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 No.2874946[Reply]

Is there anything Nietzsche wrote that's worth reading? or am I just wasting my time and better off reading the mountain of other shit I need to get through?

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 No.2881610

Is Stirner but more idealistic and poetic, if you read like a fiction book is prety nice, otherwise, reading like a serious philosopher, will a huge mistake, if you're smart and realy get his messange, you'll realize he has the same contradictions of all egoist league.


 No.2881681

>>2881543

If you're a socialist, it's the most interesting way to approach his work. I'm not claiming that's actually who he was. He was a confused mess. Everyone is.


 No.2881699

Nietzche is awesome proto-anarchist just based on the fact that he was keenly aware that people were/are overdomesticated to the extreme. Like he always talked about minotaurs and half-animals because that's much more natural. There's one book called his Zoo or something that's really good. Though Zarathustra sucks after you've read Stirner because N's protagonist fails to convince anyone and he's just being autistic whereas spookman is just like Yeah well I Am fucking rad and everyone else can fuck off because they've got bats in their bellfry


 No.2882070

>>2874946

<POWER GOOD

There, I just saved you hundreds of hours reading through his shit.


 No.2882071

>>2882070

also

>guides in how to deal with god's death




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 No.2881958[Reply]

This is the greatest opportunity to get him on the podcast to talk about wieners, pussies and ideology.

https://www.change.org/p/slavoj-%C5%BEi%C5%BEek-get-slavoj-%C5%BEi%C5%BEek-on-the-official-podcast

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 No.2882015

what about the joe rogan show?


 No.2882032

>>2882015

If he goes on Rogan it would be better for us,

but if he goes on the official podcast it would be way more entertaining.


 No.2882039

Post this on chapo's reddit and you will have enough votes in few minutes.


 No.2882125

>>2881958

>>>r/chapotraphouse

>>>r/zizek


 No.2882250

>>2882015

That would be perfect.




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 No.2881764[Reply]

Hello /leftypol/, this is my first post here since I’ve started lurking this place six months ago. I wanted first of all to thank all of you for having helped me to get rid of my retarded fascist ideas, I learned so much thanks to all of your effortposting which led me to actually start to read books on Marxism.

I’m still pretty uneducated on Marxism and Socialism although I could say I have understood the foundations of it. However, I still get a strange feeling about my ideological stance. I’ve always had this idea in my head that, no matter how many facts I can learn about something, there is always going to be some kind of intellectual with a super long list of counter-facts that is going to utterly btfo my understanding of this thing. Now I know this is normal to think this, but for me this does not happen for every ideology, for instance Fascism because it has no actual stance on economics (“muh don’t focus too much on materialism duh, we need spirituality!!!11!1”) and its supporters (intellectuals or not) are basically super-confused and generally misunderstand the world surrounding them.

However, the same does not apply to Liberalism, and I’m always “doubtful” of the good deeds (or of the absence of bad deeds) of the Socialists countries even though I have been exposed to a pile of evidence showing me their achievements. I already successfully debated with right winger on the Holodomor question for instance, arguing against it with very precise arguments and evidences, yet in my head I still doubt if it wasn’t caused by the economic reforms put in place. The same I can say about Maoist China or even right-now, Venezuela. It’s basically like if my brain was divided into two, the rational side of me that support the evidence I have been shown and the emotional side which still tells me that my position is wrong.

The problem is that today we are bombarded with too much information, on one side we have the “Mainstream” Medias which support one narrative (Fox News, CNN, Vice, etc.) and on the other side there are the “Alternative” Medias which support sometimes a completely opposite narrative (RT, Sputnik, Al Jazeera, etc.). However, one could argue that all of these medias are run by imperialists power and that has such, none of them are really rePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.2881850

If you want to get upto speed on modern anti-capitalist thought, just read the Jacobin pamphlet series. It's short, concise, and easy to understand. You can download them easily at LibGen

http://gen.lib.rus.ec/search.php?req=Vivek+Chibber+ABCs+of+Capitalism&lg_topic=libgen&open=0&view=simple&res=25&phrase=1&column=def


 No.2881866

Reposting this here from the duplicate thread

>>2881778

>the claim Galileo made were backed by scientific and mathematical facts

Not a /pol/yp, but the Galileo affair is generally overblown and misinterpreted by liberals hard. It's a lot more complex than "Church vs Science" and more of "This group of scientists with different models vs this group of scientists" (there were multiple heliocentrists) with one being very insistent of his model that, while in retrospect the conclusion of is correct, the reasoning for is flawed. It's a debate between "Aristotelianism vs Neo-Platonism" if anything, with Heliocentrists arguing that the Sun lay at the center of the universe (both models thought their respective "objects" lay at the center) because it was "nobler" and occupied a form higher than that of the earth (Neo-Platonism) and the Geocentrists arguing that the earth was the center as Aristotle did. For example, one of the critical points of this debate was "why did objects move towards the earth when dropped?". For the geocentrists this was easy, the objects fell towards the earth because the earth was the center and things tend to move towards the center from the Aristotelian view. For the Heliocentrists this was a bit more difficult of a question, with many including Galileo himself just defaulting to the idea that physics was pseudo-universal, and didn't apply to every situation, and others just going full on back to the idea of Plato's forms. The next was the reason for the tides. The geocentrists believed the moon was the cause of the tides (correct, but like the geocentrists, for the wrong reasons) while Galileo thought it was because of the earth's movement around the sun, using the example of a filled barrel of water in a moving cart. At the end of the day though, the church was largely based on Aristotelian ethics so had a bias towards the geocentric model, but it did accept other models (of which there were at least 7 of) that showed themselves as hypothetical and debated them as such. The problem with Galileo is that he was very insistent on being correct, and so alienated all of his associates as a consequence including the Pope who was his largest benefactor. Many of the major actors who called for his investigation weren't evenPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


 No.2881874

>>2881764

I wouldn't worry too much about stuff like the Holodomor or the gorillion accusation, all that you need for this:

- Stalin wasn't a monster who wanted to exterminate the Ukrainians (all historians agree on this)

- UK demanded grain instead of roubles for machines

- there was Kulak sabotage, drought and also mismanagement

This together with the fact that many other socialist countries which collectivized their agriculture and never had a famine proves that this is not a systemic problem of Marxism. Even if some secret document of a local official of the Ukrainian chapter of the CPSU showed up saying that the regional authorities wanted to punish the Ukrainians: So what? This isn't a systemic problem of Marxism because collectivisation ipso facto doesn't cause famine. Period.

The thing with historical events is that we simply weren't there, and since they are shrouded in propaganda from both sides, it's impossible for us 80 years later to figure out what really happened. There was no internet and phone cameras at that time, so we probably have a better picture of what's going on in Venezuela right now here on /leftypol/ than any journalist who documented the events in the USSR in 1932/33. The same is true for any event that occurred in a propaganda war without modern communication technology, even Nazi Germany.

Do you watch Paul Cockshott? He's a pretty good spookbuster by putting Marxist claims to the test with statistics and excel tables.

Neoliberal elites have the advantage of what is usually called "institutional evidence". If you live in a system that constantly pumps out evidence to reproduce and justify itself, it's hard to attain an outside perspective. If you lived in the USSR you probably had doubts about capitalism as well because Soviet economics departments were designed to produce evidence to make socialism look good.


 No.2881898

File: 13a3538720db4ff⋯.mp4 (271.72 KB, 480x360, 4:3, READ NIGGA READ.mp4)

File: fc53f14eaa57d3c⋯.pdf (218.49 KB, Marx - Critique of the Got….pdf)

File: 5a6c136f003ab39⋯.pdf (521.89 KB, Marx - Value, Price, and P….pdf)

File: cfa609fd479a363⋯.pdf (221.02 KB, Marx - Wage Labor and Capi….pdf)

Keep learning. Don't worry about having the "right" ideology or whether or not this or that socialist experiment were good boys. Don't be afraid of someone having information to add to your knowledge base. Don't be afraid of being "wrong" (it's an opportunity to learn more and improve your knowledge and opinions).

>I’ve started to think that for every viewpoint we see in these medias, there must be a deep (but untold to be easily consumed by readers) explanation behind it and if many people support an idea, then there’s a reason for it, right ?

Yes, there is a reason for it. That doesn't mean the reason is that the idea is correct. It's probably that someone has an interest in encouraging people to believe it.

>That’s one of my problem with Marxism, why is it that this school of thought is so ostracized from academics and economics institutions ?

Because academics and economics institutions are institutions of power, Marxism critically analyzes that in ways that empower workers, and that is a direct threat to these institutions.

>I have the impression that Marxism is maybe too “philosophical” in the sense that it is less rational than the modern neo-liberal thoughts that are deeply calculated and embraced by so many countries

Nation states don't embrace what is true. They embrace what supports their interests.

>How can Marxism which is 150 years old compete with more recent and over-worked economics models which had the advantage to be calculated through the use of computers ?

It's a critique of how capitalism works more than a new economic system unto itself. The principles of capitalism haven't changed. The system has just increased in its development/spread in the last 150 years. Socialism is at some rhetorical/ideological disadvantage because of its relative lack of development and experimentation (far fewer examples to draw from than capitalism), though.

>I heard some people saying that once they learned about Marxism they couldn’t go back because it was “closer to the truth”, but if it was really the case, wouldn’t more people support it ?

Because 99% of peoplePost too long. Click here to view the full text.


 No.2882011

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>>2881764

I understand what you are going through, deprogramming is difficult after being surrounded by propaganda for such a long time. The important thing when exposed to any new information is to ask yourself three questions. First "What evidence is there to support this?". Second "Is there any information that is being left out that may change the meaning of this?". Third "Who benefits from this?". The third question is especially important. The viewpoints that people adopt are general a result of the material conditions that they are in. For instance, take people who work in economics departments. There is a material incentive for them to adopt an ideology that benefits the capitalist class. Here is the proof.

>Most economists can not get their stuff into the top journals, leaving the gravy train of pay and fame to a small elite of Nobel prize winners. A few top economists got high pay, good jobs and tenure and the same people got their papers in the top five journals and often not on merit.

>Of the 537 people who have held American Economic Association office since 1950, for example, 51.1 percent got their doctorates at the University of Chicago, Columbia, Harvard and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. One-third of the members of the Council of Economic Advisers have had doctorates from MIT. Elite-level economics has become a quite exclusive club.

>But economists in general are not really hard done by in the wider scheme of things. They generally get paid better than most other academics and other ‘professions’ – at least in America. Indeed, the latest data at ASSA show that newly appointed economists in American academia could expect way more than in most jobs and even most ‘professions’ – starting salaries in the US ate $80-120k. And even more is paid to economists who go into banking and the world of Goldman Sachs.

Modern economics is an apologia not a science. For this wasteful and unproductive exercise, economists are paid relatively well compared to occupations that provide things and services that most people actuallyPost too long. Click here to view the full text.




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 No.2879098[Reply]

TIL: all of the kings of europe and russia were first cousins with each other.

think about that. the ruling class "nationalists" of the most powerful empires on the planet were all fucking cousins of the same family.

how deep does generational wealth under capitalism go? why do right wingers have the illusion that we live in a world where "the harder you work the better off you will be"?

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 No.2881960

>>2879997

Or be given a handjob from someone with those hands


 No.2881970

>>2879828

Multiple generations of first-cousin marriage is very much a problem.


 No.2881988

>>2879105

I mean, technically everybody with European ancestry is related to Charlemange (and by extension, all European monarchs from the early medieval period) sooooo


 No.2881991

File: c905b761ca131d8⋯.webm (2.97 MB, 1790x1080, 179:108, 1486203535529.webm)

i want to fuck my cousin




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 No.2881940[Reply]

I wanna learn more about Stalin, but I want as objective of history as I can get. How is this book by Kotkin? Can I expect to get everything? The good, the bad, and the ugly? Can I expect muh 69 bajillion, or an honest view of Stalin as a leader?

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 No.2881950

>>2881946

Okay, thanks!

One of the reviews noted that he was skeptical about Joe's shitty childhood. From what old soviet documents reveal, apparently his dad beat the fuck out of him when he was a kid.

In addition, he also robbed banks and held rich people hostage to fund the bolshevik revolution. Is this true?

And one more thing. Can Stalin really be called a dictator? Sure he had a lot of power, and I don't doubt he had a shit ton of people executed, but isn't one of the qualifications for a dictator that hes not appointed, and hes in control of literally everything?

If the soviet union had a council of representatives, and they appoint the guy to his position, and apparently he actually tried to step down a few times, but they kept voting him back in…. What i'm saying is, that hardly fits the narrative of an omnipotent godking.


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 No.2881978

>>2881950

He's critical about trying to attribute Stalin's paranoia or brutality on his child gang or abuse, since most georgians were beat as kids.

Yes, nearly all accounts have Stalin either participating in the Tiflis robery or a key planne

Stalin was in control of literally everything, he sat at the very top of an intricate pyramid of both state and party hierarchies. The soviet union having practicing democracy doesn't change this, especially since Marxism doesn't see Dictatorship and Democracy as mutually exclusive. being unappointed has never been a criteria of dictator, Cincinnatus was appointed dictator in 439 BCE.


 No.2881982

File: 542dcaf55cbc5dd⋯.pdf (3.87 MB, Dictatorship_and_democracy….pdf)




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 No.2872827[Reply]

>“We will no longer grant exemptions,” Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said in announcing that current sanctions waivers to the five nations would expire on May 2, clearing the way for American economic penalties against all companies or financial institutions that continue to take part in transactions linked to buying Iranian oil.

>By withdrawing from the 2015 Iran nuclear deal, and phasing in sanctions, the Trump administration has sought to cripple the Iranian government and weaken the power of its ruling clerics. Mr. Pompeo said Iran has earned about $50 billion annually from oil sales, accounting for as much as 40 percent of government revenues.

This is some serious shit. In 2017, trade between the EU and Iran was about 21 billion Euros. Iran is a huge trading partner with the EU. If the US is serious about this, this could have severe ramifications for US-EU relations. Not to mention the affects this could have on the global economy, as well as the horrific consequences that this will have for the Iranian people.

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 No.2873185

>>2872929

US intervention won't stop the mass killing of communists.


 No.2879128

>>2872929

You can be critical of Iran, it's clearly not a socialist state, it's a mixed economy with a state-capitalist sector and a national bourgeoisie which is seeking foreign investments and has therefore introduced a bit more austerity under Rouhani. They have also brutally crushed communists in the past, and still oppress them (although not as physically anymore, in general the Ayatollahs have shown some compromise, for example in the question of women in leading positions and transsexual folk), but it is mandatory for communist to oppose any economic, political or military intervention in an independent, non-aligned state that seeks to use their natural resources for development and the welfare of its people.

Gaddafi has also persecuted communists, but he was also objectively the better choice - the only anti-imperialist secular leader in the Orient who doesn't oppress communists seems to be Assad.


 No.2879129

>>2879128

I forgot to say: The Tudeh Party in Iran, a communist party, is outlawed and in diaspora in Germany and Britain, however, they came out with a surprisingly nuanced and intelligent stance towards the protests in Iran that happened last year. They very well acknowledged that while some of these protests are an expression of genuine grievances amongst the people, it is very likely that these protest will be hijacked by Western imperialism. So Persian communists already admit that the situation is tricky and must be carefully analysed.


 No.2879137

Accelerationism Gang


 No.2881976

>>2872827

seem like a good way to hasten the end of the dollar. pretty dumb move tbh




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 No.2881171[Reply]

I'm not a brainlet who can't make head nor tail of political/social texts but I can't help but feel I lack some foundational knowledge that would make reading them more engaging and give me more of those moments where you link information from multiple sources you remember together and paint a larger overall picture. It's a similar feeling to reading technical literature that has a mix of stuff you're comfortable with and slightly unsteady on, which ends up being kind of offputting even if you can learn from it.

Anyway back to the subject, are there any good books that aren't necessarily groundbreaking but lay a good basis for further reading when it comes to social issues? I'm most interested in books addressing politics, history, mass psychology and similar issues that give more insight into how society works.

 No.2881269

File: 06b75c2c90a458e⋯.jpg (182.65 KB, 1260x748, 315:187, ¡No_pasarán_Madrid.jpg)

My favorite 101 brainlet introduction to communism are this three short texts by Lenin. They are easy to understand and can be read without effort, but explain the core tenents of marxism in a concise manner while giving a historical context to them.

>Karl Marx

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/granat/index.htm

>Frederick Engels

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1895/misc/engels-bio.htm

>The three sources and three component parts of marxism

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1913/mar/x01.htm

Engels' Principles of Communism is also a good introductory read (better than the Manifesto imo)

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm

A good foundation on dialectical materialism is Elementary Principles of Philosophy by Georges Politzer, and it's also easy to read.

http://booksdescr.org/item/index.php?md5=a6fe6a6176d1d07813daf95c7cc16f0a

And a good source to build some knowledge on marxian economics is any of the many manuals and courses on political economy that you can find on the net. This one is by the economist Alexei Leontiev.

https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.24578/page/n1

History is something too vast to recomend a single book, but you can try by searching "people's history of" whatevPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


 No.2881868

>>2881171

Bread Book and Mutual Aid

Then the Spook book


 No.2881885

File: b68ba53522b5918⋯.png (405.81 KB, 492x510, 82:85, hYtvXyn.png)

There's this absolutely massive reading list with descriptions that I'm using:

https://www.scribd.com/document/143368029/Communism-Reading-List

It's the best and most well-rounded one I've come across.




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 No.2881771[Reply]

Charles Darwin > Karl Marx

Here is why:

Humanity is mixed.

We are all products of Interracial.

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 No.2881786

>>2881784

This is the largest act of niggerism i've witnessed.

Interracial is good if it's mexicans (me) with cute jewish girls.


 No.2881801

>>2881784

Is there a more annoying position to take than not taking a position then smugly declaring yourself smart?


 No.2881814

King of the Hill > South Park

Imagine your show declining after 10 seasons


 No.2881854

Darwin literally influenced historical materialism, you dumb fuck

Just duckduckgo "site:marxists.org inurl:archive/marx darwin"


 No.2883729

>>2881786

white nat here

I could not agree more with that combination.




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 No.2881538[Reply]

Newly elected Ukrainian President Zelensky backs anti-Russia campaign

Just over a week after being elected President of Ukraine with over 70 percent of the votes, comedian Volodomyr Zelensky has backed new anti-Russian legislation and sparked a public conflict with Moscow over the granting of Russian passports to Ukrainian citizens.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/05/02/ukra-m02.html

Spanish far-right party’s anti-LGBT tweet makes star of tiny gay ghost

A few hours after the polls opened in Spain’s general election last Sunday, the far-right Vox party attempted to recruit author JRR Tolkien’s fighter to its cause, tweeting an image of the character Aragorn in Peter Jackson’s 2003 film The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King with the caption, “Let the battle begin!”Having slapped the party’s logo on the warrior’s cloak, Vox lined Aragorn up against the jumbled ranks of its own many and varied enemies: communists; anarchists…. rainbow-hued ghost intended to represent LGBTQ people.

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/US-to-Fully-Apply-Helms-Burton-Act-Against-Cuba-From-Today-20190502-0008.html

India wants Pakistan blacklisted after UN names militant leader a global terrorist

India has welcomed the UN blacklisting of militant leader Masood Azhar and said that its next step will be to call for action against Pakistan itself for failing to stop terrorism financing.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/india-pakistan-masood-azhar-terror-un-jaish-e-mohammed-kashmir-a8896421.html

First World War mustard gas leaks from Belgian underwaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.2881582

Based Comrade CIA man.


 No.2881603

OP/ED

Chesa Boudin Wants to Transform San Francisco’s Criminal Justice System

In the race for San Francisco District Attorney, Chesa Boudin’s opponents are all classic candidates for the job.Nancy Tung is a career prosecutor whose campaign focuses on a tough-on-crime approach to gun violence, at a time when gun crime in the city is historically low. Leif Dautch has progressive rhetoric, coupled with a traditional prosecution and law enforcement background and a raft of endorsements from moderate politicians. And Suzy Loftus is an establishment law-and-order Democrat who once participated in an effort to award medals of honor to police officers who were under investigation for brutality.Boudin is the only candidate who has ever defended a person accused of a crime.He also might be the only candidate who’s ever visited a loved one behind bars: his parents, Kathy Boudin and David Gilbert, were arrested in connection with a fatal armed robbery when he was a baby. Boudin was raised by his parents’ friends, former Weather Underground members Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn.Jacobin’s Meagan Day spoke to Boudin about his vision for criminal justice reform, how his family history and childhood experiences shaped his political worldview, and the role of democracy in building a mass movement to end economic and racial inequality.

https://www.jakkkobinmag.com/2019/05/chesa-boudin-san-francisco-district-attorney

https://archive.is/XtRmo

Media collusion to censor Christchurch mosque shooter trial is understandable… and deeply sinister

Opposing New Zealand’s press restrictions on the coverage of Brenton Tarrant’s trial is not some abstract free speech argument, it’s about reining in a media that thinks it knows what’s best for the public.

The country’s five major media corporations responsible for the coverage of the proceedings against the man accused of killing 50 people during the March 15 shootings at two Christchurch mosques, haPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


 No.2881616

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thanks news anon


 No.2881639

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>>2881538

>'No Options Left, Nationwide Strike in June': Brazilian Workers, Brazil's most powerful trade union federations announced Wednesday that a nationwide strike will be carried out on June 14 to reject the far-right President Jair Bolsonaro and halt his neoliberal policies, which are destroying the people's most basic economic, social, cultural and political rights

fucking finally


 No.2881697

>>2881639

Unfortunately, more than half of brazilian workers are "informal", without any union representation. CUT's servitude to Lula and non-stop slander from the media made the middle class see them as "bums".




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 No.2881011[Reply]

I've been looking for good books on the subject but can only find capitalist propaganda (if anything; usually my searches turn up nothing at all in the way of English books). Are there any translated books that tell the story of the Russian Civil War in depth?

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 No.2881103

>>2881011

/his/ mega in the book thread has material


 No.2881104

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>>2881102

For some reason the image doesn't show up.


 No.2881105

>>2881102

I enjoyed it


 No.2881111

>>2881104

Figes is too much of an anticommunist for me.


 No.2881531




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 No.2881475[Reply]

gay oysters

illegal parking meters

college reform

guys, is this /our/ guy?

 No.2881478

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his open campus plan sounds like itll cripple colleges which i bet they wouldnt want to happen




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 No.2881445[Reply]

All rich capitalists are evil porkies that invariably exploit the working cla-

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 No.2881466

>>2881465

Capitalism makes you fund people who go and commit mass genocide.


 No.2881469

>>2881466

sounds good


 No.2881533

>>2881445

But you will going bananas after one week work on ford assembly line.


 No.2882150

here is a short fact check for those claim https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/09/viral-image/does-8-hour-day-and-40-hour-come-henry-ford-or-lab/ or to just quote the ending of it "The claim contains some element of truth but ignores critical facts that would give a different impression, so we rate it Mostly False"


 No.2885363

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Reminder that Ford is the one great authentic Marxist of the 20th century




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 No.2881346[Reply]

THE STATE IS AGAINST YOU

And they're always watching.

/pol/ has had a lot of success with the "formless collective" strategy and I think we should embrace it too. The idea is simple:

>Never be specific - don't talk about doing something on a specific day or talk about specific targets

>Do not coordinate with anyone, assume everyone that wants to get in contact with you might be a spook. This doesn't mean you can't have ☭TANKIE☭ friends, but that your relationship should be a personal one, not a political one.

>Use moderates as cover, the more people that embrace violent rhetoric the better since the people who won't actually do anything will just be a distraction for any spooks trying to monitor anyone suspicious.

>Propaganda is more important than anything, it can't be legally shut down and even if there was no freedom of speech it's still very difficult to control.

>Make life difficult for spooks. Use encryption to talk about movies with your dad, shitpost over Tor/VPN, and use a smaller email provider that they won't likely have direct access to. They could still try and monitor you through all that but it will take a ton of resources which will have been diverted from somewhere else.

And now for the real topic of the thread: what services would be good for this? I'm no expert but here's some starting points:

>Signal - SMS replacement with encryption

>Keybase - Slack/Discord replacement with encryption

>Riseup - (ancom?) email provider that seems autistic about security. They also have a free VPN if you can manage to get accounts

>Private Internet Access - paid VPN with encryption

>MEGA - Cloud storage with encryption

>Tor browser bundle - web browser with great security defaults, uses Tor obviously

I've been using all of these except Riseup since I don't have an invite code, does anyone herePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.2881352

>Do not coordinate with anyone

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add ProtonMail to your list, encrypted email services hosted in Switzerland


 No.2881355

Wow I can't wait to have this thread again!

Seriously you faggots watch one Julian Assamge or Edward snowden interview and it blows your mind so hard that you rush here to post about how much of a cool techie you are as if we haven't discussed this to death and know literally everything about it


 No.2881362

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honestly if you guys want the success of /pol/ you just need to fucking advertise this place and then not give a fuck and post whatever.

/pol/ had a huge influx during the 2016 election because they were shilled and referenced to death on /r/the_donald and so it became this kind of taboo or secret club that you were cool if you were part of. just do that shit during the democratic primary and name drop /leftypol/ on lefty and anarchist subs.

you get a tradeoff of people just straight shitposting, but shit activity is better than no activity, and if no one hears your embrace of violent rhetoric does it even fucking matter?

the fact is the right is pretty well consolidated between /pol/ and a collection of subs. because of that they're able to disseminate memes and psyops effectively. it takes just a few days for a meme to go from dropping on /pol/ to being in fairly wide usage in normie spheres like twitter and youtube.


 No.2881467

>>2881362

pol came from Nazi to predominantly pro Zionist neocon by the end of that.

I don't want to suffer the same fate.


 No.2881705

i know this thread is anchored but i yould just like to add that OP is a fag and everything he posted is a honeypot thank you




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 No.2881284[Reply]

My name is Rose Shengmei Chisholm. Always throw a chair at a mass shooter. In United States, there are more chairs than people. I stunned the gunman for 5 seconds so my husband could shoot him, but someone else could have shot him. Everyone had a gun. Because I am an invisible person (fat Asian woman), I was able to drag the chair 50 ft without the gunman noticing.

https://www.chron.com/houston/amp/Man-shot-arrested-after-aggravated-robbery-of-13485680.php

Every public place has a suicidal person dreaming of being a hero. It worked really well for me before the Irish mob came after us. I am a scientist with two masters from Texas A and M (easy to verify). I had a theory about mass shooting which is obviously impossible to test in the lab setting. So I sat in a McDonald's for Central Americans for 5 years to test my theory. Got banned from McDonald's afterwards.

There are members of the Houston Police Department that are in the Irish mob. I am attaching a conversation with Detective Blanco for context. https://clyp.it/l24huw2a

Nobody is this incompetent, therefore it must be deliberate. Please save this link. HPD deletes my posts quickly. HPD has a policy of not interacting with the troublemakers. If you share this, they will leave you alone. God told me to take them down.

Be as mean as possible. I can take it. Controversy sells. This information needs to be out there.

 No.2881286

invisibility is not possible in humans according to the laws of physics fuck you


 No.2881287

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>>2881284

>Because I am an invisible person (fat Asian woman)


 No.2881298

>>2881284

based schizoposter


 No.2881305

>>2881287

>>2881286

NOBODY SUSPECTS THE FAT ASIAN WOMAN


 No.2881333

>I had a theory about mass shooting

Throw chair at terrorist. That's your theory?

>So I sat in a McDonald's for Central Americans for 5 years to test my theory.

You sat at McDonald's for five years in order to throw a chair in an appropriate situation?

>Got banned from McDonald's afterwards.

??? What did they say? "Well, you saved lives, but chairs cost money." ??? And what does this have to do with the left? I'm in a union and we have tried for years to get better wages. Should I start throwing chairs? I haven't tried that yet and we have quite a few at work.




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 No.2873344[Reply]

What if Religion doesn't wither away but simply changes under Communism as it did under capitalism?

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>>2880928

ThAt WaSN"t ReAL ChrIStIaniTy


 No.2880940

Atheism is declining because the material conditions that give rise to religion are re-emerging, ie, that the world is getting far more shitty very quickly. This phenemoneon, however coincides with the growth of the proletariat as an independent social force and will give rise to the group that will end the material conditions which give rise to religion, thereby eliminating it entirely.


 No.2880942

>>2880920

First world countries are the most socially liberal, and in effect, the least reactionary on average. If you think a typical third world military dictatorship is less reactionary than a first world liberal democracy your an idiot.


 No.2881250

>>2880917

>Someone has to decide what constitutes repetition, impose it on changing conditions.

Traditions happen organically no one sits down and says "this is going to be a tradition now"

>Also, I think "ritual" is a better word for what you're describing here. A tradition doesn't need to be an event

semantics

>Are you in support of traditional medicine as well? If your son gets sick, do you poke holes in him to let the excess blood flow out?

You actually like modern hospitals?

Oh well you can thank the catholic church for that one.

>These traditions were just as significant as what would eventually become Catholicism.

source?

>If small cults are irrelevant to the whole of Christianity, I guess that Jesus Christ and his disciples are irrelevant to it as well. It's a dumb claim.

lol you're just mad here.

>If you pick a random person out of a crowd, you have a chance of one in ten that they have a master's degree. This isn't "incredibly more educated,"

And if you pick a random person out of a crowd you have a 9 in 10 chance they do not have a masters degree

You keep proving me right.

>This isn't "incredibly more educated," it's somewhat more educated at most. That said, I don't think going to college has much to do with your general level of education, sorry. Being educated has more to do with seeking out and retaining information yourself than with passing through institutions. There are plenty of ignorant assholes with master's degrees.

Your opinion on the university system is irrelevant. My point was that priests are much more educated than than the average person and you keep throwing stats proving me right.

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 No.2881251

>>2880940

The world is better than it ever has before




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