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 No.610297[Reply]

There are quite a few people here who would consider themselves in favour of direct democracy on localised scales. I am myself, even after hearing this criticism, but I just wanna hear some anarchists' responses to the criticism- can you still defend completely localised direct democracy after hearing it? Genuinely interested. I don't feel like I am able to defend a complete lack of centralisation for fear of instability in the region at this point. Maybe will even have to start supporting the idea of a centralised vanguard .

>People don't have the time nor energy to spend being always active in politics

>No anarchist region focused on direct democracy by local confederates has survived for more than 2 months

>Small scale operations don't have the capacity for fast, efficient action.

How would you respond to this? Ty.

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 No.611889

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 No.611891

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denk u


 No.611910

>>611853

>Laws are a spook.


 No.611913

>>611910

my gott.


 No.611935

>>611868

spoliler is just two asterisks side by side on either end of your text. no spaces required




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 No.601604[Reply]

TIL that Mother Teresa (who is going to be ordained as a saint by Pope Francis) once visited the grave of Hoxha and laid a wreath of flowers on his tomb.

Wat?

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 No.605506

>>605252

It's probably better if you've never seen a nun in your life.


 No.605643

>>605428

Mormonism is only insane because it's new. It's not like other religions make much more sense at face value either.


 No.605651

>>602750

>YT series on it

Does it reload?


 No.605968

>>605428

Don't mormons practice polygamy and send lots of their men away so the church (cult) top can fuck all the women?


 No.611932

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Re-reading it again… Still funny!




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 No.606672[Reply]

What conspiracy theories does /leftypol/ believes in?

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 No.611794

I don't need to spend time looking into conspiracy theories, capitalism is the biggest conspiracy of them all. All other conspiracies, including all imperialistically driven ones, are products of this one.


 No.611802

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 No.611805

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>>610619

>For example: from our logical capacities and powers of observation it is obvious that there is no god, that Jesus did not rise from the dead, that people don't fly off to live in the clouds when they die but they actually die, and so forth. We don't need to uncover a conspiracy theory to realize that this is BS, we just need to observe reality, think logically

People don't abandon their belief in divine powers because they logically see it was untrue, if that was the case we would have had mass-secularism a thousand years ago. The West abandoned Christian beliefs and institutions as the bedrock of modern society because they were seen as roadblocks for the progress of capitalism and liberal democracy. Protestantism was essentially Christianity modernized for the age of capitalism, so that you could have your religious comforts not interfere with your labor and waste precious time not producing. The same principle was behind the separation of church and state, it wasn't because people suddenly realized that God was a stupid idea or something, the dynamics of capitalism didn't want to be restrained by the dogmas of the Church being in-bedded in government and making decisions based on the Bible instead of bourgeois economic interests.

>>611794

>capitalism is the biggest conspiracy of them all

This, capitalism has created its own secular mythologies and rituals to replace the ones of Abrahamic religions. The desire for constant profit is the god of the current age, and it has not yet been slain.


 No.611866

>>611805

I desire Yui, not profit.


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>>611805

I believe that the reason the "All Seeing Eye" features so prominently in conspiracy theories is exactly because it appears on the dollar bill. On a subconscious level, conspiracy theorists know that capital itself is the secret ruler of the world. They can't quite articulate this, so they begin to scrutinize the object itself for hidden meanings, always missing the obvious point that it's fucking capitalism, stupid.




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 No.611244[Reply]

What does leftypol think of Peronism and Argentina in general?

 No.611300

Bump


 No.611925

its shit




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 No.611490[Reply]

What is the best facial hair/style for a communist and why is it the "Lenin"

It literally screams "I'm a genius"

feel free not to disagree

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 No.611897

>>611870

tbh I think most 19th-early 20th century philosophers would fit in on chans


 No.611901

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>>611851

It sure does.


 No.611902

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I added this after I posted that one, I prefer it


 No.611905

>>611901

>implying zizek isn't a 10/10 qt 3.1415926535897923846


 No.611922

>>611902

not bad

will post this here & there

we can split the e-profit 50 50




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 No.606167[Reply]

Hey comrades, come and visit your allied left-wing board, >>>/freedu/ - dedicated to free educational resources!

Ask questions, answer questions, post educational material, and learn something new! We've got hundreds of free texts, videos, and links to other free educational sites. Come and get involved!

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 No.610993

Maybe this is the wrong thread, but what do you guys think about the state of education as an institution?


 No.611263

>>610993

This video pretty much sums up my views on the problems of the modern education system (in the West, anyway - and that is often a model for other systems in other parts of the world)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDZFcDGpL4U


 No.611458

bump


 No.611468

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 No.611917

Bump!




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 No.610671[Reply]

http://ideas.ted.com/skyscrapers-but-no-sewage-system-meet-a-city-run-by-private-industry/

Entirely privatised cities. Is there where Porky is going next?

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 No.610915

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>>610671

>Entirely privatised cities

I'm here to ask you a question. Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? "No," says the man in Washington, "it belongs to the poor." "No," says the man in the Vatican, "it belongs to God." "No," says the man in Moscow, "it belongs to everyone." I rejected those answers; instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Rapture. A city where the artist would not fear the censor; where the scientist would not be bound by petty morality; where the great would not be constrained by the small! And with the sweat of your brow, Rapture can become your city as well.


 No.611007

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>>610915

I chose… Crapture!

A city where the poo would not fear the loo, where the butthole would not be bound by petty toiletpaper, where the defecation would not be constrained by dignity! And with the sweat of your taint, Crapture can become your city as well!


 No.611020

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>>610671

>Is there where Porky is going next?

Not if I can help it.


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 No.611908

>>611020

nice improvized loo




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 No.608924[Reply]

http://planetearthliberation.blogspot.fr/2016/03/the-leading-light-communist.html

>This is a warning directed to activists and revolutionaries, particularly those residing in the North-American continent: if you value the safety and well-being of yourselves as well as that of your comrades, stay away from this organization. The Leading Light Communist Organization, who will henceforth be referred to by their chosen acronym, the LLCO, are a police front, or are working closely with the police vis a vis informant work, agent provocateur incursion within radical left groups and organizations, pig disinformation, psychological tactics and entrapment.

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 No.610889

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>>610820

roads

war

babyz

= success


 No.610895

File: 1458622317018.webm (4.78 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, unruhe navy seal copypast….webm)

POST YFW HE WAS RIGHT


 No.611069

>>610889

According to /pol/ yes.


 No.611115

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>>608926

RAF did nothin wrong.


 No.611907

>>610895

This never ceases to make me giggle like a schoolgirl.




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 No.611155[Reply]

ylyl commie version

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 No.611728

>>611485

idk how to feel


 No.611742

>>611728

Don't feel. Feel nothing.


 No.611783

>>611485

Makes me feel good


 No.611883

>>611189

this guy is hilarious but

>>611190

this guy is just plain fucking gross


 No.611893

>>611883

The first one we found out is a legit retard, the second one is probably a pervert.




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 No.611536[Reply]

In 1986 four Soviet embassy workers were kidnapped in Lebanon by Islamic extremists. The Soviets tried to negotiate but a few days later one of the captives was killed in cold blood. Within a few weeks though, the Soviets had secured the release of the other three hostages - how?

>According to Morris, the KBG determined the kidnapping to be the work of the Shiite Muslim group known as Hezbollah, or Party of God. This was the same radical pro-Iranian faction that figured so belligerently in the mass hostage-taking from the TWA airliner at Beirut Airport last June.

>Unlike the approach the United States used to resolve the TWA crisis, however, the Soviets did not bother negotiating with Hezbollah through Nabih Berri, Lebanon's justice minister and leader of the Shiite Amal militia.

>Instead, the KGB kidnapped a man they knew to be a close relative of a prominent Hezbollah leader. They then castrated him and sent the severed organs to the Hezbollah official, before dispatching the unfortunate kinsman with a bullet in the brain.

>In addition to presenting him with this grisly proof of their seriousness, the KGB operatives also advised the Hezbollah leader that they knew the indentities of other close relatives of his, and that he could expect more such packages if the three Soviet diplomats were not freed immediately.

Anyone who claims to be a Communist and yet finds excuses for the reactionary, violent, despicable religion that is Islam can fuck off back to /pol/ (after all, Hitler loved Islam!).

Stalin was right to abolish the Mosques in the Caucasus. The only thing these people understand is force.

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 No.611872

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 No.611878

>>611864

> WE ARE ARRIVING FRIENDO

:D


 No.611896

>>611688

That's absolutely the truth

t. european


 No.611909

We don't give two flying fucks about religious beliefs. It's the class that unites us, not some omnipotent paradoxical creation of the imagination. So whether it was a Christian, a Muslim or a Pastafarianist that pulled that shit, the dead relative treatment should take care of it unlike how pussy capitalists handle it.

Sidenote: Don't confuse communists and socialists with SJWs and liberal. We are completely indifferent to colour, race etc unlike the libtards.


 No.611921

>Being against Hizbollah

/pol/, your Ziocuck is showing




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 No.608817[Reply]

Can we agree, that while not single state ever has managed to achieve communism (which itself is stateless) countries like Soviet Union, Cuba and Vietnam deserve credit for achievments like

>Giving people quality and free education.Removal of illiteracy.

>Giving people quality healthcare. Cuba, for example, has higher life expectancy than USA.

>Electification and industrilasation. Awesome economic growth. Russian Empire was poor and backwards, Soviet Union was second largest economy in the world with fast growth.

>Scientific achievments. Soviet's did lot's of aweome stuffs in space industry.

>Decolonisation and third world aid. Soviet Union did provide much aid for many third world countries and did give many African people free quality education.

>Forcing capitalism in the west to achieve human face and inspiring people to fight for their rights more.

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 No.608915

>>608844

Yeah. You think seventy years is a long time when it comes to a nation/civilisation/empire/etc?


 No.609676

Bassed Finnish bolshevik made video about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5axVunzQSA


 No.609729

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>>608817

>Social Democracy with guns, the post


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 No.611833

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 No.611360[Reply]

ive been here for a few days and im reading several books on the left supplied by the lefties here, but ive yet to know your opinion on the war that happened in vietnam. why do you think the americans supplied the south to fight against the north, and why do you think the north won despite the south obviously having access to better weaponry and better trained soldiers?

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 No.611537

>>611531

trying to be nice doesnt mean hes bringing any good discussion. read the rules before you condemn me for anything.

>>518058

>/leftypol/ welcomes debate from non-leftists. Non-leftists frequently come here to ask questions and raise topics for debate. Board moderation here is more focused on maintaining a good board index, so non-leftists have to be on better behavior as OP than they do as participants in someone else's thread. If you aren't b8ing or shitposting, your thread is likely to stay up.

>There are a few posters here who believe that "national" socialism is or can be a leftist stance, but Useful Idiotism and Nazi are generally regarded as a joke here. You're better off being honest that Nazism is right-wing. Attempting to cloak your hatred for foreigners and other races in pro-worker rhetoric, or similar ploys, might get you banned.


 No.611545

>>611531

a nice righty is still a righty, and if he cant say anything other than "chinks are better than cambos" then he better gtfo


 No.611553

>>611531

>implying /leftypol/ didnt form because /pol/ was treating any lefties the same way nazis treat jews


 No.611759

>>611487

GUYS IGNORE THE BAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 No.611789

The south didn't have access to the proletarian spirit

jk it's just guerilla warfare being unpredictable




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 No.605683[Reply]

Anyone know of any decent leftist-themed sci fi?

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 No.611596

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>>605743

Psycho-Pass plays off as being leftist, but the whole 'let's just not change le system' ending of the first season is pure liberal ideology.

>>605963

This is a good example though. I'd also like to say that 80% of the cyberpunk books by William Gibson are also fairly leftist. Cyberpunk as a genre has always had this anarcho-communist leaning to it.

>>611565

>human nature

>tribal nature

Yeah, no thanks.


 No.611613

File: 1458664837710.jpg (1.3 MB, 2480x3056, 155:191, Marx Reloaded.jpg)

The Matrix is a labored metaphor for capitalist exploitation and ideology.

The Wachowskis even wanted an old bearded guy to play Morpheus.


 No.611724

>>605683

At first I thought your pic was supposed to be Soviet Back To The Future, but instead of a decadent DeLorean, he drives a Lada.


 No.611765

>>611596

Yuiposter is here? I haven't seen him in months.


 No.611777

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>>611613

>The Matrix is a labored metaphor for capitalist exploitation and ideology.

Honestly The Matrix is so vague that it can be considered to be a metaphor for any number of ideologies. There's a reason why libertarians, conspiracy-theorists and liberals always see what they want to see in that movie.

>>611765

I'm back baby, with a vengeance!




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 No.608854[Reply]

Nihilism is shit. Egoism is shit. Anarchism is shit. Communisms that aren't anarchist are especially shit. Mutualism is shit.

The only sustainable model is democratic libertarian (not LOLbertarian) socialism. Revolution or democratic election ultimately doesn't matter and probably varies by country, the most important thing is that you try it.

By the way, socialism is not your "aesthetic". We have to consider what's actually possible.

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 No.611719

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>>608854

>Anarchism is shit.

>Communisms that aren't anarchist are especially shit.

Nice cognitive dissonance babe.

>We have to consider what's actually possible.

Who are you to say what's possible or not? I thought that was the job of capitalist economists and pundits, not a leftist.

>>608886

>Porky has been defeated entirely in Switzerland.

ayy that's a good one

>>609194

>My understanding is there is heavy regulation.

As I recall, regulation does not a socialist society make. Or maybe I just had the wrong definition, of course, stuff about workers owning the means of production, that kind of silly talk.


 No.611720

>>608886

>We are already so close to that goal that Porky has been defeated entirely in Switzerland.

I've had lolberts use Switzerland as an example of a state with libertarian aspects.


 No.611738

Hello edgy OP. Care to actually contribute to the board or do you want to shit it up some more with posts that don't explain anything and just claim bullshit like "my position X is best"?

If not, may I suggest

>>>/gulag/


 No.611741

>>611719

Joining me for the tripfag revolution?

Daily reminder that culture is a spook.


 No.611859

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>>611719

>>611741

>tripfag revolution




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 No.611493[Reply]

Fellow leftcoms, are you part od some tendency ( or party or international ) ?

Are you sinthesists or councilists or communizationists… ?

Which leftcom thinkers inspired you most ?

Which theoretical works you consider most important ?

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 No.611543

>>611503

It's not neceseraly sectarian. It's to point put different tactics for the same cause and even same strategy. Of course I want all leftcoms to collaborate.


 No.611546

I'm not a left-com but I love our Serbian anarcho-trot comrade.


 No.611548

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>>611543

> It's not neceseraly sectarian.

> As long as it's between leftcoms


 No.611590

>>611493

Sinthesist

Paul Mattick and earlier Gilles Dauve also some works by Tony Cliff ( I no he is not a leftcom, but I love his analysis )

There are no leftcom groups in Serbia, so I am probably most ultra-left member and 'innerparty dissident' of Marks21 ( Trot/Cliffist group ),

Henri Lefebvre - The social production of space

Gilles Dauve - Eclipse and re-emergence of Communist Movement

Paul Mattick - Marx and Keynes: Limits of mixed economy

Gilles Dauve - When insurrection dies

>>611546

I love you too comrade.


 No.611736

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I'm lurking this thread




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