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File: 635bd8ffb19a91d⋯.jpg (15.97 KB, 220x349, 220:349, 220px-Sam_Harris_2016_(cro….jpg)

 No.2887982[Reply]

The left seems to not like this guy anymore, but why is this the case? His politics, while not on the far left, certainly seem to be strongly left leaning. Is it just because he's against idpol? Or is he actually malevolent?

He may have done interviews with hacks like Peterson and Shapiro, but he shouldn't be guilty by association.

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 No.2888428

File: 0d17003644c83a7⋯.png (502.91 KB, 1632x1147, 1632:1147, Samuel Benjamin Harris.png)


 No.2893108

>>2888076

>Supports us imperialism

This is factually inaccurate.

>Race Autism Level

This is also not true. He had someone on his podcast who promoted that stuff. Sam saw data, but he criticized it too.


 No.2893116

Sam Harris is a leftist if you look at his positions. Not a leftist in the sense of this board. However, in America, he is definitely on the left side of politics. The dude is a total hippy if you really look into him. He has said some stupid shit before, but that shouldn't negate him completely. I think he's been smeared and taken out of context a lot. So much too the point that people on the left just see him as on the other team, when really that isn't the case.

The only genuine criticism I've heard about him is stupid things said in the past that he's changed his position on, and his stubborness/ego getting in the way of him admitting the times he's said stupid shit


 No.2893654

>>2888011

That's libtard logic. Some members of the KKK just believe in upholding their HERITAGE, NOT HATE.

The only REAL racists, are people who have the words "Hello, I am a big racist" tatooed directly on their foreheads and eyeballs.

(people who only have it on their foreheads are obviously just doing it ironically as a joke)


 No.2893999

He doesnt buy into 'woke' twitter.




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 No.2872983[Reply]

I live in finland, joensuu (utra to be specific) where can i find and buy leftist books?

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 No.2887985

>>2872983

Näitähän löytyy lähestulkoot mistä tahansa kirjakaupasta, mutta helpoten tuota lukumateriaalia löytyy esimerkiksi kommunistien puoluetapahtumista joissa yleensä myyvät tuota teoreettista kirjallisuutta. Valitettavasti anarkistien kirjallisuus on harvemassa mutta ihan hyvät valikoimat mielestäni löytyy myös suomalaisen kirjakaupan sivustoilta jos olet valmis maksamaan ylihintaa ja jaksat odottaa sen 2-3 viikoa.


 No.2888021

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>>2872983

Paikallinen antikvariaatti on ystäväsi tässä tilanteessa. Sieltä on itelle löytynyt mm. O.W Kuusisen rustauksia ja Engelsin "Sosialismin kehitys utopiasta tieteeksi."


 No.2888032

>>2888021

En tiennytkään että kuusisella oli suomenkielistä tuotantoa. Ovatko ne pelkästään lyhyitä esseitä vai ihan kirjojakin?


 No.2888040

File: 8836bf268770dd1⋯.jpg (79.48 KB, 600x572, 150:143, 1471030039006.jpg)

>>2888032

Ei ole tällä hetkellä käsillä mutta muistaakseni se oli kirja jossa oli koottu Kuusisen kirjoituksia eri aiheista (mm. kirjeitä Leninille ja Neuvosto-Venäjän kansankommissariaatille). Iso osa rustauksista tosin on ajalta kun Kuusinen oli jo siirtnyt Neuvostoliiton puolelle ja aloittanut uuden poliittisen uransa siellä.


 No.2888085

You go to Vastarinta and ask them. We will hook you up with everything you need




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 No.2884291[Reply]

Hey gais, do you believe in womb envy? By karen horney?

>>In feminist psychology, the terms womb envyand vagina envy denote the anxiety that many men may feel caused by envy of the biological functions of the female sex (pregnancy, parturition, breastfeeding). These emotions could fuel the social subordination of women, and drive men to succeed in other areas of life, such as business, law, and politics.[1][2][3]Each term is analogous to the concept of female penis envy, derived from the theory of psychosexual development, presented in Freudian psychology; they address the gender role social dynamics underlying the "envy and fascination with the female breasts and lactation, with pregnancy and childbearing, and vagina envy [that] are clues and signs of transsexualism and to a femininity complex of men, which is defended against by psychological and sociocultural means"

Wiki

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 No.2888479

>>2884291

Somebody inverted Sigmund Freud's concept of penis envy.

We should immediately create a new branch of psychology to understand the inversion drive.


 No.2888501

I'm also very envious that I dont have the possibility to blood every month but whatever. Also low-quality Freud reversal, but you already pointed that out. (apropos Freud, I'm still not sure whether skyscrapers are just phallic symbolism)


 No.2888936

For Freud men have castration anxiety because they discover their mother, whom they identified with, has no penis (when she's naked). The genitals and ass of the baby-son were also washed by the phallic mother, a relaxing feeling, and so boys identify that experience passively, with their mother in the active role, hence those who don't outgrow that stage remain "momma-boys"/gays (still according to Freud). This is the "vulgar" basis of the still somewhat reality-based Freud, from which Zizek, via Lacan, draws more questionable assertions.

Now in male porn fetishes, it's true that we don't see envy of the womb as such. We rather see for example futanari, which are women with a penis, so a soothing return to the uncastrated phallic mother. Transsexuals in porn are also considered, for the male fantasy to work, as real women (it is not homosexuality).

Based on Freud's claim that women have penis envy, you would expect popular porn for women to feature women with a penis, but futanari or shemale porn is not a popular genre with women (or lesbians) AFAIK. Rather male gay romantic porn is popular among (heterosexual) women, featuring men being cute/caring with each other, that is sort of acting like pussies. Does this disprove Freud's thesis? For Freud child birth works like a sublimation of penis envy; a way for woman to get a penis (the child being an extension of her body).

However, and here I'm speculating, perhaps feminist psychologists could retort to this, by saying that male misogyny is really hatred of one's own penis: men's "disappointment" that real women don't have a penis, leads to the fact that she becomes the penis, that is woman=penis, so that you can't "be a man" without owning a women (if not, you're a beta/cuck, ie a man without a status-object/penis), and therefore woman is treated like an object, namely like a penis, and if she's treated badly (by yourself, or by other men), then it's as if one's own penis is being treated badly. Now the fetish of transsexuals, crossdressers, etc. is to have their own penis treated badly, but pain and pleasure go together here. It also doesn't mean they actively envy the womb, but then if we take Freud's thesis of penis envy, we didn't find in popular porn for women either the fantasy about having a penis/balls.


 No.2888943

>>2888936

this was very interesting


 No.2890707

File: da863e20b48cd95⋯.jpg (9.29 KB, 220x241, 220:241, skinner.jpg)

cannot fucking wait for the rest of the left to get over their schizophrenic psychology




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 No.2887738[Reply]

In this video Caleb Maupin argues that "Cultural marxism" conspiracy is not entirely false. What do you guys think?

https://youtu.be/W9Q5g4J48Jk

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 No.2887809

>>2887756

>Gotta give the marxists the credit they deserve. They know how to infiltrate and brainwash, but they need to learn how to control what they create. LOL

Yeah, all those "Marxists" that totally exist and aren't just "Marx had a point on some things, but was ultimately wrong so we should tolerate at best social democracy" liberals.


 No.2887811

>>2887750

Couldn't find it, there's this tho:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3BMe6J3zQw


 No.2887921

I don't know much about him but reading his Twitter feed, he seems like the guy who will jump into a completely unrelated conversation to go "guys there's too much IDPOL guys we've gotta do something about all the IDPOL!!!" And then a group of people talking about collective bargaining agreements look up and wonder what the hell this freak is talking about. /leftypol/ rots the brain, people

>>2887766

The CIA was doing that much earlier. Read "the God That Failed" which was published in 1949 and produced with the assistance of the CIA. Essays by people like Arthur Kostler, Richard Wright, etc. about them becoming disillusioend after their experiences with communist parties in the 1930s.


 No.2887935

File: cd2831b19c1e315⋯.jpg (52.41 KB, 680x770, 68:77, homofobia.jpg)

>>2887752

I feel so bad when I see his videos getting only 50~100 views.


 No.2887945

File: f472b8082759957⋯.jpg (124.3 KB, 750x500, 3:2, Jeane-Kirkpatrick3.21.17.jpg)

I also don't think you can just blame Trotskyism here (although a lot of Trotskyists went neocon: Trotskyism is bad news, kids!). But the problem is much deeper than that. It kinda ignores all the ex-Stalinists who went anti-communist. And the biggest neocon of them all, Jeane Kirkpatrick, started out in the Socialist Party of America – which was not a Trotskyist group but Eugene Debs' old party. She grew up in Oklahoma in the 1930s and 1940s and her grandfather was an organizer for the priarie socialists back in those days.

That generation of anti-communists was ruthlessly effective. Kirkpatrick was an ice-cold killer. The new guys aren't so good at it and never really engaged on a deep level with their enemy like the old-school right-wing neocons did. John Bolton by comparison is the junior developmental varsity version of that, which is why he's having so much trouble pushing over Maduro. Kirkpatrick by contrast actually read Marx and Lenin. These were anti-communists you could respect because they meant business. It's why Mao respected Nixon.

Anyways, it's my allegation that Maupin and others construct this narrative which winks and nods at the Nazi conspiracy theory of Cultural Marxism / Judeobolshevismus because they – cynically – feel that it's a useful way to poach far right people, by telling the Nazis that it's all true (with an implication that Trots are all Jews as well) but that it was constructed by the CIA to destroy communism. There are discussions here on this forum where people say exactly that: it's totally cynical and it doesn't matter if it's true or not. Maybe this is defensible as propaganda if you stick inside this lane of trying to psyop the far right, but if you actually believe this then I think you're doing yourself a disservice, and you're not even thinking in Marxist terms here as I read it.

Well that's Nazbol for you.

Like, it's true capitalism will do everything it can to divide the working class. It will do so along racial lines, gender lines, sexual orientation, age, etc. – anyway it can think of. What happens, then, is that you see white workers of a typical Christian background with rather conventionally conservative social views vPost too long. Click here to view the full text.




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 No.2878711[Reply]

What are your thoughts on Mutualism? Is it viable? Was Proudhon a genius or a fraud?

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 No.2887772

proudhon was a cuck who advocated paying your rent on time. FUCK HIM AND HIS FAMILY


 No.2887779

How is Mutualism different from syndicalism, anarcho-communism, or libertarian socialism? And how are these things different from each other? And why don't I care?


 No.2887799

it's shit


 No.2887970

>>2887779

it's closer to ancap than it is to ancom.


 No.2887971

>>2887970

basically they're ancaps who like squatting, cooperatives and mutual credit.




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 No.2887777[Reply]

What I'm claiming really is 100% true about "The Left".

Bing simple, direct, and correct ≠ being simple minded or stupid; quite the opposite.

>I'm explaining my points in simple language so that it may appeal to a larger audience.

I'm not hateful, racist, resentful, or manipulative in any way.

Claim 1 -

99% of Leftists look at Society through a lense of 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧bigoted indignation🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧.

>Plenty of you will deny this claim and make your best attempts at ad hominem attacks and obfuscation.

Claim 2 -

The overwhelming majority of Leftist propaganda exemplifies one of the smallest minority in the world

>rich straight white males,

as the patriarchal, oppressive, masterminds who are somehow behind the world's largest, most diabolical, conspiracy.

Claim 3 -

Jews are to the Right as rich white males are to the Left.

>This simile proves true any way you look at it…

Purpose of claims 1, 2, and 3:

On the premise that "The Left" is viewing the world through bigoted indignation, all you can do is right wrongs through "justified" use of force. If the purpose of the overwhelming majority of Leftist propaganda is simply to right the wrongs supposedly committed by rich straight white males, then the result of said propaganda is going to be the creation of more stereotypes and racism. It seems as though the only purpose of Leftist propaganda is to play identity politics in order to unite the various "Minorities" and women into a matriarchal majority whose sole purpose is simply to put an end to the megalithic global conspiracy of conspiring rich white males.

How can an honest and sane person honestly believe that either the Jews or rich straight white men are collaborating in some way, conscious orPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.2887988

>>2887916

>Suppose you have a tank of gas that is at 100%. If you only burn 50% of the gas at a time, your car will move forever.

>Obviously this does not work in reality.The car wouldn't get very far…

>Marxism is exactly like that. Marxism constantly burns half of Societies resources in a way that is not renewable.

>When the wealthy person hoards money, they have contributed something to society in order to gain that money in the first place…

What the fuck are you even saying?


 No.2888140

>>2887916

>Marxism is when you take the bourgeoisie's money and distribute it, and the more you distribute the more Marxist it is

>Only the bourgeoisie contribute to society, not the workers

You're a special kind of retarded

>>2887920

>Excuse my broken english… I come from a Communist nation.

Doubt it, but even if that were the case it doesn't even matter. For every one dissatisfied class traitor, there are a hundred of those who are loyal to it or wish for it's return.


 No.2888340

>>2888140

Why don’t you move to a Communist nation?


 No.2888341

>>2888140

Why do people flee communist nations in troves, but nobody is fleeing Capitalist nations?

Why is it illegal to leave a communist nation, but the capitalist nation allows you to leave when ever the fuck you want to?


 No.2888445

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>>2888341

Why do capitalist countries gun down their citizens who try to escape to freedom?




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 No.2887730[Reply]

Every check a weather site and see that the shits complete shit! No one understands shit about it! Why i think is because of finding the weather for ourselves it is predicted to us(mostly accurate not the point)! Its been sensationalized and made in to practically tabloids! (BRING INTELLICAST BACK IT ORIGINAL STATE yea i know it changed hands) maybe im a anarcho-merorologist!

I once was at a gas station(HAD A SCREEN AT THE PUMP) and i saw cnn playing their weather sequence. It showed the meme 75 and sunny all for the whole week i as like BULLSHIT. I checked a more trusted weather site and it was to rain for 3 days! This was life straight from its live stream on cable!!! Are hurricanes agent of accelerationism??? Hit they are so are all natural disasters!!! The ruling class doesnt want us aware of your surrounding ecology!!! EDUCATE YOURSELLLFS!!!

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 No.2887746

>>2887745

you're cute. do you have ig?


 No.2887753

Is this a app/software?

do you have ig?^^^^^

Ig?<<<<

???


 No.2887755

You put it confusingly?


 No.2890317

Apparently comrades arent into merorology disappointing honestly


 No.2890319

Meteorology




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 No.2887751[Reply]

Land sectionalization is necessary to plan production and distribution right or wrong?

Share Opinions Below!!!



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 No.2886736[Reply]

Sup leftypol, just casually shilling this interview :

https://youtu.be/Dc4EKy5Pwzc

I've slapped CC on top of it, it's about determinism in social science and it's from my main guy Frederic Lordon. I'm going to bed now but when I'm back up we can discuss determinism theory etc.

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 No.2887029

bookmarked, i will watch it later


 No.2887152

>>2886738

Deleuze's book on Spinoza called "Practical philosophy" is concise, clear and considered a very good introduction. Check it out before trying to go for the ethics.


 No.2887320

Nice lecture thanks for subs OP.

I'm reading difference and repetition right now, practical philosophy is next.

Deleuze > *


 No.2887527

Lordon is fine but I can't say he's a great philosopher.

still better than nothing.


 No.2887710

>>2887320

I would read practical philosophy before difference and repetition. Good luck!

>>2887527

He's probably the most interesting theorician alive right now for the left.




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 No.2887654[Reply]

U.S. Takes Control Of North Korean 'Sanctions-Busting' Ship

U.S. authorities announced on Thursday that they have taken control of a coal ship North Korea was allegedly using to evade international sanctions.The ship, called the M/V Wise Honest, was first held by Indonesian authorities more than a year ago and is now being moved to American Samoa.

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/09/721827706/u-s-takes-control-of-north-korean-sanctions-busting-ship

Argentine deputy targeted in 'premeditated shooting'

An Argentine deputy has been seriously injured and another man killed in a shooting outside parliament in Buenos Aires, officials say.Hector Olivares, of Argentina's Radical Civic Union (UCR), was shot three times by armed suspects while walking with a colleague on Thursday morning.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-48223177

‘Why do we fuel the war?’ French peace activists manage to stop arms shipment to Saudis – report

A ship that was set to carry arms to Saudi Arabia has apparently left France without them, a day after a protest at port. Activists rallied to stop the delivery, saying the weapons could be used to slaughter civilians in Yemen.

https://www.rt.com/news/458983-france-protest-arms-saudis/

Venezuela Announces Re-opening Borders With Brazil, Aruba

During a Friday morning press conference, Venezuelan vice president of economy said the nation is reopening its borders with Brazil, Aruba.

https://www.telesurengPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.2887679

>>2887673

>Ben Shapiro ends BBC interview, scolds host: 'I'm popular and no one has ever heard of you'

>Conservative commentator Ben Shapiro abruptly ended a BBC interview on Friday while telling host Andrew Neil "I'm popular and no one has ever heard of you" in a contentious exchange.The interview, which was conducted via satellite between London and Los Angeles, became heated after Neil claimed that "all the new policies" are "coming from the left, and they're popular," while conservatives were absent of new

THE ABSOLUTE STATE


 No.2887681

thanks news anon


 No.2887687

OP/ED

Thank Russia for Winning World War II

Russia celebrates victory over the Third Reich on May 9th; the West celebrated it on May 8th. Separate celebrations make sense because the communists had a different fight against the Nazis than the free world did. The USA fought a quarter of the war that our Soviet allies waged – and we opened fire on them at the end. D-Day was timed to halt Russia’s advance west; not to liberate the continent from white supremacists. Western powers waited to open the second front until 11 months before the war ended because our richest racists kept doing business with the Aryans until 1945.There are many ways to visualize the fraction of the war fought by Western powers: More Uzbeks than Americans died. 14% of the USSR’s prewar population, 2k towns, 70k villages, 40k miles of railroad, and 100k collective farms were wiped out in a Nazi masturbation fantasy. https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/05/10/thank-russia-for-winning-world-war-ii/

Making Monsters: David Geffen

David Geffen is one of Hollywood’s most influential media moguls. Geffen, the owner of Dreamworks, is also one of the worlds only LGBT billionaires, with a net worth of $8.5 billion. It’s probably fair to say he is the world’s wealthiest gay man, well perhaps the world’s wealthiest OUT gay man.Forbes lists the 75-year-old as number 190 on their 2018 billionaires list and states that Geffen was born to Jewish immigrants. Biography.com expands on Geffen’s history by explaining that his parents were poor textile workers who immigrated from the Soviet Union.This is an interesting and humbling history that, when told, serves to humanize Geffen and identify him with the problems of the global working class. Clearly erasing or changing historical narratives so that they deviate from the truth serves as no form of justice, so I’m not saying that Geffen’s story shouldn’t be told, rather I’m saying that it should be told in context. …. It matters not that Geffen was born poor, that he grew up Jewish and gay. So have countless others — ones who didn’t devour the working class that Geffen is Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


 No.2887694

>Ben Shapiro ends BBC interview, scolds host: 'I'm popular and no one has ever heard of you'

What happened to facts and logic?


 No.2887697

OP/ED

Thank Russia for Winning World War II

Russia celebrates victory over the Third Reich on May 9th; the West celebrated it on May 8th. Separate celebrations make sense because the communists had a different fight against the Nazis than the free world did. The USA fought a quarter of the war that our Soviet allies waged – and we opened fire on them at the end. D-Day was timed to halt Russia’s advance west; not to liberate the continent from white supremacists. Western powers waited to open the second front until 11 months before the war ended because our richest racists kept doing business with the Aryans until 1945.There are many ways to visualize the fraction of the war fought by Western powers: More Uzbeks than Americans died. 14% of the USSR’s prewar population, 2k towns, 70k villages, 40k miles of railroad, and 100k collective farms were wiped out in a Nazi masturbation fantasy. https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/05/10/thank-russia-for-winning-world-war-ii/

Making Monsters: David Geffen

David Geffen is one of Hollywood’s most influential media moguls. Geffen, the owner of Dreamworks, is also one of the worlds only LGBT billionaires, with a net worth of $8.5 billion. It’s probably fair to say he is the world’s wealthiest gay man, well perhaps the world’s wealthiest OUT gay man.Forbes lists the 75-year-old as number 190 on their 2018 billionaires list and states that Geffen was born to Jewish immigrants. Biography.com expands on Geffen’s history by explaining that his parents were poor textile workers who immigrated from the Soviet Union.This is an interesting and humbling history that, when told, serves to humanize Geffen and identify him with the problems of the global working class. Clearly erasing or changing historical narratives so that they deviate from the truth serves as no form of justice, so I’m not saying that Geffen’s story shouldn’t be told, rather I’m saying that it should be told in context. …. It matters not that Geffen was born poor, that he grew up Jewish and gay. So have countless others — ones who didn’t devour the working class that Geffen is Post too long. Click here to view the full text.




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 No.2886208[Reply]

>repeatedly tolerates literal open cops being in the org

>constantly having civil war over people being cancelled and MeTooed for nothing

>is still controlled and directed by reformists who think Bernstein and Kautsky were misunderstood and should make a comeback

>language policing is literally a structural part of the org

>tolerates actual neocons being in the org

>has no real antiwar movement to speak of

>tolerates the son of a billionaire who profited from the war on terror being in the org and a cult of personality to defend him against any criticism

>balls deep in idpol pc culture and culture wars nonsense

>constantly alienates the more radical chapters in favor of reformism and working within the Democratic party

>composed primarily of petite bourg college kids rather than working class people

Exactly why does anyone here defend this hot steaming pile of dogshit again? Inb4 "we gotta shift le Overton window left" that's already happened

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 No.2887089

>>2886254

>I think everything stems from growing pains and figuring out what D*SA is going to be

I believe 80 % of the problem is that they allow people as members who aren't working class. Would be cool if a working-class caucus formed with a minimalist and invariant program of this modest goal: proportional representation of the working class in decision bodies, and together with that, a browser plugin/website/whatever thing to tag people who aren't working class on social media. Imagine a world where everybody who is e.g. a landlord has that word as a tag next to everything they post on twitter, facebook etc… People like landlords could still attend meetings, but they would be required to wear a button with a pig head. Speaking time would be apportioned in proportion to how big the group of bosses and landlords is in the real world.


 No.2887103

>>2887043

>defending necrophilia

When did he do that?


 No.2887126

>>2886215

>Also fascists used to organize strikes to trick working class people into thinking they were on their side are they leftists now too?

>fascist breath

>therefore breathing is fascist

this is what you sound like


 No.2887194

>>2886237

I thought that last one was an anti idpol meme at first


 No.2887469

File: 396d059d289baa6⋯.jpg (110.2 KB, 898x1124, 449:562, 396.jpg)

Bumping because I am reading the foundations of Leninism right now and I thought this passage where Stalin describes the pre-war 2nd international is almost a 1-1 mirror of the Democrat Cops of America today and other demsoc orgs in the 1st world

>The opportunists adapted themselves to the bourgeois because of their adaptive, petty-bourgeois nature; the "orthodox," in their turn, adapted themselves to the opportunists in order to "preserve unity" with them, in the interests of "peace within the party." Thus the link between the policy of the bourgeois and the policy of the "orthodox" was closed, and, as a result, opportunism reigned supreme.

>This was the period of the relatively peaceful development of capitalism, the pre-war period, so to speak, when the catastrophic contradictions of imperialism had not yet became so glaringly evident, when workers' economic strikes and trade unions were developing more or less "normally," when election campaigns and parliamentary groups yielded "dizzying" successes, when legal forms of struggle were lauded to the skies, and when it was thought that capitalism would be "killed" by legal means-in short, when the parties of the Second International were living in clover and had no inclination to think seriously about revolution, about the dictatorship of the proletariat, about the revolutionary education of the masses.

>Instead of an integral revolutionary theory, there were contradictory theoretical postulates and fragments of theory, which were divorced from the actual revolutionary struggle of the masses and had been turned into threadbare dogmas. For the sake of appearances, Marx's theory was mentioned, of course, but only to rob it of its living, revolutionary spirit.

>Instead of a revolutionary policy, there was flabby philistinism and sordid political bargaining, parliamentary diplomacy and parliamentary scheming. For the sake of appearances, of course, "revolutionary" resolutions and slogans were adopted, but only to be pigeonholed.

>Instead of the party being trained and taught correct revolutionary tactics on the basis of its own mistakes, there was a studied evasion of vexed questions, which were glossed overPost too long. Click here to view the full text.




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 No.2887378[Reply]

>accidentally make a racist joke without thinking

>quickly apologise

>fired

>people on the left say even though he didn't intend to be racist, he should still be punished.

I don't get this at all. Am I the only one who still believes in transformative justice? it feels like the people who want him to be fired feel like "something needs to be done", but the only ption these days for action is "fire" or "not fire".

As someone who is a leftist and a committed anti racist, who understands that intent doesn't give you a free pass to say anything, i still feel like the reaction is well over the top here. Are we so bereft of anti racist responses that we can only respond in the crudest way possible?

(Btw this guy is called Danny baker and he made a joke about how the new royal baby was a monkey, without realising the baby has some black heritage.)

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 No.2887431

It's so hard to have sympathy for people in the entertainment industry, on one hand no one should be left fucking jobless just because they said something, on the other hand I just don't like how that works to begin with, because that's how entertainment works, when people stop liking you, be it because you just aren't as "talented" as you used to be or because you said a bad word, there's nothing you can do about it.


 No.2887439

>>2887431

I mean Baker will be alright but the worry is that this kind of "fire them" culture can translate down to more precarious individuals.

It really feels like the pinnacle of neoliberalism, where the only response to racism is to call upon corporations to act as social judges.


 No.2887442

>>2887439

It's just a dangerous precedent to set. Look at the James Gunn scenario. If Disney can fire the writer/director of a successful and popular series over a bullshit narrative some nazis put together, think how easily they could fire anybody lower on the totem pole over anything more substantial than that. Ultimately he got reinstated because of backlash, but who's going to say anything over an editor or something getting fired? Who's going to say anything about someone fired from a field other than show business?


 No.2887466

>>2887442

>It's just a dangerous precedent to set

That's just working for any American company. They can fire you for any reason or no reason at all at any time.


 No.2887518

>>2887466

And this "activism" confirms that role for the corporation, who can now act as a moral judge for society with the claimed consent of the people




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 No.2887312[Reply]

Your thoughts on Jimmy Hoffa? This question is coming from a non-American. Was he as corrupt as he is usually depicted?



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 No.2887199[Reply]

NONONONO THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING. I THOUGHT RACIST INCELS DIDN'T HAVE SEX? YOU LIED TO ME /LEFTYPOL/

(>it's another episode of "communists are liberals")
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 No.2887208

oh and for bonus points what a sure fire way to lower birth rates? Make mum and dad both work 40+ hour weeks for shit wages, also make housing and other necessities ridiculously expensive, cant afford kids, wont have kids, or will raise shit kids in shit conditions. These are facts


 No.2887210

>more kids = more sex

lol virgin


 No.2887271

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Doesn't this kill the narrative that the zoomers are all le epic fascists who are rebelling against their SJW parents?


 No.2887495

>>2887271

Gen Z being fascist is a fairy tale the right has to comfort themselves.

They're more pro-queer theory than any generation before them for one. Economically they're too the left as well.

If they vote aggressively unlike millennial, it'll be fun to see the gymnastics with voting rights that happen and how they cause revolution by aggressively trying to stop even social democrats have a seat at the table. Historic error was made by the DCCC by only supporting incumbents, they enable the progressive left to go full socialist without any dependence on establishment democrats.


 No.2887814

>>2887495

What about white genz?




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 No.2887019[Reply]

Thoughts/feedback?

We will never be able to recruit new people like /pol/ does unless we start self-reflecting.

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 No.2892414

>>2887019

why is half of this dedicated to paragraphs about the intricacies of sex change operations lmao


 No.2893178

WHEN U KILL KILL NIGS

/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\

LMAO BOTTOM TEXT


 No.2893328

>>2887052

No, empathy is not high enough in cases where people have a tendency to dissociate and dehumanise.

This is another reason why right wing memes "work", because they cut through this emotional disconnection, to the lizard brain reaction, which gives dopamine reward as a latent worldview is validated.

Something else is needed, but it has to be rooted in basic psychology if you want to compete with their memes.


 No.2897215

>>2887180

>>2887171

I only read that reply from the comment the /pol/acke replied to and still anticipated that exact response

t./pol/


 No.2897794

I love you.




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