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File: 5e1732a9e784681⋯.jpg (441.98 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, TYT in their element.jpg)

 No.2867118[Reply]

Is TYT at all organic? Pre-2010s they seemed to be an organic liberal commentary outlet and since accepted the shekels.

In 2016 I remember TYT accepted a contract with Univision to produce a show for 12 weeks, ending just after 2016 election.

Univision was an outlet affiliated with Clinton campaign

>Inside the Univision-Clinton network

https://archive.fo/2rh3m

Strangely, their criticism of Clinton died down after this and their show unceremoniously came to an end just after the election.

So what's TYT's end game? just pretend to be organic liberal outlet until a big donor comes along to sway their audience?

Are they farming out their audience to the highest bidder?

 No.2867121

Do they deny the armenian genocide?


 No.2867124

>>2867121

Whats that?


 No.2867161

Same thread was made over at /pol/


 No.2867169

>>2867161

that was my bad, leftypol said it was unable ot create thread so I went over to Pol, then a few minutes later the thread turned up


 No.2867223

>>2867118

>Strangely, their criticism of Clinton died down after this and their show unceremoniously came to an end just after the election.

How is that strange? She isn't important anymore.




File: 22276e52fae25d8⋯.jpg (56.35 KB, 400x667, 400:667, nicolai_yezhov_by_shoko_k_….jpg)

 No.2866956[Reply]

NKorea says it tested new weapon, wants Pompeo out of talks

North Korea said Thursday that it had test-fired a new type of “tactical guided weapon,” its first such test in nearly half a year, and demanded that Washington remove Secretary of State Mike Pompeo from nuclear negotiations.

https://www.apnews.com/2ff1e53cfc9d42a7821c7f4e6a740642

Trump Administration Announces Measures Against Cuba, Venezuela And Nicaragua

The Trump administration has announced new sanctions and penalties against Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua aimed at both ending the rule of Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro and weakening Cuba's communist regime.

https://www.npr.org/2019/04/18/714552854/trump-administration-announces-measures-against-cuba-venezuela-and-nicaragua

German Nazi camp guard, 92, charged as accessory to thousands of murders

German prosecutors have charged a 92-year-old former concentration camp guard with being an accessory to murder, in what will be one of the last ever cases against Nazi-era war crimes.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-nazi-trial/german-nazi-camp-guard-92-charged-as-accessory-to-thousands-of-murders-idUSKCN1RU16F

US bitcoin trader may face death penalty in Thailand over 'sea home'

An American bitcoin entrepreneur could be facing the death penalty after Thailand’s navy accused him of violating the country’s sovereignty by building a “sea home’’ off the coast of Phuket.

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 No.2867044

OP/ED

Can Antitrust Law Rein in Facebook’s Data-Mining Profit Machine?

Facebook is always in the news, but not always for edifying reasons. Recently, the Trump administration sued Facebook for targeting housing ads to people in a discriminatory manner. In 2018, a great deal of coverage focused on how the political consulting firm Cambridge Analytica misappropriated thousands of Facebook data points on more than 200 million users and may have used that data in efforts to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Meanwhile, publishing executives continue to gripe about Facebook practices that have brought much of their industry to death’s door. As bad news piles up, some politicians and critics have begun to call for a breakup of big tech companies. But thus far, a step-by-step explanation of how its business model works and the relevant economic arguments have largely been missing.My paper, “The Antitrust Case Against Facebook,” details the quintessential market power fact-patterns that standard economics and competition law have made familiar. Facebook’s ability to inflict harm today on both consumers and news publishers rests heavily, though not exclusively, on a single practice that Facebook engages in: surveillance.

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2019/04/can-antitrust-law-rein-in-facebooks-data-mining-profit-machine.html

The Iran Floods and US Sanctions: 10 Million at Risk, But Who Cares?

You have certainly not heard much about this in the West. And it didn’t get a fraction of the media attention (and none of the hundreds of millions of Euro pledges by the perversely rich) that the Notre Dame fire did.However, if disastrous floods had hit 28 out of 31 provinces and affected 10 million people in some European country or in the US, I believe you would have heard about it from Day One.But now it is Iran. Only the Iranians.The situation is disastrous but not so much because thousands have died. Rather, because floods of this magnitude are likely to have terrible long-term consequences for agricultural and other pPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


 No.2867070

thanks news anon


 No.2867183

>>2866956

based news reporter


 No.2867188

>>2866956

Based news anon!

One of the last few things that makes this board worthwhile.


 No.2867191

File: 58855b2e2f5a08e⋯.png (2.18 MB, 1966x1968, 983:984, disappointed but not surpr….png)

>>2866956

>US wins WTO ruling

>over China

relly maykes me donk




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 No.2865852[Reply]

compared to the rest of South Asia and other former European colonies Pakistan has had almost substantial communist movements

 No.2866066

Pakistan never really had that significant of a communist movement, and what did exist was crushed by the state. It's a deeply reactionary and backwards society that is divided along ethnic, sectarian and linguistic lines and where the productive forces are massive underdeveloped.

I fucking hate it here.


 No.2867186

>>2866066

you sound like a typical upper class burger

>It's a deeply reactionary and backwards society that is divided along ethnic, sectarian and linguistic lines and where the productive forces are massive underdeveloped.

you just defined every diverse country in this world

yes people are divided but its like everywhere else in the world. Pakistan is a diverse country and people are separated into groups. you should go to labour trade union rally on may day in lahore. there are people from different backgrounds, they put aside their differences and protest for common cause.

the remaining "left" is the problem in Pakistan, most of them are upper class radlibs larping as far lefties. and i really hate this.




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 No.2867098[Reply]

Hello comrades, I'm the first generation immigrant of Albanian Parents who were sternly against Hoxha's regime stating that they had to wait in line for food, however they said that he was great in terms of educating the masses and building roads and schools, but he was too repressive.

What is your opinion?

Hoxha greatest achievements:

>An electrification campaign was begun in 1960 and the entire nation was expected to have electricity by 1985. Instead, it achieved this on 25 October 1970, making it the first nation with complete electrification in the world.

>In 1960 we had one doctor per every 3,360 inhabitants, in 1978 we had one doctor per every 687 inhabitants

> the average life expectancy in our country has risen, from about 38 years in 1938 to 69 years by 1978.

> Illiteracy, which was 90–95% in rural areas in 1939 went down to 30% by 1950 and by 1985 it was equal to that of a Western country.

>Malaria, the most widespread disease. was successfully fought through advances in health care, the use of DDT, and through the draining of swamplands. From 1965 to 1985, no cases of malaria were reported, whereas previously Albania had the greatest number of infected patients in Europe.

>In 1978, 15.1 times as many females attended eight-year schools as had done so in 1938 and 175.7 times as many females attended secondary schools. By 1978, 101.9 times as many women attended higher schools as in 1957.

Like fair enough he had killed up to 25,000 political opponents, didn't have free trials for people, disallowed freedom of speech against the government and had forced labour camps and all the rest of it.

What else did he fail doing though? The Bunkers was a bit autismo but i guess i could see why an isolationist Albania would want some form of defence against chemical weapons.

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 No.2867113

>muh body count

I'm honestly getting beyond tired of this borderline moralism. Motherfuckers die by the thousands daily across the 1st world due to not getting medical treatment or housing, and people have the nerve to bitch about a meager 25,000 political opponents across fucking decades.

Fuck that and fuck you.


 No.2867115

>>2867113

There's a big possibility a substantial amount of them might have been innocent.


 No.2867119

File: 3afecb1651ef484⋯.jpg (303.15 KB, 425x793, 425:793, enver hoxha on cuba and an….jpg)

File: f2973564776b7c7⋯.png (661.1 KB, 2164x960, 541:240, enver hoxha on dprk.png)

File: fb6e45ab918d08b⋯.webm (1.1 MB, 480x360, 4:3, DPRK marx lenin portraits.webm)

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>>2867111

There is another quote about how not having enough Marx and Lenin portraits makes a country revisionist.

Also worth noting that Hoxhaist rebels in Ethiopia were used by the imperialists to destroy the Marxist-Leninist government of Mengistu Haile Mariam. They took over and immediately became liberals.


 No.2867129

File: 9d585d1b4714018⋯.png (55.45 KB, 612x445, 612:445, getfiscal.png)


 No.2867130

File: ec32e738a4c553f⋯.jpg (73.07 KB, 153x240, 51:80, 0c2b1e649b34856c3f9245cfd6….jpg)

Hoxha made Albania a modern sovereign country. Before socialism, Albania had been occupied for 99% of its history, and when WWII came it had been turned into a colony for Italian fascism. Hoxha led the fight against fascism and defeated them by 1944, and then was elected democratically and led the construction of socialism. I don't agree with everything he did, especially in his last decade, but just reading Hoxha's meme quotes and dismissing him as a lunatic is retarded.




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 No.2865709[Reply]

How do I help my friend? He's admittedly a Marxist but unironically believes:

>DPRK is a "fascist regime"

>Iraq War was justified because Saddam was a "fascist".

>Stalin killed 999999999 trillion people

>Christopher Hitchens was the smartest person of all time

>Trump is literally a Russian KGB agent

>CNN is a progressive news outlet

Is there any hope for him? He generally has the right intuitive understanding of things like class relations.

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 No.2866680

>>2866677

also not mentionning empty US promises is the reason kurds got gassed in the first place


 No.2866691

just show him unruhe videos


 No.2866768

>>2865709

he probably still believes that amerikkan propaganda accurately depicts history and believes in the simplified "utopian" version that amerikkkan propaganda depicts

I know it was similar with me, I also first started thinking, that socialism being utopian in praxis, isn't a very good argument against it and then went on to get more educated on it

just encourage and help him get educated


 No.2866986

>>2866507

Perfect. Plan is for us to drink a few beers and watch this on TV. Parenti is just the best so hopefully it should make a difference.


 No.2867112

File: 2efb6968f5bcde8⋯.webm (9.49 MB, 640x360, 16:9, 2015 cuban delegation vis….webm)

>>2866403

>sees through the false capitalist propaganda against Cuba but not the lies against the DPRK, even when Cuba itself sees through these lies

Dumb, but unfortunately a very common error.

>sees through the false capitalist propaganda against Mao but not the lies against Stalin

the fuck




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 No.2845865[Reply]

What turned you to leftist politics? Pic related for me, I thought all leftists were soy boy sjw dyel nerds but nick proves that you can be a leftist and not a cuck

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 No.2866532

>>2866520

Not true at all.


 No.2866537

Basically it's the bullshit people spread trying to discredit it. People don't get that disingenuous unless they're either purposefully trying to hide something or ideologically incapable of understanding its truth.


 No.2866779

File: 6538a4441fe967a⋯.jpg (126.66 KB, 1200x675, 16:9, DUZmF-tVoAArabV.jpg)

>>2866495

>expressly deny true things

>college sexual assault crisis

the college sexual assault "crisis" is a complete myth, it's already been debunked numerous times. that "1 in 5" statistic is an establishment myth parroted by activists and obama to distract from the real issues plaguing our country, so they can instead direct our attention to things that don't exist, like the college sexual assault "crisis." it's a pretty shifty trick, actually.

also studies have been done proving that the rate of rape/sexual assault in many colleges is actually even LOWER in the colleges than in the surrounding cities, meaning that this "crisis" ignores the reality that women are actually even SAFER on college campuses.

in conclusion: those sargon commenters were right and the college sexual assault "crisis" is a complete and utter fraud


 No.2866950

>>2866779

>literally no sources

get back to the youtube comments section dipshit


 No.2866968

File: ca3c59c5ff6b9e3⋯.gif (1.93 MB, 390x220, 39:22, tumblr_okyg3uQICA1qj6sk2o1….gif)

>>2866779

I've more or less checked out of these gender wars entirely because I'm gay and whole thing just seems so byzantine to me – it's a problem for the hets to solve I suppose. And I don't know anything about the statistics, although anecdotally some of the college girls I hung around with had to deal with some major grade-A creeps. One of the creeps, a grad student, developed a very bad reputation as a sex pest and was drummed out of his department as a result. He corned me in a bar once to go on a spiel about how girls don't want "nice guys." At the same time, I think the girls out there are a lot more steel-minded and tougher than often assumed.




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 No.2866799[Reply]

Look at this retard. She's genuinely everything that you thought was a stereotype of SJWs. These people *actually* exist, and they are what normal people think leftists are.

https://twitter.com/apihtawikosisan

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 No.2866832

Looking at the colossal rift of difference between Ms Aeiou here and someone like David Harvey or Richard Wolff, it boggles the mind how some still think to this day that it's possible to conflate radlibs and marxists


 No.2866897

File: e862a9190cadaae⋯.png (302.23 KB, 503x810, 503:810, justthetip.png)

>>2866799

Yeah and, I know a dude who claims to be transgender, autistic, Muslim, and asexual and is literally the person who complains about pussyhats being pink.

The left is more than these people, something is not the worse aspects of it.


 No.2866905

>>2866897

>actually bumping this bait

Anon…


 No.2866974

It's so frustrating because odds are, if you are a leftist, you're going to be in the same social milieu and so they seem like the audience you have to convert rather than proletarian workers.


 No.2869923

>>2866799

she goes to gulag. *kill all sjws*




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 No.2795714[Reply]

Trump recognizes US-backed head of Venezuela’s opposition Juan Guaido as country’s interim president

https://www.rt.com/news/449533-trump-recognizes-venezuela-opposition/

US President Donald Trump has recognized Venezuela's opposition leader Juan Guaido as interim president in a provocative move against the elected government of Nicolas Maduro.

"Today, I am officially recognizing the President of the Venezuelan National Assembly, Juan Guaido, as the Interim President of Venezuela," Trump said in statement.

He added he would use "the full weight of United States economic and diplomatic power to press for the restoration of Venezuelan democracy" and encouraged other governments in the Western Hemisphere to also recognize Guaido.

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 No.2864471

Pentagon/CIA push Venezuela regime-change propaganda in video games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72v7PWJUyxY


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 No.2865024

File: de18ddff407ef5b⋯.jpg (34.73 KB, 568x740, 142:185, car face.jpg)

>>2864471

Is this supposed to be news? I thought everyone knew COD was neocon propaganda aside from /pol/yps that think not racist = left wing. The lumpen pandering is genuinely hilarious at points, like how they used a still-living person as one of the antagonists in BO2.


 No.2866875

crossposting

I don't think this has been translated yet, but it seems The Intercept BR got ahold of internal IADB documents detailing their plans for post-Maduro Venezuela. It boils down to, of course, privatizing every fucking thing in sight, especially oil. A whopping 48+ billion dollars worth of "investments", such as loans with which porkies can buy everything off. Ye olde free money. China refused entry to Guaidó's representative to a porky mega-event in Changdu, one Ricardo Hausmann, an economist graduated in America (of course) and a Chicago school cunt. Also was once a finance minister in the pre-Chávez days.

https://theintercept.com/2019/04/18/bid-bilhoes-dolares-venezuela-maduro/

It also led me to these lovely quotes:

<Then Trump brought up Venezuela: “That’s the country we should be going to war with,” Trump said, according to McCabe’s recounting. “They have all that oil and they’re right on our back door.”

<McCabe expanded on this during a Tuesday night interview with MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell: “The president’s remarks to the room were along the lines of ‘I don’t understand why we’re not looking at Venezuela. Why are we not at war with Venezuela?’”

Remember when the media derided "no blood for oil" protests? "Capitalism bears within it war as a sleeping cloud bears the storm".




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 No.2860923[Reply]

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 No.2864235

>>2861531

Bad for us.


 No.2864340

>warmongering zionist cuckold aka BERNIE stays completely silent on this issue

of fucking course


 No.2866108

File: 536ff7d4b96c6ad⋯.jpg (77.4 KB, 852x480, 71:40, U-qOqI2KAX3tJPPN.jpg)

'Traitor Moreno': Moreno regime's police clash with pro-Assange protesters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4aVT7fzJGw

>Pro-Assange protesters clash with cops in Ecuador, calling President Moreno ‘traitor’

https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1118411505765163010


 No.2866112

>>2866108

BASED


 No.2866828

[RADIO] Imprisonment of Assange Seeks to “Kill Journalism”

On today's episode of Loud & Clear, Brian Becker and Walter Smolarek (sitting in for John Kiriakou) are joined by Lee Stranahan, co-host of Radio Sputnik’s Fault Lines who traveled to the UK to cover Julian Assange’s arrest.

https://sputniknews.com/radio_loud_and_clear/201904161074163989-assange-journalism-arrest/




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 No.2864515[Reply]

Is this a psyop that is somehow gonna be used to quell the Yellow Vests like that shooting a few months ago probably was or is it just preservationists fucking up? I want to not get cucked by my paranoia again but I mean, it is really weird Macron was gonna give his national address today and instead this happens

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 No.2866568

>>2866549

>Fucking burger flags hanging outside of a cathedral

Don't let anyone tell your burgers do not literally see their flags, capital, the market, the constitution, etc. as holy things. God is a burger and he likes shopping at Wal-Mart.


 No.2866795

>>2865675

As always his lack of actual knowledge makes him look like an idiot… too bad few people know actual knowledge and worship this guy. I once asked a MAGA-supporter if they knew who Shapiro was, and he talked about how he was doing good upholding liberty and christian values, and when I pointed out that he was Jewish, the dude didn't believe me until I showed him.

The worst part about his tweet is that the beauty and profundity of Notre-Dame does NOT require the understanding of christianity or the philosophy, in fact, usually that makes it worse because you stop looking at a work of art and start looking at a depiction of politics. I prefer approaching it like a mythology - forget the politics, what's interesting is the story it tells on its own, with the interpretation varying sometimes as you think about it or look at it another way.


 No.2866803

File: ef0818bf6123397⋯.jpg (17.56 KB, 480x265, 96:53, ef0.jpg)

>>2865675

>>2866795

All the dumb shit he tweets is just pandering to his army of MAGA chuds, doesn't matter if he is inconsistent or self-contradictory.


 No.2866821

>>2866408

PJW is like every alt-right speaker that spreads buzzwords, misinformation, and hatred against Muslims. Then they all wonder why Christchurch happened, and they all wonder why they're being blamed for it.

"Ok now let's discuss how it was actually a COMMUNIST that shot up the Mosque even though everyone is calling him a Nazi and I'm totally not a Nazi for taking offense to that"

Fuck those people, and fuck PJW for trying to make yet another incident to muh muslimz. I want an uprising to happen in whatever fucking country that bastard lives in so they can put his head on a fucking spike.




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 No.2866058[Reply]

Thin layer of the UK population earn more than £150,000 per year

There are only 321,000 people in the UK earning more than £150,000 a year.Data from Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs (HMRC) by area shows that around 123,000 of the high-income earners, nearly 40 percent, live within the London area. Topping the list is the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea (RBKC), with another borough, Westminster, in second place.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/04/17/ineq-a17.html

Iran parliament brands US troops in Middle East as terrorist

Iran’s parliament has overwhelmingly approved a bill labelling US forces in the Middle East as terrorist, a day after Washington’s terrorism label for Iran’s Revolutionary Guard formally took effect.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/16/iran-parliament-terrorist-us-troops-middle-east

French MEP Asks EU Council for Position on Lula's Situation

Emmanuel Maurel seeks to break the European Parliament's silence on the persecution against former President Lula Da Silva.The French Member of the European Parliament (MEP) Emmanuel Maurel asked the Council of the European Union for a written position on the political and judicial persecution which led Lula Da Silva to prison.

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/French-MEP-Asks-EU-Council-for-Position-on-Lulas-Situation-20190417-0033.html

Protests Calling For Climate Action Disrupt London For 3rd Day

Protesters demanding government action on climate change disrupted traffic and public transit around London on Wednesday, the third day of climate demonstrations in tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.2866629

File: 894220179cf45bb⋯.png (209.28 KB, 463x434, 463:434, bezos.png)

>>2866105

>The retail apocalypse has claimed 6,000 US stores in 2019 so far, more than the number that shut down in all of 2018

It's feeding.


 No.2866647

>>2866149

"Terrorist" has lost all meaning.


 No.2866654

>>2866647

This was a reaction to the US branding the Iran Revolutionary guard as terrorists.


 No.2866679

>>2866654

I know, and Iran is not wrong in doing so. But I was just commenting that word really doesn't mean anything other than "combatants we think are evil and don't represent a state" I guess.


 No.2866800

File: 45c1b6881aa014d⋯.jpg (198.2 KB, 450x700, 9:14, contra 2.jpg)

>>2866216

this is your brain on maoism




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 No.2864626[Reply]

Excuse the low effort question, but are there any documentaries/books/podcasts/texts which refute the idea that capitalism has brought about unparalleled prosperity and that "things have never been as good as they are today"?

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 No.2864985

>>2864984

damn wordfilter, replace the "kkk" with a "c" to access the article


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 No.2866596

>>2864741

completely false, pure ideology. best part of feudalism youre a lord, or even a successful artisan under a paternal lord, youre much better off than a sweat factory slave or an african miner or child soldier


 No.2866598

>>2864739

read a great article on al Jazeera about the poverty definition by un and how its manipulated to lower it to make it seem capitalism get ppl out of poverty when the reverse actually happen.


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 No.2845233[Reply]

Which Linux distribution does leftypol use? Some of the obvious advantages of Linux over the commercial alternatives are

- higher security

- faster, more customizable

- free and open source

- community based

I myself prefer Debian-based distros, so that I may apt-get purge kulak softwares.

Also, shoutout to >>>/gnussr/

>inb4 commodity fetishism

Linux is not a commodity.

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 No.2866593

>>2865153

are you a devuan boi? void? how do I escape the systemDong botnet?


 No.2866604

>>2866593

The easiest way would be to install MX Linux, it's a debian based distro which is systemd free and uses sysvinit (well actually, it comes with systemd installed but disabled).

But there's also devuan, Gentoo, void, slackware and the list could go on…


 No.2866607

>>2866604

slackware is useless though


 No.2866695

>>2862748

>>2862742

What's the point of a specific Debian repository just for supporting an alternative init?

Debian is still maintaining sysvinit (using it right now) and I don't have to use any of the systemd/dbus crap.

https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/sysvinit


 No.2866699

KDE Neon.




File: f2fb8eedbe3fb33⋯.png (147.76 KB, 733x641, 733:641, 1.PNG)

 No.2866590[Reply]

Does anyone know what Bordiga meant by this?

What are examples of "false proletarian unity" and how did Marx and Lenin combat these?

 No.2866616

Unioinism, menshevism comes to mind.




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 No.2863145[Reply]

Given that Communism is basically the logical outgrowth of Capitalism, wouldn't it be the most logical choice to be a full on AnCap and have Capitalism consume everything with it free of any hindrances? I mean, Capitalism is what will destroy all nations and races and wipe out everything so that in the end there are only classes that people view themselves as and not White or Black, American or Iranian, those with the Means of Production and those without.

Why want Leninism or anything like that instead of letting Capitalism consume everything and get rid of Morality and other Spooks that will hinder Proles from taking the Means of Production.

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 No.2866478

>>2866476

>when /pol/ got too spicy for you

>Ignoring that 8/pol/ literally bans leftist posters still, even after the removal of the BO

wew

>Libertarians oppose force *and fraud*. Moving society towards economic freedom would require a regulatory crackdown that the terrorized aristocracy wouldn’t even tolerate, much less enforce.

So they're self-contradictory. You can't oppose fraud without force, its literally impossible.


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>>2866476

>Libertarians oppose force *and fraud*.

>He says while maintaining private private property

>he says while ignoring historical enclosure

I think your tard helmet fell off there, don't hurt yourself on your way back to >>>/liberty/


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>>2866466

>21st century state capitalism as a synthesis of the 20th century's dialectical struggle between the West and the Soviet model.

Bernie is that you?


 No.2866535

>>2863148

>Nick Land basically argues for this

Wrong.

>>Nick Land: I think the terminology of left and right, for anyone like you who is fascinated by the question of ideology, it’s completely indispensable. I totally see why people get dissatisfied with that language and say “We have to move beyond this” or “This terminology ceases to be useful” but I have a sense of its kind of extreme resilience. I don’t see us ever stopping talking about the left and the right. It’s always going to come back in, I call it the prime political dimension, there is a basic dimension with left and right polarities that everyone returns to, after their wanderings and complications. And all kinds of ideological currents themselves have a strategic interest in either muddying the water or trying to get people to rethink what they mean.

>>But in the end, people come back to this basic dimension of ideological possibility and I think it is the one that captures the accelerationist tendency most clearly. On the right end of that is the extreme laissez faire, Manchester liberal, anarcho-capitalism kind of commitment to the maximum deregulation of the technological and economic process. And on the opposite extreme is a set of constituencies that seek in various ways to — polemically, I would say words like “impede” and “obstruct” and “constrain” and whatever, but I realize that’s just my rightism on display. And there are other ways of saying that, to regulate it or control it or to humanize it, I wouldn’t try and do a sufficiently sophisticated ideological Turing test on myself to try and get that right you know?

>>But I don’t think there’s any real … It’s not really questionable, which of those impulses is in play and I think that it’s on that dimension that so-called left-accelerationism is left, I mean, it’s left because it is basically in a position of deep skepticism about the capitalist process. It’s accelerationist only insofar as it thinks there is some other — I would say magical — source of acceleration that is going to be located somewhere outside that basic motor of modernity. They gesture towards the fact that things will somehow still be accelerating when you Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


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>>2866535

You're right to point out that Nick Land is a right winger who doesn't think that accelerationism leads to communism (and for the record I don't think it automatically leads to such an end either), but holy fuck does he strawman the left hard in those comments.

>It’s accelerationist only insofar as it thinks there is some other — I would say magical — source of acceleration that is going to be located somewhere outside that basic motor of modernity. They gesture towards the fact that things will somehow still be accelerating when you just chuck the actual motor of acceleration in the scrap.

While little Nicky's criticism certainly applies to some "left accelerationists", I think he's kind of strawmanning left accelerationism as a whole. At the very least this criticism doesn't apply to the likes of Jehu, who acknowledges that accelerationism is a capitalist phenomenon and seeks to use it as a means to an end.




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