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File: 460358fe779523f⋯.jpg (879.88 KB, 2048x1536, 4:3, IRA.jpg)

 No.24960

What are some good books/resources on insurgencies and guerrilla war in general, and successful insurgencies specifically? I know the IRA was one of the most successful and I've been wondering specifically why and if there's a book that talks about it.

 No.24985

File: 9841660ebf14506⋯.pdf (2.09 MB, [Prof._James_J._Brittain]_….pdf)

File: d362aae75741eeb⋯.pdf (6.85 MB, televisionaries.pdf)

Here's a book on the FARC and a timeline of the RAF.


 No.24986

>>24960

The IRA was also massively compromised by british intelligence. Do your research on spying and counter-spying, too.


 No.24987

File: 4ce7dcdcf022670⋯.pdf (1.1 MB, Tom Nomad - The Master's T….pdf)


 No.25007

>>24985

Can the FARC and the RAF be considered successful?


 No.25054

Books:

>Violent Politics: A History of Terrorism and Geurilla Warfare by William Polk

>On Geurilla Warfare by Mao

>The IRA’s Little Green Book (not to be confused with Ghadaffi’s Little Green Book)

>The Other Side of the Mountain: Mujahideen Tactics in the Soviet-Afghan War

YouTube Channels

>Brent 0331 (imperialist jarhead but he knows what he’s talking about)

>Military History Visualized

Also surprisingly in depth…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NLF_and_PAVN_battle_tactics


 No.25057

File: 324073f6f8e01d9⋯.png (17.72 KB, 311x277, 311:277, IRA never ever.png)

>>24960

>the IRA was one of the most successful insurgencies

>borders have stayed exactly the same since 1921

>only real changes are social reforms that would have happened anyway


 No.25059

>>25057

The Good Friday agreement was a pretty big deal, it stated that the UK would cede ulster to Ireland if the majority wanted it. Getting an imperialist power desperately clinging to the remnants of a once great empire to agree to something like that is no small feat.


 No.25061

>>25059

>The Good Friday agreement was a pretty big deal

That has everything to do with Blairism (being his only real achievement) and nothing to do with the IRA being particularly effective, the entire country was just tired of it and the IRA effectively accepted a white peace in a conflict they started, that's hardly a victory. We've known since 1921 that a majority in NI don't want to be Irish, that was the whole point, and if that had ever changed the government would have been forced to concede anyway.


 No.25089

>>25007

not really, when they became a problem the goverment simply exterminated them, the only reason they have even survived this long is because other things affected profit more than them, and thus they got exterminated first (i.e. 80s drug cartels, M-19, more agresive groups, etc), besides they get funding from drug enterprises, which are literally capitalist structures stracting surplus value from exploited workers, i know the bolsheviks got funding from germany and from ilegal activities, like bank robbing, but to my knowlege they themselves never operated one of the most profitable capitalist enterprises in the entire world, which is what farc did


 No.25098

Ireland is one of the top tax havens in the world. They clearly failed.


 No.25102

File: 9b9540b50aaa1cb⋯.gif (3.75 MB, 359x202, 359:202, american pig.gif)


 No.25168

>>25007

RAF, no. FARC are at least still standing.


 No.25176

File: bb002a946752f0f⋯.jpg (2.42 MB, 4128x2322, 16:9, 20171208_144749.jpg)


 No.25354

File: ce7d39c60aa5fb9⋯.jpg (26.53 KB, 225x346, 225:346, 51Kun4aZ-bL._SY344_BO1,204….jpg)

Xin chào!


 No.25356

File: 50aad7337473487⋯.gif (75.46 KB, 500x309, 500:309, kurtz-apocalypse-now.gif)

>What are some good books/resources on insurgencies and guerrilla war in general, and successful insurgencies specifically?

Apocalypse now.


 No.25361

Why have guerrilla groups been so pathetic and ineffectual in the West, besides the IRA? Most of them seemed to be indistinguishable from criminal enterprises with the odd bombing and assassination. Was it simply just radicals who thought you could have an insurgency without a mass movement, basically trying to force a revolution by political violence? Can the successes of 3rd world insurgencies be from the fact that there was an existing popular movement that the fighters were fighting for, while in the West there was no corresponding movement and as such nothing real to fight for?


 No.25380

>>25361

I think so. What it comes to is that insurgencies do not win militarily, but politically, since insurgents if they know what they're doing will never go toe-to-toe with a regime's army. A regime can throw everything they have at an insurgency, but if the insurgents play their cards right, the regime just sinks deeper like in quicksand.

A lot of left-wing guerrilla groups in the 1970s in Europe, the U.S., South America, Japan, etc. also got wrapped up in the cult of Che Guevara and the Foco theory. The Foco theory broke with Marxism-Leninism by believing that the objective conditions of a revolution (political support among the masses) could be generated by small bands of committed guerrillas – which was also a break from Maoist people's war!

It worked in Cuba but it failed everywhere else Che tried it, ultimately resulting in Che's death. I don't know what conclusions to draw from that. I think the Maoist doctrine has a better track record. (Adapted for Vietnam, Northern Ireland, etc.)


 No.25388

File: 1bf892247112646⋯.png (95.2 KB, 500x500, 1:1, thinking growlithe.png)

>>25361

>why are insurgencies in states with strong, stable governments less effective?


 No.25590

File: e99f4484f5a9d6c⋯.pdf (1.09 MB, Spy and Counterspy.pdf)

>>24986

That reminds me of this pdf I downloed from here a while ago. It's a collection of articles from an old web 1.0 site about countersurveillance. A lot of good stuff in here, unfortunately it's incomplete. I don't know if it's because the rest of the articles weren't written or because someone never compiled them.

Does anyone have any other books or resources about stuff like this?

>>25176

Downloaded it awhile ago, but haven't gotten around to reading it yet. What a badass name tho.

>>25380

Reading about it, Foco Theory sounds exactly like Marxist propaganda-of-the-deed. Looks like it failed just as badly.

>>25388

It's hard to say they were less effective when they weren't effective at all. They were too busy playing revolutionary to actually try to start a revolution.


 No.25592

>>24960

hello fbi


 No.25593

>>25592

Sharing pdfs isn't illegal retard. We're all on a list just by coming to this site. Baselessly accusing others of being Feds is a Fed tactic in itself.


 No.25595

>>25593

>muh Guerrila warfare

the true vanguard operates in secrecy


 No.25604

File: ce5f11072e2ab30⋯.png (265.32 KB, 630x630, 1:1, 80fc8891c7abad081d12dc4d8a….png)

>>25595

Mate, just stop associating with any and all leftist movements for a few years until you've matured enough to understand just how unbelievably embarrassing this was.


 No.25607

>>25380

>I think the Maoist doctrine has a better track record

Here’s Maoisim in three words, Revisionism, Revisionism, Revisionism


 No.25608

>>25361

>Why have guerrilla groups been so pathetic and ineffectual in the West

Because they were larpers, not actual insurgents.


 No.25634

>>25608

>mfw you LARP so hard you actually kill people


 No.25639

>>25595

<well you'll work harder with a gun in your back

<for a bowl of rice a day

<slave like soldiers till ya starve

<and your head get's skewered on a stake


 No.25682

>>25634

What is charsleville.




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