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 No.1[Reply]

Read the Rules and FAQ before posting

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FAQ

-Why are there two leftypols now?

The leftypol board owner banned people for defending the Kurdish factions in the Syrian war, on the basis that they were supported by the USA and were thus tools of US imperialism. Unable to post on, and unhappy with, the moderation of leftypol, this board was created.

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 No.145218

>>145202

>>145203

that spamming bitch is here again




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 No.1128[Reply]

I started reading Thomas More's Utopia recently and was wondering if we could get a thread going about left wing literature. Anyone else read this and have thoughts on the book? Can it be considered proto-socialist?

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 No.145122

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>>144756

>wypipo tribe bad

>wypipo tribe reactionary

>wypipo tribe no have proletariat only labor aristocracy

>read Sakai/Rodney/Fannon's cave paintings

>listen to MIM shamans

>all settler tribe caves inherently racist

>>144898

>Marx shaman bad

>wuz wypipo tribe




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 No.145312[Reply]

Who hates freedom of speech more these days? Liberals or conservatives?

 No.145329

>>145312

They both pretend to be for free speech until it's speech they don't like.


 No.145335

>>145312

Both, but digital liberals hate it a tad more if we're being honest.


 No.145340

>>145312

Conservatives forever pretty much. There really is no conservative foundation for it - it was literally always bullshit, and frequently over being shut out of things for advocating the reduction of rights for other people. The present day conservative position on this is now completely incoherent - on the one hand, a private business should be able to deny a service to certain people. On the other hand, certain businesses are now doing it to American conservatives for generally being obnoxious twats… so those businesses should stop.

The actual mainstream conservative ideology in America is perpetually authoritarian.


 No.145342

It's always been the conservatives.


 No.145343

>>145312

I'm all for freedom of speech until it tells people to hate and fear me for existing.




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 No.145313[Reply]

Why should I put up with Muslim's running over kids. Why shouldn't I retaliate? I don't think you have an answer. This is totally academic just so in my heart I know I asked.

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 No.145319

>>145313

You shouldn't, reactionary Muslim immigrants should be forced to modernize before receiving any benefits from the countries they move to.


 No.145321

>>145319

okay. That. is different than what I expected. I do have a legitimate right to defend myself against people trying to kill me for not being muslim? You're not going to reframe that as racism?

Now you're putting that into the "reactionary" box? How is that the same as the "reactionary" that leftist use to demonize anyone who opposes communism? Do I have a right to seek to preserve equal justice under the law, innocent until proven guilty, safety in my person and effects? Are these just quaint notions that need to be done away with because white people came up with them?


 No.145324

File: 4372cbb1bb858cf⋯.jpg (90.74 KB, 651x721, 93:103, Teenage_8a2285_2341412.jpg)

>some bronze age savages from societies that are militantly oppressed by western-backed fundamentalist reactionaries against any effort to embrace modernity are acting like bronze age savages

>this degrades the positivist rational secular humanist renaissance enlightenment progressive ideals on which modern civilization is founded

>therefore i should act like a bronze age savage

Bravo


 No.145339

>>145315

>"western" is not codified. I can say " I don't agree with bombing you." and be credible.

Not if you pay taxes, you fucking pussy.

I've known plenty of Muslims who didn't kill me or anybody else. If you're literally paying the government to bomb these people then, yes - saying "I don't agree with bombing you" is literally no more credible than practicing some retarded religion and simultaneously disavowing violence carried out in said religion's name. In fact, if anything, the latter is more credible.

Groups like ISIS, Al Qaeda, etc. kill shit tons of Muslims before they kill anybody else. For many Muslims, not only can these groups be disavowed - embracing them would literally be suicidal. On the other hand - as far as war and terror goes, the "western" gov'ts tend to also kill Muslims and destabilize third world nations first. I mean, cops do a shit ton of damage to western citizens, but even then if you aren't poor or black or whatever you can pretty much live your every day life without them usually being that much of a concern. Very different situation from being, say, a Shia on ISIS turf.


 No.145341

Motorists in general run over a lot more people than muslims. They also release poisonous gases that make you ill and lead to climate catastrophe. If you don't take the bus, you are committing a crime against humanity.




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 No.143215[Reply]

Hey all, here is a thing that I've noticed when it comes to people critiquing any new movie, especially when it comes to things like Star Wars or Star Trek. Everyone thinks that these big corporations are pushing some king of "Left-Wing" agenda when in reality these corporations are only using liberal/feminist talking points as nothing more than a cynical marketing ploy/publicity stunt.

Why don't people ever notice this fact?

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 No.145310

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>>145302

>unironically regurgitating audre lorde

The primary area of contention in complaints about the SJW involvement in popculture isn't the pollution they belch into it, but specifically that their preocupation with popculture as an appropriate and effective arena within which to pursue politics is both misguided for their purported agenda, and harmful to any actual agenda requiring political consciousness by the masses.

This or that political slant in culture is completely irrelevant to any actual political stance the audience may hold, because artistic merit is wholly separate from "message", rendering all attempts to substitute political activism with woke cultural gestures pointless at best, harmful at worst. What it IS very effective at, aside from distracting would-be activists from actual political involvement, is degrading the quality of culture, as culture is promoted/denigrated less for its artistic quality, and more for its ticking boxes for shallow, insipid propaganda.

The entire point of GG and similar movements from day 1 was to push this pseudo-political gibberish out of culture, so that the masses can enjoy the freedom of cultural expression for its own sake, and honestly pursue genuine politics in its proper frame, as part of real life rather than some virtue signaling "everything is political" fashion statement.


 No.145311

>>145302

>They cannot name the jew

What did he means about this?


 No.145325

>>145310

>misguided for their purported agenda, and harmful to any actual agenda requiring political consciousness by the masses.

What? Their agenda is to encourage the will to power of woke liberals in order to make proles complacent. This is the "society of spectacle" after all invading everything with ideology perfectly serves their agenda.

>The entire point of GG and similar movements from day 1 was to push this pseudo-political gibberish out of culture.

Unsurprisingly you got smeared and neckbeards like sargon rode the GG wave to popularity.

And besides most good games are political in someway but are open ended enough so you can form your own conclusions and discuss them.

Vampire the masquerade's setting was written by pagan hippies and degenerates yet the Troika game is great since Strauss, smiling Jack etc tell you to think for yourself and it's highly debatable what the "best" choice is.


 No.145331

>>145311

I'm guessing it was something along the lines of "I enjoy sex with other dudes"


 No.145334

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>>145325

>the will to power of woke liberals

They (the true believers) have no political power, and want none, satisfied in their entirety merely hearing the superficial markers of their own virtue signaling reflected back at them from every angle, any material change to the world they live and suffer in irrelevant to their LARPing. As for those at the head of any shitlib scheme, they too have no political agenda, the height of their ambition is personal enrichment, or even just the opportunity to abuse others free of consequence, they are petty shysters and bullies wrapped in the flag of "progressive" causes they neither care about nor understand in any depth. For both groups, the elimination of any popular involvement politics in favor of a mirage of endless, pointless, inescapable culture wars as the world under their feet is reduced to ashes, suits them perfectly.

>Unsurprisingly you got smeared and neckbeards like sargon rode the GG wave to popularity.

Sargon, like most post-GG eCelebs, started out a milquetoast lib, alongside others that washed away later, such as Investig8iveJournalism or BestGamers. Anything else that were self-declared imports from beyond, such as anti-A+ Slymepitters encompassing left-lolberts like Thunderf00t to hippies like AmazingAtheist, or /pol/yps from the wittier IA, to the pathetic KoP, to the loopier S4T. That post-GG eCelebs pandered to the aut-right wasn't GG's fault, so much as the result of success by SJWs in consolidating their claim over "left"ism.

I think the greatest failure of GG, aside from not concentrating day 1 primarily on personal "deathblow" tactics like hiring private investigators and bankrolling lawsuits to destroy the core SJW clique, was the stonewall persistence of SJWs in academia and the yellow press peaking at the Berkeley spergout, which solidified the aut-right as characterizing everything about GG, and made it virtually impossible to reform or expunge SJWs from their institutional powerbase inside the "left".

>And besides most good games are political in someway but are open ended enough so yPost too long. Click here to view the full text.




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 No.144980[Reply]

What the fuck is up with the schizophrenia that is the Anglo nations?

They worship violence, conflict, and angst. Any piece of media that's happy or fun is "de-generate" or immature.

The adults are covert supporters of bullying. Any child that's surrounded by happy people and pure love is "weak" They need" to be punched in the face and gut, spat on, and laughed at to "toughen up, 'cause life is unfair."

(Yet, if a child was to bully an elder, it's "disrespect.")

They believe that young men who aren't dumb enough to knock up a bitch or marry is a "selfish manchild who's afraid of responsibility."

(Even though Anglo countries are notorious for their disdain of children, going as far as to ban them from public spaces and conjure up fantastical correlations between video games and mass-shootings or anime and homosexuality.)

They believe video games cause mass shootings, yet adults watch hours of violent movies and love reading stories about mentally ill people and their fetishes. And they want the young to do all the dirty work (warfare, police, hospitals where gore and violations of ethics are common.)

An who can forget the Anglo war fetish? They want young people to fight in pointless wars yet, when young people protest the injustices done to the homeland, they're "unruly children to be put down."

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 No.145278

I'm british but at I don't live in a J.e.w controlled country with a K.i.k.e.d president that hands all the countries money to P.i.s.s.r,a.e.l if any America needs to be nuked along with P.i.s.s.r.a.e.l.


 No.145280

I'm just saying boyh countries have there problems yours is not any better so don't go ripping the piss out of another country when yours is in just as much shit.


 No.145298

>>145278

Uh, I would tend to disagree considering your country was bigger imperalists than we were. But let's pretend that didn't happen, sure.


 No.145300

>>145298

And your monarchy is full of Jewish money thanks to Churchill. Who, attacked Indians but let's forget that too.


 No.145332

>>145278

>de joooooooooooooooz

clear off or I'll post a petanko sitting on someone's face




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 No.135966[Reply]

what are /leftpol/'s thoughts about Lee Harvey Oswald?

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 No.145316

[autism]the game[/autism]


 No.145320

>>135966

CIA double agent who wasn't supposed to be caught, leading to his haphazard murder by Jack Ruby at the behest of local gangsters and businessmen involved with the JFK assassination plot.


 No.145322

>>135966

Poor guy who happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Being a communist didn't helped at all.


 No.145330

that you glow in the dark, OP




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 No.145288[Reply]

>REEEE my boss keeps exploiting my labor and giving me shitty wages, fuck capitalism!

<why don’t you stop contributing to the system and opt out of it, bro

>BUT MUH CONSUMER PRODUCTS, MUH COMFY LIVE, THE REVOLUTION IS COMING SOON, START ORGANIZING YOU INDIVIDUALIST LUMPENSCUM PARASITE

I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s nothing but nonsense to claim to be anti-capitalist and yet still contribute to the system. To have a job and allow yourself to be exploited, cramming your lives into the inhuman rat-race, is to consent to capitalism and live by its whims. Reactionaries do have a point when they bring up stuff like the iphone argument. Capitalism has brought immense material prosperity and new forms of technology – too much of it. The proletariat has been bourgeoisified, living empty lives surrounded by more and more procucts they didn’t know they needed and buying them with money they don’t even have. I’m sick of communists glorifying being a cog in porky’s machines. The revolution isn’t coming and the capitalist state only further consolidates itself and keeps its proles comfy with golden chains and soulless entertainment. It’s time to leave the system and live a low-tech life out in the wilderness where humans can have control over the essentials in their life – food, defense, working hours, clothing, etc, real goals.

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 No.145304

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>>145288

>move into jungle

>capitalists continue clear-cutting it while contributing to climate change

>climate change turns it into scorching desert above survivable temperatures or sinks it underwater

>die


 No.145305

>>145288

Joke's on you, I'm a NEET


 No.145306

File: 94b40858c474588⋯.webm (3.58 MB, 480x360, 4:3, Time To Talk About Jobs.webm)


 No.145308

>>145305

Unless you are completely off the grid you are still contributing to capitalism.

You don't work but you still buy food, shelter, clothes, electricity, etc, I mean, someone buys those stuff for you. And this act of consumption keeps capitalism going.


 No.145309

*stops being a cog*

i did it, OP.




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 No.145253[Reply]

Comrades, who here is willing to begin talking about armed revolution, and is willing to beginning organizing armed protests? (Not organizing revolt, just armed protests)

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 No.145265

File: fb1aa2bdbd75741⋯.jpg (101.07 KB, 850x450, 17:9, communism will win.jpg)

>protests

>revolt

>with a bunch of untrained, undisciplined LARPers

>as the basis of armed resistence

Entryism into and subversion of the world's premier fighting force when?


 No.145266

Not everyone is an American here, thankfully.


 No.145267

What's up guys give me your home addresses.


 No.145285

>Armed protest

Literally just inviting the enemy to shoot you first.

But nice try anyway, CIA.


 No.145307

File: aaece05a6f945a5⋯.png (11.18 KB, 250x250, 1:1, 892e90e9f3e416eeb96c9deacb….png)

nice try :)




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 No.144717[Reply]

So i atleast intill this point was pretty rigth wing,i watch people like Hunter Avallone and No Bullshit and i agreed with them on many levels.Like that trans people dont exist, that there are two genders ans so on.I belive that white is a supirior race and womans place is in the kitchen and that old values like family and politeness are important.But i also agree with some communist ideas like that there should be no private land and property and so on and so on.At moments i was totaly lost was i conservative was i a libtard or a centrist.Then i found nazbol and now i feel fulfilled.I now what i am and my meaning.Thank you Rissia very cool.So whats your expirience with nazbol.How do you feel about it

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 No.145196

>>145151

Finnbol is a giant liberal, just like most Marxist communists. He needs sent to a gulag

>pro homo

>atheist

>muh poor immigrants

>anti-huwhite


 No.145207

File: c390713af1df099⋯.jpeg (183.44 KB, 1242x967, 1242:967, 65A44AF3-5CCF-44C6-8050-3….jpeg)

>>145196

Pic related. Look at the bottom. How would finnyboy feel about that?

>>145187

I have mixed feelings on them, I don't want their shit advertised by big business, including tranny shit. Nationalized businesses


 No.145241

>>144931

I dont just watch them.I watch mr obvios, Ben Shapiro and many others


 No.145284

>>145241

>Ben Shapiro

Ben is literally retarded. He just knows how to talk really fast and make """witty""" remarks to appear smart.

Vid very much related.

https://youtu.be/lIVRVTjbJ5Y


 No.145296

>>145241

Mr. Obvious is ok, if a bit condescending. No Bullshit is too much of a porky lover




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 No.145084[Reply]

Post your favourite videos by ecelebs.

Post your complaints about anons posting videos by ecelebs.

https://youtu.be/yvirpCAbGSY

"According to the numbers 70 % of all businesses fail within 10 years. And if you're failing after 10 years, that means you have been struggling and having a terrible time of it for that entire time. It's just not a proposition that most people can undergo realistically. It's worse than gambling. I could go to Las Vegas. And I could go to the craps table. And I could bet on the pass line with odds, and I have a 50/50 chance that I'm going to win on that bet. Your chances are better in Las Vegas at the craps table than they are for you to go out and bootstrap your own business with your life savings, for the vast majority of workers on planet Earth."

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 No.145227

I should do a part 3 of my Frankfurt school series


 No.145257

>>145217

>real women

You sicken me


 No.145283

>>145096

Isn't he just like one of Jim Profit's fans who decided to start uploading?


 No.145286

>>145283

I’m not sure, but his videos are fun to watch. He’s redpilled on a lot of the same things as me


 No.145295

>>145283

I started uploading before I knew much of him




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 No.145231[Reply]

There are not marxist ethics

What ethical system is the most compatible with marxism?

I just want some guidance about human interactions.

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 No.145259

>>145231

>I just want some guidance about human interactions.

Try to minimize harm and barriers to people's autonomy. People will seek out their own happiness if they're allowed to. And be kind as much as possible. Everybody else is living a life you don't know the details of.


 No.145261

>ethics

Formalizing ethics into "systems" is the most retarded thing ever. In the end nobody gives a fuck and just does what feels right to them and breaks all the rules of any "system" to serve their own interests. read stirner though


 No.145263

File: d34cfc3ac7e1ba5⋯.gif (6.96 KB, 273x537, 91:179, morality.gif)


 No.145269

>>145263

This is why ‘might makes right’ is the only answer


 No.145293

Christianity.




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 No.108262[Reply]

I’ll start with two examples that are much more common than what they claim. Exhibit A: the anti-fun crusaders browse a diaper-fetish board and display their copies of Evola proudly as the other considers himself a traditionalist. So this is the power of anti-fun

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 No.144475

They're doing it for us at this point

>>>/abdl/87460


 No.144499

File: 9079f8c7328d8b1⋯.png (63.04 KB, 500x400, 5:4, 9079f8c7328d8b1b18d8f15f29….png)

epic-style


 No.145290

Richard Spencer's bumptious sidekick Gregory Conte getting cucked by Dickie. (The alt right rumour mill has it they were at a conference, and Conte walked into his hotel room to find his girlfriend in a threesome with Spencer and Spencer's girlfriend.)

https://youtu.be/kl6UzB5V0H4


 No.145291

And then there was Richard Spencer"s previous P. A. , “Eli Moseley“, a military fantasist :

https://taskandpurpose.com/leading-us-neo-nazi-turns-military-faker


 No.145292

>>145290

Both of them ended up denying the rumor apparently but I wouldn't put it past Spencer and his side boy/couple to deny it for their image, remember even /pol/ hated Spencer so he's the worst of the worst and just like Ann Coulter or UKIP man he has a brand to run off right wing idiots who willingly donate to them.




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 No.1025[Reply]

If we're moving here we may as well bring the best part of /leftypol/ along with us.

Movies, anime, music, feels, e-celebs, internet drama, fetishes and shitposting ITT

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 No.145264

>>145254

>muh white genocide


 No.145268

>>145264

Imagine thinking the entire world getting cosmopolitanized and native cultures being destroyed and native demographics getting replaced by their own governments doesn’t matter to the average prole


 No.145273

>>145268

Imagine caring about spooks.


 No.145277

>>145273

Imagine caring about violating people's rights


 No.145287

>>145273

>muh zboogz

You prove yourself to be an urbanite who has no sense of culture, tradition or sense of community beyond yourself, just like most Marxist or anarchist filth




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 No.140592[Reply]

Are there any Marxist thinkers that aren't materialists or is that a contradiction in terms? I read pic related, and I found many of the points of view interesting, particularly about alienation, but I'm not on board with the historical materialism. It's fairly obvious to me that God and the supernatural exists, though I think they are susceptible of a critique as well. Kafka's deconstruction of God's providential order in the Trial, the Castle etc is brilliant, imo, and has the virtue of not evading the problem by just rejecting the existence of God, angels etc. Are there any Marxist inspired works critiquing religion without rejecting the basic assumptions (e.g. God exists, supernatural realms exist, spiritual discipline are efficacious etc)? Let's say, for example, a critique of God, but one that accepts he exists.

I'm not very well schooled in leftist thought, so please be patient with me -__-

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 No.145195

>>145144

>allowing falsehoods to persist

Why should we allow people to believe in harmful beliefs that simply are false? This is a bourgeois deviation. The state shouldn’t let retards believe that 2 + 2 = 5 or similar falsehoods just because muh feels. Churches need turned into parking lots, priests executed en masse, worshippers sent to gulags and religious texts thrown into the purifying flames of revolution. Tabula rasa now.


 No.145242

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>>145195

>Why should we allow people to believe in harmful beliefs that simply are false?

Because it's none of your business (so long believers don't try and impose beliefs and practices on other people.)


 No.145256

>>145242

It is my business. The religious must be removed from public life and their beliefs corrected to conform with reality. You are a liberal


 No.145262

>>145242

én means "me" in Hungarian


 No.145270

>>145262

No one gives a fuck, Magyarnigger




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