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Please, I'm begging you.



>Er han rett?

Nei, han er dansk.

Enig med det han sier om atomkraft, men når han argumenterer for at vi bør diskutere tvilsomme klimafiksingstiltak over høyst nødvendige samfunnsendringer framstår han som den håpløst desperate liberale kapitalismeforkjemperen han er.

Typen er bokstavelig talt ein liberal ungdomspolitiker og lobbyist. Ideologien hans forbyr han fra å se motsetninga mellom kapitalismens overproduksjon og klimakampen.


Tanker om Klassekampen? Er de kringle eller basert?





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/pol/fag who's trying to understand marxism here

If the end goal of communism is a stateless and moneyless society, then doesn't that make Stalin and ☭TANKIE☭s not real communists?

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I pierced your sister's buns



That's a stretch, when was the last time you called a burger with meat and lettuce on "buns"



I was thinking bound and gagged, but it could just be that this is an abstract sort of thing.



why are people even engaging this retard ? he want to debate marxism without knowing what its about, and demand to be spoonfed in order to spit the lunch back in your eye without even trying to taste it. he hasnt made a single coherent point in that thread except 'ur nuggers lol'. i know we love taking baits here, but its not even bait tier, just shitflinging



I would favor a system with fewer labor vouchers but where the basics of life are a given. There would be two kinds of stores , the first kind would be a no frills supermarket that issued everyone with a weekly ration of basic vegetables and bread and one or two serves of meat, as well as basic goods and all you would need to get this is a valid ID card, and the second type of store would sell more luxurious products that would need labor vouchers to buy.

This way there would be a basic social safety net with the first tier of basic rations and goods and the second paid tier would be an incentive to engage with society.

The safety net is a necessity to ensure civilian morale remains high by taking care of the disabled and sick, as well as the very young and the very old who can not work. Parasites who will not work are a whole other story and they should be reeducated and punished if they are found to be incorrigibly workshy.

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right wing on suicide watch

>President Trump said Friday that he will support a short-term spending bill to re-open the government, temporarily ending the partial government shutdown that has dragged on for more than a month – despite a day earlier saying Republicans would not “cave” on his demands for funding for a wall on the southern border.

>“I am very proud to announce we have reached a deal to end the shutdown and reopen the federal government,” he said to applause from gathered Cabinet members.

>He said the deal would keep the government open for three weeks until Feb. 15 and that a bill would go before the Senate immediately. He made reference to his previous threats to declare a national emergency, calling it a “very powerful weapon,” but saying he didn’t want to use it.

<The deal appeared to include no money for a wall or steel barrier, but he said he hoped negotiations would continue to come to an agreement on wall funding.


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Don't most immigrants come here legally?


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Holy shit this is the most retarded hot take I've ever seen yet. Yeah, like a hospital is just going to let an illegal leave without paying or without checking to see if they have insurance first lmfao.


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>The reason our medical industry is in trouble is because illegals create cost shifting.

This shit is boomer-tier nonsense. Citizens probably owe more money to ERs than non-citizens. Anyways it doesn't really matter since healthcare should be free for all who need it. This is kind of like how /pol/ often blames immigrants for housing costs. It's less of an argument and more like a desire, or need. Like they need for someone other than the bosses/landlords (i.e. their parents) to be at fault.


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>They go to the ER, get treated with about $10,000 of medical care, then disappear when the bill comes to get paid

When has that ever happened?



Ta…take that back…

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t. dolan dup state of union 2019


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>not realizing utopianism is merely socialism without a scientific basis in underdeveloped capitalist conditions

These men are forefunners of modern scientific socialism and their legacy shouldn’t be discarded



>plane lands


do burgers actually do this? wtf



t. useless idiot for Republicans



not as long as you remain clapping for joe


is this the /leftypol/ version of triangulation

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I've noticed that every time someone brings up this picture in normie internet today, the comments will be filled of people saying it's a hoax, photoshop, that it's not really him, etc. despite the fact that no historian disagrees that this is in fact a real photo of Stalin.

For real, this bothers me a lot because it reflects an utterly childish mindset. Anti-communists are such a pathetic bunch that they can't even admit a communist was good looking in their youth. For them, the world has to be as black and white as possible in every single aspect: historical communists weren't just evil, incompetent, joyless and tyrannical, they were also ugly.

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Are you implying he was ever ugly?


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Here is another picture from when he moved to Canada to start a band and got involved in hijinks and japery.


For them, the world has to be as black and white as possible in every single aspect


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>Soviets make art for morale and a celebration of their soldiers (obviously not real photographs)

<Some news source: De clever sovjets are making lies to lie to de people



I looked up the author of the article, and this shit makes sense, she's works for Radio Voice of Russia, the discount version of Radio Free Europe.



Starting a band with Zucc?

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Post how you think geopolitics will play out long-term this century. Here's my prediction for North America.

>Global economy collapses due to many bubbles, ecological collapse, etc.

>US and Canada balkanize

>without burger influence, the rest of the world prospers

>Canada splits by population area mostly, more or less maintains territorial boundaries even though the northern regions are not actually controlled any more

>Quebec and Ontario become independent (obviously)

>The northern reaches become uninhabitable except to the indigenous peoples



Becomes independent, but population starts collapsing due to dependence on men moving there for oil jobs. Mad Max situation.


The chill west coast becomes a democratic republic that legalizes drugs, gives reparations to natives, and safeguards the old growth forests. Market socialist mostly.


The Council of Billionaires rules over this minarchist, neofeudal dystopia. People near the borders flee for Mexico or Washington. In the major cities, gamers pilot drones to hunt down the homeless.

>Holy Roman Empire

This shit comes back, after the white reactionaries congregate in the former flyover states. It's just as shit as it always was, but now it's full of Applebees. Not actually a theocracy though, just reactionary.

>Holy Mormon Empire

White ethno-nationalism but, like, polite. Even more psychotic than Mormonism already is, they become a regular doomsday cult theocracy.


Petroleum companies fight a genocidal war against the indigenous peoples and set up a fascist state trying desperately to sell oil to somebody.

>Republic of Texas

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>muh water shortage

China's gonna get buttfucked by that too

the entire world is tbh


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Carthage will be destroyed!


>another cringy map thread

Oh boy


this is un holy, I love it


Norrh Korea becomes beacon of hope as they are cut off from tbe world so long they know how to surbive well without many resources (food, concrete, oil, bricks etc). Not reliant on fossil fuels and still have nuclear weapons to protect against invasion.

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what is your unironic opinion on Varg?



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The issue with people have with him killing Euronymous is that he arguably was the better musician not morality. I don't give a fuck about the churches though so yeah I agree with you there.



The "Golden One" made a VR to varg titled something like "WTF varg! [I don't quite remember] is my will and you question it?!"

Ever since he's been taking shots at the swede for being a fag and a fake pagan (according to varg) and his pro christian it views. He has beef with another pagan called Survive the Jive.

The YouTube Pagan drama scene, apparently everything has a niche.



>Burning the church is completely, 100% justified. Fuck your churches.

Reminder that the churches he targeted were important cultural-historical landmarks going back to the Middle Ages and that if a Muslim had burned them he would be the first to condemn it. It was also a completely impotent gesture in a highly liberal majority atheist society—he literally destroyed irreplaceable historical buildings just to own the libs. He believed (and still does) that communism and liberalism are descendants of an Abrahamic invasion that destroyed noble pagan values.

He’s literally a post-colonialist we wuz retard and doesn’t even realize it.




>catholicism IS paganism

You are so wrong, European pagans wouldn't worship a kike.

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If, hypothetically speaking, a civil war were to break out in the USA with a leftist pro-socialist/communist faction and a rightist faction, which members of the bourgeoisie do you think would betray their class interests by joining the communist side? There's always a few.

Give your reasons too.

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Would Hezbollah not turn on Bashar if it benefited what Iran, as it's politicians see as it's backyard they must turn?




Hezbollah's Iranian ties are changing and shrinking. A significant portion of aid now comes from Russia and co as a counterweight to US funded Jihadism, hence why Hezbollah is now displaying its self as a less sectarian and more western presentable organization than back when Iran was their sole benefactor.


Would Joe Rogan join the fascists or the commies? or would he be part of the liberal establishment trapped in the middle and join the pile of bodies?



I'm wagering he'll say something along the lines of "I don't like Fascism but Communism is worse".



>Their are socialists in Syria, it’s just that they aren’t “anti-imperalist” so this board doesn’t like them.

Yes they are. The way things are going the integration of the D.FNS into a renewed Syrian state seems quite likely. The Y.PG will join the Axis of Resistance.

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Were you ever embarrassed of being part of a left-wing organization? Maybe not embarrassed but like, left out? Like it's not for you?

I've been attending events and protests organized by a few organizations where I live because I want to join one of them and start doing something, but honestly it seems like everyone in those is always 20 and I just feel like the old weird guy being there.

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never been part of one but I would be if i was part of any first worldist orgs



I'm in our group by far the youngest member. All of my comrades are about 40-50 years older than me. At the beginning, it was quite weird. But as long as you focus on political stuff and theory, the age gap between us dissolves. There is nothing else what connects us, we are from completely different generations.

I would recommend you, to focus on the topics I've mentioned above. In the end, this is the reason why these people came together in the first place.



I think being the youngest is way better than feeling like the old dude tbh.


a great many people involved in political activism of all stripes are autists. YOu definitely won't be the weirdest



how big is the age difference?

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What is the consensus on here about him? Is there any consensus? Good or Bad?


He's fine when he's not being extremely incoherent.


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when he's incoherent is the only time he is fine. when you actually understand the shit he says, it's retarded.



There's already a thread about him.

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What socialists before Marx are worth reading/learning about?


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Not a socialist, but Feuerbach is pretty important for materialism. Gets overlooked when people are recommending Hegel and shit.



Was Proudhon really socialist? He did support free markets and Marx was very critical of him. Also I personally see Socialism and Anarchism as different so he wasn't really a socialist but that's just my view.


Proudhon definitely.

Also Blanqui.



He supported markets, but he also supported a total ban on absentee ownership, communal regulation boards, the Paris Commune, worker control over the MoP and politics, and effectively wanted to bring the market away from M-C-M, which is IMO retarded and a completely untenable way to achieve socialism. But I can't not call him a socialist solely on the basis of that.



There's no way that what Proudhon supported in markets could have looked at all like what a capitalist market looks like.

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U.S.-backed Syrian force launches 'final battle' against Islamic State

The U.S.-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) began an assault against the final Islamic State enclave in eastern Syria on Saturday, aiming to wipe out the last vestige of the jihadist group’s “caliphate” in the one big US military base in Syria’s area of operations.


Protester has hand RIPPED OFF during Yellow Vest march in Paris

The right hand of one of the Yellow Vest protesters has been blown off by a police grenade, according to an eyewitness, during Saturday's demonstrations in Paris.RT video agency Ruptly's footage from the scene shows clouds of smoke billowing around the street as protesters and police clash outside the grounds of the National Assembly.


UK scraps Brexit ferry deal with firm that has no ships

The British government has canceled a contract to ship goods to the country after it leaves the European Union with a company that turned out to have no boats and no experience running a ferry service.Authorities had been criticized for the 13.8 million pound ($18 million) deal with Seaborne Freight.


Morocco freezes involvement in Saudi led coalition in yemen

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>‘I got cheated. All of us got cheated’: Captured German Isis member says he regrets joining terror group

what the fuck did he expect?


Dem tells Venezuela’s Guaidó: ‘You don't get to authorize US military interventions’

Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.) on Saturday warned Venezuelan opposition leader and self-proclaimed interim president Juan Guaidó against any attempt to authorize U.S. military force to strengthen his claim to power.“Mr. Guaido, you can proclaim yourself leader of Venezuela but you don’t get to authorize US military interventions. Only the US Congress can do that. We will not,” Khanna tweeted.


Strike action in the US hits a 32-year high

The number of workers participating in strike action in the US during 2018 reached the highest level in 32 years, according to a Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) report issued Friday morning in Washington. The figures document the rise in the class struggle in the course of the year, spearheaded by public school teachers who rebelled against their unions and carried out statewide strikes in West Virginia, Oklahoma and Arizona.


Gun-seizure laws grow in popularity since Parkland shooting

In the year since the deadly mass shooting at a Florida high school, more and more states have passed laws making it easier to take guns away from people who may be suicidal or bent on violence against others, and courts are issuing an unprecedented number of seizure orders across the country.


‘Drones aren’t missiles, they are re-usable’: US disputes accusations of non-compliance with INF

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Nancy Pelosi, Which Side Are You On?

In whose interest should politics ultimately be conducted?Institutional liberalism has long attempted to elide straightforward binaries pitting ordinary people against elites. Instead it prefers to reject the premise that any meaningful divergence of interest ever separated them in the first place. For several generations of aspiring liberal politicians, the “Third Way” has represented not just a supposed middle path between the New Deal and Reaganism, but also between the competing demands of different factions within the Democratic coalition itself.


New York Times admission of Afghanistan fiasco provokes “human rights imperialist” backlash

An editorial published by the New York Times on February 4 titled “End the War in Afghanistan” has provoked a backlash from prominent supporters of the decades-long US “war on terrorism” and the fraud of “humanitarian intervention.”The Times editorial was a damning self-indictment by the US political establishment’s newspaper of record, which has supported every US act of military aggression, from the invasion of Afghanistan in October 2001, to the invasion of Iraq in March 2003 and the US wars for regime change in Libya and Syria beginning in 2011.The editorial presents the “war on terror” as an unmitigated fiasco, dating it from September 14, 2001, when “Congress wrote what would prove to be one of the largest blank checks in the country’s history,” i.e., the Authorization for Use of Military Force against Al Qaeda and its affiliates, which is still invoked to legitimize US interventions from Syria to Somalia, Yemen and, of course, Afghanistan.


Cory Booker Hates Public Schools

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News, fag you came back



came back?

I think you have me mixed with 2.0

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Reading pre-WW2 socialist history I'm astonished at how much the Left was different back then.

The Left used to have a culture. It wasn't just a declaration of principles, it was a lifestyle. Being a member of the SPD in its Marxist days was like being member of a whole separate country. People would fraternize with each other, attend events together, go to Socialist theaters, join study groups, be active in their party and its meetings. They had places to hang out and places to work at. They'd open their houses to political exiles of other Second International parties. People knew what was being debated and followed the inner-party conflicts. Before WW1 the SPD even had a school in Berlin. And obviously, after the split, Communist parties all over the globe attempted to re-create this type of communal structure, some with considerable success.

This is why Fascism has won, because we were never able to get back to that. Everywhere they destroyed a whole culture that had been half a century in the making, and since then "Socialist" refers to an atomized individual with vague left-wing preferences. But he's not initiated by a community. He doesn't learn the rites, the theory, the language, he's not taught how to organize or how to write propaganda. He's not "integrated" into something. His just reads a book or watches a video, decides Socialism makes sense, and his life carries on as it did before. They succeeded in destroying our means of cohesion and coordination, because they know Socialists isolated from each other can't do anything to fight the system.

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Canada had massive cuts in the 90s from the Liberal government and now the country is in horrible debt again, which will result in more massive cuts.



Trudeau is a "Liberal" which ever since Paul Martin has meant exactly what the /leftypol/ idea of it is.



They succeeded in destroying our means of cohesion and coordination, because they know Socialists isolated from each other can't do anything to fight the system.



Suburbia was nonexistent except among certain classes back then. Mass upscaling Suburbia was meant to geographically isolate working classes and increase the geographical barriers to mass resistance and organizing. Seriously how are you supposed to pressure your government by driving 20 minutes to your local walmart or stripmall to protest, followed by police teargas


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How is a capitalist dictatorship doing better in terms of housing than leftists countries?


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Was this propaganda?



Eh, I didn't watch it, but I've gleaned a basic idea about it from conversation - for a few weeks no-one would fucking shut up about it. My understanding is that it's a decent glimpse of the lives of the top 0.1% here - a fabulous existence completely separate from everyone else. Any specific details you want to discuss?

Fun fact: the novel's author defaulted on his military service obligations, and can be arrested if he ever turns up - while at the same time the government totally loves him for producing what amounts to Singapore's greatest tourism campaign ever.



so singapore's main setback is muh feudal times confucius spooks?



I wouldn't say it's the main one - that's largely a sop to conservative voters, no matter how paper-thin. They've been doubling down on social conservatism of late, due to a declining vote share. As an aside, there will be lavish celebrations of the bicenntenial of our bloody colonisation, because the last time they held a huge nostalgia party, they swept the elections.

Some major issues I can think of:

1. The party in government spent quite a while being very purge-happy - side effect: the current generation of politicians are mostly bootlicking yes-men incapable of original thought.(but who think very highly of themselves, having cruised through the upper class track of elite prep schools, military scholarships abroad, followed by running our military). The purges also had the effect of utterly cucking us in terms of moving leftward for at least another generation - communism and socialism are practically bogeymen, with the hammer and sickle being the only political symbol banned in Singapore.

2. The party crows about being non-ideological and pragmatic, with a fixation on growth, keeping the budget balanced, and spending as little as is humanly possible. Hence highly aggressive means-testing for any sort of welfare, gate-kept by an army of obstructive bureaucrats. I believe we have enough in surpluses and reserves to have fucking amazing welfare several times over, but any suggestion for more social spending is met with autistic screeching about how the whole island will explode and we'll be wageslaves in other countries.

3. Most of the key positions of government are held by a small handful of interlinked, old-money families. Suggesting any impropriety concerning this (or suggesting that the judiciary is anything but lily-white and utterly objective) will see you sued to Hell and back again. If you find some loophole to challenge or constrain them in any way, the Constitution will be duly amended.

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Keep meaning to make an effort post shilling Gemeindebauten on this board. I would unironically like to go across the Atlantic and visit Vienna just to study their housing system, the best in the world.

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There is no doubt in my mind that this was an imperialist missile

Meteor EXPLODES, shatters windows in western Cuba


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Allow Communism to spread on a planet naturally to show that they're ready to be integrated into the intergalactic council


this is simply allah smiling on his chosen people


>exploding meteors

I don't know much about meteors but that doesn't sound right.



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