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Hello guy's the moderator of /leftpol/ has decided he wants a break. So I'm gunna be moderating the this board for awhile.


>Rules are going to be the same as before.

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Think the mods should read the OP

especially the green text also thank you for having faith in me Yugo poster :3

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-Why are there two leftypols now?

"Lmao WIP"

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I thought they were compromised

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I started reading Thomas More's Utopia recently and was wondering if we could get a thread going about left wing literature. Anyone else read this and have thoughts on the book? Can it be considered proto-socialist?

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I'd still recommend John Scott's Behind The Urals. It's not "objective" but it's an up-close look at Soviet industrialization in the 1930s.

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New Years resolutions are a marketing scheme to sell fad diets, but I see no reason why leftists shouldn't pursue self-improvement. Let's have a thread to talking about getting fit, getting read, and developing skills.

I've got my current routine down, but I'm looking for books on syndicalism and communization. Can some anons help me out?

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Bump it's time for reports!


Back into my cutting routine, no cheat meals and making some tastier food, script is finished and now scrambling to get shit together and shoot it sometime next year. Everything's going good except wish more people here were lifting or reading or whatever and posting about it itt.



Find something what distracts you. Distraction is the best way to get rid of negative thoughts.



I have read two essays on egocom today :



I want to read stuff about the history of the left, and especially the history of the USSR. Any recommendations?


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learning the way of bread. These are honeyed spelt and oat loaves. toasted and with a bit of spread, this bread is hearty and has enough flavors and texture to be satisfying as a meal by itself.

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Let's talk about the current futility of Burger electoral politics and abroad

What are some digestible ways of explaining that voting is antithetical to enacting meaningful social change? What are some historical examples of decisions made via voting that weren't immediately undone by reactionaries? How can the voting system be changed to make it's eventual removal more palatable to the average person?

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Solution to the trolley problem you posited:

Jump in front of it, everything is already lost. the game



>champions of the underclass

The revolutionary subject of the 21st century is the precariat not proles u derp


As I posted over in >>99214:

My choices for Senate:

>D: Openly corrupt Gusano who’s in big pharma’s pocket

>R: big pharma executive

And for Congress:

>D: “National security” nerd and ex-Navy officer who unironically goes muh 9/11 muh taxpayers, doesn’t support single-payer, anti-union.

>R: Mike Pence-tier Catholic nut who’s held the seat since 1981.

Why should I even bother?



You can't kill yourself.


Vote for None of the Above.



>badge #1466

So close. This is seriously what to expect from the SPD.

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I'm probably going to post this in /pol/ as well, but I can't help but notice this strange phenomenon with regards to the NPC meme

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must've hit too close



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>not going for 'welcome to Dubai'-ending


Both sides have NPCs.

The left uses them as footsoldiers, useful idiots.

The right is ashamed of them and attempts to hide or ignore them.

This is why the left always wins in the long run. They have greater numbers, and are willing to do anything to win.


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>The right is ashamed of them and attempts to hide or ignore them.

Top kek! Extra-chromosome Republicans have been the face of the right since 1980.

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Hey come dick around on my server, no rules whatsoever. This is for a project about digital spaces. I want you to shit it up, no rules.


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What if they taught determinism in school directly instead of going through its applied ways (sciences of nature such as physics, mathematics etc), would it create excess rebellious positions among the population? Without the spook of free-will, you can't justify to the working-class they have no hope of salvation as a class as long as they keep recognizing the bourgeoisie. You can't praise the "merits" of people who integrate themselves within the economical/political structure, nor can you blame others for not succeeding in school or refusing to take part in the competition.

Determinism, that is asserting our desires such as opinions etc. are structurally determined, is in fact a very liberating ideology. You finally have some kind of framework to apply to sciences, natural or social, that works. Because philosophers of all times were very spooked about free-will themselves, except for a handful of them, such as Spinoza, Marx, Hegel, Democrites, Bourdieu, Durkheim, etc. this mentality which used to be very prevalent in ancient greece ended up erased from most of the history of thought due to copying monks who systemically purged mention of predestination, because it disagreed with the catholic concept of original sin and couldn't therefore be used to instill fear and obedience into the hell-fearing, deeply religious masses of the middle-ages, modern and contemporary periods.

Anyway, understanding of our determination is how the only genuine human freedom can be achieved. This reflexion should be the base for a political force of an entirely different design than anything that's been done before.

Also be careful with who you use this truth with, it can literally drive people insane trying to cling to their own cognitive dissonance.

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Honestly I'd rather not talk about quantum mechanics that much, given it lies outside of my relatively restricted domain of competence, as long as we admit you can't just say determinism is "disproven" by quantum physics like a lot of liberals do as a knee-jerk reaction. The whole point of the inb4 was to basically not waste too much time on this, given there is plenty of specialized literature online for those who care.


If anything, chaos theory shows extremely complex situations can arise from purely deterministic system. In my opinion, the very reason we have different sciences with no apparent theoretical unification is simply due to predictibility concerns, which are entirely different actual difference of substance of the object observed. Even extensive knowledge is physics is insufficient to analyze zoological phenomenons, in spite of the fact animals are indeed made of the same physical stuff our equations describe. This is also why thermodynamics choose to use statistical models, assuming that on a large enough scale, approximations compensate each other, which is true in the case of gas particle cinetics and allows thermodynamics to infer useful prediction and perform engineering tasks.

I claim man does not escape causality and should be treated as such. Our desires, beliefs and opinions are induced by a large variety of factors and looking at causes that determined our desires is the first step to genuine human freedom, that is actions that I am actually causing instead of being passive like a dead leaf flying on random winds.


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Bump for thread about Materialism


Free will exists for the ☘️subject☘️ IE have fun in language-thought patterns that were shaped by Empire and self-shamed through the enlightenment

I only know how to address this through the 8 circuit model. All of politics is the control over 2d space and is in the thalamus and has been with us for 1000 million years. Anything below the 6th circuit, or throat chakra or left frontal neocortex appears as free will. At the 6th plane you become the metaprogrammer. Etc etc read RAW

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Mutualist gang when?

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>I thought the TP originated as laughably fake 100% astroturf?

A bunch of paultards got together after their hero met overwhelming electoral defeat yet again to form the first "Tea Party" around the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party. Like within a month the Koch brothers took over the name, created an organization headed by Republican wonks, and got Fox News to report on their every action.



Most of those faggots inmediately jumped ship onto the MAGA bandwagon. I'd like to know how many actual lolbertarians, of the Austin Petersen kind, actually remain on the tea party. My guess is zero.

This elections were a monumental circlejerk for the right.


Mutualist reforms could accelerate capitalist economic function until they reach their natural endpoint imo, at which point mutualism has completely changed the nature of that beast.



Yeah a lot of people don't know about its origins in the Ron Paul thing but yep. Then practically overnight it was co-opted.

One proto-fascist thing I remember some Paultards doing was this "veterans march" where these veterans and stolen valor cases marched in step shouting "PRESIDENT PAUL" over and over again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsSGTnYfsFM

I remember sharing it on a forum back then and some veteran types were like "yeah all these guys were POGs." That's army slang for troops who never saw combat while often – though not always – trying to play up their military cred to civilians.


C4ss and Kevin Carlson ftw, 3d print the means of production

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6 killed as US-led coalition F-15 jets bomb Kurdish forces fighting ISIS

Two US-led coalition aircraft have bombed Syrian Kurdish forces, disrupting their offensive on Islamic State terrorists, RIA news agency reports. https://www.rt.com/news/441559-us-bombs-kurds-fighting-isis/

Bay area hotel workers determined to fight as union, Democrats try to derail strike

Strikers on the picket lines at Marriott hotels in San Francisco, San Jose and Oakland have expressed their determination to fight poverty level wages and increased medical costs as they struggle to live in one of the most expensive metropolitan areas in America


Iranian security staff unconscious when kidnapped to Pakistan: Guards chief

A group of Iranian security personnel kidnapped on the border with Pakistan this week were unconscious at the time, the commander of Iran’s elite Revolutionary Guards said, following reports that they had eaten drugged food.


Australia Takes Trump’s Lead, Considers Moving Israeli Embassy To Jerusalem

Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison is facing international backlash over his decision to consider officially recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.


EU leaders prPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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It's almost like race is an amerifat colonial concept and not a real thing.



>A lot of tribes were like this and were literally colorblind.

Tribes would occasionally admit outsiders, but the Cherokee were quite prolific in that regard. They would take on all comers, whole families, and they kept doing that for centuries. Just how spectacularly lily white Cherokees are has been a joke about them amongst other Injuns for generations. The fact that they were quick to reject the concept of blood quantum back in the day fed into the stigma. Of course, with the effective disappearance of full-bloods between the Yucatan Peninsula and the Northwest Territories it's really only the older generations that still snicker at Cherokee Chief Olie and Princess Brunhilde.


No, it was a European construct that got exported to the New World aboard the slave ships.



Hey Based News Anon, the bombing near Hajin is fake. No SDF were killed in airstrikes. RT ran the story but soldiers on the ground say nothing happened since the counter attacks a few days back


If it's from Sputnik or RT, double check with the ones on the ground first.



>6 killed as US-led coalition F-15 jets bomb Kurdish forces fighting ISIS

Time for the YPG to create and air force and put the US jets in Syria under there control.


>Bay area hotel workers determined to fight as union, Democrats try to derail strike

Surprised Class Conscious people live in the Bay “Million dollar a month rent” Area I thought the whole area has been gentrified.


>The Kanye effect: Black Americans declaring allegiance to Trump may mean disaster for Democrats


this country is a joke


My fucking god, so if I’m 1/12342365th native this means that I’m allowed to just larp as a hunter gather?



>My fucking god, so if I’m 1/12342365th native this means that I’m allowed to just larp as a hunter gather?

Yep. You don't even need that if a certain tribe adopts you.

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"Right" wingers are funny. They make me laugh.

In this scenario, typical "right-winger" is presented as "Dexter" or D. "Dexter" is Latin for "right".

D: "Government shouldn't ban sugar just because some some hussies get fat from it. People just need to grow the fuck up and get their shit together."

But, they want to ban video games and social media "because teenagers."

D: "Government shouldn't try to impose their will on citizens' vote. That's tyranny."

But, they want to ban young people from voting "because muh liburulz."

D: "Life is unfair, deal with it. Nobody owes you anything."

But, they complains about young people adapting new technologies/hobbies/tastes, creating new industries, having "cooler toys" than their elders.

D: "Rap music is monkey music because they talk about shooting people,drugs, and bitches."

But they listen to hard rock, which sings about drugs, demons, and women.

D: "Leftists are anti-logical. They think the life is a magic fairytale book that can rewritten They want trannies to use girls' restrooms, they think that race does not exist, they want men to vastrate themselves just because some women don't like penises."

But, they believe on conspiracy theories about intergalactic lizards feasting on humans, and that the earth is a flat slab of rock floating in space. Thinks that NASA photos of the Earth are composite montages made by con artists. They also think single women over 30 are radical feminists and/or cursed by God.

Let's be honest. Theres a reason why there's much more satire of right wingers than of leftists. Right wingers are macho badasses with urban mythology as education. Theyre like the cool uncle/grandfather who talks about their tales of their odd jobs but are prone to fPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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I think your basis of "fouteen year olds" is the 1950s "innocent/simple" youth.

Kids nowadays are not the giggly happy-go-lucky idiots the media still paints them as. Theyre cynical, edgy, dull, still make fart jokes, but ambitious.


OP here. Enough arguing about hebephilia.

Summary: Legally, adolescent girls are "children." Socially and mentally, theyre closer to "adult."

Anymore talk about this without any relation to the absurdity of right-wing philosophy and I will delete this thread.



>Socially and mentally, theyre closer to "adult."

where are the proofs you pedo scum



Wasted breath. They know teens have the same mental capability as adults. They already gave a demonstration of why they want to keep the laws the same regardless - to give people grief because they think it's funny.


This is exactly the kind of discussion that should be happening in these threads though. Pointing out the stupidity of the right wing offers us nothing if similarly stupid behaviors are allowed on the left. None of these retards screeching about how it's going to be dangerous for a teenage girl to fuck an adult man have actually told us what they're supposedly protecting her from that wouldn't also be a potential problem regardless of her choice of sexual partner or what gives them the right to decide when somebody needs to be protected. When you make a thread talking about how the right wing is a bunch of no-fun-allowed types who prohibit people from doing things on the basis that "we know what's best for you" and then the left does the same damn thing, it comes off as hypocritical. Go ahead and delete the thread if you want, but it won't erase this problem or the legions of pissed off people who've been affected by it.


Intelligence testing.



>Legally, adolescent girls are "children." Socially and mentally, theyre closer to "adult."

Why shoulf we care about the law?

>Anymore talk about this without any relation to the absurdity of right-wing philosophy and I will delete this thread.

Scary threats bro, how will we recover

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I made #leftpol on Rizon because #bunkerchan is full of right-wing retards and the mods are lazy and don't care about us

Stop using Discord! It's CIA shit!

Come on IRC where your comrades are waiting for you!


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<how do they make money? omg it must be a conspiracy!

They have a subscription service and are opening a game store to go along with it you dumbass.

<but muh privacy!!!!111

>implying the discord team is capable of sorting through a million different dick pics and memes to catch you out with some compromising info




>implying the discord team is capable of sorting through a million different dick pics and memes to catch you out with some compromising info

>implying people go through collected data, and not algorithms

this isn't the 50s gramps


>t. CIA



Algorithms can't do jack shit look at all the allah akbars who the FBI/NSA had reams of data on and yet they still managed to successfully carry out terror ops anyways because the NSA simply have too much data to sort through and are overwhelmed even with the help of computers.

FFS some terrorists even used Apple iphones I mean that's as security unaware as you can possibly be and yet still they were successful. Face it no one gives a shit if you have to discuss serious stuff in discord.



>They have a subscription service

That didn't exist until 3 years after launch

>implying the discord team is capable of sorting

Their clients are more than happy to do so



Now look at all the allah akbars who the FBI/NSA had reams of data on and got shut down really fast, either by a drone strike with 50+ civilian casualties over in sandland or raided with their dog shot and shot without trial in "first world nations".

Also see all the dumbass skiddies getting their door busted in in the US, Germany, UK and Canada because they use dumbass services like you are advocating for.

We used to bomb targets on three separate occasions in America in the '20s and still not get caught, yet now dumbasses like atomwaffen does this kind of shit and they get owned before they were able to get any target bombed. We get it CIA, you want it easy so you pathetic asses just shill for it on a Mongolian thread weaving forum to fool suckers into your trap. How low can you go, this is laughtable, nobody is buying your shit. Besides isn't your buddy Jim giving you all these shitty shitposts already, can't you be satisfied with that? Huh? No, you can't because you all are blood sucking leeches who can't get off our dicks until its been bled dry. Just go fuck off back to your pathetic department chair already and tell your boss that you can't do this job anymore and that you quit , but you can't because you love sucking on his cock so much to bring yourself up to it. You are pathetic, you lost, there's no hope for you, commit seppuku.

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when do we start coopting /pol/‘s statue-memes?

>Spartacus is revealed as the most splendid fellow in the whole of ancient history. Great general (no Garibaldi), noble character, real representative of the ancient proletariat.


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>yellow turban revolution

I’ve never heard of this. I have a big book on Chinese history I’ve never really read past the Shang Dynasty. I’ll have to look it up



do you mean the taiping? I'm corious



Taiping was in the 1800s fam. Yellow Turban was the Han dynasty around the time of the Roman Empire



Sounds cool what's it called


No the yellow turban rebellion was much earlier than Taiping was

In China wealthy peasants would buy land from other peasants if they had a bad harvest therefore a portion of the crops on the landlords land became there's this want on until virtually all land was owned by landlord's. Eventully the landlords got so rich they started directly influencing the emporer. The YTR started around 200 ce it was caused by a famine in northern China that forced peasants to move southward. However the land lords refused to give up there land if the peasants didn't pay up. The government made it worse by 1) being bought by landlords and refusing to do anything for the peasant and 2) imposing heavy taxes on the peasants in order to fund protection across the silk road. This among natural disasters was seen as a sign the Han had lost there mandate of heaven (if someone doesn't know what that is I'll explain) and the revolt broke out. The main revolution lasted for about a year but lasted about 20 years and while it did fail the Han collapsed around 15 years later so it was a major factor to the Hans collapse.



I've probably seen a movie about this somewhere but forgot the name to it.

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Let's try to keep this one going, shall we?

>What is this thread meant to be?

<A general thread discussing both historical macroeconomic trends and finance from a leftist perspective

>Are you guys thinking you can predict the market crash lma0

<No. The point is to discuss how does that hypothesis fit in a leftist praxis.

>Is this about personal finance?

<Probably not but I guess you can ask anyway.

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>Today would be a damn good day to put my money in too

derp. we're at the crest of the latest bubble this is, by any definition, not a good time to put money in. and due to the nature of modern markets everything tends to go up and down together, although there are always outliers.

>This sounds kinda retarded now I typed it out but what I meant was that huge corporations basically never go out of business

it happens all the time.

The time to invest is going to be after the next recession starts. That's when everything will be low. Or, you could short-sell something right before the recession but I'm not sure what kind of timeline you have to deal with when short-selling.



People have been predicting a market crash for at least the last 5 years though.



It might happen next year or five years from now but it's totally inevitable as governments, rather comically, have found themselves unable to find any alternative model even after 2008.





Pakistan, t*rkey and Venezuela's debts are blowing up. Dollar crisis potentially soon.

Basically imagine you're being paid in Pakistan/Turkish/Venezuela currency but borrowed in USD. So you get paid in local currency but due to your currencies collapsing against the dollar, your interest rates get increased 50+% and you get paid less at the same time. Basically they can't pay and they won't.

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Recommend me some nice but not too long piece of theory for my lonely fridey night!

Thank you.

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Sorry I fell asleep shortly after making this thread but thanks anyway!



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The Reproduction of Daily Life



This should be required reading in school.


Good thread, comrades.

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