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File: 8a3f334665a9cb6⋯.jpg (74.88 KB, 580x479, 580:479, _20180322_161546.JPG)

 No.41352

ITT: We post results of political orientation tests we took and recommend new/good ones and discuss the results. I will start with a good old 8values test.

 No.41362

File: f8ffb9e4943178b⋯.png (57.25 KB, 800x650, 16:13, crsoc.png)

>>41352

Pretty close to reality I must say.


 No.41365

File: 8ea0ee5d862b83c⋯.png (89.75 KB, 750x1334, 375:667, 38EDE6E4-21D0-4770-82B3-14….png)

Accurate


 No.41374

File: 66716362665b9f1⋯.jpg (56.81 KB, 459x492, 153:164, compass.jpg)

Shit, I thought I was more authoritarian.


 No.41379

File: 49ef727d70f9a32⋯.png (51.04 KB, 398x319, 398:319, 2018-03-22.png)

>>41374

Okay, fuck off.


 No.41382

File: 05fc2e41a52d92f⋯.gif (4.32 MB, 450x340, 45:34, Laughing.gif)

>>41379

>Social Liberalism

This is why I hate that test.


 No.41383

File: 1dd3bd04a8ccecc⋯.png (17.21 KB, 480x400, 6:5, chart.png)

>>41365

Somebody actually managed to score in the red? Man, you must have to make up all kinds of answers to get there.


 No.41386

File: 9b1054d250e9be7⋯.png (336.56 KB, 600x399, 200:133, e371d6aa14c82ae1deb449c26b….png)

File: 442eacd6c0107ef⋯.png (232.15 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, oPHRFHN.png)

I am not a red I am not a red I AM NOT A RED FUCK OFF REEEEEEEEEEEEE


 No.41390

File: 83703f53f1937f7⋯.png (204.42 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, politiscales.png)

>>41374

>>41379

Fine, that's more like it.


 No.41405

File: a82199ff989d24f⋯.png (223.45 KB, 750x1334, 375:667, IMG_9019.PNG)

File: bb02f4d00d09cdf⋯.jpg (124.84 KB, 500x750, 2:3, IMG_9014.JPG)


 No.41408

>>41383

Not really, I usually end up in lower red. If you’re kid is screeching in the middle of wal Mart, you need to spank that little shit.


 No.41412

>>41386

The dialectic is truly in motion.


 No.41414

File: 53666c3745203d1⋯.jpg (47.43 KB, 640x480, 4:3, abandoncommunism.jpg)

>>41379

I get that sometimes on the test also

kill me


 No.41416

File: 3c16cfc44637bf4⋯.png (179.21 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, politiscale.PNG)


 No.41483

File: ee9f551647daf92⋯.png (196.06 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, canvas2.png)

File: 01e4d485c084029⋯.png (72.51 KB, 999x704, 999:704, another test.PNG)

File: 892e9e06e9904af⋯.png (119.95 KB, 682x817, 682:817, pic.PNG)


 No.41487

>>41483

>that third test

Oh god, kill me. Also, something something NazBol gang.


 No.41488

>>41483

>Obama listed far-left

You want to know how to determine that a chart is bullshit?


 No.41494

File: 25d3b75b6ed3005⋯.png (210.28 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, cuckboi.png)

>tfw you're a generic lib

I've been teetering on the edge of falling into full leftism for a while after the online """SCEPTIC""" community became more blatant in their racism and general ideology


 No.41509

File: 53418d4d010243a⋯.png (105.84 KB, 478x712, 239:356, politiscales.png)

File: c7fe4c84c9c5c33⋯.jpg (38.33 KB, 480x360, 4:3, values.jpg)

File: 492529a90a3a201⋯.png (10.32 KB, 480x400, 6:5, compass.png)

>>41352

Google Bookchin


 No.41518

File: 04ddc0ae6c08a90⋯.png (210.71 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, download.png)

File: a14d1d3175e2031⋯.png (101.37 KB, 800x650, 16:13, centrist.png)

File: 312bd53925fb04d⋯.png (17.29 KB, 480x400, 6:5, chart.png)

Don't bother making fun of me for being centrist, I don't actually care about politics, I'm just looking around here and I like going through tests


 No.41526

File: cd2eecded6b9f4d⋯.png (186.94 KB, 395x212, 395:212, aldnoha communism.PNG)

>>41386

You are red friend. Just embrace it.

I used to be a monarchist too. Read Marxist literature. It will redpill you truly. It will open your eyes… and de-spook you. You don't need to go full reeeeing left-winger instantly and hate on what you used to love all of a sudden. Just respect it as a part of your history and don't be sad aobout it or look back in nostalgia. It's time to move on Anon. It's time.


 No.41555

File: c55fe87dbab4038⋯.png (83.45 KB, 800x600, 4:3, furvalues test.png)

>>41352

not really sure what my result means


 No.41557

File: 983192080b2af90⋯.jpg (110.27 KB, 1290x537, 430:179, My politiscale 1.JPG)

File: 94ba830e6c6934e⋯.jpg (29.43 KB, 1289x307, 1289:307, My politiscale 1.5.JPG)


 No.41567

File: 6be93d14e11b17e⋯.jpg (206.88 KB, 1024x1012, 256:253, DXy16foW4AY98kA.jpg)

File: b5ed52b9c918087⋯.jpg (65.25 KB, 379x512, 379:512, 2018-02-01 03.06.02-2.jpg)

>>41526

Nah I was just playin' with the words , still I don't really embrace any of your guys views , I am a clerical fascist .

Plus it sounds strange to say "de-spook" when you are a Christ Com don't you think ?

It is not a sentiment of nostalgia , it is a national duty entrusted by God in his creation to defend what is utmost holy and defend our nation from any foreign threat .


 No.41582

>>41567

>Plus it sounds strange to say "de-spook" when you are a Christ Com don't you think ?

Lel, yeah it is. They are not exactly known for their ideological consistency.

>a national duty entrusted by God

Huh. You would have thought that the bourgeois revolutionary assembly that created the nation would have included God's input in the minutes of the meeting at which He sanctified their creation.

>and defend our nation from any foreign threat

It's a bit odd that He would encourage you to defend your newly-created nation against guys from all those other nations that He created before. It's also odd that He would give them the same order that He gave to you, to defend their nations against all other nations. It's almost as if He is setting you all up to fight with one another over absolutely nothing. You don't think He'd do that, do you, not even as a joke?


 No.41587

File: fee3d85531898f9⋯.jpg (56.81 KB, 1531x379, 1531:379, egoist anarchism.jpg)

File: 555b59ee7d40d06⋯.png (380.58 KB, 1902x896, 951:448, mystate.png)

>>41352

none / my own.

2nd pic is what I would like if I were on the influence of state tho. Economically socialist I fucked up and ended mixed but I meant socialist there.


 No.41592

File: c09d1fc157e4f2a⋯.jpg (2.34 MB, 2723x2000, 2723:2000, El_milagro_de_Empel.jpg)

>>41582

You should take in consideration that you are viewing what I said in it's non-methaphorical way .

The "national duty entrusted by God" is a reference to an Epic wrote by one of our famous poets that talked about how every citizen ( the ones in my country ) had a duty entrusted by God to spread our faith and protect our country .

If you want to take it in the most welcomed intrepretation between our circles it goes a bit to say how we were given the tool and spirit to be able to defend our nation , family and religion whenever is needed , and it is our duty to do it too .

The foreign threat must not be interpreted as something like another nation and it's people but an ideology, something like communism a stateless enemy .

Every nation had/has their own wars , the thing is that it is not God that creates them but the Human essence , the liberty that he gave to us is used for decisions like war , it is sad that we have to fight yet something must be done to protect those who can not be protected .


 No.41625

>>41592

>You should take in consideration that you are viewing what I said in it's non-methaphorical way .

Of course. The joke is that there is no real component to it.

>The foreign threat must not be interpreted as something like another nation and it's people but an ideology, something like communism a stateless enemy .

A vague and faceless enemy is always the easiest to hate. Unfortunately, every real enemy that must die, every real threat, has a face.

>the thing is that it is not God that creates them but the Human essence

How convenient. God tells everyone from every nation to protect themselves from one another and then absolves himself of all responsibility when they inevitably fight.


 No.41630

>>41625

Yet again this goes to the fact that I an Idealist is trying to talk with a materialist .

The enemy has a face from time to time , the bolsheviks , CNT , Spartacists , etc , you can not kill an ideology but you can kill those that live by it.

The "protection" is against the sins that can include violence , he is not to blame for our sins , we are human , our creator gave us the liberty for such .


 No.41631

>>41630

He is not worth your time brother, neither time nor knoweledge, you should get back to our board…


 No.41708

>>41630

>Yet again this goes to the fact that I an Idealist is trying to talk with a materialist.

So true. It's honestly surprising to see an ancap who knows what that means. Usually they want to play at being the scientific ones.

>The enemy has a face from time to time

The enemy always has a face, because the enemy is always real people. The only time that an enemy can not have a face is when you are talking about theory.

>our creator gave us the liberty for such.

While supposedly knowing precisely what we would do with them. Whether or not He approves in theory, his actions support the quite predictable present reality.


 No.41710

File: 948bd144e3ab665⋯.png (257.65 KB, 1440x1646, 720:823, Capture _2018-03-23-16-30-….png)

Yeah noice


 No.41733

political orientation tests are shit


 No.41737

>>41708

I am not an Ancap , I just used the wrong flag .

The enemy might not always have a face yet you do have representations of it .

And I don't get your last point .


 No.41742

File: ade005cc9234e8e⋯.jpg (237.45 KB, 1435x2035, 287:407, IMG_20180323_040859.jpg)

Never taken this quiz before but I guess its accurate.


 No.41811

>>41737

>I am not an Ancap , I just used the wrong flag

Ah, that explains it. Damn, for a second I thought that an ancap had actually read more than sci-fi novels and self-help books.

>And I don't get your last point

It is a point about culpability. Whatever He may approve or disaprove of in principle, His actions predetermined a particular outcome that He undoubtedly expected. The men whom you would blame for wars are not independent actors in this scenario. Rather they are predictable creations.


 No.41820

>>41811

He expected us to sin that is true after what happened in the Edens Garden , yet he also expected us to not sin , even if it is a very small amount of people . Through good works and faith alongside a self-sacrifice for a life fighting for Christendom we shall have our salvation .


 No.44352

File: 2fa3ad884195376⋯.png (88.87 KB, 800x600, 4:3, 8 values.PNG)

File: 73fe0d7dfb22fa3⋯.png (47.51 KB, 601x593, 601:593, comp.PNG)

File: 448f6cdf6cd3d1a⋯.png (118.09 KB, 888x616, 111:77, coordonnées politiques.PNG)

File: e85bc62301fa861⋯.png (303.42 KB, 1803x830, 1803:830, politicscale.PNG)

File: 133cd77170f0ee5⋯.png (92.33 KB, 1132x704, 283:176, political test.PNG)


 No.44356

File: 16afbe9af58b0ae⋯.jpg (56.54 KB, 604x523, 604:523, because the bible tells me….jpg)

>>41820

If we believe the bible, God literally created mankind knowing Adam would sin and humans would always fail to live up to his commandments and that he would be constantly enraged by the beings that he himself tailormade. He knew even that I would be writing this now at this exact second as he was creating humans. The only possibilities are A: god is somehow both omnipotent and incompetent, he failed to create a being to live up to what he wanted despite perfect power and knowledge, or B: god is a sadist who loves to punish people and he made humans the way they are on purpose just so he would have an excuse to be angry. Either way why worship him?


 No.44371

File: 6f098b992a3775d⋯.jpg (10.73 KB, 300x225, 4:3, 003.jpg)

>>44356

Why would he be enraged over us ? God is not a person that "gets mad" neither he wants us to suffer .

Yet at the same time to give such a powerfull quality as the one "to be happy" must precede one where the existance of true liberty in form of free will .

"the free will of man, moved and excited by God, can by its consent co-operate with God, Who excites and invites its action; and that it can thereby dispose and prepare itself to obtain the grace of justification. The will can resist grace if it chooses. It is not like a lifeless thing, which remains purely passive. Weakened and diminished by Adam's fall, free will is yet not destroyed in the race (Sess. VI, cap. i and v)."

As much as I hate to use the word "dualism" in this concept it is what it is . To achieve true faith in the creator sin must exist , Aquinas wrote extensively about this .

No god does not want us to sin neither should we but it is something that the free will of man allows for , only then can the opposite exist .


 No.44372

>>44356

Because if you don't worship him, he'll torture you forever.


 No.44385

File: fda9d99c5e6c0c5⋯.png (216.24 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, meme-quiz-politikkk.png)

File: bcd4b68ba214da5⋯.png (66.18 KB, 800x650, 16:13, 8-meme-values.png)

Why do I think there is a bunch of liberals here. I've probably misinterpreted some questions.


 No.44389

>>44352

What is the last pic political test from?


 No.44506

File: 83adf2e6f686f8c⋯.png (31.34 KB, 604x491, 604:491, 8values.png)

File: a1f1bcb9938f398⋯.png (8.08 KB, 505x443, 505:443, meme compass.png)

File: add85ea00407911⋯.png (467.37 KB, 1809x1329, 603:443, frenchie political test.png)

File: c7fe0a84d96bfef⋯.png (14.22 KB, 405x361, 405:361, political coordinates.png)

It pisses me off when it's unclear whether the questions are meant to be about an ideal scenario or in the present context.

What even is this bullshit with political coordinates btw?

>communitarian vs liberal

fucking what


 No.44509

>>44371

>Why would he be enraged over us ?

Because He is a jealous god, a wrathful god, a vengeful god.


 No.44598

File: 0f858cf0f9fea0c⋯.png (101.74 KB, 800x650, 16:13, descarga.png)


 No.44601

>>44509

Those are all qualities that do not apply to the Res divina .


 No.44648

>>44601

>res divina

"Divine law?" Do you worship Judge Dredd?


 No.44676

>>44648

Divine Substance … It is from Descartes


 No.44680

File: a841a3b406e242e⋯.png (111.05 KB, 946x679, 946:679, 06b74b8dc0c4a3ea9f4e57deb4….png)

File: b01f2d48e7e7a3d⋯.png (71.56 KB, 396x380, 99:95, Screen Shot 2018-02-04 at ….png)

File: 3d5ecfb0e913197⋯.png (60.14 KB, 314x417, 314:417, Screen Shot 2017-12-11 at ….png)

File: 4574a99b7291fb3⋯.png (146.04 KB, 1194x747, 398:249, Screen Shot 2018-03-30 at ….png)


 No.44751

File: c8a5e7fa44c7bda⋯.png (301.13 KB, 1791x805, 1791:805, tjekk it át.png)


 No.44774

File: e8849642a1eb700⋯.png (349.21 KB, 982x1412, 491:706, politic1.PNG)

File: 380fb5bc9dbdbe0⋯.png (196.4 KB, 2190x1494, 365:249, politic2.PNG)


 No.44811

File: bdc2e785aa06a6f⋯.jpg (165.17 KB, 1268x524, 317:131, pure ideology.jpg)

File: a9ce293b49ec6f5⋯.png (6.35 KB, 464x232, 2:1, pure ideology 2.png)

File: fc82e75e8bcc800⋯.png (66.72 KB, 1260x405, 28:9, pure ideology c.png)


 No.45481

>>44811

Based


 No.45605

File: ffd11e698df8066⋯.png (465.94 KB, 998x1472, 499:736, Screenshot_20180402-214610….png)


 No.45609

File: 700ce62cbce5c3b⋯.png (197.56 KB, 720x1280, 9:16, Screenshot_2018-04-02-15-5….png)

File: 65ca43a6798777f⋯.png (184.23 KB, 720x1280, 9:16, Screenshot_2018-04-02-16-0….png)

>>44385

On my phone right now.

I answered it as it was pertaining to me and my beliefs and I got Stalin.

Answered according to what Peter would be (bourgeois,sit and wait) and got him.

I guess Ancom with tankie characteristics it is.


 No.45743

File: 59b790186427130⋯.png (191.27 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, polisca.png)

File: d169858ea9d10fe⋯.png (37.34 KB, 800x650, 16:13, 8val.png)

>>41352

Bangon sa pagkakabusabos!

Bangon mga bihag ng gutom!

Katwiran ay bulkang sasabog

buong lakas na dadagungong!

Gapos ng kahapo'y lagutin!

Tayong api ay magbalikwas!

Tayo ngayo'y inaalipin

subalit atin ang bukas!

Ito ang huling paglalaban, magkaisa nang masaklaw ng internasyunal ang sangkatauhan!

Wala tayong maasahang bathala o manunubos!

Kaya't ang ating kaligtasa'y nasa ating pagkilos!

Manggagawa bawiin ang yaman!

Kaisipa'y palayain!

Ang maso ay ating hawakan,

kinabukasa'y pandayin!

Ito ang huling paglalaban, magkaisa nang masaklaw ng internasyunal ang sangkatauhan!


 No.45749

File: 57cad2fb93aecc5⋯.png (23.61 KB, 517x454, 517:454, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 08a209400fd6580⋯.png (549.55 KB, 1821x1870, 1821:1870, ClipboardImage.png)

File: e76505e156f7844⋯.png (196.53 KB, 645x956, 645:956, ClipboardImage.png)

File: e76505e156f7844⋯.png (196.53 KB, 645x956, 645:956, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 02f58f9ead3bae5⋯.png (190.43 KB, 1021x835, 1021:835, ClipboardImage.png)

LIBERALS GET OF MY BOARD

REEEEEEEEEEEE


 No.45759

File: 69869d10c15fe6d⋯.png (220.2 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, Family revolution Socialis….png)

Rather Accurate.


 No.45792

File: 2f2438d32f6f43c⋯.jpg (196.76 KB, 1181x661, 1181:661, 1032a864e2f83c4a2175179627….jpg)

File: c2bc8d647a506c9⋯.png (59.9 KB, 800x650, 16:13, dem_59789a0e3b511.png)

File: 94c5ceff6632eb8⋯.jpg (47.4 KB, 773x441, 773:441, 001.jpg)

Hello there, fellow communists! Please share all you are planning to do with me! We fight for the prol scum, right?


 No.45832

File: 91c80769b340632⋯.png (565.12 KB, 750x1334, 375:667, E2EC8FCD-EF60-4523-93C7-25….png)

Equality, justice and humanity.


 No.45848

File: 18cfaf2912c27fd⋯.png (168.84 KB, 720x1280, 9:16, Screenshot_20180403-163108.png)

>>41352

>>45743

>>44811

Superior results


 No.45854

File: 3542b19b5e27a6c⋯.jpg (109.72 KB, 720x955, 144:191, _20180403_115137.JPG)

>>45848

Damn I uploaded the uncut screenshot… please don't gulag me for being a phone fag I am on way home from work.


 No.47720

File: 89c387e529cd898⋯.png (89.06 KB, 800x600, 4:3, 8_values_test_results_by_j….png)


 No.47755

File: 74122ff4df79e14⋯.png (92.77 KB, 800x600, 4:3, download.png)

File: bba3db15dcc69f3⋯.png (65.31 KB, 1012x615, 1012:615, pol.PNG)

File: ae99bbecb84fc43⋯.jpg (172.35 KB, 1770x734, 885:367, politiscale.JPG)

>>41362

>>41352

>>41379

>>41386

>>41390

You are but little babies, watch this.


 No.47808

File: 7ac0ff20473dfc1⋯.png (316.73 KB, 750x1334, 375:667, BC3A725E-7DFA-48B5-A70E-8D….png)

>>47755

You are like a little reformist watch this


 No.48414

File: 335fba400b8f79e⋯.png (92.66 KB, 800x650, 16:13, Libcom.png)

Rate me.


 No.48416

File: a865998d768364e⋯.png (218.57 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, Anfem.png)

>>45832

I got anarcha-feminism apparently.


 No.48423

File: 71c34ffb83adb2f⋯.png (51.66 KB, 800x650, 16:13, canvas.png)

Who knew that markets are the opposite of "equality"? I just want to reap the fruits of my own labour, such idealogical liberal garbage this is.

This doesn't even differentiate if you think cooperatives aren't socialist or whether you think the state should own the means of production or whether mutualism is preferable. Not even one question on capital, not even one on unearned income or so much as capital gains tax. But there's several variations of questions on minor shit like drug policy (at least 2 on this, victimless crimes and should drugs be decriminalised), same sex marriage, two questions on religion where one answer infers the other.

It's pretty much "HURR you no like corporations or want high tax? You communist nao", I also like that the liberal who made this is so spooked that he puts the topic of the "diplomatic" axis as of equal weight to the economic one.


 No.48480

File: 9a4d5fb4a92db72⋯.jpg (68.31 KB, 540x675, 4:5, IMG_20180330_124215_930.jpg)


 No.48672

File: ff37c447914188e⋯.jpg (69.44 KB, 492x751, 492:751, _20180411_163747.JPG)

File: 96e263b0fd6160d⋯.jpg (84.19 KB, 706x451, 706:451, _20180412_095523.JPG)

Oh well…


 No.48713

File: c9554ff6f57f169⋯.png (202.55 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, canvas.png)

>>48423

This one is much more nuanced but could still do with some improvement.


 No.48768

File: 203502ac5e6b0c6⋯.png (206.4 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, ohmylovemylove.png)


 No.48826

File: 439f60324c7d9cb⋯.png (216.27 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, ecoboy.png)


 No.48833

File: 7555a4e2f78aaeb⋯.png (380.87 KB, 1080x1920, 9:16, Screenshot_20180412-223155.png)

Catchy tagline


 No.48929

File: dbeb5ad116097d7⋯.jpg (78.2 KB, 677x646, 677:646, _20180413_121451.JPG)

>>41352

Great. I went from being just a left nationalist to ML by spending my time here instead of trolling on halfchan. God damn it.


 No.48930

>>48929

What test is this?


 No.48932

>>48930

Vote 1. You can download the app for free. Pretty neat test I have to admit. Also comes with a gallery of quotes and basic informations on ideologies.


 No.48945

File: dcd4385bac9e2f6⋯.jpg (102.18 KB, 800x577, 800:577, res.jpg)


 No.49032

File: 80116c795ed9eab⋯.png (232.57 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, Politiscales.png)


 No.49271

>>48929

>SPD

>Social Democrat

>Grüne

>Green Social Democrat

Whoever made this has no idea about German politics.


 No.49350

File: 486c031fa9af1b9⋯.png (100 KB, 446x564, 223:282, politiscales.png)

Now that's what I call podracing


 No.49364

File: 8084deb6df638d2⋯.png (212.29 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, 657989-543543.png)

>tfw you are a hardcore centrist


 No.49424

>>49364

Did you think that you were a right "anarchist?"


 No.49467

>>49364

>el peor comunismo

dios mio


 No.49473

File: 656bd37bb3f9575⋯.png (130.43 KB, 1911x314, 1911:314, wut.png)

File: 45e56aa40b6d4f8⋯.png (183.53 KB, 1362x372, 227:62, comp.png)

bit old


 No.49573

>>49473

Question about that test.

Would a guild consisting of cooperatives and self-employed workers be public sector or private sector?


 No.49600

File: 0b4e6c0d411334b⋯.jpg (104 KB, 692x995, 692:995, IMG_20180316_202353.jpg)

>>45749

>>45832

>>48416

Anarcha-Rad-Fem-Com Gang


 No.49604

File: edaf6ad06c4cc2c⋯.png (12.61 KB, 400x400, 1:1, 1515482970702.png)

>>49271

Würde mich überraschen wenn die Macher dieses Tests Deutsche wären.

But at least it gives (you) fairly accurate results.


 No.49755

>>49364

Centrists are just edgy liberals. Get over it capitalist pig.


 No.49763

File: 15af8a8653f9bd1⋯.jpg (85.26 KB, 720x812, 180:203, _20180416_153107.JPG)


 No.49766

File: 0a5fb8233f2988f⋯.png (37.79 KB, 460x341, 460:341, ce8bb29f851d1fec41b0f858c5….png)


 No.49775

>>49573

>Would a guild consisting of cooperatives and self-employed workers be public sector or private sector?

in this test at least, labour unions run the planet and cooperatives are worker owned.

Sadly this test is very limited, like going beyond a exchange value to allocated resources directly, abolish private property …etc


 No.49797

>>49573

Private sector…why did you even need to ask this? You do know that cooperatives exist right now in capitalist economies, they're not theoretical and they aren't socialist before you ask as they operate using capitalist principles.

BRB I'm going to my local food coop and stay beyond opening hours because it's public property.

>>49766

I'm pretty sure Marx hypothesised that private property would no longer be sustainable ie be rendered obsolete in the face of capitalist economic upheaval and that welfare merely prolonged the capitalist system.


 No.49811

File: 9e7f6ff5755529c⋯.jpg (165.21 KB, 800x1108, 200:277, nn.jpg)

Is this feminazi?


 No.49833

>>49811

>Is this feminazi?

>anarcho-monarchy-feminism

No that's just autism.


 No.49835

>>49600

Gb2 leftypol you faggot


 No.49842

>>49833

Hm, I thought the anarchy was just some in-between-phase?


 No.49867

>>41494

Just go back to tumblr


 No.49882

File: 235b1422d871084⋯.png (215.97 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, lll.png)


 No.49888

>>44371

God is omnipotent yet he could not create a world where we are free AND free from sin? So much for omnipotence. He created man as a weak creature full of cravings for temptation and with urges to commit actions: how is this freedom? If it was he would have created us cold and omniscentt, ready to commit godly sins, not blind sins of lust and vengeance, which are the opposite of freedom. What would you prefer, a friend who stops you from doing a wrong act, or a judge that observes you, knows what he could do but does nothing and later punishes you? Behind the facade of "freedom" as always lies the implicit message of abandonment and subjugation: god could "save" us in any moment from fear, suffering, death, ignorance and even sin, but he decides to not do so, and what greater sin than to torture and abandon those who are weaker than you? It's pure evil


 No.49894

File: b8f8a1afbc230e5⋯.jpg (204.21 KB, 640x1029, 640:1029, b8f8a1afbc230e53ed3985111e….jpg)


 No.50031

>>49882

Impressive

>>49894

fake n' gay


 No.51657

File: 5ee74676f12b736⋯.png (237.73 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, PolitiScales.png)

yo waddup


 No.51854

File: 0b4ed44d3a4c07d⋯.png (295.58 KB, 790x1167, 790:1167, 2018-04-23 19.57.24.png)

this is very accurate, tbh


 No.51912

File: 0bc19636e76b42d⋯.png (246.88 KB, 2553x794, 2553:794, Desktop 4-23-2018 3-35-43 ….png)


 No.51925

>>49894

>things exist, therefore ideas don't even have RELATIVE meaning to humans

I was a teenager too once. Shit thread btw.


 No.51944

File: 776ca3f9771813b⋯.png (328.76 KB, 800x620, 40:31, moncom.png)

File: 0dfe795c9312703⋯.png (93.07 KB, 2000x1200, 5:3, moncomflag.png)

File: 3c364572461c923⋯.jpg (45.55 KB, 604x453, 4:3, moncom.jpg)

File: 7df93ae4b6144f0⋯.png (82.73 KB, 5000x3333, 5000:3333, COMMON.png)

>>48672

MONCOM GANG


 No.52329

File: 1c0c470e27f1d27⋯.png (258.86 KB, 1440x1610, 144:161, Screenshot_20180424-145538….png)

File: 5bd01b165a330b7⋯.png (450.3 KB, 1029x1473, 343:491, Screenshot_20180424-144709….png)

Statists get out

REEEEEE


 No.53180

File: d8b4336ae342798⋯.png (17.27 KB, 480x400, 6:5, PC.png)

File: 1b1b71bd205f6ec⋯.jpg (86.77 KB, 1110x471, 370:157, Auto.JPG)

File: 017fdf7d7f9402c⋯.jpg (117.44 KB, 1299x600, 433:200, Nat.JPG)


 No.53185

File: 9c4c7eb47bfa794⋯.png (17.16 KB, 480x400, 6:5, 41244.png)


 No.53186

File: 172079c7d76eeac⋯.png (227.92 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, politiscales2.png)

How'd I do


 No.53203

>>53186

>>41386

You two need to find a room and do… Stuff


 No.53215

File: 90cf5414ae82065⋯.png (133.07 KB, 1587x893, 1587:893, 8values.PNG)

Don't know what to make of it tbh.


 No.53276


 No.53277

>SPD

>Greens

>economically left

What? Whoever made this has no idea about German politics.


 No.53347

File: f5e6594a151cd6e⋯.png (204.53 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, Politics.png)

File: ac6cfcd1eaf971d⋯.png (2.83 KB, 320x320, 1:1, Avatar.png)

File: dfbe78a832cd4a8⋯.jpg (21.93 KB, 600x600, 1:1, 1ce.jpg)

This not inconvenience my personal avatar picture, knowing i made before the did the test(, was the same colour choice for my flag

>Makes you think, doesn't.


 No.53546

>>53277

Nobody making these tests is German. And not even all Germans realize this.


 No.57693

File: 4b81b753ffe91ae⋯.png (165.35 KB, 720x1280, 9:16, Screenshot_20180514-105559.png)

File: 28bf0611baecfea⋯.png (107.36 KB, 720x1280, 9:16, Screenshot_20180514-115157.png)

File: 422a5b52bb379c8⋯.png (69.04 KB, 720x1280, 9:16, Screenshot_20180514-114119.png)

File: d95ba91f0236004⋯.png (124.61 KB, 720x1280, 9:16, Screenshot_20180514-114319.png)

political compass is trash


 No.57717

>>51912

what the fuck is that test


 No.57719


 No.57782

File: a36fee4eba060b0⋯.png (58.22 KB, 819x660, 273:220, Screenshot_2.png)

I consider myself an Anarcho-Communist, or is this just 8Values being a run-of-the-mill political test?


 No.57784

File: a36fee4eba060b0⋯.png (58.22 KB, 819x660, 273:220, Screenshot_2.png)

I consider myself an Anarcho-Communist, But 8Values says differently for some reason


 No.58080

File: 9a167aa82f3c86d⋯.png (117.94 KB, 597x487, 597:487, IMG_20180507_045705.png)

>>57784

I've got nearly the exact same score and the percent difference between ancom and libertarian socialism are tiny


 No.58099

>>57784

Libertarian socialism is just another name for anarchism.


 No.58330

File: a5a982b7ce2c45e⋯.png (218.15 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, wewuzbigbrained.png)

actually surprised at the amount of conservatism I got since I wasn't that conservative in my responses, at least I think so


 No.58390

File: e5ddd80efa45f81⋯.png (232.34 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, Nice.png)

>>41352

Yeah I'm pretty cool if I do say so myself


 No.58471

http://www.abtirsi.com/quiz2.php

This is my favorite one


 No.58604

File: efa138bb3e3cab5⋯.png (335.07 KB, 2476x892, 619:223, FCBD38A8-4519-4F11-9D14-F2….png)

Whoever even dares to have any essentialism or the categories “family” or “motherland” please reconsider your positions as materialists. Communism is materialist, which leaves no space for “human nature”.


 No.59440

File: fae4c6ce77e8ecd⋯.png (29.49 KB, 1473x281, 1473:281, 5 pol.PNG)


 No.62495

File: c6b37ee0b2a8fdf⋯.png (5.7 KB, 512x256, 2:1, canvas.png)

File: b8665dbad64cc8d⋯.png (181.08 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, canvass.png)

File: 071ff4a606305d2⋯.png (17.32 KB, 480x400, 6:5, chart2018.png)

File: 8e99d6127f0b63a⋯.png (54.07 KB, 800x650, 16:13, canvas2018.png)


 No.62497

>>51912

that test gave me autism


 No.62929

File: 2d2ac7bf688f282⋯.png (67.57 KB, 915x962, 915:962, DvZnX23.png)

File: 5a717878c1e2309⋯.png (61.13 KB, 800x650, 16:13, g0C7BEn.png)

For Catalunya!


 No.62931

>>45749

>the perfect person doesn't exist


 No.68023

File: 69ebabf6b58ea15⋯.png (177.7 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, my scale.png)


 No.68027

File: a08f185c82648fa⋯.png (111.3 KB, 800x650, 16:13, 8values results.png)

Always doing God's work.


 No.68029

File: cf7f8407ab88811⋯.png (61.13 KB, 800x650, 16:13, bwahp.png)

>>68023

here's this thing.


 No.68041

File: 96e5a9c961651ac⋯.png (292.13 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, ClipboardImage.png)

I'm an Anarchist not a Libertarian REEEEEE


 No.68059

>>68041

Looks like you're a "classical liberal" actually. :^^^^)


 No.68060

File: ee784bba7cf9835⋯.png (3.67 MB, 1600x900, 16:9, ClipboardImage.png)

>>58604

>materialism has no place for behavior being affected by material factors as opposed to ideas people made up


 No.68080

File: 0d461de78fd9156⋯.png (53.3 KB, 800x650, 16:13, canvas.png)


 No.68085

You are all of the retard political orientation


 No.68145

File: d9cc18c6bd6700e⋯.jpg (422.13 KB, 1875x925, 75:37, untitled.jpg)


 No.68167

>>68085

Btfo with FACTS and LOGIC

How will gommies ever recover?


 No.68173

File: 06be17dd6760727⋯.png (217.92 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, politiscales (1) (18-1-201….png)

File: 65d137392b16ed6⋯.png (227.79 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, politiscales (3) (23-06-20….png)

File: 6fe4afbfe242f9f⋯.png (219.64 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, politiscales (2) (8-3-2018….png)

It's pretty amazing how lurking on 8chan and starting to read leftist theory turned me from a default left-liberal into a commie over the course of a few months


 No.68181

>>41386

So I am the same poster and decided to show the progress after 3 years.


 No.68183

File: 1e83a96be5541c5⋯.png (190.7 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, HELP.png)


 No.68185

>>68183

GANG GANG GANG


 No.68186

>>68185

YOU MOVE AWAY FROM ME I AM NOT A NAZBOL


 No.68192

File: a2a2de33b71ddb8⋯.jpg (64.31 KB, 480x360, 4:3, seize the means of my dick.jpg)

>>68186

>leftist economics mixed with rightist social views

>not a nazbol

you're simply in denial


 No.68200

>>68192

Oh you poor thing… You see, I… Don't hate black people.

But nah for real, I lean a lot towards national-syndicalism or Catholic Integralism.


 No.68202

>>68200

>I lean a lot towards national-syndicalism or Catholic Integralism.

What does this even mean outside of the internet?


 No.68203

>>68202

A lot of catholic stuff and protests


 No.68204

>>68203

Yeah but how would the society actually function?


 No.68208

>>68204

Groups of unions cooperating between eachother, with a good focus on localism yet all would stay united in a congress that would directly be connected with the King and discuss with him various topics from distribution/allocation of materials and matters of districts.


 No.68210

>>68208

to matters of the districts*


 No.68211

>>68203

At least that's something, I just can't help but think of twitter accounts with stalinist-anarcho-objectivist-enviromentalist in their bio tweeting stuff like "genderfluid-peronnist-islamic-communism to save a posadist future for white children".


 No.68213

>>68211

Oh and a lot of cooperation between unions, I attend quite a good amount of monarchist events too.

Oh and some voluntary work here and there, shit is really bad here in SE.


 No.68216

>>68213

>I attend quite a good amount of monarchist events too.

I suppose they attract a very different crowd than the monarchist events of the European countries that actually have monarchies.


 No.68225

>>68216

Our monarchy is very different from most around the north of Europe, we have a tendency to fall into radicalisms


 No.68230

>>68225

I thought that with SE, you meant the south eastern united states. If not, then where?


 No.68235

>>68230

South Europe


 No.68238

>>68235

Isn't monarchism in Spain more like an embodiment for the right-wing side of the schism of the Spanish civil war?


 No.68242

>>68238

I am from Portugal but the case for Spain was completley different. Franco betrayed the ideas of Primo and was just a proto-neo-liberal.


 No.68243

>>68242

But the true "monarchist" side is also completely different, they advocate for localism and christian austerity with national-syndicalism.


 No.68248

>>68242

>Franco betrayed the ideas

>just a proto-neo-liberal

You sound like a trostkyite; the only way to stay true and loyal is in the dignity of defeat. This comes back to my earlier remark about certain ideologies having no meaning outside of the internet, in which the internet can be replaced with books, treatises, events or any other theoretical spheres. When taken outside of those, they become just another instance of the current name for the current state of things.

>>68243

Sounds like the cargo-cult politics typical of 1920's-30's fascism.


 No.68252

>>68248

The falange already had it working perfectly and had quite a good amount of plans to make it after the war.

The problem was that Franco being just a General did not have that much knowledge in economics (as opposed to someone like Salazar) so he surrounded himself with Technocrats.

>>68248

The Carlists yes. But with more Catholicism.


 No.68253

>>68248

After the execution of Franco during his arrest (That mind you, even Durruti was against) there was a lack of a "leader" , Franco occupied that spot due to the image that he built around him as the "defender of true Falangism" but he did not try to apply any of the economical ideas of Primo.


 No.68333

>>68208

What is the function of the King? Why is he needed?

It seems to me that the purpose of a council/assembly democracy is defeated by concentrating a disproportional amount of power in one person's hands.

>>68213

I'm genuinely curious what a monarchist events looks like. Are those lectures or something? Are they attended by many people?


 No.68338

File: 4bc62ddef62dec4⋯.png (53.56 KB, 800x650, 16:13, 8values.png)

File: 97d2482859c76bf⋯.png (208.99 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, Politiscales.png)

File: 258c24dacc69661⋯.png (17.24 KB, 480x400, 6:5, Political Compass.png)


 No.68346

>>68338

damn bro


 No.68347

>>68333

For one he is a safeguard against foreign interests, he is the figure of the state in international matters and he has what we once had called the "revisited power", in short if there is something he does not agree with he can veto it.

>>68333

It is like the Action Française and yeah quite a good amount, most of them young and some old guys.


 No.68350

>>68347

How is one man a "safeguard"? How can he control foreign attacks better than a fully democratic state could? He can't single-handedly change the world economy.

Why is a king needed as spokesperson, why not just let some ambassadors carry out this function?

What gives him the right to veto decisions? Why would he be more important or wise than everyone else?

Who even is this king? Would the monarchy be hereditary? Would he be chosen every couple years by the people?

What if he abuses his power and acts against public interests?

>>68347

>It is like the Action Française and yeah quite a good amount, most of them young and some old guys.

Out of curiosity, do they know about your economical ideas? Are there other monarchists you know who simultaneously hold syndicalist/leftist sympathies?


 No.68354

File: c48d1fc540a6f88⋯.jpg (289.11 KB, 1323x846, 147:94, bandeiras-vila-vicosa-22.jpg)

>>68350

Said man is a safeguard because that monarch is a symbol of a stoicist personality, one that cares about his people and not foreign interests, the true monarch.

We use the king as a spokesperson (on things like meeting other world leaders) due to the tradition but we will of course have ambassadors.

The right is given to him by the constitution, written by our population. Afterall he is a symbol of our tradition.

Yes the king would be hereditary.

Tyrannicide is defended by the liturgy of the catholic church, yet of course for that to happen a lot else would also need to happen.

>>68350

Yeah you do have the good bunch of syndicalists, you also have a ton of distributists and guild advocates.


 No.68367

>>68346

Damn good or damn bad?


 No.68379

File: a5e3c8dc6c6604c⋯.jpg (47.97 KB, 460x662, 230:331, 1527868111309.jpg)

>>68354

>that monarch is a symbol of a stoicist personality, one that cares about his people and not foreign interests, the true monarch.

1) How will you guarantee anything whatsoever about the monarch's personality if the monarchy is hereditary?

2) Why would any foreign state be restrained from attacking or embargoing your country just because it is led by someone who cares for the country? The history of US interventions motivated by economic interests demonstrates that they couldn't care less about the ideology of the invaded country's leadership or how democratic they are.

>The right is given to him by the constitution, written by our population.

I suppose it's actually written by a small group. Or would the installment of the monarchy require that the majority of the population democratically agrees upon it?

>Tyrannicide is defended by the liturgy of the catholic church, yet of course for that to happen a lot else would also need to happen.

Well yeah, a monarch can do a lot of things wrong that aren't bad enough to incite an actual revolution or tyrannicide. I don't see why you wouldn't aim for a system that is less likely to devolve into tyranny in the first place.


 No.68383

>>68379

1) The monarch's personality is heavily set by it's position, they have various traces that are common between eachother since above all since they are born they are taught how to rule.

2)I am talking about things like trying to corrupt the monarch with foreign capital and such, it is understandable if such a parasite like the US tries to invade our country but we should work towards nuclear deterrence and an autarky to stop that from actually happening.

>I suppose it's actually written by a small group. Or would the installment of the monarchy require that the majority of the population democratically agrees upon it?

Quasi-Democratically, we are not going to run for elections if that is what you are thinking, we do not wish to play into the liberal game, when we gather a big enough force with the support of the population it would go like the coup of 1926.

>Well yeah, a monarch can do a lot of things wrong that aren't bad enough to incite an actual revolution or tyrannicide. I don't see why you wouldn't aim for a system that is less likely to devolve into tyranny in the first place.

Again this touches that aspect that I adressed in the first point, it is less likely in my view for a monarch to do said bad things because unlike a liberal politician he knows how to rule while staying in contact with the population.


 No.68403

File: d94d611ee2bbc00⋯.png (83.93 KB, 800x600, 4:3, 8 value nazi result.png)

>>41352

Am I doing this right?


 No.68414

File: c5603e4b4225feb⋯.png (17.17 KB, 480x400, 6:5, chart.png)


 No.68418

File: b551118652c0560⋯.png (111.16 KB, 800x650, 16:13, download (1).png)

>>68414

fugg, is this bad?


 No.68427

File: 81dd8be8e0ef5e1⋯.png (48.26 KB, 800x600, 4:3, 8values.png)


 No.68428

File: f7d295accfa5584⋯.png (192.58 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, canvas.png)

Reformist/hyper-pacifist here. I can't stand the thought of violence. I don't know or care if that makes me a pussy or whatever.


 No.68433

>>68428

You're fine in my book.

Allende approves


 No.68463

>>68418

>Egoist is fucking spooked

like pottery


 No.68669

>>68463

I don't think that is very far away from individualist anarchism though.


 No.68703

File: bf181c17c80e50d⋯.png (203.73 KB, 800x650, 16:13, LeSpooks.png)

>>68669

This is the only correct answer my property.


 No.68788

>>68145

What is this?


 No.69886

File: 1df204240bd8d85⋯.jpg (44.32 KB, 576x542, 288:271, Capture 3.JPG)

File: 9475aef390e357b⋯.jpg (72.2 KB, 728x589, 728:589, Capture 4.JPG)

I think there might be a bit of a discrepancy between these two tests.


 No.69947

File: 3dfd9b84b998904⋯.jpg (8.46 KB, 300x300, 1:1, really makes you get.jpg)

What would a political orientation test designed by /leftpol/ look like?


 No.69950

File: fee3d85531898f9⋯.jpg (56.81 KB, 1531x379, 1531:379, egoist anarchism.jpg)

>>68703

thats literally the only one


 No.69951

>>69947

like me.


 No.69954

File: bb0d7a160b6e7b3⋯.png (213.87 KB, 389x537, 389:537, cb37724c8e915eb88b3c248401….png)

people who do political test be like…


 No.69975

File: e4dd01c5e8d6989⋯.jpg (25.17 KB, 400x300, 4:3, 00.jpg)

>>69954

Heh

Yeah, tests are for beginners. New people looking for alternatives to the right-left-liberal circus.


 No.70087

File: 12be4efa7351662⋯.png (135.11 KB, 499x747, 499:747, Screenshot_20180701-015918.png)

>>69975

I did it because filling out arbitrary information about myself is fun. Even if its all a spook.


 No.70149

File: cdad95e475e6f26⋯.png (63.64 KB, 800x650, 16:13, 8values.png)

File: 7c4c812d18cae74⋯.png (185.18 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, politiscales.png)


 No.70600

>>70149

>transhumanism

>48% ecology

How?


 No.70828

File: 10bc17cdcf03e3a⋯.jpg (37.54 KB, 500x505, 100:101, 1436797133813.jpg)

>>70600

While I want the environment repurposed for human needs in the long term, I don't think we really know what we're doing at the moment and rash megaprojects or ignoring ecological crises may well lead to catastrophe that could in fact set back progress by decades. I'm not happy watching the capitalists clearcut, strip-mine, overexploit and torch the only garden we have at the present just to produce more junk we felt no need to buy before Porky spent a billion dollars on cutting-edge brainwashing research.

Also, I personally like green spaces and wild animals and I'm bullish on alternative energy sources (including nuclear) so allow me this ideological incoherence.


 No.70881

>>70600

Advanced technology doesn't neccisarily entailusing primitive energy sources. I'm betting on nuclear fusion in the near future, but if not there are other sources of clean energy.


 No.71011

>>70828

You can control the environment without destroying biodiversity and all that. Our problem is nobody messing with the environment gives a fuck and are interested in narrow goals and so they clearcut forests and shit.


 No.71069

File: d6f1e3e54c7b789⋯.jpg (137.88 KB, 1198x972, 599:486, 8values.JPG)

Thought the questions were a little weird, but can't disagree with the result


 No.71410

File: 85efb6d8f8d3a22⋯.jpg (69.07 KB, 674x1024, 337:512, politiscales.jpg)


 No.71904

File: 53971b88a83f79e⋯.png (382.56 KB, 908x1318, 454:659, Capture d’écran 2018-07-07….png)


 No.72390

I need to read more before I make one


 No.72398

File: 8a10448bd1133dc⋯.png (113.14 KB, 800x650, 16:13, download.png)


 No.73470

File: a276e7956ccd318⋯.png (157.59 KB, 682x554, 341:277, 8values2.png)

File: 112999a79fa1340⋯.png (150.86 KB, 513x657, 57:73, politiscales.png)


 No.73471

File: 2b8cbca4837a36d⋯.png (65.53 KB, 520x463, 520:463, Screen Shot 2018-07-16 at ….png)

>>73470

and this


 No.73478

File: 71d3a50e116e7ce⋯.png (57.21 KB, 800x650, 16:13, 8val.png)

>>41352

Pretty close to being accurate.


 No.73542

File: a9658d661b117c9⋯.png (81.83 KB, 327x597, 109:199, Screen Shot 2018-07-16 at ….png)

>>73470

>>73471

This too… lol based on the questions, I was thinking my anarchist credentials were in jeopardy since I thought I was being so moderate


 No.73712

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 No.73721

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pretty accurate


 No.73742

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>tfw when you get a fucking ugly flag




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