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 No.2810663[Reply]

Finland’s SHOCKING basic income experiment results: People love to get paid for not working

https://www.rt.com/news/451028-finland-basic-income-results

A limited experiment with “basic income” in Finland failed to move the needle on unemployment or self-employment, but those who received no-strings-attached government money reported feeling happier, to the surprise of no one.

Beginning in 2017, some 2,000 recipients of unemployment benefits were given a monthly stipend of €560, tax-free and without any conditions, as part of an experiment in simplifying welfare and lowering unemployment.

A preliminary report published on Friday by the Finnish welfare administration Kela shows that the experiment’s effect on unemployment or self-employment was almost nonexistent. However, the recipients of the stipend reported feeling happier and less stressed than the control group, made up of those who received traditional unemployment and welfare benefits.

“The recipients of a basic income had less stress symptoms as well as less difficulties to concentrate and less health problems than the control group,” said Minna Ylikännö, lead researcher at Kela. “They were also more confident in their future and in their ability to influence societal issues.”

However, they were also “no better or worse than the control group at finding employment in the open [labor] market,” according to Ohto Kanninen, research coordinator at the Labour Institute for Economic Research.

Kela statistics showed the stipend recipients worked an average of half a day more than the control group, and actually earned €21 less on average from self-employment. However, 55 percent of them described their health as good or very good – compared to only 46 percent of the control group. Stress levels were also eight percentage points lower among the stipend recipients, in line with reports from the program’s early days.

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 No.2811211

>>2810663

It actually is a somewhat interesting result that there wasn't a significant decrease in how much people search for jobs, because this contradicts what millions are taught in introductory econ classes. People who teach these classes should get regular beatings until they make their teachings fit the data.

>>2810784

Sounds like a total clusterfuck.

>>2810924

Yes.

>>2811150

There are several ways: 1. Increase public-sector employment until everybody has a job. If that is done, there is no need for min-wage legislation in the private sector. 2. Force every firm to employ people proportional to some measure of firm size. But it isn't necessary to force them to directly employ the people; it would be enough to have some tax-and-subsidy system, so that firms finance jobs in proportion to their size (and firms creating more jobs than what their size dictates would get a subsidy).


 No.2811224

Does anybody here actually support UBI? It seems like every time I’ve seen it argued for, it’s usually either a libertarian, a Silicon Valley futurist type, or some kind of Bernie-adjacent/DSA socdem, and the argument is usually either moralizing or talking about automation.

In the moralizing case you get the left that will say “we need to decouple work from income, everybody deserves to live!” etc. and this just seems like utopian idealism. It almost always falls back on the imperative of this moralizing. The other case is maybe more based in some real prediction about future needs, automation CAUSING income to be decoupled from work by necessity because the work won’t exist anymore in the private sector. That is all fine and good, but I don’t see why a leftist would support this supposed state of affairs outright. You’re basically arguing at that point that it is necessary to perpetuate class society by making an entirely dependent class of people who live off of the minimum that the bourgioesie will give them and tolerate it indefinitely? And this in the midst of a society that has advanced so far that work is literally disappearing? It’s obvious why the right wing supports it, I don’t see why the left would except for socdems that are chronically trapped in thinking “it’s the best we can do, we have to compromise, maybe we can get the bourgies to give up their capital willingly in the future”.


 No.2811286

>>2811224

>Does anybody here actually support UBI?

I do but because I'm unemployed. Of course I would like a socialist revolution instead but while living in capitalism of course I would like to have money without having to work (or having to work less at least).


 No.2811291

>>2811224

redditors are the biggest supporters of UBI


 No.2811301

>>2811126

the audio noise is maddening




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 No.2809233[Reply]

"But.. But.. it's their hard-earned money! even if it will solve for world hunger, poverty, and our medical problems. It's still theft!!"

One must be a fucking idiot to think that bourgs' money is theirs. They stole it from their labor.

If you work on 15$/hour, save all your money, and work 24 hours a day, you would still have to work more than 300 fucking years to reach half of Jeff Bezos' wealth. He must be god if he earned all that through "hard work".

I hate it when leftists ignore conservative claims that "taking the rich's money is theft" and just say "But it would solve for this and this problem!"

No it isn't their own wealth at all. Always reply that it is stolen or taken from exploited labor so its not theirs in the first place to consider it "theft". Don't let them have this point.

Just wanted to rant after seeing many leftists ignore this point and subconsciously agreeing with neolibs over it.

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 No.2810628

>>2810071

>rich grug smart and work much

That's the exact opposite of what rich people are and do.

Correct to: rich grug not smartest but exploit lowly grug's labor so not have to work but still makes much stones


 No.2810679

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>>2810071

rich grug have village monopoly on stone supply

abolish village council


 No.2811250

>>2809233

Rich people deserved their hard-earned money because they did well enough to keep their slaves (us) working for them. But that doesn't mean we cannot rob all of their property, because why not? We will gain free time, affordable education and healthcare, dignity as true citizens, not wage slaves. Only moralfags would complain about this.

If capitalists can let us live a life of dignity, then we has no reason to oppose them. But history had repeatedly shown us that capitalist will never let us have that right, they will drain us to the last drop of blood, all of their promises will become lies. So take arms, comrades, to the final victory!


 No.2811253

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>>2811250

>because why not


 No.2811257

>>2811253

Well, want to commit suicide with everyone instead of just giving their hard-earn shekels to us? I've lost the last remaining of my respect to those smart and rational people now.




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 No.2797203[Reply]

Climate change is reaching the point of no return and we aren't going to stop using fossil fuels. Should we start using technologies like genetically modified corals and iron fertilization (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_fertilization) to mitigate the damage caused by climate change?

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 No.2803689

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>>2797455

IMO the Arab Spring was the first indication that we're living unsustainably. To the layman, the Arab Spring might seem to be a case of people getting sick of their corrupt government, but if you look into the root causes it essentially came down to uncontrolled population growth, which increased demand for food, in conjunction with an inability to increase food output due to climate change. This fundamental mechanic is going to be the cause of a lot of our future problems.

The thing is that these fundamentals are not obvious. People don't get angry at population growth and unsustainability, they look for scapegoats like their government and immigration and whatnot. The Egyptians rose up and replaced their government, but that didn't change the fundamentals, and therefore they're still stuck with the same old problems. And the population continues to increase at a frightening rate. To be frank, unless technology can somehow turn sand into soil, the Middle East is boned.

Germany went through a similar process, of course that was not caused by climate change but rather the conditions imposed after WW1, but the results were the same. Germans got squeezed too hard, they got pissed off and looked for someone to blame for their problems. And of course now we are starting to see it in places like the USA and France. Things are looking pretty grim honestly. When the general population is pissed off and unable to make a living, it's only a matter of time before violence occurs.


 No.2803707

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>>2803689

>food production already outpaces population

the problem is Capitalism not population growth.

in the case of population growth

>The demographic transition model demonstrates the changing nature of birth and death rates as related to the economic development of various countries. In the first phase, birth and death rates are both high; in the second phase, death rates fall, but birth rates remain high (leading to rapid growth); in the third phase, birth rates fall to a level similar to death rate and population growth begins to slow; in the fourth phase, birth rates and death rates are fairly stable and very low, which usually leads to slow population growth. Many demographers have in recent years argued for a fifth phase that reflects when death rates begin to outstrip birth rates again, leading to a negative “natural increase rate.” It could be argued that Italy and Japan (to take two examples) are currently in this speculated “fifth phase.”

for instance the birth rate in developing nations is starting to rapidly decline for instance in Egypt it when from 6.48 in 1960 to 3.26 in the 2016

>We make enough to feed 141% of people alive today. Meaning we make 313% as much food as we did back in 1960, when we made enough food to just feed about 100% of the population back then.

also global population will stagnated and decline on 9 billion.


 No.2803708

File: 8cc42235908cd1c⋯.jpg (106.41 KB, 1200x1097, 1200:1097, population growth.jpg)


 No.2811145

start using technologies like genetically modified corals and iron fertilization


 No.2811210

>>2803708

This is why we need family planning. The future is also going to have a fuckton of old people as well




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 No.2804973[Reply]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/feb/01/sacramento-rally-fbi-kkk-domestic-terrorism-california

>The FBI opened a “domestic terrorism” investigation into a civil rights group in California, labeling the activists “extremists” after they protested against neo-Nazis in 2016, new documents reveal.

>Federal authorities ran a surveillance operation on By Any Means Necessary (Bamn), spying on the leftist group’s movements in an inquiry that came after one of Bamn’s members was stabbed at the white supremacist rally, according to documents obtained by the Guardian. The FBI’s Bamn files reveal:

>The FBI investigated Bamn for potential “conspiracy” against the “rights” of the “Ku Klux Klan” and white supremacists.

>The FBI considered the KKK as victims and the leftist protesters as potential terror threats, and downplayed the threats of the Klan, writing: “The KKK consisted of members that some perceived to be supportive of a white supremacist agenda.”

>The FBI’s monitoring included in-person surveillance, and the agency cited Bamn’s advocacy against “rape and sexual assault” and “police brutality” as evidence in the terrorism inquiry.

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 No.2805904

>>2805212

somebody's agitating them. it's not organic

and they were clearly made an example of for getting too violent


 No.2811171

>>2805638

Shills will tell you that its a benign egalitarian/philanthropic organization where a bunch of old men get together and drink which is a bunch of bullshit that apprentice masons not part of the inner circle are told to say.


 No.2811203

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>>2804973

>“The KKK consisted of members that some perceived to be supportive of a white supremacist agenda.”


 No.2811204

>>2811203

My favorite smug anime girl




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 No.2801983[Reply]

Without exception EVERY video on youtube where the topic has at least 5 seconds of content about Venezuela there are destined to be floods of comments like these.

Is to stretch the imagination to think that these comments are bots, or paid trolls?

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 No.2802610

While yeah some can and probably are shills that Dosent mean that No Venezuelan people who don't like Maduro / PSUV exist

Like it or not Maduro and the PSUV have failed to improve standards of living and the quality of life of the Venezuelan people as much as Chavez did

Because of this stagnation obviously people will become disenchanted with goverment

<TLDR

yeah some are shills

But saying everyone's a shill is fucking /pol/ tier


 No.2802612

>>2802608

>I had to do my own research about communism

<watching Steven Crowder and r/the_donald is "research"

Sad!

>PragerU

To be honest, they are the bottom of the barrel. Even some right-wingers and conservatives call them out on their bullshit. Several PragerU videos have mostly ridiculing comments like the ones named "Who is Dennis Prager?" that tries to build a personality cult around Prager or the one where he argues that when there is no God, murder isn't wrong. There is also one where they argue we should build railguns for Israel (I'm not kidding) and right-wingers call them out for being Zionist shills in the comments.

Sometimes though you surprisingly meet normies being pretty lit about capitalism and socialism. While socialism has been propagated as a bogeyman, it also has become more of a subject of public debate which caused people to find out more about it. There are plenty of videos about the Cold War where people in the comments, not commies, average users, call out the content creator for presenting an extremely one-sided view of the conflict. Another positive example would be the feature-length documentary from a Marxist-Leninist called Prolekult about imperialism and capitalism ("History is Marching") that is seemingly watched by normies looking at the comments, and within that documentary the USSR is somewhat defended and portrayed positively, and people don't mind it and see it as an "eyeopener".

Marxism can be, even with all its jargon, incredibly convincing because it offers and analysis most other schools lack. It's pretty unique and holistic. The NPCs who go on about muh gorillions are not interested in changing their mind anyway, you you present them mountains of evidence and they still call you a totalitarian genocide denier or whatever, but people who haven't made their mind up should be out target.

I've also noticed on several social media platforms that when you openly present a communist line, people are genuinely curiouPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


 No.2805989

>it's another Youtube comments are bad thread


 No.2811169

>>2802013

mostly because admitting that the current system is a scam


 No.2811180

>>2802612

i liked the one where prageru brought on a priest to defend nukes




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 No.2803494[Reply]

Title is pretty self explanatory, occasionally online I’ll encounter someone who claims that they live, have lived, or know someone who’s lived in a country that is or was deemed socialist, nowadays it’s usually people claiming to be from Venezuela (even though they aren’t socialist), people claiming to know people from Cuba and the USSR, how do I combat these types of anecdotes especially when dealing with people describing things like family members being executed or being sent to labor camps?

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 No.2803968

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>>2803734

This is expected. There are two types of people with anti-communist anecdotes. First are edgy high-school boys which are making stuff up because of overdosing on ideology. No point in arguing there. Second are people which can be either shut up very easily with questions like

>,,If socialism was so in favor of freeloaders, how big were unemployment benefits during socialist regime?"

Or they are spewing shit like

>"The stores were full of bread, canned fruits and butter, but NO tropical fruits, muh gommies, litteraly holodomor."


 No.2803981

>>2803494

"Please provide evidence"

This works especially well when people start spouting off with the holodomor narrative.


 No.2804943

>>2803734

Post it anom


 No.2811164

>>2803672

Also demand evidence, there are loads of liars when it comes to former communist countries, and active liars now regarding Venezuela.




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 No.2805051[Reply]

That’s rich! Millionaire Macron says he’d be a Yellow Vest for a higher salary

Protesters in France finally have the sympathies of multi-millionaire Emmanuel Macron. The leader nicknamed “President of the Rich” says he could be a Yellow Vest too, if it means getting paid more.On Thursday, Macron, a man who reportedly earned millions as an investment banker and has recently been making televised statements to the poorest citizens from rooms dripping with gold.

https://www.rt.com/news/450303-macron-i-am-yellow-vest/

‘It smells dirty’: scandals loom over Bolsonaro after first month in office

Pietro Sambugaro wept with joy when the far-right firebrand Jair Bolsonaro was confirmed as president of the world’s fourth-largest democracy. A month into Bolsonaro’s reign, he remains on cloud nine.“The mood is of immeasurable satisfaction,” the diehard 28-year-old bolsonarista gushed this week.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/01/it-smells-dirty-scandals-loom-over-bolsonaro-after-first-month-in-office

Forty years since revolution, Iran taunts 'declining' America

Forty years after its revolution, Iran has no fear of a “declining” America, a senior cleric said on Friday at the start of official commemorations of the uprising that made the country a permanent enemy of the United States.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-revolution-anniversary-cleric/forty-years-since-revolution-iran-taunts-declining-america-idUSKCN1PQ4MQ

Footage shows police pointing assault rifles at child detainees in Australia

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 No.2805160

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>>2805140

They do more than that.


 No.2805188

>>2805116

China is Socialost by its own admission

It's only claim is that current economy is "Primary stage Socialism" which is a socialist economy still somewhat or majorly reliant off of a Market sector (See: Vietnam Laos Cuba etc)

>>2805091

>>2805083

A foreign troop / Milita presence in ones nation (Completely outnumbered by domestic forces) does not prevent it from being socialistic


 No.2805226

>>2805077

Wages of destruction the second: electronic mind cop edition.


 No.2805243

>>2805160

>posts some paragraphs of meaningless corporate jargon


 No.2811161

>>2805077

The debate takes place almost exactly one year after the nine-day strike that galvanized teachers across the US but failed to fix the decades-long defunding of education and public sector health care in the state.




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 No.2801208[Reply]

Who are your favorite Marxist literary theorists? Lukács? Benjamin? Eagleton?

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 No.2801757

>>2801756

TBF he has a point, most literary analysis courses focus on books that are 50+ years old, a real critical analysis course would have the latest superhero movie or BS Youtube history video as their prime target for dissection.


 No.2801794

File: 4ffc3eaea333bb4⋯.jpg (994.47 KB, 1532x2000, 383:500, angelus novus.jpg)

Benjamin is the only good one. Basically anything published in the west after the 1950s is garbage.


 No.2802511

>>2801208

Marxist literary theory is pretty much dead. There are much more literary frameworks that people can work more with that are being used now. On the other hand, some of the important topics that Marxists would be concerned with have branched out to other genres of literary theory. Things like postcolonism, cultural materialism, and critical theory (kind of) all take parts from it. Needless to say, Marx lives in the head of most literary theorists.

But I agree with another poster here, we need people to shit on super hero movies for the ideological propaganda that it is. And Marxist literary theory would be the perfect match for that.


 No.2804729

>Benjmain?

Kaballah magic isn't Marxist.


 No.2811159

>>2802511

Marx lives in the head of most literary theorists.




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 No.2801853[Reply]

What is going on tovarishi? Usually interesting debates were ongoing in this Mongolian basketweaving community, but now barely any activity (except for shitposting) is happening. In 1 week there has been barely any new posts in the brexit thread. Venezuela gained some traction, but still not a debate, just short posts about nothing. Why is this happening?

A while ago I had to check the active threads multiple times per day to stay in the debate, now once in 24 hours is too much. Are we at an end?

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 No.2804264

>>2801876

The current mod is banning all wrong think.


 No.2804268

>>2804264

how do we lynch the mod?


 No.2804700

>>2803726

Yes such wonderful diversity of thought like:

Nigger hate threads

Jews being jews

Inceldom and virginity

I.Q retardation

Marx being a jew

Communism being a jewish creation

White gen.ocide

Nazbol shit

No thanks laddy. You can keep your garbage.


 No.2804819

>>2804700

>anarchism is when two people unilaterally decide that racism, phobia, and misogyny are good and useful things to allow the board to be spammed with


 No.2811157

>>2801865

Those are the fundaments on which then you would be able to build a ML organisation.




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 No.2805057[Reply]

Should socialists compromise with socialdemocrats in order to gain a bit of power in the government?

Let's say we have two options, as a leftist party: either join an alliance with other parties to get more votes and compromising in the process, or go by yourself without any compromise but with much less votes.

In the former you have a greater chance to get in the government and have some, although probably not much, power.

In the latter, you stay true to your Marxist ideals and much less chances of being corrupt or doing anti-worker stuff, like any succdem reforms.

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 No.2805192

Short answer: No

Long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo definitely not, no. But then again I'm not as keen on parliamentary action as some users here.


 No.2805197

>>2805192

At least try to explain why


 No.2805342

>>2805057

Kind of? While we definitely should not dilute our politics in order to attract socdems, I think that some amount of "compromise" might be necessary. We need to have physical things that we can point to and say "us socialists did this" if we want to convince the proletariat that socialism is in their best interests. Books of theory don't really mean shit to most people, sadly. At the same time, if we do support socdem policies, we must be clear with our aims. We must make it known that these are in no way socialism, and our support for things like nationalized healthcare, minimum wage increases, etc are purely pragmatic, and done to improve the living conditions for the proletariat under capitalism. We should try and use socdem issues as a stepping stone for discussions about the inherent contradictions of capitalism. Why is the minimum wage not enough? We could use this to talk about the falling rate of profit, and how capitalism tends towards an increase in exploitation. We could use healthcare as an example of how capitalism is amoral system, which prioritizes profit over real human lives.

We CANNOT let these redefine socialism. Doing so will greatly defang our movement.


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 No.2811155

>>2805087

The goal here is to play an active and very visible role in improving the lives of the working class




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 No.2804061[Reply]

Matamoros, Mexico maquiladora workers threatened with mass plant closures

The strike of auto parts and electrical workers in Matamoros, Mexico has powerfully demonstrated the international character of the class struggle.In the third week of the strike by auto parts and electrical workers, 23 companies representing 31 plants have agreed to meet the workers’ demands of a 20 percent wage increase and a $1,700 bonus.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/01/31/mata-j31.html

EU parliament urges member states to recognize Guaido as Venezuela’s interim president

The European Parliament voted to recognize opposition leader Juan Guaido as the legitimate interim president of Venezuela and urged EU leaders to do the same.

https://www.rt.com/news/450229-eu-parliament-guaido-president/

WHO Warns Of Dire Conditions, Deaths Of Children At Refugee Camp In Syria

At least 29 children and newborns have died over the past two months in or on their way to the Al-Hol refugee camp in northeastern Syria, the World Heath Organization says, as the camp struggles to deal with cold winter conditions and an influx of displaced people

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/31/690267966/who-warns-of-dire-conditions-deaths-of-children-at-refugee-camp-in-syria

U.S. to stop complying with nuclear pact with Russia after talks flop

The United States will stop complying with a landmark nuclear pact with Russia as soon as this weekend after last-ditch talks with Moscow to save it fell flat, a senior U.S. arms control official said on Thursday.

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 No.2804071

>Pan-Green coalition gains loads of support

Taiwan to declare independence soon.


 No.2804083

>>2804061

>Matamoros, Mexico maquiladora workers threatened with mass plant closures

OH SSSSSHHHHHHIIIIIITTTTTTTT

dup's gonna freak!


 No.2804098

ICE force-feeding detainees on hunger strike

Immigrants have gone on hunger strikes over the past month to protest conditions inside detention facilities, prompting officials to force-feed six of them through plastic nasal tubes at a Texas location, The Associated Press has learned.More detainees are refusing food at the El Paso Processing Center than at any other ICE facility, and lawyers say some detainees are losing weight rapidly after not eating or drinking for more than 30 days.

https://www.apnews.com/c4b201dac8bf48eba17485a5c357b810

Bernie Sanders just introduced a new plan to raise the estate tax for America's billionaires all the way to 77%

Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont on Thursday introduced a new plan to increase the US estate-tax rate in an effort to prevent the concentration of wealth among the US's richest families.The estate tax applies to the assets of a deceased person that get passed down to their heirs.

https://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-estate-tax-plan-wealthy-increase-77-billionaires-rate-2019-1

US Energy Dept. blindsides Nevada with secret delivery of half a ton of weapons-grade plutonium

The US Department of Energy secretly shipped half a metric ton of weapons-grade plutonium to Nevada despite the state’s strong opposition to receiving the nuclear material. The state government fears more deliveries may follow.The Energy Department infuriated Nevada’s government with the admission that it had shipped weapons-grade plutonium from South Carolina to a nuclear security site 113km north of Las Vegas before November.

https://www.rt.com/usa/450203-energy-department-plutonium-nevada/

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 No.2804118

OP/ED

UK still involved in anti-Russian campaign after 100 years

The Western powers have Russia in their sights. Propaganda is at fever pitch. Sounds familiar? No, I’m not talking about 2019, but 1919, when Churchill was supporting military intervention against the Russian government.One hundred years ago, World War I may have ended but the world was hardly at peace.Then, as now, Russia was a target. Bolshevik rule, only established in late 1917, was threatened by a Western-backed foreign intervention to help the anti-Bolshevik White Army regain power.Today, the biggest hawk on the scene in Britain is Gavin Williamson, the defense secretary. In 1919, it was one Winston Churchill, secretary of state for war. At least the titles they gave government ministers were more honest in those days.

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/450227-soviet-uk-russia-propaganda-wwi/

Kamala Harris and Israel: Taking the AIPAC Line

California’s junior senator Kamala Harris has announced her presidential candidacy, joining what will likely become an unusually large field of Democrats seeking the nomination.Harris is being embraced by many progressive Democrats, and she’s branding herself as a progressive. Yet in the course of her little more than two years in the U.S. Senate, she’s taken some foreign policy positions that should give pause to supporters of human rights and international law.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/01/31/kamala-harris-and-israel-taking-the-aipac-line/

8 Points on Venezuela

The Trump administration's aggression toward Venezuela is grotesque, self-serving, and imperialistic. The US should stay out of Venezuela.

https://www.jakkkobinmag.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


 No.2811154

>>2804118

At least the titles they gave government ministers were more honest in those days.




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 No.2802735[Reply]

It's time for you inferior left-coms to think like the Marxist-Leninists do!

I get it, I support you, I hope against all odds you win. but I doubt you will, so I'm hoping you can correct me.

Why did your experiments fail?

Why hasn't trotskyism worked?

>boo-hoo stalin bullied us

Why has Anarchism never lasted more than a few minutes?

>boo-hoo capitalist imperialism

Why does democratic socialism always result in some reactionary coup?

>boo-fucking-hoo CIA sponsored some reactionary to take over

but then when you ask the MLs why most of their experiments failed

>You see, our government processes, methods, and education weren't good enough to catch and prevent the revisionism and redefinition of socialism in these countries, as well as some of their armies needing to be better organized.

MLs are practically the only ones blaming themselves for failures, despite the inevitable betrayals of Anarchists, and later leftcoms

these ooky-spooky forces that keep bullying you still exist and will continue to exist. Please tell me why your shit attempt at a revolution will be different next time, and I mean EXACTLY why

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 No.2803803

>>2802741

>muh material conditions

Isn't it quite amazing how Leftcoms would argue that DiaMat is the result of Stalinist stratification of a Leninist/Plekhanovist deviation of the true materialism of Marx but at the same time apply a model so vulgar to the USSR based on a completely monocausal relationship between superstructure and base that would probably declared revisionist even by Stalin?

What I wanna is that you guys are pseuds because Marx himself considered Russia to have revolutionary potential and even if you argue it didn't, certainly it has reached a level of development by 1960 that would easily qualify for socialism.


 No.2803808

>>2803803

You're quite evidently projecting your own vulgar understanding of materialism by assuming a whole host of claims that are not made in that post. But feel free to courageously defeat countless arguments no one here is making.


 No.2803860

>>2803808

"The USSR was a result of its material conditions and was doomed from the start" is the most vulgar materialist position one could take.

I mean, Stalin did prove you guys wrong by industrialising it rapidly for socialism to take hold, didn't he? The question we face with is where we go from there, the experiences of the most developed socialist countries like USSR, GDR or CSSR - instead Leftcoms want to reinvent the wheel and think the Russian Revolution died with the NEP. This is ignoring all the developments within real Marxism since 1917, by real I seek to exclude Frankfurt School/Baudrillard etc. theory jerking in obscure lecture halls.


 No.2803879

>>2803860

>you guys

can you stop with this bullshit? Who the fuck are you talking about. I'm not a leftcom and none of this is leftcom positions. Your compulsive desire to 'BTFO the fake marxists epic style' or whatever is childish.

I'm not sure what the USSR's industrialisation is meant to prove wrong, im not aware of any marxist theorist who claimed this was impossible at the time but feel free to expand on who or what exactly was being proven wrong and how it relates to material conditions making the 1917 incapable to succeed.

>The question we face with is where we go from there, the experiences of the most developed socialist countries like USSR, GDR or CSSR

So how does that differ from what has been said earlier in the thread? You're not actually saying anything.

>instead Leftcoms want to reinvent the wheel and think the Russian Revolution died with the NEP.

Who has said this and what does this mean, sounds like a very vague characterisation of your 'big bad'.

Once again you've decided to opt for a scattershot of entirely mistaken assumptions about my perspective on 20th century socialist attempts in the hope some of it would be relevant. Perhaps if you decided to stop being needlessly combative and engaged with the content of posts rather than the ideological tendencies you image behind them you could actually engage substantively with them.


 No.2811149

>>2802741

That experiment is over and there are clear material reasons for its catastrophic failure.




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 No.2803284[Reply]

Moderate rebels? Defecting Venezuelan soldiers beg Trump for weapons on CNN

Two Venezuelan soldiers loyal to self-proclaimed interim president Juan Guaidó have pleaded with the Trump administration for arms, in a bid to “realize Venezuelan freedom.” What could go wrongThe former soldiers, living outside Venezuela, told CNN that hundreds of willing defectors inside the country had been in contact with them, asking the US for weapons and support for a planned revolt.

https://www.rt.com/news/450160-venezuela-defecting-soldiers-cnn/

U.S. INTELLIGENCE CHIEF SAYS ISRAEL'S ATTACKS IN SYRIA INCREASE THE THREAT OF WAR WITH IRAN

resident Donald Trump's top intelligence chief has told lawmakers that Israeli strikes against Iranian positions in Syria may push Iran to fight back, potentially triggering a wider regional war.Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats testified Tuesday before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, on which he previously served during his tenure as Indiana senator.

https://archive.is/ozLu2

Taliban say they are not looking to rule Afghanistan alone

The Taliban said Wednesday they are not seeking a “monopoly on power” in a future administration in Afghanistan but are looking for ways to co-exist with Afghan institutions — the most conciliatory statement to date from the militants.

https://www.apnews.com/0624283628154a48b09f31ff173e3ad9

Exclusive: UAE used cyber super-weapon to spy on iPhones of foes

A team of former U.S. government intelligence operatives working for the United Arab Emirates hacked into the iPhones of activists, diplomats and rival foreign leaders with the help of a sophisticated spying tool called Karma, in a campaign that Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.2803351

>>2803322

Why is the WSWS reporting so negatively on the strike? Other commie sites are reporting more positively.

https://www.liberationnews.org/eyewitness-day-seven-agreement-reached-in-los-angeles-teachers-strike/


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 No.2803478

>>2803351

WSWS doesn't abide cuck unions.


 No.2803721

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>30 years ago there was a hope for Afghanistan to become a secular and socialist republic

>now the taliban have won


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cementing their control over an area the size of neighboring Lebanon.




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 No.2802814[Reply]

Is there any information on this? It's brought up more and more as a liberal talking point.

It hasn't really bothered me before, people trying to get into the imperialist West wasn't exactly limited to Second World nations (and, at about 100,000 over the course of three decades, not that many really attempted to cross on the grand scale of things), but I'll admit it's not really something I know much about, wanted to ask people who might know a bit more.

For reference, liberal talking points tend to be:

1) If socialism is so great, why do you have to wall people into it

2) Something about people getting shot trying to cross

3) I've never heard people trying to cross the wall into East Germany!

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 No.2803293

>>2802828

>Today's Germany is described as a "slave state" and a "dictatorship of capital," and some letter writers reject Germany for being, in their opinion, too capitalist or dictatorial, and certainly not democratic. Schroeder finds such statements alarming. "I am afraid that a majority of eastern Germans do not identify with the current sociopolitical system."

LMAO. I love how right wingers tell us to listen to people who have "actually lived under communism" and then when it is proved that they liked it better, they say they're all brainwashed or something.


 No.2803327

Those who fled to the west and/or were shot trying were Euro-gusanos anyway.


 No.2803349

It was the Antifascist Defense Wall, and it was very good.


 No.2803549

Thanks guys.


 No.2811143

The view of people from eastern Germany. Today, 20 years after the fall of the Berlin Wall, 57 percent, or an absolute majority, of eastern Germans defend the former East Germany. "The GDR had more




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 No.2810159[Reply]

No idea if this has been addressed but what’s the consensus regarding women in the far right? What’s the appeal for them? Far right vs lefty women (differences)? Are women starting to be more drawn to fascism as opposed to Marxism? Is it for attention primarily?

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>>2810609

You can't argue with superior Aryan genes. Facts don't care about your feelings.


 No.2811053

>>2810609

there is cringe on both sides however the right has more of a lifting/self improvement culture than the left


 No.2811087

>>2811054

Even though he's cringe he kind of looks adorable. Seeing the left pic where he smiles to the camera while hugging his grandma (I think) gives me a warm feeling. Looks like a child in an adult body.


 No.2811671

>>2810246

>that kid who would use wikipedia as source


 No.2812607

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To respond to OP, they're usually bourgies who won't be affected by the retardation they advocate.

>muh masculinity

reminder that malnourished soy gooks PTSD'd a generation of well fed imperialists




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