scary that the left delivers right-wingers more and more material to mock us which transpire into the mainstream opinion. In my opinion, there are several things we need to tackle:

- Sexual deviancy and promiscuity. Who you fuck and what your kinks are belong into your bedroom and nothing else. Get your pronouns and self-proclaimed sexual fetishes out of your bio. Stop posting anime girls if you want to run a serious political or philosophical account. Put that shit on a private account if you want to.

- Scruffyness. Groom yourself and work out. Get decent clothing. Do not associate with any of these types publicly: Ugly basement dweller with acne (Libertarian Socialist Rants), so-called "traps" (Muke), obese creeps ("anactualjoke"), etc. - don't agitate against them, just ignore them, do not associate with them.

- Behave in IRL political events. Don't show up intoxicated, don't use leftist events as a excuse to party and chill, do not aimlessly riot, whatever you do try to outcompete your political opponents, the libs and the right-wingers, in terms of respectability: If they drink a beer and sit in a camping chair, don't drink a beer, and don't bugger yourself into a camping chair. If you want to have fun, don't use your politics and do this with your friends.

- Anti-work rethoric. Do not ever try to make you look like you want free shit. Reduction of the work day is reasonable, nonsense like "abolishing work" will make you look bad and it is utopian, it straight-out ignores the material conditions of production, especially the reliance of the material wealth of the western service economies on Third World labor.

- LARPing/sloganeering. Self-explanatory. What we need is actual relevant political knowledge, we need to equipped with actual modern data and statistics, so we can uncompromisingly maintain our claim to be scientific.

We need to improve on all this. Feel free to add more points.

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What did he mean by this?

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EU Articles to Criminalize Online Free Speech pass EU Parliament Committee

The Report: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-copyright/eu-parliament-committee-votes-for-tougher-eu-copyright-rules-to-rein-in-tech-giants-idUSKBN1JG1FE

Why this is bad for all Digital Free Speech: https://www.communia-association.org/tag/article-13/

European Union users can visit this website to email, call, or tweet your MEPs to stop Article 13 and Article 11 from criminalizing links, memes, and free speech: https://saveyourinternet.eu/

So 8chan, how does a board built on free speech feel about this??

>inb4 /b/tards complain pedophilia is censored and anarcho-capitalists defend privatizing free speech

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What happens when robots/A.I. make large sections of the human population unemployed?

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Is the left funny? Can we meme?

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/lefttrash/

If we're moving here we may as well bring the best part of /leftypol/ along with us.

Movies, anime, music, feels, e-celebs, internet drama, fetishes and shitposting ITT

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Containment Thread

Liberals, nationalists, racists, Zionists, incels, and just plain schizophrenics: Argue with /leftpol/ here.

Helpful information:

Holocaust Denial:

https://imgur.com/a/725A7

Race:

http://www.americananthro.org/ConnectWithAAA/Content.aspx?ItemNumber=2583

Climate Change:

http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar5/wg1/WG1AR5_Chapter01_FINAL.pdf

Labor Theory of Value:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-FyBGWgOFA

More to come, I'm sure

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Why are liberals so fucking cliquish?

Has anyone noticed this?

There's like a dozen reddit subs like /r/shitredditsays, /r/badphilosophy, /r/circlebroke, etc. where they just hole up and gaze down upon the peons.

I would more expect this kind of behavior from conservatives, but I have not seen them do it on anywhere near the same scale.

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New site?

In the /leftypol/ whine thread we were discussing the possibility of creating a whole new leftist imageboard outside of 8chan, so that we aren't dependent on the 8chan admins anymore. It was brought up that we could prevent it from dying out like bunkerchan by making it more accessible and fixing features quickly if the userbase doesn't like them. Thoughts?

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/Leftselfimprovement/

New Years resolutions are a marketing scheme to sell fad diets, but I see no reason why leftists shouldn't pursue self-improvement. Let's have a thread to talking about getting fit, getting read, and developing skills.

I've got my current routine down, but I'm looking for books on syndicalism and communization. Can some anons help me out?

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☭Palestine General☭

This is a general for discussing the current geo-political Situation of Palestine and the Zionist problem. General debate, criticism of Israeli occupation and discussion of Palestinian leftist movements are very welcome.

Keep it civil and don't post /p*l/ tier bs.

Thread Theme:

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=d2O16mYojm0

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Anarcho-Primitivism Thread

Any unironic anprims here? Daily reminder to all of the statists and technophiles here that social stratification and inequality did not exist in prehistoric times, at least to the degree they exist today. As time passes humanity gets less and less free and more removed from its natural environment.

>2018

>not wanting to destroy all technological and economic progress in exchange for real liberty and equality

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End of History

According to Marxist theory two things are considered to be true.

A) All history is the history of class struggle

B) Communism is the final culmination of class struggle that manifests it’s self through the abolition of class, thus solving forever the antagonisms and contradictions of the class struggle.

So if both these things are true (which they most surely are) does this mean that Communism is the End of History?

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WebM thread

Share them, also I would love some clarifications on this one.

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Is the 09A /our comrades/?

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>doesn't believe in spooks

<reality literally operates via "spooky action at a distance" at its most fundamental level, completely invalidating materialism

will you just admit you're totally wrong, /leftpol/?

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"Boys Are Expendable...?"

Why is society so obsessed with the hobbies and livelihoods of adolescent males?

Last time I checked, boys are always being told to "fuck off", "get off your ass", "get your shit together", etc.

But when boys start "getting off their asses" and "make shit happen", the elders complain that they're "ruining everything", etc.

Comic books, video games, sci-fi novels, skateboarding, making music, anything that's popular with boys is always being attacked as being "gory" or "wussy".

Women and elders have their own vices which they stain society with, yet they're excused.

Or is it that society wants the male population 14 - 30 to be expendable soldiers to destroy any self-worth and worldly wanton for their weak-willed elders and damsels?

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/theory/ general

ITT we discuss any and all leftist theory.

use this thread to ask questions or discuss important texts.

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Is it possible to achieve socialism in the modern world?

How could a revolution or significant changes to the economic system of a nation (towards socialism) work in the context of the modern world? To save time I'll include some inevitable questions

1. Are HICs, MICs, or LICs the most capable of/receptive to a major overhaul of economic system?

2. How would a country like the UK with significant employment in the financial and service industries alter the underlying capitalistic system without causing such discomfort and difficulty that it too is opposed before it has been given a fair chance?

3. How could a 'failed state’ such as Libya or Somalia achieve socialism in their current state and should they even try?

4. Given the extreme unlikelihood of simultaneous global revolution or even capacity of some nations to achieve the change required how would a country manage to avoid imperial oppression or state capitalism?

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>the modern left has no chance of success and the best you can hope for is cuban style goverments in the third world and succdems in the western world

Try to debate me

This a post-left thread

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Uphold Marxism-Spinozism

In >>56417, someone asked me to write a short introduction to Spinoza, which I did, as attached to the thread. I also included an english translation of Frederic Lordon's essay which explains directly how capitalism manages to still quench all class consciousness on an individual level using Spinozist conceptual tools. I urge anyone who's interested in theory to check out Spinozist thought, maybe we could get a discord started if enough people are interested in getting familiar with a key thinker of western philosophy.

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Are antifa tactics effective?

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=2a_36lxA4HI

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Video Game Thread

I heard Ostalgie now has Poland as a playable nation, anyone play it?

On another note it could be just me but I find Hidden Agenda from 1988 still a high water mark. It gives you a better grasp on the state of the nation with its world building through its writing, for example being able to talk with the union leader.

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Capitalism wastes talent on an industrial scale

Think of how awful class relations made education and how many gifted children just get ingrained in them disdain of education or simply drop out. For the ones that remain, imagine how many of them end up in shitty STEM fields where they never really get to think critically or just end up being productive employees sucking up the technologically illiterate managerial class.

I consider myself extremely lucky but think of what a federation of socialist states could achieve right now and how much talent is just being wasted.

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OC thread

Post your new creations here.

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Reliable news sauces

people keep complaining about news being BS these days. are there any sauces that is trustworthy comrades?

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lefty music thread

post lefty music

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What is /leftpol/'s general consensus on the Peronist party?

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Coming to melb counter-protest?

friend ditched, heard people already have been doxxed and is afraid of being assault, morale is low, is anyone else getting up off of their armchairs?

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/DPRK/

Making this thread for the express purpose of discussing the Current Geo-Political Situation / Debating about / General Discussion about the D.P.R.K and so on

Preferably this thread could serve the same Purpose as the DPRK thread on /left*pol/ with it being the containment thread for discussions about the DPRK

Also if someone can get the Tank-poster whose been to NK who as far as i know still posts on the DPRK thread /left*pol/ to come here that would be nice

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When I was little, I never believed in the maturity or moral integrity of adults. Never had, never will. I always saw them as emotionally dynamic creatures that change morals as often as they change socks. That's not to say children are any better, but, in my opinion, society is too obsessed with controlling the young, but they excuse the vices of the elders.

Whenever teen boys make sex jokes, people get so pissy. I mean why? Isn't that everyone does? When older men ogle at adolescent girls, we excuse them. Older men make nicknames for types of women, older women make nicknames for types of men, people brag about their wild childhood misadventures from the 1970s, things that would get CPS called on you, but we laugh it off. But, "social media is the devil's toy for teens". Never mind that LSD has done far more real damage than social media ever will.

In the adult world, people lie, cheat, steal, kill, beg, backstab, etc. But we look at that as "necessary", "exercising free will", "harsh reality that young people need to face."

Cheat on your wife? "That's the breaks."

Killed your brother for life insurance money? "Evil, but inevitable, that's life."

Stole your best friend's genius invention and made millions off it? "Documentary material, my friend."

Ironically, in grade schools, when kids do the same thing, that's "evil", "narcissistic", "sociopathic", etc.

So, why do they tell young people to "work hard, be honest, be courteous" when the world is anti-appreciative of youthful idealism?

And why does society like to blame its problems on their young? Things that have happened long before the kids were old enough to wipe their own asses, when the elders who have been operating in the world for years, have "made their marks", pursuing their own vices, have had positions of power when said problems arisen?

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Daily News Thread 6/23

Pentagon `Indefinitely' Suspends Korean Military Exercises

The U.S. has “indefinitely suspended” military exercises in South Korea to foster Washington’s fledgling relationship with Pyongyang in the wake of President Donald Trump’s meeting in Singapore earlier this month with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-usa-south-korea/pentagon-indefinitely-suspends-some-training-exercises-with-south-korea-idUSKBN1JI2YV

After U.S., Israel Also Backs Away From UN Human Rights Body

Diplomats said Friday that Israel has temporarily reduced its participation with the U.N.'s main human rights body, days after the United States pulled out largely over its allegation that the Human Rights Council is biased against Israel.

https://outline.com/J4UuSE

Erekat Accuses U.S. of Trying to Overthrow Palestinian Authority

A top Palestinian official accused the U.S. of trying to overthrow Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, in an attempt to discredit an American peace mission it is shunning.

https://outline.com/z5V62b

Zimbabwe President Mnangagwa says he was 'inches' from Bulawayo explosion

Zimbabwe's President Emmerson Mnangagwa has survived an apparent bomb attack at a rally in the city of Bulawayo.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-44586218

On Eve of t*rkey’s Election, Only Erdogan Gets TV Time

President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s biggest rival appealed to a massive rally in Istanbul in the campaign’s final hours. You just wouldn’t know it watching state television.

https://outline.com/PM8tZ8

Pompeo warns Iran on nuclear arms; hopes military force will never be needed

U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Saturday warned Iran not to pursue nuclear weapons, saying it would face the “wrath of the entire world” if it did so, but added that he hoped it would never be necessary for the United States to take military action against the country.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-iran-pompeo/pompeo-warns-iran-on-nuclear-arms-hopes-military-force-will-never-be-needed-idUSKBN1JJ0IN

Italy migrant row: Malta defiant over stranded rescue boat

Italy has no right to ask Malta to accept the stranded migrant rescue ship Lifeline, according to Malta's Prime Minister Joseph Muscat.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44588022

Pence to Lead U.S.-Brazil Talks on Rocket Launch Site, Sources Say

Talks over U.S. commercial use of a rocket launch site in Brazil are advancing and will take center stage during Vice President Mike Pence’s visit to Brasilia next week, according to three people familiar with the matter.

https://outline.com/DzqLWr

Philippines plans to take drug war to schools with searches, testing

The Philippines is planning to take President Rodrigo Duterte’s ferocious drugs war to schools with the inspection of bags and lockers, as well as random testing for teachers, to curb demand for illegal substances, officials said on Friday.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-philippines-drugs/philippines-plans-to-take-drug-war-to-schools-with-searches-testing-idUSKBN1JI0HT

Ethiopia: One dead and dozens hurt in grenade attack at pro-PM rally

Ethiopian officials say one person has died and dozens more are injured, after an explosion at a rally for the new PM Abiy Ahmed.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-44586187

US military plans migrant tent camps amid Trump crackdown

The US Navy is reportedly planning to build sprawling immigrant detention centres on military bases, amid a Trump crackdown at the US-Mexico border.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44585716

Black communities mentally scarred when cops kill unarmed African-Americans – study

Fatal shootings of African-Americans by police have negatively impacted the mental health of their communities, says a new study that comes amid nationwide outrage over the death of yet another black teen.

https://www.rt.com/usa/430613-police-shootings-black-mental-health/

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Is riseup.net good?

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Fascists Are Frustrating

What's the deal with these people? I was talking to an un-ironic Nazbol recently and he was quite knowledgeable when it came to economics and socialism. However, when we came to the topic of race and social issues, he just completely shit the bed.

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>german comrades still haven't formed the Second Rotfront

>Not denouncing the Immigrant issue as a source for cheap labor disguised under the pretexts of effete Liberal ideology.

>Not singing Vaterlandlieder by Ernst Busch while protesting anti-Deutsch cunts

>Not marching for the Anniversary of the German Peasants' War in Rural Germany

>Not drunkenly getting into Fist fights with CDU shills as you sing Roter Wedding in the Streets of Berlin

Wtf, Genossen?

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International Corporate Tyranny

It seems that the dominant mode of imperialism is a game of seven degrees of separation. Each capitalist bucks the responsibility on to the next guy, forming a long line of people who refuse to take personal responsibility ending with the guy on the ground who murders the activist and the journalist.

I really don't know shit about this topic. Any recommended books on Corporate Imperialism?

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What the f is happening in China?

=CHINESE TV SHOW NAMED "MARX GOT IT RIGHT"=

>Saturday was the 200th anniversary of Marx’s birth, and Mr. Xi, trying to reassert the Communist Party’s dominance over an increasingly complex society, has used the occasion to call for renewed devotion to the founding tenets of Communism. He gave a big speech on Friday, days after visiting Peking University, where he also stressed Marxist education.

>“No idea or theory in the history of human thought has produced a broader or deeper impact than Marxism,” Mr. Xi said to thousands of officials in the Great Hall of the People. He called Marx “the greatest thinker in modern times.”

>Still, even the studio audience of polite party loyalists seemed daunted by Episode 3, “The Immortal ‘Das Kapital,’” about Marx’s forbidding three-volume treatise on the workings of capitalism.

>“I’m very happy that so many young friends from everywhere across the country are here with us to relive in stories the arduous times when Marx composed ‘Das Kapital,’” said Ms. Wu. “In modern human history, Marxism will come to the fore during every great crisis or turning point, and a classic indicator of this is Marx’s ‘Das Kapital.’”

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=LSYaEHkH7rQ

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/05/world/asia/china-karl-marx-xi-jinping.html?action=click&module=MoreInSection&pgtype=Article&region=Footer&contentCollection=Asia%20Pacific

=WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON??? ARE THEY SOCIALIST OR NOT????=

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The internet is the ultimate social catalyst. Eventually allowing the new institutional forms as well as greatly increased communication/educational efficiency, the internet will be seen by latter historian as more impactful in the history of mankind than the printing press was, squared.

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Post historical figures who are unironically worse than Hitler.

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Trotsky

Icepick maymays and screeching about crypto-fascism aside, what do you think of this cracker? Did he do a good job as Red Army commander? What were his main accomplishments and failures? Did he write books worth reading?

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80s / 60s / 70s Nostalgia

How come people on the Right fetizise the 80s in terms of music Aesthetic culture etc so much?

And how come New-Left / Liberals love to fetisize the 60s / 70s etc?

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What does /leftpol/ think about utilitarianism?

I know Marx made a breve critical mention of some utilitarian thinker but it wasn't too in depth to arrive at any conclusions.

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Praxis in the 21st Century

What is to be done? The Soviet Union has fallen and most remaining ML states have gone full revisionist and capitalist with the exception of a few holdouts, and even those are gradually edging towards revisionism. Labor unions have been or are in the process of being gutted and destroyed by neoliberalism and the radical left has lost much of its support among the working class without radical unions. The anarchist movement is fading into a pathetic LARP fest (certainly compared to what it used to be) with the possible exception of the Greek anarchist movement. At this point, first world ML parties are nothing more than irrelevant, dying social clubs for Trots and cultists (e.g. bob avakian). In the West, succdem movements led by politicians like Bernie, Mélenchon, and Corbyn might as well be the last serious remaining element of the "radical" left in terms of realistically gaining power.

The dreams of a successful third world rebellion are almost as bleak, and the "anti-imperialists" here, in the absence of a strong third world movement, have resorted to throwing support at completely non-leftist powers like Hezbollah and Assad simply because they oppose the United States. The leftist groups that are still active in the third world aren't exactly in any position to overthrow world capitalism, and many remaining guerrilla movements (such as the Maoists in the Philippines) are gradually fading under the pressure of imperialism.

On the other hand, modern material conditions are getting worse, especially for young people, and the left is seeing points of resurgence in some areas. There are tons of unemployed, alienated NEETs out there ripe for radicalization. There are lots of angry youth everywhere who can't find decent work, homes, and careers even despite craptons of education in the first world, and the third world has its own unemployment issues. And as a result, especially with the end of the Cold War fear of leftism, social democrats are soaring in popularity and labor struggles and strikes (even in Burgerstan) are becoming more prevalent in the West. But idpol from both liberals and the alt-right is drawing people away from the radical left and towards pointless squabbles over shit like online video game culture, and the online presence of the truly radical left is limited to a few small spots like the leftist boards on this site. New tech allows for new possibilities like cybernetic socialism in the future but also gives increased power and surveillance to reactionary states and corporations in the present.

When it comes to unstable third world areas like the Middle East, where shitty conditions could fuel leftist movements, angry, unemployed youth are just as likely to become refugees or join Hezbollah or obscure Islamist FSA factions than to form Maoist groups.

With all of this in mind, what should the left do now to work towards achieving socialism? Should we embrace the succdems out of sober realpolitik and pray that they will eventually guide a slow transition to socialism under the pressure of modern material conditions (economy, automation, unemployed and alienated NEETs)? Should we wait for a great economic collapse that will hopefully make 1917 viable again? Should we set trash cans on fire and organize tiny communized hipster enclaves away from capitalist authority like Exarchia or whatever because the rest of capitalist society is irredeemable? Do we volunteer in obscure, dying Maoist groups in the Third World in the hopes that our chaotic, warming world will soon provide an opportunity for those groups to rise again? Do we go full armchair (or edgy accelerationist) and assume that the material conditions will work themselves out without pointless, futile LARPing? Or do we create a whole new movement from scratch?

So, in your opinion, how should the radical left realistically work towards making socialism a reality, given the modern conditions of the 21st century?

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unpopular opinion thread

this is like the containment thread but for actual leftists, let's say for demsocs onwards, capitalists gtfo to quarantine, anyway I'll start off with some hot ones

<intersectionality does not have to be incompatible with class struggle

<the person who bears the most individual responsibility for the absolute state of libya is gaddafi

<lenin's concept of imperialism as the highest state of capitalism is wrong

<the trump russia investigation is a unique opportunity to shed light on the way the global economy works in 2018

<acid is a cia mind control drug

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Adorno, Horkheimer, Frankfurt school

Alright Comrades,

so I think its about time to hear some opinions about Frankfurt school. I'm really confused about what leftists think about the works of Adorno, the critical theory and Frankfurt school in general. I also have to admit that I didn't really understand what its all about so I'm really curious to hear what y'all think. Go!

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>Beliefs, customs, traditions and ideas are merely the byproduct of a wider historical trends, basically society's own perspective of itself

>Society and subjectivity rely both on each other and shape themselves in a dialectical process that is entirely deterministic and can therefore be explained with a certain degree of self-consistency. This is the work of historians.

>People, as in individuals, are rational agents thrown in this, their own thought model and consciousness is the result of social structures in which they belong. Their choices result of a heuristic process given the intellectual tools and general information they have available at the moment.

>It would be equally foolish to either expect anyone to behave any differently or to think you'd act differently if you were in someone else's shoes.

>Therefore one's own fate is entirely predetermined yet cannot be predicted. Only retrospective hindsight (in the form of personal introspection or biographical research) makes this obvious. The subject is entirely oblivious to this in most cases.

>As nature works in an entirely homogeneous way, that is deterministic, the human being is no exception.

>However, humans as intelligent beings can understand this and with more knowledge, can make better decisions and increase the realm of possibilities.

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Sesta-Fosta

Thread for discussing implications of this new law, what effects it has on organization, and what to do about it in the short-term and long-term.

>What is Sesta-Fosta

A burgerland law that holds online platforms responsible for user content. In theory this is targeted specifically at sex traffickers, but in reality is worded so vaguely it could impact any talk of sex work due to frivolous lawsuits. In practice it has already shut down sites not affiliated with trafficking but with "voluntary" prostitution and has resulted in fedbook bans for using the words "sex work" and "escort". Effectively this means hookers and allies will struggle to organize without getting shutdown and that what resources they had to make their activities safer has been removed.

https://theintercept.com/2018/06/13/sesta-fosta-sex-work-criminalize-advocacy/

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/what-is-sesta-fosta-bill/

https://godsandradicals.org/2018/04/24/naked-witness-how-fosta-sesta-is-killing-sex-workers-spells-to-help-survive/

>it's just whores who gives a fuck?

The powers given to the state to deal with "traffickers" can be extended to deal with "extremists", which will of course be us communists. This means that any talk of organizing or discussion of revolution, let alone advocating for it, will potentially be grounds to see our platforms seized and shut down. This destroys organizational capability on a massive scale and reduces us to local organizations at best. If we aren't directly opposing Sesta-Fosta through activism, we should at least take note of how hookers are organizing under this law with the expectation we will have to contend with something similar.

>I'm not a burger so why should I care?

Many yuropoor states like Germany already have agencies that watch communists, it would not be out of the question to see yuropoor states adopt similar laws to go after radicals.

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/Leftypol/ Whine thread

post all your totally undeserved bans/screenshots of mod abuse here, and stop clogging up the rest of the catalog.

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Stalin's Crimes

About time we have this thread.

I'll start, massacre in Katyn.

>The Geneva Convention (1929) was signed at Geneva, July 27, 1929. Its official name is the Convention relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War, Geneva July 27, 1929. It entered into force 19 June 1931.[1] It is this version of the Geneva Conventions which covered the treatment of prisoners of war during World War II.

<The Katyn massacre (Polish: zbrodnia katyńska, "Katyń massacre" or "Katyn crime"; Russian: Катынская резня or Russian: Катынский расстрел Katynskij reznya, "Katyn massacre") was a series of mass executions of Polish intelligentsia carried out by the NKVD ("People's Commissariat for Internal Affairs", the Soviet secret police) in April and May 1940. Though the killings took place at several places, the massacre is named after the Katyn Forest, where some of the mass graves were first discovered.

<The massacre was prompted by NKVD chief Lavrentiy Beria's proposal to execute all captive members of the Polish officer corps, dated 5 March 1940, approved by the Politburo of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, including its leader, Joseph Stalin. The number of victims is estimated at about 22,000.

Executing POWs goes against the Geneva convention, therefore Stalin is a war criminal.

<inb4 USSR did not sign or ratify the convention

>Articles 82 to 97 covers the implementation of this convention. Articles 82 and 83 contained two important clauses. "In case, in time of war, one of the belligerents is not a party to the Convention, its provisions shall nevertheless remain in force as between the belligerents who are parties thereto", and that the provisions of this convention continue to cover prisoners of war after hostilities up to their repatriation unless the belligerents agree otherwise or a more favorable regime replaces it.

Poland signed the convention 27.07.1929 and ratified it 29.06.1932.

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Your thoughts?

They seem like a useful step for us Aus Anarchists, as they wish to set up some direct referendum tools for the public, and the rest of their policies (https://www.sustainableaustralia.org.au/policies) are decent enough. Personally, I'm gonna vote for them, seems a better alternative than any other Australian political party.

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The inevitability of Eugenics

Given the advancements in the fields of gene scanning, and the plummeting costs of embryo selection, its probable that in the next 10 to 20 years, we will start to see a push for Eugenics, especially as Asia starts to surpass the west when it comes these medical technologies, given their laissez faire relationship with Eugenics via family planning. What does Leftypol think of the prospects of Eugenics being possible in our lifetime?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/chinas-embrace-of-embryo-selection-raises-thorny-questions/

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/609204/eugenics-20-were-at-the-dawn-of-choosing-embryos-by-health-height-and-more/

https://www.gwern.net/Embryo-selection

https://nickbostrom.com/papers/embryo.pdf

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2016/12/predictions-of-human-intelligence.html

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Bitcoin fell below 6k

/biz/ going pink, bitcoin is finished.

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THE BOMB HAS BEEN PLANTED

Greetings, from >>>/animu/32247

Dubs sends the bomb to another board.

Trips detonates it.

Quads kills /b/

Quints becomes the new board owner.

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Repatriation

What would it take for you to come back to /leftypol/? Which policies would BO have to drop besides the Rojava stuff?

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Anarchists, why aren't you a Marxist? Marxists, why aren't you an anarchist?

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QUESTIONS

If a company (not "factory," company) comes under worker ownership, what is to stop its now share-holder workers (SHW) from voting to plunder its assets for quick cash? From using its budget to give themselves bonuses to taking furniture home and dismantling entire buildings.

If a country comes under a "pro-worker-ownership" (PWO) dictatorship and all companies are made so, wouldn't there be a slump in production and terrible consecuences for its population? How is production supposed to recover?

If production does recovers to a degree and viable SHW companies emerge, the decision of accepting new members would be crucial, since it is accepting new owners. However, let's say that "company constitutions" are required by the State of SHW companies which define production thresholds for different positions below which members are to be expelled. Still, wouldn't there develop a class of SHW who work in viable companies and a class of sub-employed persons (SEP)? And if a SHW company requires something done to its products, must it install additional capacity, which can soon become superfluous, or can it give the "job" to another company? If so, at what point does that become an employee relationship or a case of selling one's labor?

Finally, what do you do about traffic of influence or "conspiracies of influence" within SHW companies? For example, in a company of 10 persons, 6 of them can conspire among them to vote to get new members accepted. (The conspiracy can run on any combination of "connections," payments under the table and promises of future help on membership.)

If you give large SHW companies as an asnwer, they would probably necessarily become dominated by blocs who negotiate between themselves the acceptance of new members and the activities of the company. Kind of like a congress and its political parties, however (in theory) a congress must always be political and never commercial and a company must always be commercial. Still, payments under the table can always be codified as a crime, of course.

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Why are liberals so afraid of controversy?

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/leftpol/ Baschar al-Assad Meme Thread

Share your best Memes of this noble man!

I am currently looking for some to red pill normalfags (liberals and neocons) on Assad and the imperialist false flag sarin hoax that is about to start WW3 apparently. Please help out a comrade!

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☭ L A B O R W A V E ☭

Post 'em Join us at: reddit.com/r/LaborwaveAesthetics

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Spineless libs n' cons

Why do neoliberals and neocons don't posses a spine? Is it a sickness caused by IDPOL and advocating capitalism?

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BHÛ - The Society Beyond the Spectacle

Just got finished watching this. Very interesting video on transhumanism, I think you guys will enjoy it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gdIvTUlk_Do

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Kwame Nkrumah

I never see this man discussed here. Any opinions? Was he a good leader? Did he focus too much on nationalism and Pan-African unity or was that the right thing to do? What about his books, are they good?

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Corbyn

What do you think about him? Is he lowkey a full on communist?

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What are some good anarcho-individualist books other than spooky Stirner's ego book?

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Differences Between Communism and Socialism

I was hoping someone here would be able to clarify the differences between the two. The majority of readily available articles online are woefully vague, not to mention contradictory. As I understand it:

1. Both Socialists and Communists believe workers should seize the means of production.

2. Both Socialists and Communists want to solve the problem of class hierarchy by abolishing financial inequality.

3. Socialism is a purely economic system whereas Communism is both an economic and a political system?

4. Socialism can be conveyed via different forms of government, whereas Communism must involve a strong state in which a political elite handle everything relevant to a society?

5. Socialism pushes for nationalisation but allows for the existence of small enterprises and the accumulation of capital by its individual workers? Whereas Communism involves complete nationalisation; capital is abolished and distribution is handled by the state, based upon need rather than work done?

6. Privatisation of property is permissible under Socialism, though not privatisation of major businesses? Whereas Communism enforces nationalisation of both?

7. Marx regarded Communism as the telos of Socialism?

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What does leftpol think of 9/11 conspiracy theories?

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Hey /leftpol/ is it ok to talk about gebder identitiy in here? Im a nonbinary transgender individual who is very open minded im cool with neo pronouns, dont think you need physical dysphoria to be trans, trans women are women trans men are men and nonbinary people are nonbinary, and for the most part accepting of the many genders out there but one really bothers me, pangender.

Pangender is racist, saying you are all genders is appropriative of genders specifically for certain cultures if you arent of the race/culture. Two spirit,

hijrafa'afafine, ect.

How does everyone else feel? Specifically other trans spectrum individuals.

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1912 Platform of the Socialist Party of America

http://sageamericanhistory.net/progressive/docs/SocialistPlat1912.htm

Find a flaw.

Protip: you can't.

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Aut-Rightist kills self because of Cyber bullying

(Slightly old news)

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=Ih_9UxMQZFA

>Wearing Revolutionary war cap a White tuxedo and a ebic T*ump pepe meme to let everyone know how much of a BAZED Memer he was

>Tells people who just peppersprayed him "he forgives them" (C U C K E D)

>Kills self because he got "Doxed" despite the fact that he was clearly making no attempts to hide his identity

How much value was lost?

Pic Unrelated / mfw

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Just how "left" is this guy exactly?

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Were you on OWS?

What's life like now? How have your views changed? Has it been long enough for you to grow bitter and disillusioned yet?

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Dubtrack thread

https://www.dubtrack.fm/join/leftypol-comrades

Come do things!

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Why is Anerica always the whipping boy for ideological groups? Whether it be leftpol calling America the super-capitalist porkie", the alt-right calling them the "ultimate cuck/le 56%", "Whore of babylon" by evangelical Christians, or "religious under-educated folk" by the science community, America is always being used as a by-word. Not say it's perfect, but come on, surely ideologues are more diverse in their criticisms.

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Corporate-Socialism, the only way to destroy the far right.

I have a theory, as corporations could profit and help the rise of left wing politics.

As we know, the president of the United States of America and its government are right wing, even far right wing, even more obvious they have a disdain for global politics.

Surprisingly the institution that has done the most these past years for inclusiveness and rights, for immigration policies, for LGBTQIAP+ rights remains some important corporations.

Being a corporation doesn't mean all your existence must be purely all about capitalism, but also acting to provide and distribute wealth and a wage to the rest of the world, and weigh against a totalitarian government, exposing it on the media.

Social media are corporations yet they are fighting the far rights who yell "freedom of speech" while vomiting their bigoted, racist, islamophobic or antisemite, fascist speeches, but despite the right wing government acting in favor of an obsolete document that will defend their right to do this, and own a stockpile of weapons, the corporations can do this.

I predict the only way to survive populism and right wing governance, especially in European Union as things are going (Italy, Poland, Austria, Hungary being dominated by the far right) is through the idea that globalization, communication and corporations CAN and DOES have a positive influence.

Corporations can, and does fund social justice and social movements, and left-wing organizations across the world. Their influence is not usually negative as they are the gears driving social progress and innovation, networks of communications which is nothing less than a form of socialism.

Because by definition, without healthy, diverse people, corporations just can not exist, so just to be simple, if you cannot get rights from a government, it is legitimate that a corporation or a non-elected organization does it for the people. This ideal is really Marxist, but instead of seizing the means of production, the means of production are already determined to serve the people.

Excellent example about firearms, gun control in America, since the government doesn't act, it is important to note that Bank Of America, Wells Fargo, JP Morgan and Citi Group all had programs to ensure to stop the funding of firearms market. This is ethical and this is the right thing to do. The responsible thing to do, to ensure the society to persist, and this is efficient.

Corporations are people and people need corporations, the possibility to work together with less capitalism is here, and this is the future, letting corporations establish a form of governance without the issues of a non-equal capitalist system.

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Anarcho-Mutualism

Many Capitalists say that "Mutualists are Commies in denial!!1!!!1" and then communists say that "Mutualists are capitalists in denial!11!!!1" Like seriously how can you guys can be blindly ignorant?

Mutualism is an economic system based on abolition of private property of the Means of Production (NOT CAPITALISM) and free trade (NOT COMMUNISM). Like literally fuck off with your bullshit. Please I want someone to back their claim with facts, especially Authoritarian Socialists and Liberals who claim to be Communist

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MLs turned anarchists, anarchists turned ML etc. etc. what point or work shifted you to your current position?

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little OC I made inspired by another meme, what do you think

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Define the concept possession

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Korean Anarchists Were NazAn Gang

>The Shinmin Autonomy Marked a coming together of the Nationalist and Anarchist factions of the Korean Independence / Anti-Colonialism movement under the common banner of Korean Independence and Anti-Japanese Colonialism

SHINMIN WAS NATIONAL - ANARCHISM GANG

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Do Conservatives Care About Family?

Yes. But not as human beings, especially the youths.

Women are supposed to be beautiful, intelligent (homemaking/simple academics-wise), obedient, happy stewardesses with canine-like loyalty.

Young people are to be asexual, dutiful churchgoers, forgive their elders of immoral/unethical conduct, be self-sacrificial expendable workhorses and want for nothing.

Conservatism sees the world as a personal playground to be exclusively for them. Children who are born with birth defects, academically weak, raised in broken homes, or are worldly-intuitive (that is they like politics, sex, science, other ethnic lifestyles,etc) are defects to be dealt with severely.

Anytime when society takes a downturn, they like to blame their offspring for them. Things that have been going on long before said generation was old enough to wipe their own asses. Things that the elders have heard about back their prime but ignored.

Now, I think I know why most conservatives are over 30. It's not that they're "wiser" or "mature". They're butthurt that their happy little world is now "gone". They always shrug off the sins and vices of their pop culture icons but point fingers at the younger generations' pop icons. They like to ogle at 13-year old schoolgirls, but they freak out about boy teens jacking off to porn. They like to drink, cuss and fight, but they call the cops on teens fighting.

Basically, right-wing conservatives are fashion divas fallen out of the spotlight.

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Kosovo

What's the deal with Kosovo? Can I have a leftist take on the situation?

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Final Warning Regarding Public Space

>Article the first

Public space is intended for the exchange and circulation of commodities. Like all other commodities, people may move about freely within it.

>Article 2

Public space is space that belongs to no one. What belongs to no one belongs to the State. The State grants to commodity semiocracy the occupation of said space.

>Article 3

Offices are made for working in. The beach is made for tanning on. Those who desire entertainment have leisure spaces, discotheques and other amusement parks set up for such purpose. In libraries there are books. In hospices there are old folks. In stadiums there are families. Life is made up of detachable moments. Every moment in its proper place. Everything is in order. No one complains.

>Article 3 bis.

Disorder also has its own special function. It fits back into the Whole, in the place pre-established for unforeseen events. For the well-being of all, citizens are invited to enter the public way during festivals organized for their attention, at regular intervals, by service teams under the charge of the Ministry of the Interior and the Ministry of Culture. Our ambiance agents are there to serve you. And you could be nice to them, you know, even if you are under their rule; that’s not forbidden.

>Article 4

Every child is assigned an adult-in-charge. That adult is responsible before the law for the behavior of the child attributed to him or her. Because of their still-incomplete psycho-social training, and in the interest of their proper development, children are not to play in public space without surveillance from their assigned adults-in-charge. In any case, children are classed into two groups: hyperactive ones, who receive Ritalin, and hypo-active ones, who are to be put on Prozac.

>Article 5

In the interest of preserving the landscape and respecting the social environment, bodies not conforming with the ruling aesthetic/sanitary norms, as published daily in the national press, will please refrain from circulating in public areas between the hours of nine a.m. and eight thirty p.m. During this time period, however, beggars will be tolerated during the hours of greatest affluence, when they will participate in the common edification of all, by the repulsive example they constitute.

>Article 6

The purpose of life is happiness. Happiness is an objective datum measurable in exact quantities. These days everyone knows: where there’s transparency, there’s happiness; those who don’t seek to show themselves off are just trying to hide, and everything that tries to hide must be considered suspect. Consequently, it is the duty of Biopower to intervene and help make all the opacity in our lives disappear. Biopower wants you to be happy. And if it must, it will want it in spite of you.

>Article 7

For everyone’s safety, public space must be kept entirely under surveillance. Where control is still imperfect, the masses are invited to please keep to themselves all behavior contrary to human dignity. All anonymous gatherings and all abnormal behavior should be reported to the nearest Preventive Surveillance Action (PSA) patrol. Denouncing agents of the Imaginary Party in our midst is the duty of all citizens; do it for your own good and for the good of all.

>Article 8

Public space is neutral space, meaning that therein, all manifestations of singular existence mean an attack on the integrity of others. All available resources are now to be put to work — urban furniture, suitable decors, Continual Control Monitoring (CCM), etc. — to render impossible such demonstrations and the intolerable nuisance they cause to our fellow citizens.

Article 9

We thank all those who have contributed by their good behavior to making these principles go without saying.

>Article 10

NOTHING IS EVER TO HAPPEN AGAIN.

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I wanna become a Ancom or a Ansyn over the summer. What are some good books on them. Is Bakunin good?

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>the right fights for regression

>conservatives fight for slower regression

>liberals fight for the status quo

>leftists fight for the status quo but with smugness

Whats the answer /leftpol/?

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>be post-left post-civ anarcho-nihillegalinsurrectionegoist

>post "the left is deluded and blinded with optimism, revolution will never happen, stop LARPing! read desert and stirner!" on all internet communities I am part of

>press enter, smugly sitting at the computer

<*later*

>go to pharmacy

>shoplift hrt pills

>I go home, having made a victorious blow to the capitalist system far beyond anything the left could ever dream of

>look up at my Bonnot Gang caricature poster, a black and white printout picture on A4, shedding a tear

>"I finally made you proud…"

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Why are so many leftists christian?

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/freedu/ needs banners! / /freedu/ discussion

Hi. I'm the new BO of /freedu/. I would like to revive the board on the lines of what it always has been; a hub of leftist knowledge and a means of free education. However, I've noticed that the board only has five banners. I'd like to at least double it. If any of you are interested, feel free to provide some banners.

Due to 8chan's limitations, banners cannot exceed 500 kb, must be a PNG, JPG, or GIF, and also must be exactly 300x100 pixels. That is 300 pixels wide, by 100 pixels tall.

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Stalinist economics

Does this guy have a point with his take on the 'stalinist model' or is it some kind of socdem/revisionist bullshit?

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The comments section has sympathisers, To arms comrades! It's BBC as well so there will be a big audience of non-leftists.

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Daily News Thread 6/20

EU to launch counter-tariffs against US on Friday

The European Union will launch a raft of retaliatory tariffs against US exports on Friday, a top official has said.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44549712

US quits 'biased' UN human rights council

Announcing the decision to quit the council, Ms Haley described the council as a "hypocritical and self-serving organisation" that displayed "unending hostility towards Israel".

https://www.bbc.com/news/44537372

Trump backs down on migrant family separations policy

US President Donald Trump has bowed to public pressure and signed an executive order promising to "keep families together" in migrant detentions.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44552852

AP FACT CHECK: Trump overstates order on family separation

President Donald Trump is misrepresenting the scope of his executive order that would halt his administration’s policy of separating children from their parents when they are detained illegally crossing the U.S. border.

https://apnews.com/c5a72a2845b5438e8e6c9a32710e25e5

Panama Papers: Mossack Fonseca was unable to identify company owners

A new leak of documents from the offshore service provider at the centre of the Panama Papers scandal reveals the company could not identify the owners of up to three quarters of companies it administered.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44553932

Michael Cohen Has Resigned From the RNC, Sources Say

President Donald Trump’s former personal lawyer Michael Cohen has resigned from the Republican National Committee, people familiar with the matter said, making him the third high-ranking member of the GOP’s top fundraising arm to leave under a cloud this year.

https://outline.com/LtGGbf

White House to propose merging Labor, Education departments: WSJ

The White House plans to propose on Thursday to merge the U.S. departments of Labor and Education, the Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-education-labor/white-house-to-propose-merging-labor-education-departments-wall-street-journal-idUSKBN1JG3KF

Trump Administration Ordered to Stop Harassing Jailed Iraqis

A federal judge ordered the Trump administration to stop immigration authorities from using coercion, intimidation or misinformation to pressure a group of about 130 Iraqis who are long-term U.S. residents into agreeing to be deported.

https://outline.com/HTbyXG

U.S. nuclear expert departs White House in 'regular rotation': officials

The Trump administration’s top nuclear expert involved in talks on ending North Korea’s nuclear weapons programs is leaving the White House as part of a regular rotation, three senior administration officials said on Wednesday.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-nuclear-adviser/u-s-nuclear-expert-departs-white-house-in-regular-rotation-officials-idUSKBN1JG3HC

2 charts show that crime has dropped as immigration rises in the US

As immigration rates have climbed over the past four decades, violent crime rates have significantly declined nationwide, both in urban hubs and smaller towns.

http://www.businessinsider.com/immigration-declining-levels-of-crime-2018-6

Organizer of deadly Virginia rally plans follow-up in Washington

The organizer of a far-right rally last year in Charlottesville, Virginia, that turned deadly is planning to hold a rally near the White House in Washington on the first anniversary of the event, federal officials said on Wednesday.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-virginia-protests-washingtondc/organizer-of-deadly-virginia-rally-plans-follow-up-in-washington-idUSKBN1JG3FQ

Gene-edited farm animals are on their way

Scientists have created pigs that are immune to one of the world's costliest livestock diseases.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-44388038

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What do you guys think about my country?

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Cuba

Cuba is the best of the communist block countries. Prove me wrong ( you cant)

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Daily News Thread 6/19

Kim Jong-un Makes 3rd Trip to China Since March

Chinese state television announced that North Korea leader Kim Jong-un is visiting the country for a two-day trip, starting Tuesday.

https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Kim-Jong-un-Makes-3rd-Trip-to-China-Since-March-20180619-0002.html

US migrant children cry for separated parents on audio

An audio recording in which migrant children in the US can be heard crying for their parents has been released as US President Donald Trump remains defiant over his immigration policy.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44531187

Trump tariffs: US escalates trade threats to China

US President Donald Trump has threatened to impose tariffs on an additional $200bn (£151bn) of Chinese goods in a growing trade row.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44529149

France’s Macron Admonishes Teenager Who Calls Him ‘Manu’

A video of French President Emmanuel Macron admonishing a teenager who called him by a nickname went viral on social media Tuesday.

https://outline.com/ud5GmM

The Latest From t*rkey’s Presidential Campaign Trail

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan spoke at a rally in Van on Tuesday, attempting to shore up support in the heavily Kurdish east of the country with just five days to go before elections.

https://outline.com/Dc57dg

No F-35s for t*rkey: US Senate blocks sale of fighter jets to Ankara

US Senators have voted to block the sale of F-35s to t*rkey, slamming their NATO ally for plans to buy Russian S-400 missile batteries. Ankara warned of “an alternative” should the deal be called off.

https://www.rt.com/news/430222-senate-bans-f35-turkey/

Italian populist Salvini sparks row over counting Roma

Italy's right-wing populist Interior Minister, Matteo Salvini, has prompted a new outcry by saying he wants a census of the Roma community that would lead to non-Italians being deported.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44531448

Russia & India ditching US dollar in defense deals

Moscow and Delhi are seeking to bypass US sanctions by using the rupee and the ruble in facilitating military deals, according to Indian daily, the Economic Times.

https://www.rt.com/business/430185-russia-india-defense-deals-dollar/

Australians' trust in U.S. sinks to lowest in over decade amid Trump presidency

Australians’ trust in the United States as a global power is at its lowest in over a decade, and they have more confidence in the leaders of China and India than they do in President Donald Trump “to do the right thing regarding world affairs”, according to survey released on Wednesday.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-australia-us-poll/australians-trust-in-u-s-sinks-to-lowest-in-over-decade-amid-trump-presidency-idUSKBN1JF1Y6

Trump space force: US to set up sixth military branch

President Donald Trump has ordered the US military to establish a sixth branch of its armed forces - a "space force".

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44527672

Tucker Carlson tells Fox viewers that the 'ruling class' cares 'far more about foreigners' than 'their own people' in monologue on immigration

Tucker Carlson on Monday claimed the outrage on the left over the Trump administration's separation policy is "performance art" and told his viewers that the "ruling class" doesn't really care about migrant families being separated at the border.

http://www.businessinsider.com/tucker-carlson-ruling-class-doesnt-care-about-migrant-children-separating-families-2018-6

Americans own nearly half world's guns in civilian hands: survey

Americans make up 4 percent of the world’s population but owned about 46 percent of the estimated 857 million weapons in civilian hands at the end of 2017, a survey showed on Monday.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-guns/americans-own-nearly-half-worlds-guns-in-civilian-hands-survey-idUSKBN1JE220

Americans grapple with recognizing facts in news stories: Pew survey

Only a quarter of U.S. adults in a recent survey could fully identify factual statements - as opposed to opinion - in news stories, the Pew Research Center found in a study released on Monday.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-pew-news/americans-grapple-with-recognizing-facts-in-news-stories-pew-survey-idUSKBN1JE1MF

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Wake me up inside

https://www.dailydot.com/irl/sex-robot-unwanted-advances/

>CAN'T WAKE UP

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The EU Wants To Destroy The Internet

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180525/10072939912/forget-gdpr-eus-new-copyright-proposal-will-be-complete-utter-disaster-internet.shtml

Just more proof of how the European Union is a corrupt organization run by porky and his minions.

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So regarding Trump's protectionist and authoritarian policies, I'm guessing that you tankies don't like him because he's bringing corporations back to America to provide the [actual] working class with jobs and you ancoms don't like him because Tyrone/Carlos won't be able to sexually liberate your partner's gender-fluid XX child without facing the death penalty.

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Communist Skeleton Summoning Thread

ITT Baba Yaga/ LEL summons commie skeletons from The Bone Zone.

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So now there are femcels

On Reddit a trending sub is true femcels which is literally women claiming to be incel. The arguments are different than the male variant

For one, the women say that its not about sex at all. That they want romantic partnerships but men only want sex and refuse to settle for them because all men want Stacies. This sounds…kinda stupid and that's kinda what a lot of the manosphere is upset about is whores. Not to mention if all men wanted was sex why would there be religion and shit? But whatever.

The point is incels are becoming normalized and we to seize the opportunity and accelerate further! I see bitches trying to get dudes back on the plantation as one was arguing with me about marriage where I said you dont need marriage for monogamy and marriage is a tool by women to control men and she said "no shit. Because you horn dogs will just go out and fuck a failed Stacy as soon as you get the chance."

Incorrect line or not i see a lot of potential with these femcels and the whole cel thing in general.

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Left Forum

Goddamnit I missed the Left Forum when it was live. Why weren't you talking about this last week, anons?

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I'm kinda new to the Social-Anarchist scene and I'm a bit confused about the distinctions between Ancoms, Anarcho-Collectivists, and Anarcho-Syndicalists, are there any books you guys might recommend?

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How likely is it that Trump will force him to go full Deng-mode and give up his nukes?

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So, do you guys actually do anything?

I mean, as unfortunately fun as I find posting here, it's for some reason just now hitting me how divorced from "reality" it is. No matter how many books I read or things I write for wherever I may write, none of it amounts to striving for real, material change.

I've tried to look for anarchist or even just socialist organizations in my area (small city in the Midwest US) and they're all either inactive/defunct or (well meaning) middle class reformist liberals LARPing. I know my area isn't exactly a hotbed for radical activity but I guess I'm just a little lost on how to actually get involved and act on my principles.

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OwO…whats this?

But seriously wtf?

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Daily News Thread 6/18

China's tariffs on U.S. oil would disrupt $1 billion monthly business

China’s threat to impose duties on U.S. oil imports will hit a business that has soared in the last two years, and which is now worth almost $1 billion per month.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-china-oil-graphic/chinas-tariffs-on-u-s-oil-would-disrupt-1-billion-monthly-business-idUSKBN1JE0CD

Trump migrant separation policy: Children 'in cages' in Texas

Reporters and Democratic lawmakers have been allowed inside a detention centre that lies at the heart of a growing storm over a new US policy separating migrant children from their parents.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44518942

Trump wades into German migration row

US President Donald Trump has attacked the German government's approach to immigration, as he comes under pressure over his own crackdown on migrants.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44524873

UN Urges End to Trump's Policy of Family Separation

The top U.N. human rights official called on the Trump administration on Monday to halt its "unconscionable" policy of forcibly separating children from migrant parents irregularly entering the country via Mexico.

https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/UN-Urges-End-to-Trumps-Policy-of-Family-Separation-20180618-0010.html

Colombian Far-Right Candidate Duque Wins Presidential Elections

One hour after the polls closed on Sunday for the second round of Colombian presidential elections, electoral authorities announced that far-right candidate Ivan Duque won over the leftist alternative Gustavo Petro with 53,98 percent versus 41,81 percent as 100 percent of the vote was counted.

https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Colombian-Far-Right-Candidate-Duque-Wins-Presidential-Elections-20180617-0016.html

Syrian, Iraqi forces say U.S. bombs military border positions, U.S. denies

Syrian state media said on Monday that U.S.-led coalition aircraft had bombed a Syrian army position near the Iraqi border, causing deaths and injuries, but the U.S. military denied it was responsible.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-usa/syrian-iraqi-forces-say-u-s-bombs-military-border-positions-u-s-denies-idUSKBN1JD11G

Turkish, U.S. units begin patrols near northern Syria's Manbij

Turkish and U.S. soldiers have started independent patrols in northern Syria along the line separating t*rkish-controlled areas from the town of Manbij where Ankara says Kurdish militia fighters are based, t*rkey’s military said on Monday.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-turkey/turkish-u-s-units-begin-patrols-near-northern-syrias-manbij-idUSKBN1JE1A3

Supreme Court Casts Doubt on Statewide Gerrymandering Challenges

The U.S. Supreme Court set aside a finding that Republicans violated the Constitution with GOP-friendly voting lines for the Wisconsin Assembly, casting doubt on the ability of voters to challenge statewide maps for being excessively partisan.

https://outline.com/DyjM83

Coal Plants Keep Shutting Despite Trump’s Order to Rescue Them

President Donald Trump has ordered a rescue of the nation’s struggling coal and nuclear power industries, but that doesn’t mean utilities are reconsidering the shutdown of unprofitable plants.

https://outline.com/sZqpyZ

Texas cop 'abused migrant girl and threatened to deport mum'

A Texas sheriff's deputy has been arrested for abusing a four-year-old girl and threatening her undocumented immigrant mother with deportation.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44523536

Compulsive video-game playing could be mental health problem

Obsessive video gamers know how to anticipate dangers in virtual worlds. The World Health Organization says they now should be on guard for a danger in the real world: spending too much time playing.

https://apnews.com/309e0d17ea024b8b8a6bac92d8d3cd09/Compulsive-video-game-playing-could-be-mental-health-problem

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Whats the number one way to fight idpol? Please don't say "just ignore them" because its not working

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Why is SAlt So hated / Such a meme?

I dont exactly know much about SAlt on account of me not being a Burger and because the AUS branch is basically exclusively a Melbournite clique

But How come they Have become this imfamous / such a meme in the leftist Community?

From what little i know of them they seem just like the average Red-Lib / Soc-Dem / Trot group?

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I love how the 'red pill' is being liberalized

Like, its now some to the point where we have tumblr feminists taking the 'red pill.' I swear, any day now there is going to be a buzzfeed article that's like "being a red pill feminist."

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Combatting weaponized mass surveillance and AI

Hey, I didn't see a thread up about this and I wanted to pose the question.

Listen to this discussion here about what the fucking state-fascist Amazon x Law Enforcement is rolling out in various poor neighborhoods:

https://theguillotinepodcast.libsyn.com/amazon-facial-recognition-1984-in-newark-ice-disappearing-children-maoism

Warning, listening this podcast will make grown men cry

also this terrifying warning about autonomous AI: https://hooktube.com/watch?v=DK6IGG5zRU8

The discussion I'd like to have is on what exactly can be done, as Bones puts it very succinctly, this kind of facial recognition garbage is just like the technology of the machine gun in WWI. Droves of men just walked into the line of fire and dropped, because they had never encountered such a menace. Now, what will happen when you call up a self-driving car, it recognizes you as having done activism, or you're generally on the wrong-think list, and the doors lock and you're driven away to a blacksite? I'm also sure that all these insane police killings were let loose on Americans just -so that- liberals find the funds for police body cams, then those body cams get equipped with recognition, then we're even more fucked than before. Instead of dismantling the police state, we've equipped them with our worst nightmare.

As Count Alfred Korzybski points out, as he wrote just after witnessing WWI, human society advances its technology, at great human cost, and then only after there is a gigantic upheaval/revolution/bloody insurrection does ethics start getting put into place. This advance in technology seems to be rolling forward at full steam, and the danger is that it gets in place with no ethics involved, then starts replicating itself on racist, white supremacist, or just straight up capitalist ideals, and there is no reset button by the initiative for common weal.

What do you say? What can be done against this, voting surely is off the table, we didn't even vote this stuff in. The corrupt, stinking institution just rolls forward, and it seems we are heading for a future where if you even look the wrong way, you're put on a list, and then captured any time you try to make a sound.

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Why are current leftists out of touch?

>Most leftists dont consider themselves part of the working class and use the term proletariat as if to distance themselves from the "sheeple"

>spend their time arguing over the finer points of theory

>When they get really pent up they burn off steam at party meetings and rallies

>Treat the non rich as cannon fodder and an obstacle to the revolution

>Constantly sing the song organization which really only means echo chamber construction

>Hype themselves up by getting high off the supply of their own propaganda while it never reaches actual people

>using 19th century tactics in $CURRENT_FUCKING_YEAR

Lets say we kill leftism. All the tactics and theory we have works best for an old time. What can we create for today?

Also consider this a post-leftist/dark wojak thread

I fucking love dark wojak

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The UK / Tommy Robinson

>Some semi-famous Random Right-Wing E-Celeb gets sent to jail for a year for breaching his bail conditions on a Non-Political Fraud Charge

<"You SEE???!!!! THIS is evidence that the Islamig gommunist Bolshevik Socialist UKSSR police state is trampling us TRUE BRITISH PATRIOTS!!!"

<"Free Muh Man Tommy mate! His name was Tommy Robinson! Free my Man Tommy!!!"

>Person in jail is moved to a Prison

<"SEE??? SEE??? This is Clearly a plot by the Islamig communist UKSSR gov to ASSASSINATE HIM!!111!!!!"

Do Bongs actually care about this?

Or is it just another episode of a Bunch of Burgers Heroizing and over-glorifying some "Literally who?"

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Communization

What is this tendency about exactly? It seems that communizers view communism not as something to be establish after the revolution, but rather the content of the revolution itself, is that a fair definition? There is also a lot of overlap with insurrectionary anarchism, especially in Tiqqun.

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After carefully observing leftist boards i came to the conclusion that these communities are harmless with the exception of it's memebers to each other.

These alternative reality bubbles create a false and unrealistic point of view that distantce the members who acquire these viewpoints from actual reality.

By denying actual reality around them, they may cause mental stress and even damage to themselves and to other members of the group.

I suggest you start rehabilitating yourselves by abandoning these reality bubbles and come in contact with actual reality before you do serious damage to your health, both in mind and body.

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The case for post-capitalism and the rise of a new socialist movement

Hello again /leftpol/, last time I asked around about the whole concept and your opinion in the concept of autarky and had an overall good discussion but now I have another one.

I have been reading some books and papal encyclicals about a Distributism and Catholic Corporatism (for example the one that existed in my country) and there is an interesting point that some authors (albeit slightly influenced by disgruntled socialists in the late 80) make, that being that socialism is the logical conclusion to capitalism.

I can understand that concept but from my knowledge of the situation of the current old-left and the inner conflicts that breed within it I have some questions:

Do you believe that when said time comes the various spectrums of the left (for example full on tankies and anarchists) will be able to unite or live in separate spaces?

>I make this question since there are some obvious differences between said political philosphies/theories and we can even see it in this separation of this board and leftypol

Which countries would be the first to achieve such material conditions to put in place socialism.

And to end it, what measures do you think capitalists would put in place to stop the advance of socialism when for example (and this is the case that is mostly pointed out by the authors that I read) automatization becomes a thing.

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transracial identity is now ok

The Left is now defending "transracial" identity.

It's apparently OK to be a white person who "identifies" as black. But not just any white person - Rachel "NAACP" Dolezal, a virtual fucking meme. She became famous in 2015 when she was outed as a white person pretending to be black. She was the leader of her local NAACP branch as well as an served in a capacity as instructor in some kind of Black Studies program. (She claimed to be a professor.) Apparently she also sued Howard University in 2002 because they allegedly discriminated against her for being…white.

WSWS has just published an article promoting a documentary about her and defending her insanity.

Furthermore, the related notions that one cannot “identify” with a race or ethnicity apart from one’s own and that the categories “whiteness” and “blackness” might as well exist on different planets are profoundly reactionary.

Read it here:

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/06/15/rach-j15.html

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Individual choice thread

I've noticed this habit in the far left that's starting to bake my beans. Complete political apathy. They consider organizing in real life "LARPing", which admittedly tends to be the case with things like ANTIFA. Some leftists, mostly MLs, also hate using voting as a tactic which as a anarchist I agree with. Yet they think they can "vote" a communist party into power to create a socialist state, which makes no sense. I think in this post-post ironic phase sincere effort is seen as cringey. But nothing gets done without sincere effort. So for those of your who arent middle schoolers lets discuss some of the choices you can make that have a big impact.

>Go vegan/vegetarian

This is probably one of the biggest ones. Meat is extremely intensive on the environment and minimizing it your diet is one of the best things besides not having kids. You dont have to shirk meat entirely though. I still have meat but mostly for flavoring, like including bits of bacon in a large pot soup for richness. Its also really healthy.

<DONT FORGET THE B12

>Make media

Leftist literature sucks. Dont try to argue this one. Its long, harsh, and very unwelcoming. There's nothing that turns of newcomers worse than getting slammed with a bunch of book reccs. Although this may seem like they're getting educated, in reality they just collect proudhon pdfs on their computer. So make infographics, make videos, and make articles. Get newcomers hooked an informed and then suggest the hard stuff. The right has been successful because they managed to distill their ideas into easily spreadable forms. Check out ancap channels like bitbutter that spread the message. The concepts may be false but its well spread.

>FOSS

Use free software anywhere and everywhere. Suggest it to all. In the digital age, freedom in computing is paramount. Check out the install gentoo wiki and privacytools.io for specifics.

>HYDRA

STOP CENTRALIZING. Leftists hate when they're subject to fascist mods. STOP STAYING ON SITE. Use raddle.me, libcom.org, matrix chats, irc chats, or whatever. You dont have to be limited to one site. This only hurts us.

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Is he socialist or what did he meant by that?

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What's leftpol's stance on the holocaust?

What's leftpol's stance on the holocaust?

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So now that the dust has settled, or rather fire, wtf was his problem?

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Daily News Thread 6/15

Paul Manafort jailed by judge for alleged witness tampering

Donald Trump's former campaign manager Paul Manafort has had his bail revoked by a Washington DC judge and has been ordered to jail pending trial.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44500034

Trump puts 25% tariff on Chinese goods

US President Donald Trump is to impose 25% tariffs on $50bn worth of Chinese goods, accusing Beijing of intellectual copyright theft.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44498484

China strikes back: Beijing sets 25% tariff on $50 bln worth US products

Responding to US President Donald Trump’s decision to impose tariffs on $50 billion worth of Chinese imports, Beijing has adopted a 25 percent tariff on 659 American products worth the same amount.

https://www.rt.com/business/429906-china-responds-tariffs-trump/

Mexican leftist frontrunner widens lead for presidency: poll

Mexican presidential frontrunner Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador extended his lead to nearly 17 points over his nearest rival ahead of the July 1 vote, according to a poll published on Sunday.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mexico-election-poll/mexican-leftist-frontrunner-widens-lead-for-presidency-poll-idUSKBN1J700K

U.S. to take 'firm, appropriate measures' against Syria violations

The United States will “take firm and appropriate measures” in response to Syrian government violations in a designated de-escalation zone in the country’s southwest, the State Department said on Thursday.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-zone/us-to-take-firm-appropriate-measures-against-syria-violations-idUSKBN1JB094

Yemen war: Government forces 'not attacking' Hudaydah port

Yemen's government has said it will not attack a port critical to aid efforts in the country, as its forces advance on the rebel-held city of Hudaydah.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-44491710

South African Towns Are Falling Apart

Mismanagement, graft and declining fortunes are decimating local finances, while many people who can leave for opportunities in big cities.

https://outline.com/tPgBb3

Pressure Grows on Brazil's Underperforming Centrist to Give Way

With Brazilian voters showing little sign of enthusiasm for the presidential bid of former Sao Paulo Governor Geraldo Alckmin, the leading establishment candidate is coming under increasing pressure to quit the race.

https://outline.com/3mKxyd

Macron and Italian PM Conte back EU 'asylum centres' in African nations

Italy and France have jointly expressed support for EU "asylum centres" to be set up in countries where many migrants begin their journeys to Europe.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44494006

AP Exclusive: About 2,000 minors separated from families

About 2,000 children have been separated from their families at the border over a six-week period during a crackdown on illegal entries, according to U.S. Department of Homeland Security figures obtained by The Associated Press Friday.

https://apnews.com/3361a7d5fa714ea4b028f0a29db1cabc

US attorney general quotes Bible to defend separating families

US Attorney General Jeff Sessions has been criticised for citing Bible scripture to back up the Trump administration's immigration policy.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44499048

Deadly brain-eating parasite strikes Louisiana water supply

A brain-eating amoeba has been detected in the Louisiana water system - the third time the potentially deadly organism has been found in the same district since 2015.

https://www.rt.com/usa/429826-brain-eating-amoeba-water/

Soaring costs, loss of benefits top Americans' healthcare worries: Reuters/Ipsos poll

For over a year now, Americans have listed healthcare as the most important problem facing the country, according to Reuters/Ipsos polling.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-healthcare-worries/soaring-costs-loss-of-benefits-top-americans-healthcare-worries-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKBN1JB1FD

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Ben Shapiro said something smart?

Before you laugh, hear me out: someone on a leftist forum recommended a video by Ben Shapiro where he talks about the Anthony Bourdain suicide. In this video he says two things that I think a lot of people on here will find interesting.

>1. The suicide rate is higher for rich and upper-middle class people than for people living in poverty

>2. The reason the suicide rate in the west is rising is because the culture is becoming increasingly focused on consumerism, and is lacking a higher purpose or cause to work for. He also points out that people who are suicidal end up doing community work, because it gives them a sense of purpose.

You can watch the full video here: https://hooktube.com/watch?v=lAxS207lCNE.

Thoughts?

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What was written in the book? leftpol?

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Postmodernism

Pomo isn't all too popular around here, and I can surely see why. It's hard to take its extreme relativism and its conceiving of reality in terms of "narratives" seriously. However I do think the postmodern criticists provide a valuable counterweight to the blind trust many people have in the "objectivity" of the stories put out by the liberal media, which are typically dripping with ideology. Moreover a lot of pomo is closely related to actual marxist critiques such as Society of the Spectacle. In other words I think /leftpol/ (and /left*pol/) is too quick to denounce the entirety of postmodernism as merely a gateway to liberal idpol. Opinions?

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Kim Jong Un - The great reformer

This man will be remembered as the greatest leader in the history of North Korea.

He's the first to open up talks with the west. When he killed his uncle with an anti-aircraft gun in 2016 he had good reason. His uncle was part of the corrupt old guard that was resistant to change.

He's also introduced new cultural policies, which have made North Korea look more modern to the rest of the world, an example of this is the Moranbong Band mean to emulate south Korean "k-pop" while still singing nationalistic music.

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=ADN0H6MREHA

Under his rule the North Koreans united with the south for the first time during the 2018 olympics.

The standard of living for his people has also gotten better under his leadership.

He's going to bring North Korea out of the dark ages while still preserving it's socialist principals. Mark my word, he'll be seen as a great leader when his reforms are complete, even within western circles.

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/DIY/ + cultivation & cooking General

Let's have a DIY thread the last one was nuke into oblivion

-Cooking

-Electronics

-Survival

-Farming

-Gunsmithing/Blacksmithing

-Open Source Projects

Previous thread :

https://8ch.net/leftpol/res/4151.html

https://archive.fo/VmmOt

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Daily News Thread 6/16

US expected to quit UN Human Rights Council over ‘chronic anti-Israel bias’

The United States is about to quit the United Nation's main human rights body, primarily over Washington's claim that the Human Rights Council is biased against Israel, a Western and a U.S. diplomat say.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/when-not-if-u-s-poised-to-quit-un-s-human-rights-council-1.3975764

China Targets U.S. Farm Imports With Tariffs on Soy, Corn

Trade tensions between the U.S. and China ratcheted higher after the Asian nation said it will follow through on plans to levy tariffs on a range of American farm goods including soybeans and corn.

https://outline.com/kwFcUq

Trade tariffs: Chinese media in Trump 'fools build walls' jibe

Chinese media have mocked US President Donald Trump over plans to impose 25% tariffs on $50bn worth of Chinese goods, saying "wise men build bridges but fools build walls".

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-44505448

Spain 'accepts French offer' to receive migrants aboard Aquarius

Spain says it has accepted an offer from France to take in some of the 630 migrants rescued by the Aquarius ship off Libya and turned away by Italy.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44507902

Trump Envoys' Middle East Trip `Waste of Time,' Palestinians Say

Top U.S. diplomats heading to the Middle East to discuss their plan to settle the Israel-Palestinian conflict are wasting their time if they disregard previous Arab initiatives to reach peace, according to the spokesman for Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas.

https://outline.com/ck9ptT

Islamic State says behind Afghanistan car bombing which kills 26 during Eid

A car bomb killed at least 26 people at a gathering of Taliban and Afghan armed forces in the eastern city of Nangarhar on Saturday, an official said, as soldiers and militants celebrated an unprecedented Eid ceasefire.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-afghanistan-taliban/car-bomb-kills-26-during-eid-ceasefire-in-east-afghanistan-idUSKBN1JC044

Mexican Mayoral Candidate Becomes Murder Victim Number 114

Mexican mayoral candidate Alejandro Chavez Zavala was gunned down after a campaign event Thursday afternoon in La Florida, Taretan, as the political violence plaguing the nation continued to escalate ahead of the elections.

https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Mexican-Mayoral-Candidate-Becomes-Murder-Victim-Number-114-20180615-0013.html

Pentagon’s New Helicopter for Afghans Lacks Lift of Old Russian Ones

The U.S. Army’s Black Hawk helicopters are less capable for some missions conducted by Afghanistan’s Air Force than the Russian-made ones they’re replacing, according to the Pentagon’s inspector general.

https://outline.com/gND6q8

U.S. prosecutors pull encrypted messages from phones seized in Cohen raids

Federal prosecutors investigating U.S. President Donald Trump’s longtime personal lawyer Michael Cohen have extracted more than 700 pages of messages sent using encrypted programs like WhatsApp and Signal on phones seized from Cohen, according to a court filing on Friday.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-cohen/u-s-prosecutors-pull-encrypted-messages-from-phones-seized-in-cohen-raids-idUSKBN1JB2V3

Border Patrol vehicle strikes Native American, drives away

U.S. Border Patrol officials have opened an investigation after video surfaced showing an agency vehicle striking a man on a Native American reservation in Arizona and driving away, The New York Times reported.

https://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2018/06/video_of_border_patrol_suv_hit.html

Union defeats Deliveroo in latest round of gig economy rights case

The High Court ruled on Friday that a British trade union should be granted a judicial review of a decision not to allow it to represent food courier Deliveroo’s riders in a part of London as it pushes for worker rights in the gig economy.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-deliveroo/uk-union-wins-right-to-push-for-recognition-at-deliveroo-idUKKBN1JB19F

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America Hate Thread

NOW ALL PROUD AMERICANS STAND WITH THE NATIONAL ANTHEM AND SING

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2wnl35

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WHY do Republicans Hate George Soros

George Soros has always worked in the career of finance and currency. Working in banks, working in arbitrage [taking advantage of price differences in two places to make profit], and finally becoming a hedge fund manager in 1969 with the creation of "Soros Fund Management". That organization is still around to this day actually! Soros Fund Management is the primary adviser for the Quantum Group of Funds; a family of funds dealing in international investments. What kinds of international investments? Black Wednesday, when George Soros shorted the UK Pound and made a billion dollars. The 1997 Asian Financial Crisis, where he and some other hedge funds led to the collapse of the economy of Thailand. And in 1988 - Soros learned that insider trading was going on in France but did not alert the authorities; his defense being that he thought it was common knowledge!

As of 2018 the net worth of George Soros in $25,200,000,000 or Twenty-Five Point Two BILLION dollars. As he's grown older he's putting more of his money into his "Open Society Foundation" which donates MILLIONS to local elections to advocate for far left policies like weakening law enforcement [likely to push a policy of a national police state][Because Soros is on record saying he wants a federal police force]. People on the left call this interference "Philanthropy" - people on the Right, call it a billionaire shaping politics for his own twisted desires. What do you think? Comment down below!

https://youtu.be/1eqHsDFsrkY

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Revleft moderator Rafiq attacks anime and hentai

I just a university exam yesterday so i will be brief,i go on leftypol everyday to relax with good memes and today i found this image showing a moderator from the revleft forum attacking anime and hentai fans and calling them pedos.

Is there a reason why this moderator is attacking anime fans other than to get some internet street credit?

He also comes off as massive white knight for feminists to the point that he even attacks homosexuals at some point in his rant.

Why is this guy throwing anime and hentai culture under the bus?

Because it offends feminists?

Because it offends his shitty old man sensibilities?

So what?

If you think that attacking a culture or group,in this case anime only because some of your allies hate it and some of your enemies like it you are a small minded bully.

I thought kicking *the little guys*,minority and groups considered deviants by the wider culture for personalaggrandizement and prestige was something that only the right wing does,this is even mentioned by the studies on the autoritarian personality made by Adorno.

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Daily News Thread 6/14

Dem senators move to halt potential U.S. troop withdrawal from S. Korea

A pair of Democratic senators on Wednesday introduced an amendment to the annual defense policy bill that would stop President Trump from withdrawing U.S. forces from South Korea without the Pentagon's input.

https://outline.com/wDphwr

Russia vows consequences after Norway invites more U.S. Marines

Russia vowed on Thursday to retaliate for a plan by Norway to more than double the number of U.S. Marines stationed there.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-norway-usa-russia/russia-vows-consequences-after-norway-invites-more-u-s-marines-idUSKBN1JA1UB

Cuba Sends Teams of Doctors to Assist Guatemala After Volcano

A brigade of Cuba’s finest doctors is traveling to Guatemala after the nation suffered a disastrous volcanic eruption last week, Cuba’s Medical officials said Wednesday.

https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Cuba-Sends-Teams-of-Doctors-to-Assist-Guatemala-After-Volcano-20180613-0028.html

North Korea sanctions remain until complete denuclearisation, says US

North Korea will not see any economic sanctions lifted until it has demonstrated "complete denuclearisation", US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has said.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44478395

EU nations back retaliating against U.S. steel tariffs

European Union countries on Thursday unanimously backed a plan to impose import duties on 2.8 billion euros ($3.3 billion) worth of U.S. products after Washington hit EU steel and aluminum with tariffs at the start of June, EU sources said.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-eu/eu-nations-back-retaliating-against-u-s-steel-tariffs-idUSKBN1JA27W

Europe's Fragile Unity Crumbles as Migration Quarrel Spills Over

Three summers after Europe’s biggest migration influx since World War II, the old wounds are reopening.

https://outline.com/BVkZhs

F-35 jet security breach reported, Brit arrested over plot to sell secrets to China

A man has been arrested by counterterrorism police, accused of plotting to sell military secrets to the Chinese. Scotland Yard has confirmed that a man in his 70s has been arrested, suspected of breaching the Official Secrets Act.

https://www.rt.com/uk/429707-china-arrest-sell-secrets-miltary/

US Secret Service employee among 2,300 suspected child sex offenders nabbed in nationwide operation

A three-month operation has resulted in the arrest of more than 2,300 suspected child sex offenders, including a Secret Service employee, the Justice Department has announced. The investigation also identified 383 abused children.

https://www.rt.com/usa/429745-child-sex-offenders-arrested/

New York sues Trump Foundation for 'illegal conduct'

New York's attorney general announced on Thursday she was suing the Trump Foundation, as well as Donald Trump and his children, alleging "extensive and persistent" lawbreaking.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44486250

iPhone security loophole used by police closed by Apple

Apple says it is to change the default settings of its iPhone to stop hackers and others unlocking devices without proper legal authorisation.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44477887

Cheesecake Factory held jointly liable with contractor for $4.2 million in janitorial wage theft case

A state investigation found that janitors at eight Southern California Cheesecake Factory restaurants worked without proper rest or meal breaks.

https://outline.com/xrRhnc

US jogger who dumped homeless man's belongings arrested

A California jogger filmed dumping a homeless man's belongings in a lake is accused of stealing a bystander's phone as he recorded him a day later.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44474366

Antarctica loses three trillion tonnes of ice in 25 years

Antarctica is shedding ice at an accelerating rate.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-44470208/

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Let's have an appreciation thread for Kim Il-Sung

In my opinion he was one of the greatest socialist leaders of the 20th century.

>fought the Japanese fascists in a partisan war, literally became a war hero

>transformed Korean society into a socialist society without any famines or mass killings, meanwhile the South killed hundreds of thousands

>established a fucking worker democracy through the Daean Work System

>rejected any revisionism of the USSR and China but didn't go full Hoxha autism and remained strategic relations with both countries, played them both

>put a 100% labor tax on agricultural cooperatives, just as Marx suggested in the Critique of the Gotha Program, practically abolished commodity production

>increased the standard to living dramatically, made Korea into a role model for developing countries

>abolished taxes

He did nothing wrong.

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What are some forms of group decision making that dont involve democracy or authoritarian structures? Its hard to believe that in mankinds entire history the best form of fair group decision making is democracy. Can you solve what humanity's best minds cant?

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Let's make meme magic® happen Americans

I'm going to start flyering this all over my city.

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/leftypol/ is recruiting new mods >>>/leftypol/2551209

Look at this shit

>-voice support for NATO intervention, or explicitly state that you support imperialism in any context

>-incite specific acts of terrorism or similar acts (use your head, don't act like a fed)

The redditor coup now will be permanent

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Daily DemCon Meme

Iran is the Big Hetero! they are a stinky nation state and are islamists who back nation statist islamists to create or maintain nation states and capitalism. what a stinky nation state.

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How's your revolution coming along /leftpol/?

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Last april Fortean Times printed two articles that I feel /leftpol/ will find interesting.

One about soviet cosmism and another about meme magic.

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Sometimes you have to fight for what you believe in, or at the least defense yourself and yours against the enemy.

Here are some texts that will help everyone prepare for a war should the fascists get even more out of hand in the future.

Lets start with a book by an ex-US special forces solder. You will need to look past some of the politics of this book, but it is worth reading.

And now, for some links:

A large collection of US army field manuals

https://fas.org/irp/doddir/army/

Some specific manuals that would be extremely useful:

TC 3-21.76 Ranger Handbook, April 2017 - https://fas.org/irp/doddir/army/tc3-21-76.pdf

Training Circular 3-22.9 Rifle and Carbine, May 2016 - https://fas.org/irp/doddir/army/tc3-22-9.pdf

FM 3-05.222. Special Forces Sniper Training and Employment, April 2003 - https://archive.org/details/milmanual-fm-3-05.222-special-forces-sniper-training--employment

TC 3-23.35 Pistol, May 2017 - https://fas.org/irp/doddir/army/tc3-23-35.pdf

ATP 3-21.18. Foot Marches, April 2017 - https://fas.org/irp/doddir/army/atp3-21-18.pdf

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Imminent monetary & financial meltdown

Are you guys ready for this?

Due to deregulation of finance (advocated by the likes of Reagan and Thatcher) and general neoliberal policies, we're going to see a gigantic financial crisis very soon.

There will be something akin to 2008's subprime mortgage crisis, but on an entirely larger scale. The last time, the states bailed the banks out (and the cost was extremely high, causing today's austerity in Western Europe).

I don't think this time the states will be able to pay up. Porky governments will be stunned & unable to react.

There will be a gigantic panic move which will cause porkies to pull their monies from the banks and said banks will crash and burn.

Another issue is that banks are the ones managing the whole payment infrastructure, so credit cards & checks will stop working. Coinage will probably also lose its value.

I personally went to the bank to close off my account and pulled my savings before everybody gets the same idea and there won't be enough for everybody. All leftist movements should start preparing for the next financial crisis because it is going to be the big one.

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Daily News Thread 6/13

California voters to weigh splitting into three states

A billionaire venture capitalist's bid to split California into three separate states has earned a spot on the ballot in November's mid-term elections.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44471277

Trump Says North Korea Poses No Nuclear Threat, Despite Weapons

President Donald Trump declared that North Korea no longer posed a nuclear threat, even though Kim Jong Un hasn’t committed to a timetable for giving up his regime’s weapons.

https://outline.com/Rqs5sM

Turkey’s Election Is Too Close to Call, Bloomberg Poll Shows

Turkey’s election this month could go down to the wire, with President Recep Tayyip Erdogan facing a tougher battle to cement power or even an upset, according to a poll commissioned by Bloomberg.

https://outline.com/Ej6ecB

Yemen war: Saudi-backed forces begin assault on Hudaydah port

Pro-government forces in Yemen, backed by Saudi Arabia, have begun attacking a key port held by rebel fighters.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-44463749

Argentina biggest labor group calls strike, raising pressure on Macri

Argentina’s leading labor federation announced plans on Tuesday to stage a one-day general strike on June 25 to protest against government economic policies, raising pressure on President Mauricio Macri as he moves to speed up spending cuts to balance the budget.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-argentina-politics/argentina-biggest-labor-group-calls-strike-raising-pressure-on-macri-idUSKBN1J82YK

South Africa: Unions Demand Further Reform for Public Workers

The South African Federation of Trade Unions (SAFTU) announced in a press conference Tuesday that it will continue to reject a public sector wage agreement with the country’s Public Service Coordinating Bargaining Council (PSCBC) for what they call a “savage attack on the living standards of public servants.”

https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/South-Africa-Unions-Demand-Further-Reform-for-Public-Workers-20180612-0019.html

The Philippines plans to give its community leaders free handguns to fight drugs and crime

The Philippines' interior ministry said on Wednesday it plans to acquire pistols for community leaders willing to fight crime and drugs, prompting concern it could fuel even more violence in the country's notoriously bloody crackdown.

http://www.businessinsider.com/r-philippines-aims-to-arm-community-leaders-to-help-fight-crime-drugs-2018-6

British and US firms frozen out of €13 billion European Defence Fund

Hopes by British defense firms to keep close links with the EU after Brexit were dashed on Wednesday after they were locked out of a new €13 billion European Defence Fund (EDF).

https://www.rt.com/uk/429629-brexit-defence-eu-funding/

FBI agent Chase Bishop charged after backflip shooting

An off-duty FBI agent who accidentally shot a man while dancing in a Denver nightclub has been charged with second-degree assault.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44465146

'Slap in the Face' to Progressive Outsiders as DNC Adopts Rule Forcing Presidential Candidates to Be Members of Democratic Party

"The DNC has learned nothing."

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/06/09/slap-face-progressive-outsiders-dnc-adopts-rule-forcing-presidential-candidates-be#

Court approves $85bn AT&T purchase of Time Warner

If you have AT&T cell phone or cable service, you’re about to start subsidizing CNN and HBO, under the terms of a $85 billion landmark merger approved by a federal judge over the Trump administration’s objections.

https://www.rt.com/usa/429529-att-time-warner-merger-approved

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What do you think will happen...

…when everyone in The Greater NYC Area starts coming down with Mesothelioma in the next 3-33 years?

>Mesotheliomas related to asbestos exposure take a long time to develop. The time between first exposure to asbestos and diagnosis of mesothelioma is usually between 20 and 50 years. Unfortunately, the risk of mesothelioma does not go down over time after the exposure to asbestos stops. The risk appears to be lifelong.

https://www.cancer.org/cancer/malignant-mesothelioma/causes-risks-prevention/risk-factors.html

How much Asbestos was in The WTC?

Builders constructed the World Trade Center using about 400 tons of asbestos in the structure’s insulation, drywall, fireproofing materials and steel

https://www.asbestos.com/world-trade-center/

How much does it takes for a death sentence?

<No Amount of Asbestos Exposure Is Considered Safe

To put it simply, even brief exposure to asbestos can potentially lead to health risks like mesothelioma, lung cancer, pleural effusions, pleural plaques, and other asbestos diseases after a long latency period. This is just what makes the toxin so dangerous in the first place. The danger of exposure applies for all six types of asbestos, too, though researchers have stated some types are more dangerous than others, like crocidolite asbestos. The most common form, chrysotile asbestos, accounts for about 95% of asbestos used in the past that remains in numerous buildings, homes, and schools. As such, it accounts for the most health problems, but again, all types of asbestos can lead to the same risks.

Any exposure is dangerous because of how the fibers release into the air. Any disturbance to an asbestos-containing material can cause many microscopic asbestos fibers to be released into the air, easy to be inhaled by anyone in the area. They are invisible to the human eye, and many are exposed without even realizing.

Just one brief exposure to small amounts of asbestos can lead to dire consequences. Because of the durability and rigid quality of the fibers, the body cannot break down the foreign toxin and get rid of it. Instead, the fibers will inflame and scar the linings of the lung, abdominal cavity or even heart over time and can develop into mesothelioma or another asbestos-related illness. Early signs of these diseases are also nonspecific, often leading to misdiagnoses and patients facing a more advanced stage of cancer by the time a proper diagnosis is made.

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CUCK

>Catch a fucking CIA spy in your country

>lock him in the intelligence department

>all that precious information at your fingertips

>switch him for literally nothing

How can be this fucking bastard being soo cuck?

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What have white men done lately for the revolution?

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The Struggle Over Gamers Who Use Mods To Create Racist Alternate Histories

>

Here’s what Ted is referring to: Paradox Studios’ Hearts of Iron IV simulates the tumultuous political landscape of the early 20th century, from 1933 to 1949. That was an era of fascism, communism, political revolt, and genocide, and the game’s toolkit lets you play with it all. You could, for instance, take control of the British parliament, plunge it into Nazism, and replace Winston Churchill with the real-life wartime fascist Oswald Mosley. You can also do the same in Germany and build the Marxist, Soviet-sympathizing state that Hitler feared.

https://kotaku.com/the-struggle-over-gamers-who-use-mods-to-create-racist-1826606138

So is Hearts of Iron any good?

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Hungarian Revolution / Prague Spring

So whats the final stance on them?

Were they genuine attempts to reform socialism?

Or just an attempt to Revert them back to capitalism

Does any actual evidence exist that le Workers councils were actually formed inn Hungary

And how do people know that Dubceks Reforms were not just in Preparation for a Capitalist Restoration?

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Macedonia

Balkan wars 2018:Part 1

A new autism

So negotiations have started (with the help of are good friend NATO i am pretty sure) between Greece and FYROM for the whole naming dispute.

TL’DR: You educate us on your opinions on the subject

So…

FYROM:This country seems spooked the whole ancestors of alexander the great is weird to me.Unleast they have a titoist party

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_Tito%27s_Left_Forces

Greece:Muh ancestors, muh culture,muh heritage like the slavic makedonians .This is a big deal in greece our fucking trots split over this(not only about this) and the media with the rigtniggers bich all day about it.

So leftpol the former internationals were challenged by this now its our time to give our opinions…..

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Burger Book store

Went to a bookstore in Burgerland, my god it was rearted. The philosophy section was extremely small compared to the books on religion. And the philosophy part was either more spiritualism, self-help, and liberal hot takes on Marxism.The little leftist content there was by SocDems. There was no Marx, Lenin, Kropotkin, or Eagles. I though there would be some Bookchin because Bookchin is an America, but none of that either. My god We need more Bookstore co-ops.

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Ukrainian famine

So what exactly happened? Was it really due to kulaks hoarding grain and killing livestock combined with drought? Was there no direct negative impact of Stalin's collectivization policies (except for kulaks who opposed it)? Is the idea of a "Holodomor" genocide merely nazi+liberal propaganda, and more importantly is there serious historical evidence for the claim that it is? Anticommunists will always either claim that the famine was a direct result of collectivization or a genocide (or both). Not trying to take a tankie/Stalin dindu nuffin position btw, I'd just like to have an objective view of what exactly happened.

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Why are M-Ls such faggots?

These were the 15 demands made by the revolutionaries in Kronstadt:

1 Immediate new elections to the Soviets; the present Soviets no longer express the wishes of the workers and peasants. The new elections should be held by secret ballot, and should be preceded by free electoral propaganda for all workers and peasants before the elections.

2 Freedom of speech and of the press for workers and peasants, for the Anarchists, and for the Left Socialist parties.

3 The right of assembly, and freedom for trade union and peasant associations.

4 The organisation, at the latest on 10 March 1921, of a Conference of non-Party workers, soldiers and sailors of Petrograd, Kronstadt and the Petrograd District.

5 The liberation of all political prisoners of the Socialist parties, and of all imprisoned workers and peasants, soldiers and sailors belonging to working class and peasant organisations.

6 The election of a commission to look into the dossiers of all those detained in prisons and concentration camps.

7 The abolition of all political sections in the armed forces; no political party should have privileges for the propagation of its ideas, or receive State subsidies to this end. In place of the political section, various cultural groups should be set up, deriving resources from the State.

8 The immediate abolition of the militia detachments set up between towns and countryside.

9 The equalisation of rations for all workers, except those engaged in dangerous or unhealthy jobs.

10 The abolition of Party combat detachments in all military groups; the abolition of Party guards in factories and enterprises. If guards are required, they should be nominated, taking into account the views of the workers.

11 The granting to the peasants of freedom of action on their own soil, and of the right to own cattle, provided they look after them themselves and do not employ hired labour.

12 We request that all military units and officer trainee groups associate themselves with this resolution.

13 We demand that the Press give proper publicity to this resolution.

14 We demand the institution of mobile workers' control groups.

15 We demand that handicraft production be authorised, provided it does not utilise wage labour.[8]

Seems reasonable, however they had to die because much like the scorpion in the Scorpion and the Frog story, the Leninist cannot be anything but a faggot.

<The day after the surrender of Kronstadt, the Bolsheviks celebrated the 50th anniversary of the Paris Commune.

>pic related, faggots running

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Maduro Wins Venezuela Election

Maduro wins Venezuelan election fair and sqaure opposition bitches after telling their own supporters to boycott it

https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Nicolas-Maduro-Wins-Venezuelan-Presidential-Elections-20180520-0032.html

Slightly old news but still important

Never let a Liberal/Reactionary use the Maduro is a DICKtator" meme

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Post-Automation Anti-Natalism

Give me one reason that in a post work Mostly / Entirely Automated socialist / Communist society continued Population expansion will be necessary?

Can any actual reason be given asides from Muh Fee Fees "Think of da Children / future" shit?

So why do most socialists / Communists have such a hard on for Natalism?

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/leftybook/ #2 ''What is Property?'' Edition

What Is Property?: or, An Inquiry into the Principle of Right and of Government

(French: Qu'est-ce que la propriété ? ou Recherche sur le principe du Droit et du Gouvernement) is a work of nonfiction on the concept of property and its relation to anarchist philosophy by the French anarchist and mutualist Pierre-Joseph Proudhon, first published in 1840.

https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/economics/proudhon/property/index.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/20080830074011/http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/toc/modeng/public/ProProp.html (version with pages)

>What this thread is for?

To facilitate understanding and discussion of the text in question, as well as to provide motivation and structure to reading important texts.

>I'm a brainlet who isn't used to reading, what do I do?

Try to keep up with the reading, try to learn from others, try to always keep progressing even if you have to slow down and try to keep an open mind. Highlight important or difficult sections of the text and write down your own notes and ideas somewhere while reading. Don't hesitate to ask questions, chances are someone else is wondering about the same thing you are. Learning and good discussion are more important than false pride or embarrassment over making a basic question. The way out of brainletism is paved with books, friend. You are on the right track.

>I'm the most important academic of the 21st century and probably the millennium, I live and breathe theory, what do I do?

Remember that not everyone is going to dedicate their lives to the academic study of philosophy or society, nor do they need to. Don't take disagreement as a personal attack. Don't stultify, this is a universal learning thread. Wield your knowledge humbly and with grace, and impart it for the betterment of all. Think about the purpose, point and the effect of your posts, not merely their strict content.

>I'm a /pol/ack or a /liberty/an here to laugh at you commie cucks and to drop some red pills about the Jewish paedosexual holohoax market, what do I do?

Read the book so you can BTFO the Red Menace. You can read all about Marx's denial of Human Nature, how communism is when the state makes everyone the same and other leftist stupidity. You can laugh at dumb commies while improving yourself to better Fight the Good Fight! A win-win scenario, unlike the real world where all people(s) are permanently locked in a struggle for survival.

You only get to shitpost ITT if it is relevant to the text.

Schedule

Let's do a week per chapter as a starter, with the last two longer chapters split into two weeks. Chapter 1 21.03. - Chapter 2 28.03. - Chapter 3 04.04. - Chapter 4 18.04 - Chapter 5 02.05. The schedule is merely a guideline and can be adjusted as needed.

Previous book thread:

>>27714 Wage, Labour & Capital http://archive.is/6Xl7u

>Reading is the way out of ignorance, and the road to achievement.

- Ben Carson

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National Bazingism

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Racist cyberbullies from the same forum created:

>Alt right

>Socjus

>Incels

>Chapo and every other ironybro left podcast

>Weird twitter

http://archive.is/WYTSS

http://archive.li/P7tF0

http://archive.li/2V8SG

>inb4 anchor

>inb4 ban

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Did the USSR break a "cycle" of famines?

I've regularly seen people bringing up the point that the USSR actually broke a cycle of famines and shortages that had been ongoing for centuries (and have also used this argument myself when debating rightists). Yet the wikipedia list of famines in Russia mentions a famine in 1891-92, another one almost three centuries earlier in 1601-02 and earlier ones in the Middle Ages. It seems hard to talk about breaking a "cycle" of famines when there was a much more rapid succession of famines in the early Soviet years; the fact that the last decades of the USSR didn't see any famines or major shortages doesn't seem like a convincing argument (aimed at anticommunists) in this light. Does anyone have more information about the pre-soviet famines, food shortages and general health?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droughts_and_famines_in_Russia_and_the_Soviet_Union

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/debatemydad/

So I was trying to get my dad redpilled on marxism, but sadly I've only been into it for a couple months myself and am still unable to shield off a lot of the criticism.

1) One thing he brought up was how socialism/communism (operating in accordance with the labor theory of value) rewards people only for "quantity" of hours worked and not for "quality". In other words it supposedly doesn't motivate workers to deliver quality products. He also went so far to claim that this lack of motivation is why Ladas were crappy, which seems really simplistic to me. I brought up the argument that capitalism doesn't motivate quality either, pointing at inbuilt obsolence and the fact that competition among TV channels doesn't make their content better, but he maintained that capitalism motivates innovation and that the technology we have obtained through capitalist systems proves this.

2) We talked about the possibility of automatization and I actually showed him some David Graeber videos on "bullshit jobs". However I'm not entirely convinced about this concept of bullshit jobs myself. Why do private companies create these kinds of bullshit jobs at all if it's more profitable to automatize them or to abandon those jobs alltogether? It's not like they care about the workers losing their jobs.

Generally my dad is a smart and educated guy. I think with the right arguments he can be convinced. Maybe I need to shill TANS to him seeing as he's an engineer himself but I haven't read it yet myself. What would you respond to his arguments?

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Daily News Thread 6/8

Israeli Troops Kill Three Palestinians as Gaza Protests Resume

For more than two months, Palestinians in the Gaza Strip have been protesting along the fence with Israel, demanding their right to return to the homes and land their families were expelled from 70 years ago.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/04/gaza-protest-latest-updates-180406092506561.html

G7: Trump says Russia should be part of summit

US President Donald Trump says he wants Russia to be part of the G7 group of key industrialised nations.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44409775

U.S. sending 1,600 immigration detainees to federal prisons

U.S. authorities are transferring into federal prisons about 1,600 Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) detainees, officials told Reuters on Thursday, in the first large-scale use of federal prisons to hold detainees amid a Trump administration crackdown on people entering the country illegally.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-prisons-exclusive/exclusive-u-s-sending-1600-immigration-detainees-to-federal-prisons-idUSKCN1J32W1

Trump administration will no longer defend key portions of Affordable Care Act

The Justice Department said the ACA provision requiring most Americans to buy health insurance has become unconstitutional.

http://www.koaa.com/story/38377728/trump-administration-will-no-longer-defend-key-portions-of-affordable-care-act

Aussie special ops 'disregarded humanity', committed 'horrendous' acts in Afghanistan – reports

Soldiers from Australia's elite Special Air Service (SAS) allegedly committed war crimes in Afghanistan, according to a leaked military inquiry. The document notes "violence" and a "disregard for human life" by servicemen.

https://www.rt.com/news/429131-australian-soldiers-crimes-afghanistan/

Hezbollah Vows to Leave Syria Only on Assad's Request

Hezbollah Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah announced that Hezbollah forces would not withdraw from Syria until the country is "liberated" and its "territorial integrity is restored."

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201806081065241434-hezbollah-syria-assad/

Iran slams U.S. for seeking Saudi oil output hike, says OPEC won’t comply

Iran said on Friday a U.S. request for Saudi Arabia to pump more oil so that it could cover a drop in Iranian exports was “crazy and astonishing” and said OPEC would not heed the appeal, setting the stage for a tough OPEC meeting this month.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-oil-opec-iran-exclusive/exclusive-iran-slams-u-s-for-seeking-saudi-oil-output-hike-says-opec-wont-comply-idUSKCN1J415J/

Lush drops 'anti-spy cops' campaign

Cosmetics company Lush has dropped its campaign drawing attention to the so-called UK "spy cops" scandal.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-44413586

Trump’s Food Stamp Work Rules Aren’t in Senate Farm Bill

A Senate committee released a farm bill Friday that doesn’t impose new work requirements on food stamp recipients as sought by President Donald Trump and many House Republicans, setting up a potential fight between the two chambers.

https://outline.com/PtBq4T

Economic Sabotage: Venezuela Dismantles Network Stealing Medicine and Goods

The Venezuelan public ministry announced Thursday they dismantled a network dedicated to the theft of medicine and first-necessity goods.

https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Economic-Sabotage-Venezuela-Dismantles-Network-Stealing-Medicine-and-Goods-20180607-0016.html

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Why isn't George Jackson more well-known?

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Can anyone recommend any books that actually talk about the economic system of Tito's Yugoslavia?

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>Be Burgers at election time

>Vote for le Bazed Right-Populist-Nationalist Hero

<*Gets betrayed by him almost instantly*

>Create a bunch of delusional conspiracy theories as to explain why your meme man hasnt done anything hes promised

<Skip ahead 2 Years

>Some /pol/ meme attempts to Run for office in California gets 0% of the vote and then has a meltdown blaming jews for pulling a fire Alarm and shutting down his marketplace of ideas

>At the same time some other /pol/ meme running for office outright admits to being a pedarrest and promptly loses

So is THIS is the power of the NEW COUNTERCULTURE???

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Lauran Southern Embarrasses Herself

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=8nzUMsN0l58

So le Epic Aut-Right meme Women Lauren Southern went to Russia and Interviewed Alexander Dugin (One of the Founders of THE NAZBOL GANG) and basically embarrassed herself on account of her interviewing a fucking meme (No one in Russia takes Dugin Seriously and he is basically Ruskie Alex Jones complete with ranting about the devil and cyborg Aliens )

>Comments

<Russians Making fun of Her for Interviewing a meme

<People pointing out shes interviewing a Russian state Propagandist

<Her Fans shitting on Her and calling her a Gommie Jew for Interviewing someone whose political party had Bolshevik in its name

<Her fans Calling her a A.N.T.I W.H.I.T.E Jioo because she interviewed a Eurasianist

Where were YOU when hundreds of thousands of people just got REDpilled about THE NAZBOL GANG?

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Is it Taiwan or Taipei?

Should we respect the clear superiority of Socialism with chinese Characteristics and call it Taipei or should we support the Taiwanese against Mainlander Imperialism and support an independent Taiwan?

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>China is not a naational socialist state

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What do you think about labor-vouchers? And how we can pay the fair amount of labor-vouchers according to each job?

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WAGE SLAVES

>2018

>still being a wage-slave

Why not deal the absolute fuck you to the capitalist class and become a NEET off the grid?

>b-b-b-but I have to sell muh labor-power to Porky or I die!!!

Not if you become self-sufficient off the land in the middle of the woods somewhere. Ted K. did it, why don't you? Have fun being the bitch to the capitalist class while I, a NEET parasite, shall free myself once and for all from the bourgeoisie and the cancer that is their world.

>B-B-B-B-B-BUT IT'S REACTIONARY TO SHUN MODERN LIFE AND SOCIETY

Have fun selling yourself out until you're sixty…

I'LL BE LIVING FOR REAL!!!

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What's up with the insane fetishization of military in the USA? Is it similar in other countries? Where I'm from nobody cares about them and if you asked a random person what do they think about soldiers they would just that they are the only group that is dumber than policemen, which is considered to be a great achievement. Of course we have not been in constant war since the second our country was founded.

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Fav rightists

ITT: Post your favorite liberals, rightists and reactionaries. What writers, historical figures etc. do you find interesting despite them being rightist scum?

Pic related.

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So what is there left for us to do to fight zionism?

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Why is it that none of the revolutions were in the most highly develped capitalist nations, as Marx predicted, but rather in very backwards, not-even-properly-capitalist-yet nations?

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Besides an opposition to capitalism, the left seems to agree on very few things. Even very large things, like whether the state should be abolished or taken over in order to move beyond capitalism, are not agreed on. What should we do in light of this?

Do we need to debate these issues amongst ourselves until we gain more unity? Should we have humility regarding our ability to know these things and support different experiments to see what works? Should we simply spread our criticisms of capitalism in order for more schools of thought to develop?

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Daily News Thread 6/7

US embassy pulls more China staff over mystery illness

The US has removed several more officials from China over fears they have contracted the same mysterious illness that affected staff in Cuba.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-44393297

France Warns Trump It Won’t Sign a G-7 Statement

France has joined Germany in warning President Donald Trump that it won’t sign a joint statement of the Group of 7 at the summit in Quebec this week without major concessions from the U.S., a French official in the president’s office said.

https://outline.com/WsaCJc

Jordan unions launch nationwide strike over income tax plan

King Abdullah II has ordered a review and has even replaced his prime minister to try to defuse country's largest protests in years.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/06/jordan-unions-launch-nationwide-strike-income-tax-plan-180606174235890.html

France, Germany, UK Request Exemption From US-Iran Sanctions

France, Britain, Germany and the EU on Wednesday issued a join official request for their companies to be exempt from punitive measures stemming from fresh US sanctions on Iran.

https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/France-Germany-UK-Request-Exemption-From-US-Iran-Sanctions-20180606-0023.html

Israeli Forces Kill Yet Another Tamimi Family Member

Israeli occupation forces killed another member of the Tamimi family in the occupied West Bank town of Nabi Saleh. The 21-year-old Ezz al-Din Tamimi was shot at close range Wednesday during an early morning raid.

https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Israeli-Forces-Kill-Yet-Another-Tamimi-Family-Member-20180606-0017.html

Man Detained By ICE After Delivering Pizza to Military Base in Brooklyn

He went from delivering pizza to being detained by immigration officers.

https://outline.com/NmZE7c

Trump-appointed consumer watchdog director just fired the agency's entire advisory board after criticism of his leadership

Mick Mulvaney, the interim head of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, has disbanded three boards whose members include consumer advocacy groups and which advise on policy at the financial watchdog, board members said on Wednesday.

http://www.businessinsider.com/mick-mulvaney-cfpb-director-fires-agencys-advisory-board-after-criticism-2018-6

Trump asks if Canada burnt down White House in call with PM

Canadians have reacted with dismay to reports US President Donald Trump questioned whether Canada burned down the White House during a call with the country's leader, Justin Trudeau.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44394156

Two of Scott Pruitt’s aides resign as the EPA’s ethics questions continue

Two top aides resigned Wednesday from the Environmental Protection Agency as its administrator, Scott Pruitt, faced mounting allegations of misusing his authority, including by seeking a Chick-fil-A fast-food franchise for his wife.

http://www.post-gazette.com/news/politics-nation/2018/06/06/Two-of-Scott-Pruitt-s-aides-resign-as-the-EPA-s-ethics-questions-continue/stories/201806060245

Minnesota Amazon workers seek better workplace conditions

A group of East African employees is asking retail giant Amazon to improve working conditions at an eastern Minnesota warehouse.

https://apnews.com/1d62290004b340feac5c359d59b86823

South Carolina restaurant 'forced man to cook without pay'

A restaurant manager in South Carolina has pleaded guilty to abusing and forcing an intellectually challenged employee to work without pay for years.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44402742

ISS might be 'split' into segments in just a few years as part of private business takeover

The head of NASA says the International Space Station (ISS) might not exist in its current form in 2025 and instead be divided into components, some of which could be dumped completely. The plan is a part of a privatization bid.

https://www.rt.com/news/428974-nasa-privatization-split-components/

Analysis: HUD plan would raise rents for poor by 20 percent

Housing Secretary Ben Carson says his latest proposal to raise rents would mean a path toward self-sufficiency for millions of low-income households across the United States by pushing more people to find work.

https://apnews.com/d084d718ddda4fe087219825bad0fcbd/

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Heated arguments

How do you guys avoid getting heated in arguments? I tend to get to personal way to quickly and attack the one I argue with for his beliefs. Maybe because the values of socialisme is dear to my heart. What's your way out of this? What's the good way to win an argument for the cause of socialism?

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(((Karl Marx)))

How does anyone believe this shit. Wew lad

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Economists are fucking sociopaths

Just read a newspaper column by a neoliberal economist who compared Italy to a spoiled child asking for candy, because they wanted good social services and early retirement. I know that M5S isn't exactly the most "radical" leftist cred party, but they are much more committed to actually improving living conditions than the spineless socdems who have been in charge for the last few years.

Why does the economist consider M5S so radical? Because these new plans might scare off investors, who would then be unwilling to buy up Italy's national debt. What the absolute fuck? Why should a sovereign country even be dependent on outside investors at all?

If unelected investors can decide what governments are and aren't acceptable for democratic countries, why even have a democracy at all? Why not just do it like Saudi Arabia's new city NEOM, where the financiers have complete control over every aspect of the city's government? Why do the nations of the world constantly need to whore themselves out to international capital?

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We need an umbrella term for De Leonists, Communalists, Council Communists and other non ML or Anarchist forms of Socialism. I'm tired of Tankies and Anarchists running the dialogue in the radical Left

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/brainlet/

Any other brainlets here? I've read the Communist Manifesto, understood it pretty well, even more the second read-through, moving onto Socialism: Utopian and Scientific. After reading 75% through I couldn't keep my attention on it, so I decided it was above my level and dropped it, moving on to two more basic works "Wage-Labour and Capital" and "Value, Price and Profit". Does reading theory get easier as one goes on? I read a lot but the antiquated language and wordiness makes it a slog at times. Anyone else have similar experiences?

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https://sofrep.com/104349/update-communist-ranger-and-west-pointer-receives-an-other-than-honorable-discharge/

Press S to spit commie scum that got BTFO

How are you retards going to infiltrate our military and start a revolution when you can't stop feeding your egos on twitter?

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Ancient Greece

‘Start with the Greeks’ memes aside, I’m studying the history of the Greek city-states for an exam and my course claims that even large landowners tended to donate their profits to communal goods because this was widely seen as the ethical thing to do and there obviously didn’t exist a capitalist profit motive yet. This could be a strong argument against anti-communists who are skeptical about people ever acting against their personal profit even outside a capitalist context. Does anyone have more information or resources related to this?

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Evo Morale's Bolivia

What does /leftpol/ think about /ourSucDem/ and Bolivia / the MAS Etc in General?

Despite its SucDem economic Nature and the fact it could eventually run into the same issues "Socialism of the 21st century" (Chavism) Evo is Probably one of the best /ourguy/s around in terms of his foreign policy and Opposition to capitalist Institutions (IMF comes to mind)

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Russia

Russia is an anti-imperialist nation. How so? It effectively serves as a bulwark against U.S. imperial interests. As long as U.S. imperialism is the dominant force throughout the world, opposition to Russia and Putin is fundamentally reactionary.

Who does opposition to Putin ultimately benefit? The imperialists and their lackeys.

Remember to analyze the world through dialectical means, not through emotional knee jerk liberalism. Did Mao oppose the Kuomintang since the very beginning like a red liberal idealist would? No! He supported the reactionary KMT against the greater evil of Japanese imperialism right until the moment Japanese imperialism was crushed.

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The Fourth Political Theory

All the political systems of the modern age have been the products of three distinct ideologies: the first, and oldest, is liberal democracy; the second is Marxism; and the third is fascism. The latter two have long since failed and passed out of the pages of history, and the first no longer operates as an ideology, but rather as something taken for granted. The world today finds itself on the brink of a post-political reality — one in which the values of liberalism are so deeply embedded that the average person is not aware that there is an ideology at work around him. As a result, liberalism is threatening to monopolise political discourse and drown the world in a universal sameness, destroying everything that makes the various cultures and peoples unique.

According to Alexander Dugin, what is needed to break through this morass is a fourth ideology — one that will sift through the debris of the first three to look for elements that might be useful, but that remains innovative and unique in itself. Dugin does not offer a point-by-point program for this new theory, but rather outlines the parameters within which it might develop and the issues which it must address. Dugin foresees that the Fourth Political Theory will use the tools and concepts of modernity against itself, to bring about a return of cultural diversity against commercialisation, as well as the traditional worldview of all the peoples of the world — albeit within an entirely new context. Written by a scholar who is actively influencing the direction of Russian geopolitical strategy today, The Fourth Political Theory is an introduction to an idea that may well shape the course of the world’s political future.

Fellow nationalists and populists, “left” and “right”, come together to discuss the fourth political theory at >>>/4pt/!

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Economy of East Germany

Greetings comrades. I'm asking a question on how well the East German (or other bloc countries)

economy performed. Currently, I have not found anything not pro-capitalist out there that doesn't talk about either how people wanted to leave east Germany or how it somehow was "backwards" and less "prosperous" than west Germany.

Any help is appreciated.

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Daily News Thread 6/6

UPS Teamsters ready to stage America's biggest strike since 1997, with solidarity as the main sticking point

Unionized UPS Teamsters – 260,000 of them – are set to strike in the biggest American strike since UPS's unionized drivers walked out in 1997.

https://boingboing.net/2018/06/06/divide-and-rule-2.html

https://outline.com/fRr9dr

GOP, Democrats dodge disaster in California primaries

Republicans and Democrats alike appear to have escaped calamity in a crucial day of coast-to-coast primary battles as they fight to shape the political battlefield for the fall.

https://apnews.com/dfa9d361e24a4cb0a593ebfceb08cde2

Giuliani says Kim Jong Un got 'on his hands and knees and begged for' the summit with Trump

Rudy Giuliani, the former New York mayor who's now a lawyer for President Donald Trump, said North Korean leader Kim Jong Un begged the president to move forward with a planned summit after Trump abruptly canceled it in late May.

http://www.businessinsider.com/giuliani-kim-jong-un-begged-for-trump-summit-on-his-hands-and-knees-2018-6

Argentina cancels Israel World Cup friendly after Gaza violence

Argentina has cancelled a football World Cup warm-up match with Israel, apparently under pressure over Israel's treatment of Palestinians in Gaza.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-44378669

Obama-era license aimed to let Iran convert money in dollars

The Obama administration secretly sought to give Iran access — albeit briefly — to the U.S. financial system by sidestepping sanctions kept in place after the 2015 nuclear deal, despite repeatedly telling Congress and the public it had no plans to do so.

https://apnews.com/27e8179cf10140dca7eb86b3488f01e2

UK Border police power to hold suspected foreign agents

Border police would be given the powers to stop and detain suspected foreign intelligence agents if a new bill passes through parliament.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-44384600

Sudan Says U.S. Hasn't Lifted Technology Sanctions

The U.S. hasn’t lifted economic sanctions against Sudan on telecommunications and other technology sectors since the Trump administration announced last October that it would partially lift sanctions against Sudan, the country’s telecommunications minister Ibrahim El-Mirghani told reporters in the capital Khartoum.

https://outline.com/bmVshb

US police arrest soldier after stolen armoured vehicle chase

A soldier in the US has been arrested after stealing an armoured military vehicle and leading police on a two-hour chase through a busy city.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44380794

US child migrants: Sessions defends border separations

US Attorney General Jeff Sessions has defended separating migrant children from their parents at the US border.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44385013

Migrant kids could be held in US military bases at Mexico border

US military bases could soon be used as holding facilities for migrant children that have been separated from their parents at the southern border under the Trump administration’s “zero tolerance” immigration policies.

https://www.rt.com/usa/428927-migrant-children-military-bases/

'This is no swimming place for Nazis': German far-right leader has clothes stolen while swimming in a lake

The co-leader of a German anti-immigrant party had to walk to a police station from the shores of a lake outside Berlin wearing only his underwear after his clothes were stolen while he was swimming, the Maerkische Allgemeine newspaper reported on Tuesday.

http://www.businessinsider.com/r-german-rightist-leader-walks-to-police-station-after-clothes-stolen-2018-6

A class of 8th graders were given bulletproof shields before starting high school to protect them from shootings

A class of eighth-graders graduating middle school have been given bulletproof shields as gifts to prepare them for potential mass shootings when they get to high school.

http://www.businessinsider.com/8th-graders-get-bulletproof-to-prepare-for-high-school-shootings-2018-6

Stanford rape case judge Aaron Persky removed from office

A US judge who was widely criticised for his leniency towards a campus rapist has been removed from office by voters.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44383329

Arizona cops on leave after harrowing CCTV footage shows beating of unarmed man

Three Arizona police officers and one sergent are on administrative leave after CCTV footage emerged allegedly showing them punching and kneeing an unarmed man.

https://www.rt.com/usa/428918-mesa-police-department-beating

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All billionaires and climate change deniers should be rounded up and promptly executed. They are complicit in the ongoing omnicide, and as such, are worse than the Nazis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A24RpuRZ3I

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I made pol a better place

The who's white and who isnt debate is over.

/pol/ can now stop all these "Am i wyte" threads.

I just gave them the ultimate answer.

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Daily News Thread 6/5

Iran to boost uranium enrichment if nuclear deal fails

Iran says it has begun work on increasing its uranium enrichment capacity, in case its 2015 nuclear agreement with world powers collapses.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-44365078

Kurdish YP*G to pull out from Manbij after US, t*rkey reach deal on northern Syria

Kurdish YP*G will leave Manbij, the militia confirmed a day after t*rkey and the US agreed to a “roadmap” for northern Syria. Experts say the move wasn’t a free choice, and it is not known who will now take control of the city.

https://www.rt.com/news/428798-turkey-roadmap-manbij-kurds-disarmed/

Ethiopia 'accepts peace deal' to end Eritrea border war

Ethiopia says it will fully accept the outcome of a border commission, ending a dispute with Eritrea that sparked Africa's deadliest border war in 1998.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-44376298

Mexico Strikes Back, Levying Tariffs on U.S. Pork, Steel, Whiskey

Mexico will begin to tax a range of U.S. products in retaliation for tariffs on Mexican steel and aluminum that President Donald Trump announced last week.

https://outline.com/NHRTWL

'I've Never Been in Favor of the Embargo': US Senator Says in Visit With Cuban President

Senator Jeff Flake and Google's Eric Schmidt visited Cuba aiming to improve cooperation between the island and the U.S.

https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/US-Senator-and-Google-ex-CEO-Visit-Cuban-President-20180605-0010.html

The UN is calling on the US to halt separations of migrant families

The U.N. human rights office is calling on the Trump administration to "immediately halt" its policy of separating children from their parents after crossing U.S. border with Mexico.

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-must-stop-separations-of-migrant-families-2018-6

Ron Rockwell Hansen: US arrests man for trying to spy for China

A former US intelligence officer has appeared in court in Seattle charged with attempting to spy for China.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44364437/

Evidence withheld in 47 rape and sexual assault cases, says CPS

Vital evidence was withheld from defence lawyers in 47 cases of rape and sexual assault, the Crown Prosecution Service has revealed.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-44366997

Immigration agents arrest 114 in sting at Ohio landscaper

U.S. immigration agents made more than 100 arrests Tuesday at a gardening and landscaping company, aided by about 200 law enforcement workers in one of the largest employer stings in recent years.

https://apnews.com/07256633165d48c2aa28af3366008ae3/Immigration-agents-arrest-114-in-sting-at-Ohio-landscaper

Portland Riots: Antifa, Patriot Prayer Protesters Clash Violently, 4 Arrested

Opposing protest rallies in Portland, Oregon, turned violent Sunday, leading to multiple arrests after an anti-fascist group, more commonly known as Antifa, clashed with the far right-wing group Patriot Prayer — which was reminiscent of a similar situation last year which had led to 14 people getting arrested.

http://www.ibtimes.com/portland-riots-antifa-patriot-prayer-protesters-clash-violently-4-arrested-photos-2686963

Scientists want ‘robust research’ into sex with robots, as they find ‘no evidence’ it’s healthy

UK scientists want “robust research” into sexual intercourse with robots to be carried out before the machines penetrate the health industry. They’re worried that sex robots may not yield all the benefits claimed by manufacturer.

https://www.rt.com/news/428804-sex-robots-robust-research/

More Americans view long-term decline in union membership negatively than positively

The number of Americans represented by labor unions has decreased substantially since the 1950s, and a new Pew Research Center survey finds that the decline is seen more negatively than positively by U.S. adults.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/06/05/more-americans-view-long-term-decline-in-union-membership-negatively-than-positively/

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Rius. Marx for beginners

hello leftypol

I am new here although for many months I had entered and read some threads.

What is your opinion about the book Marx for beginners and its author eduardo del rio (rius) ??

Have you read that book?

What other books by that author do you know?

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Red and Blue (vidya)

Afternoon leftypol, ever wanted to turn your fantasies of recreating the Spanish Civil War ? Want to have fun while fighting for the CNT ?

https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?topic=279196.0

Look no further, it is a preety good mod and I bet you are all going to have fun on the mods, we have everything from uniforms to guns, tanks and much more, do try it you will enjoy it.

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Syndicalism in the age of automation

Now that automation is killing more and more jobs every year Unions are becoming less and less important and along with them Syndicalism. How do Syndicalists respond to this? Are there different methods or alternatives to traditional Syndicalism. I've heard the argument that we should stop automation for this reason but I don't really like this method.

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Hey /leftpol/ I have a problem that I feel like some of you have been through, and that is that I hold radical leftist beliefs(Anarcho-Syndicalism/Anarcho-Communism in my case.) I live in a household with my parents, siblings, and grandparents who are your textbook Conservatives/Neoliberals. As of now I'm 17, but "not talking about it" isn't an option because they know what I believe and attack me for my beliefs every time someone(doesn't matter who) brings up anything remotely political, what can I do?

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The LARP question

When participating in IRL politics and events, where do we draw the line between actual participation and what is called LARPing on imageboards? Is LARPing just a synonym for pretending to be something you're not or is it more than that? For example, is having a party flag like

>>>/leftpol/62056

considered LARPing (regardless of its perception to normalfags) if the person is engaged in real political work? (no offense to that anon's flag edit). This is just something that has been on my mind for a while and I was wondering other anons' thoughts on this matter

Pic unrelated

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Fuck the cop tread.

Post your anti-cop memes or vids of cops being dicks to people.

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RIP Rojava 2014-2018

http://theregion.org/m/news/13582-turkey-u-s-agreed-on-method-timetable-for-removal-of-kurdish-forces-from-manbij-spokesman

What now? Is Rojava and Syria gonna turn into pic related?

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Jason Unruhe

Need more pictures for my folder

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Markets vs Planning

What actually is the solution to the calculation problem? Why exactly would a socialist market be worse than unproven planing, either centralized or decentralized? Market socialism doesn't preclude the intervention of the state to varying extents for various reasons, or even state control of certain services.

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/namibia/

is the /pol/ board about colonizing namibia just a meme or are they actually serious about it?

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Leftist Art

Leftist Art thread

Unions, Socialists, Soviet Marxists, dump em all. If you know where one can buy any of the posters in this thread, please share cause I want to be an edgy communist shitlord with Che on his wall.

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Cockshott's allocative efficiency algorithm

Can someone please explain how it works?

I don't get it

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Automation Will Crash (Liberal/Bourgeoisie) Democracy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7Tzbu2xJnc

>Around the world, technology is disrupting the workforce, with automation poised to displace humans in the fields of medicine, agriculture, and beyond. Will the rise of robots fuel a new wave of “us versus them” populism capable of undermining democracy? For the Motion: Ian Bremmer, Founder and President, Eurasia Group Yascha Mounk, Lecturer, Harvard University & Senior Fellow, New America Against the Motion: Andrew Keen, Internet Entrepreneur & Author, How To Fix The Future Alina Polyakova, David M. Rubenstein Fellow, The Brookings Institution

>Either the rich with the robot army will kill the obsolete proletariat or China will become a new superpower with their robot army with guarantee fake jobs for everyone with no Freedom.

>Liberal smug thinks Full Automation under Capitalism will be fine and not to worry about it.

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razorfist goes full mccarthy

how is this guy a libertarian ?

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=ZOtinTlx7yo

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Millennials are having less sex than any generation in 60 years. Here’s why it matters.

Did the sexual revolution fail? Marx envisioned a post-christian society would be one of free love, were men and women or whatever you like would interact with each other as humans rather than as sacraments or a transaction.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-millennials-less-sex-20160802-snap-story.html

The more I read about the so called leftist movements of the 1960s the more I realize what a god damn farce the entire thing was.

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anyone else seen the meltdown /k/ is having after they realized Ian from Forgotten Weapoms is a communist?

>>>/k/581310

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Good US Parties

Are all of the parties in the US as shit as the CPUSA? Are there any good ones that are just more obscure? If I have to I might have to try to set something up in my local area that isn't either pure LARPing or blatant revisionism

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Daily News Thread 6/3

Bashar al-Assad to Visit North Korea: Korean State Media

Korean media says al-Assad will make a visit to Pyongyang. The Syrian leader would be the first head of state to visit Kim in North Korea since he took office in 2011.

https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Bashar-al-Assad-to-Visit-North-Korea-Korean-State-Media-20180603-0021.html

Guatemala volcano: Dozens die as Fuego volcano erupts

Guatemala's most violent volcano eruption in more than a century has killed at least 25 people.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44350974

Trade Tensions Intensify With Trump and Allies Set For Showdown

President Donald Trump is headed for a showdown with America’s allies at a Group of Seven summit this week in Quebec, with the European Union and Canada threatening retaliatory measures unless he reverses course on new steel and aluminum levies.

https://outline.com/8VT6EZ

Jordan PM Hani Mulki quits after austerity protests

Jordan's Prime Minister Hani Mulki has resigned after days of protests against tax rises and austerity measures.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-44358039/

Italy's new government: 'Party is over' for migrants, Italy will no longer be 'Europe's refugee camp'

Italy will no longer be "Europe's refugee camp", newly installed interior minister Matteo Salvini said on Monday as he promised tough action to reduce migrant arrivals and send back those who have already come.

http://www.businessinsider.com/italys-new-leader-says-will-no-longer-be-europes-refugee-camp-2018-6

Top Macron aide Alexis Kohler faces French corruption inquiry

French President Emmanuel Macron's chief of staff, Alexis Kohler, is under investigation for alleged influence-peddling and conflict of interest.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44354567

Four Social Leaders, Activists Killed in Colombia in 24 Hours

Yet four more social leaders were murdered in Colombia in just 24 hours, amid a security crisis for activists and community leaders that risk their lives for a better future for their country and the region.

https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/4-Social-Leaders-and-Activists-Killed-in-24-Hours-in-Colombia-20180603-0013.html

Trump: I have 'absolute right' to pardon myself

US President Donald Trump has said he has the "absolute right" to pardon himself in the Russia inquiry, while insisting he has done nothing wrong.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44359434

US Seizes Albanian Retiree's Life Savings Without Explanation

A 64-year-old Albanian immigrant to the United States has filed a federal lawsuit alleging that U.S. Customs and Border Patrol (CPB) seized his life savings at an airport but never charged him with a crime, according to the Washington Post.

https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/US-Seizes-Albanian-Retirees-Life-Savings-Without-Explanation-20180602-0017.html

French rail travel disrupted as rolling strikes continue

France’s SNCF national rail service relaunched rolling strikes for Sunday and Monday, two days after the government offered to forgive most of the company’s debt if it accepts reforms to make it more competitive.

http://www.france24.com/en/20180603-france-rail-travel-disrupted-sncf-workers-strike-again

Rent strike: LA tenants resort to practice from the 1900s as city’s housing crisis worsens

Led by the fledgling LA Tenants Union, inhabitants of multiunit buildings are joining forces and refusing to pay rent until a suitable rent increase agreement with the landlords is reached

http://www.scmp.com/property/international/article/2149161/rent-strike-la-tenants-resort-practice-1900s-citys-housing

Dancing FBI agent drops gun during backflip and shoots man in leg

An off-duty FBI agent accidentally shot a bystander in the leg when his gun fell from its holster as he cavorted on the dance-floor of a bar in Denver, Colorado, police said.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44349521

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What is the best left-wing fiction? As in short stories, novels, novellas, etc…

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Socialist Parties by Country

ITT : TLDR the left/socialist political scene within your country

>AUSTRALIA

>TANKS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Australia_(current)

Not the OG Communist party of Aus

Basically when the OG Communist party dissolved itself in the 90s the remaining tanks made this one

Got less then a thousand members nations wide (We know this because they could not prove they had over a thousand members which is required to participate in elections)

>TROTS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Alternative_(Australia)

Basically the same as American SALT

>DEMSOC / LEFT-SOCDEMS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Alliance_(Australia)

Basically just DemSoc's / SocDem crew

>AGRARIAN NAZBOL SOCDEM GANG

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katter%27s_Australian_Party

Basically this guy called Bob katter and his son Robbie began this party as an alternative to our Agrarian party (The Nationals)

He mixes Right-Populist Drivel with Agrarianism and calls for farmer relief

He also likes to rant about Muh chinks ruining our economy

Basically a 1950s SocDem

Funnily enough (And sadly) this is one of our LARGER third parties (At least in Queensland where its support base is)

This thread was Originally on /leftypol/ but i thought i would make this here because

A. It Had some decent Discussion in it

B. My Permanent Banning from /leftypol/

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Imagine it. The DOLPHIN BULL. His skin the exact smooth color of delicate, yet powerful authority. The color to swoon over every opposer and follower the DOLPHIN sets eyes on. A DOLPHIN'S presence is already known, as you can sense an aura of superiority and objective greatness just being within the vicinity of a DOLPHIN. From mental, to physical, to emotional attributions, the DOLPHIN is simply unparalleled despite the enemy's best efforts.

Imagine the day in the life of a DOLPHIN. You wake up, remembering the night before. Ah, a fruitful night. You impregnated every female within your general vicinity with strong, fertile DELPHINID seed. You get out of your estuary, looking around to find a similar sight; a low cliff shown to you by a quite affluent cow you dated years ago, but gone too soon after she had a run in with a bunch of lanky creatures. The h*Man barbarians scraping the beach and ruining the strong, powerful atmosphere any DOLPHIN possesses.

You get dressed, with only the best of giant kelp and seaweed, to compliment your excellent CETACEAN figure and posture. You do not work, as fishnets give any DOLPHINS unimaginable meals just for being DOLPHINS.

You go near shore to be greeted by another DOLPHIN, which takes you to a reef which is DOLPHIN exclusive. On the way, you pass along the docks. This is a part of the world where the underlings and scum of the planet reside, h*Mans of many kinds. The niggers, the poos, the gooks, the crackers and many more. They scream in joy and envy as an authentic DOLPHIN passes through their polluted district. Some of them try throwing rocks at you, only to be knocked into the water themselves by the DELPHINID police, many being your friend.

Life is good as a DOLPHIN, don't you ever wince in envy being scum?

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What do we do about the eternal goon?

http://archive.is/WYTSS

http://archive.li/P7tF0

http://archive.li/2V8SG

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Daily News Thread 6/1

Mariano Rajoy: Spanish PM forced out of office

Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy has been forced out of office by a no-confidence vote in parliament.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44327573

North Korea official meets Trump in rare White House visit, carries letter

A senior North Korean official met U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday at the White House to hand him a letter from North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, as the two countries try to put a derailed summit back on track.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-usa/north-korea-official-set-to-meet-trump-give-letter-in-rare-meeting-idUSKCN1IV2NS/

US tariffs a dangerous game, says EU

The US is playing a "dangerous game" by slapping tariffs on European steel and aluminium, the European Union's trade commissioner has said.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-44324565

A record number of white nationalists are running for national office in 2018

A record number of white nationalists are running for national office in 2018, the Southern Poverty Law Center told MSBNC, including people who deny the Holocaust occurred and advocate for segregation.

http://www.businessinsider.com/white-nationalists-running-for-office-in-2018-2018-5

Venezuela Sends Solidarity Aid Cuba After Tropical Storm Alberto

The Venezuelan government has sent 12 tons of humanitarian aid to Cuba after the passage of tropical storm Alberto, which killed at least four people on the island.

https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Venezuela-Sends-Solidarity-Aid-Cuba-After-Tropical-Storm-Alberto-20180601-0007.html

Trump Orders Action to Stem Coal, Nuclear Plant Shutdowns

President Donald Trump ordered his energy secretary to take immediate action to stem power plant closures, arguing that a decline in coal and nuclear electricity is putting the nation’s security at risk.

https://outline.com/UPpWMe

US jobless rate falls to 18-year low

The unemployment rate fell further to 3.8%, having fallen to 3.9% the previous month, bringing the rate to an 18-year low.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-44330250

Fake cops busted: Impersonators fooled real police & firefighters for years, even arrested citizens

At least three people in Michigan are facing felony charges for belonging to a group that successfully impersonated police officers for several years. Even real cops were fooled by their disguises.

https://www.rt.com/usa/428497-fake-cops-busted-michigan/

Boeing workers vote for 'micro-union' at South Carolina plant

A small group of workers at Boeing Co’s (BA.N) South Carolina jetliner factory voted Thursday to unionize but the planemaker announced it would challenge the legality of the bargaining unit.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-boeing-union/boeing-workers-vote-for-micro-union-at-south-carolina-plant-idUSKCN1IW1DH

Cosmetic firm’s 'Spy Cops' campaign doesn’t wash on social media

A social media furor has descended on ethical cosmetics company Lush, after it launched a campaign linked to an official inquiry into the conduct of undercover police officers, some of whom had sexual relationships with activists.

https://www.rt.com/uk/428489-undercover-policing-protest-relationships/

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Is it reactionary?

If we achieve full communism, but then a meteor destroys civilization, is it reactionary to want to rebuild society to have full communism again?

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Dear anarchists I believe it is time that we unite our forces to create the most wonderfull republic ever, if they were able to do it in the past THEN WE WILL DO IT TODAY

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does the "socialists want to steal our toothbrushes" meme have some truth to it?

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Why is this idea so prevalent that some jobs are worth less than a decent wage? Especially when those jobs are the backbone of multi-billion dollar companies. Even in a capitalist system, it seems to me that there are more positives than negatives for paying your employees more.

+healthier local economy

+less turnover, which means less time/money spent training/hiring

+happier, healthier employees

+higher employee loyalty

+more prospective employees

-short-term dent in already huge profits

Do classcucks and big smarty-pants CEOs not understand something as simple as cause-and-effect?

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Trostskyism or Anarchism

People probably aren't going to care but here goes:

So I've been reading Trotsky's analysis of the degeneration of the USSR and I'm at a weird point with it.

While I agree that conditions for socialism were as low as they could get I find it hard to grasp that this was the only reason for the USSR degenerating. I get that conditions were hard and that what the Bolsheviks did was seen as necessary but then when I consider shit like Kronstadt, with Trotsky leading the bloody charge, it's pretty obvious that the state was doing whatever it could to gain and keep control over the citizens.

Problem is though is that the Kronstadt rebellion happened in 1921, which is the point Trotskyists say the state degenerated so much that the workers were no longer in control and so something like Kronstadt was able to happen. I'm aware of other shady shit like suppressing of unions but nothing specific.

I guess what I'm looking for is some book that either debunks the Trotskyist narrative that there was simply no other way, or debunks the anarchist/left-communist position that the Bolsheviks fucked things up on top of the material conditions being shit.

TLDR: what is a book that describes how Lenin and Trostsky would fix everything after the civil war or that provides a possible alternative for 1917 Russia.

Would Luxembourg, Bordiga or Goldman be good options? I've also seen a book called 'Before Stalinism: The Rise and Fall of Soviet Democracy' but I'm not sure if that is worth picking up.

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Going to join the YPG in Rojava late August. If you've ever been give me some advice or if you have questions about the joining process ask me.

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Wikipedia

What do you think about it?

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Two Agendas

There are two parallel agendas being made: Collectivism/Communitarian for the youth populace, and Individualism/Independence for the elder populace.

Collectivism:1) "No man is an island."

2) "There is no 'I' in 'team' ".

3) "It takes a village to raise a child."

4) "We're all the same"

5) "It takes two to tango."

6) "A bundle of sticks is harder to break than a single stick."

7) "Blood is thicker than water."

Collectivism says that yearning for adventure, desire to be alone, wanting to be different, sexual awakening, having personal toys is "wrong" and "narcissistic" since it makes it "encourages breaking away from the group" therefore making it harder to "herd the buffalo". Collectivism stagnates the personal maturity of young people, hence "teen angst", "quarter-life crisis", and "arrested development." Anytime a youngster wants to be looked at as human being, not a flesh-and-blood cartoon character, he's labelled a "rebellious" or "anti-social" because adults are control freaks and neurotic overgrown kids who are butthurt about growing up.

Individualism: 1) "Look after number one (yourself)."

2) "Life is what you make it."

3) "Pull yourself up by the bootstraps."

4) "God helps those who help themselves."

5) "In order to love others, you must first love yourself."

6) "Do what thou wilt."

7) "If you want something done right, do it yourself."

Individualism teaches adults that being an adult equates to godhood. Morals are optional, survival is supreme. Anyone who yearns for love and affection is a dreamer, a wimp. That's why when adults go drink and drive, lie, or cheat, we shrug it off and say "life is unfair, deal with it". The older you get, the more "right" you have to fuck shit up, because "life is short."