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Post right-wingers that you wouldn't want to go to the gulag.

>inb4 none


John Kasich's 2016 public persona.

Later Glenn Beck.

Any non-Fox news conservative.

pre- 2015 Alex Jones


Rand Paul because we need to keep him as the last museum specimen of right-libertarians. Children can feed him crackers in his cage.


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Alex Jones before he sold out to the CIA


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Kinda agree on both Rand's. They both have their hearths in right places when it comes to not do drone strikes, but they are batshit insane on other issues.


H.L. Mencken



I think you mean both Pauls? Rand Paul is a corporate shill. Ron Paul is actually a lolbertarian who would say shit like "corporatism is a corruption of capitalism."



Why the fuck is bachelet there



Why is Hoxha with non-meme tier philosophers?


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>Later Glenn Beck.

He mutated into Leon Trotsky at some point.


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Ales Jones, his show hasn’t harmed us, but instead been very entertaining.


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Boyd Rice


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Didn't we bumplock this thread last time for functioning as a /pol/ thread in disguise?

Why do you keep making this thread?





I will forever defend Ron Paul.

You can't say he didn't have his heart in the right place on any issue. His policies simply wouldn't work.

He wanted you to have the ability to sue if corporations polluted your land, Trump just took over the EPA and gave you no legal recourse to prevent corporations from destroying you.

All of Paul's ideas stemmed from the idea of making your life better, never from a "fuck you I got mine" idea, call it naive, call it wrong, sure but I can't get mad at the purity of his intentions.



>a /pol/ thread in disguise

How so? It just seems like a fun concept for a thread. I also don't think it got bumplocked last time.

Either way I can assure you I've never unironically posted on /pol/


Zappa was a righty?



>You can't say he didn't have his heart in the right place on any issue.

I sure can when he supported all those Latin American interventions in the '70s and '80s. If it's to fight the Left, he has no problem whatsoever with military operations.


What counts as a rightie?



Someone not leftist but not liberal either.



Critical Support For Rand Paul Against Trumpist Imperialism!



So, large part of the non-class-conscious working class?



Not that I don't like his music but Boyd is begging for gulag.


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Do classical liberal theorists count as rightists? I probably wouldn’t count them as such since their thinking let directly to socialism. If that’s the case then I’ll say Tucker Carlson because nothing beats that look of enraged disbelief he has whenever interviewing somebody.



Claasical liberals (such as the founding fathers) were far-left.


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This but unironically.



They can be bourgeois too.



>I think you mean both Pauls?

You are right, I meant both Pauls. I support that they as close to pacifists as any american politics are, and somewhat against wars and maintaining basses and all that imperialistic crap. I do agree that they are batshit insane corporate lovers, thought.


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it wasn't ironic in the first place, comrade.


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This. Ron Paul was based. Only a liberal or neocon could hate on him. He was brutally anti imperialist.


People grow and change.



lolno, only Thomas Paine could be considered that. Parenti will set you straight here:




Following his failure to get the GOP nomination, and subsequent retirement from Congress in January 2013, Paul wanted to get a website off the ground. In March 2013 he tried to buy RonPaul.com: a site run since 2008 by his supporters. Paul had once owned the site but lost it in August 2012 after failing to pay renewal fees. The site's current owners soon after acquired the rights to own the site.

In response to his request to buy the site, the owners very nicely offered to give Paul RonPaul.org, another domain name they own, absolutely free. As for RonPaul.com, they offered to give him that for $250,000. Instead, he refused both offers and went to the World Intellectual Property Organization (a United Nations agency) to lodge an intellectual property complaint in an attempt to control both without paying a dime.

That's right, Ron Paul went to the United Nations: a global organization that he has constantly said America should renounce and leave. Paul isn't so hateful of it after all or he wouldn't use it to get involved in a matter that he apparently has no faith in the free market to handle.

The WIPO dismissed the complaint. In a hilarious twist, they also found Paul guilty of "reverse domain name hijacking" for ignoring the very reasonable offers the site owners gave him. Furthermore, Paul's attempts to lie about the site being used to benefit from his name and likeness were shot down. It was apparent the domain owners were obviously using the site to help spread news and information about Paul as opposed to exploiting him for personal gain as he claimed.

Following this damaging legal haymaker, Paul abandoned the attempt to seize the site and instead launched a website with a different domain name: something he should have considered doing in the first place. Despite destroying practically all his credibility in claiming to support a free market, Ron still uses his site as a soapbox to preach about the wonders of a free market based on compromise, volunteerism, and non-aggression.

As to be expected, many of his supporters still attempt to justify his underhanded behavior. Sadly, no amount of deflection or justification can disprove that this incident shows Paul lacks any principles and consistency where his ideal free market is concerned. This indisputably makes him no less respectable or honorable than many other American politicians in office who he accuses of using the same tactics he did to get what they want.

In a textbook case of denial, the owners of RonPaul.com still refuse to accept Paul could treat them like crap.



ron paul is a racist reactionary that hijacked opposition to the wars on terror and drugs to push his stupid beliefs



And he didn't vote for Queen Hillary and didn't buy rainbow doritos.




the only reason ron paul can appear consistent as opposed to other politicians is that he can run it without any sincere belief that he'll ever be actually tested on any of his beliefs.

the few times he was tested he failed just as much as anyone else.



when the best thing you can say about someone is that they didn't vote for hilary, maybe it's time to rethink your hero worship of them




The far left of its time were the Jacobins, Hébertists, enragés, sans-culottes, Babeuf, Sylvain Maréchal… definitely not the US Founding Fathers.



A practical conservative. Although more in the libertarian vain. If he were still alive, he would mock the SJWs and possibly Trump. Although he would probably not criticize Trump because that would add fuel to the fire.


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Southern bourgies all day everyday



World MoP library and soviet restorative justice (occupied).


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Some Lolberts are cool


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Don't know how right wing he is anymore. He used to call himself a libertarian and invite mostly right wing grifters on his podcast but he seems to have become a little more skeptical of them lately (like when he pushed back against Dave Rubin's braindead libertarian talking points recently for example). Either way I wouldn't gulag him, he's very likeable (you just need to avoid listening to him talk about politics).


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it is a spooky mystery



I'd say they need to have explicitly rightist views of some kind, instead of being default rightist/liberal but mostly apolitical



>In a 1991 interview, Zappa reported that he was a registered Democrat but added "that might not last long—I'm going to shred that".[104] Describing his political views, Zappa categorized himself as a "practical conservative".[nb 13] He favored limited government and low taxes; he also stated that he approved of national defense, social security, and other federal programs, but only if recipients of such programs are willing and able to pay for them.[1]:315–16, 323–24; 329–30 He favored capitalism, entrepreneurship, and independent business, stating that musicians could make more from owning their own businesses than from collecting royalties.[105] He opposed communism, stating, "A system that doesn't allow ownership … has—to put it mildly—a fatal design flaw."[1]:315–16, 323–24; 329–30



Beefheart > Zappa (tho I like him too)

Prove me wrong protip you can't



Even if Hot Rats is IMO a better album than anything I've heard from Beefheart, I'll never stop appreciating him for the lines





Fuck off Nazi



>like when he pushed back against Dave Rubin's braindead libertarian talking points recently for example

Heh, Rubin was whining about that in the chat on the Jimmy Dore live stream yesterday.



>Rubin was whining about that in the chat on the Jimmy Dore live stream yesterday.

What did he say? Was he mad at Joe?



Funny that he would be such a capitalism sycophant after all those years dealing with records industry scumbags.



He thought Rogan treated him unfairly compared to a recent second Jimmy Dore interview.



lmao what a fucking baby



It was a pretty brief comment and I don't remember him saying anything else beyond that. Pretty interesting that Rubin even tunes in to Jimmy live streams. Maybe he's looking for news stories to poach for his own channel.



Honestly I wasn't surprised when I found out about it, not surprisijng that a guy that touts about moralism in music (muh we are only in it for the money!) can't understand materialism and is ultimately cucked by capital. Good music nonetheless, but I can see his thickness



Bill Hicks, that beautiful lib-cap bastard.

Frank Miller, he's just too funny.

And my dad, obviously.


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I'm very conflicted on Roger Scruton. He might be the most important living philosopher on aesthetics, and I'm very fond of his writings on the subject. That said, I'm very critical of his political views - he often compares immigration to an "invasion" that will "weaken culture," which is all hideous and dangerous language.


Kai murros


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>might be the most important living philosopher on aesthetics

imagine writing this


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Scruton is an absolute brainlet.

He literally became an anti-communist because he was mad students in the France May 68 protests were setting cars on fire.





I liked Scruton's writings on aesthetics, but if you can recommend a better contemporary philosopher on aesthetics, I'm interested.




So never?


Rogan has a good heart, but he's hilariously impressionable.


As far as his politics go he comes off as a stereotypical grouchy old man.



this so much, although he's not really right-wing just third position who believes in the basic principle of might is right. also one of my favorite musicians and inspirations



lol, no, Kasich is a tool of the elite. I would know because he's the governor of my state.



Notice I said his "public persona", not the man himself. I heard he was a heartless bastard like Trump but put on a mask for the presidency.



Nigger wat

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