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 No.2883090[Reply]

Starting college on this September and thinking of in economics and i know im gonna get shit in the econ department for being a marxist so its it'll be really helpfully if you guys could recommend some books on Marxist i can reading during the summer to prepare

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 No.2883949

>>2883943

I live with my parents who make less than $50k combined a year because I still cannot afford rent and a car payment because burgerville


 No.2883970

>>2883949

Nice blog, fag


 No.2883973

>>2883943

>implying you're not an asshurt racecuck


 No.2883976

>>2883970

>/leftypol/ isn't proletarian

<poster is

>hurr nice blorg feg


 No.2883977

>>2883976

plz care about my personal life!




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 No.2883805[Reply]

do you support lgbt faggotness, multi-gendernesness and political corectness?

if so my friend you are not a communist, you're a retard

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 No.2884092

>>2883805

All idpol is garbage that ruins everything, including your piece of shit post.


 No.2885293

>>2883805

I support gay rights because women are worthless sluts and men are sexy gods! Fuck women and fuck yourself, you pussy-worshipping cuck!


 No.2887863

>>2883805

>do you support lgbt faggotness, multi-gendernesness and political corectness?

Yes, yes, and no.

>if so my friend you are not a communist, you're a retard

No you.


 No.2887872

He's right. There's a place for every race. And as you can see there is no white in that flag. There's no room for whiteness in future world


 No.2887875

Of course not.




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 No.2883425[Reply]

Tito`s speleology tours.

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 No.2883443

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>>2883425

that's gonna be useful, thanks


 No.2883447

>>2883443

I like to think I know enough history to het this meme but it escapes me.


 No.2883457

>>2883447

Croatian and Slovenian government are digging dead fascists and their collaborators from sinkholes, abandoned mines and underground caves and claiming that partisans are evil because they liquidated them without fair trial.


 No.2883788

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>>2883447

Basically during the war caves and mines have been used by all sides to dump bodies. So far, nothing strange, right?

In Italy those caves are called "foibe" and according to the fascist narrative (which became mainstream) MILLIONS of innocent Italians have been dumped there by EVIL communists partizans solely because of PURE racial hatred toward Italians. It's funny if you know how fascist Italians have treated slavs in occupied Jugoslavia.

As I said this was a fascist victimist narrative and a laughable one because no more than 200 bodies have been found inside those foibe and since they were fascists no one should give a shit, but this sort of "Italian holocaust" is commemorated every 10th February and have to put up with this bullshit every fucking year. See this picture? It's spammed in every newspaper, in every poster, in every website as a proof of titoist partizans executing Italians. Except that's a picture of a summary execution of slovenian citizens by Italian occupiers. Many know about this, but you can't go against the narrative of the "good Italians who dindu nuffin".


 No.2883802

I've been reading Milovan Djilas' memoirs of the partisan wars and it's pretty wild. Communists threw fascists off mountaintops, which they deserved. Very based IMO




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 No.2883752[Reply]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/05/media/stocks-trump-tariff-threat/index.html

STOKE THIS FEAR LEFTYPOL, WE MAY NOT HAVE A CRASH IN AMERICA BUT WE CAN CAUSE ONE IN ASIA.

 No.2883753

i wonder who could be behind this post


 No.2883773

As far as prospects of a Crash in China goes, I'm giving you a Quote of the economists Mark Blyth "They are communists, it'll get fixed, don't bet on it"


 No.2883865

The global marketplace is all too interconnected to be stable long term. If China's market crashes they're taking everyone with them.

But that said Xi isn't a moron so it'll be fixed long before it becomes a problem.




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 No.2883667[Reply]

I am an "international relarions' major in uni. What books should I read about the subject in addition to the reactionary shit taught in class?

 No.2883689

File: bedc2487dae6a2b⋯.pdf (5.05 MB, (Routledge Studies in the ….pdf)

Apologies for the relative slowness of the response. You won't find a great wealth of general primers for inter-governmental or communal relations here, but I always recommend more compendium like books such as pdf.related. If you're looking for more state-specific (USSR/Cuba/DPRK/etc) works, then you can specify either here or also over on /marx/, though it may be somewhat slow over there, and you can get more resources to help you out.


 No.2883699

Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, and Mao are a good start.

Then Fanon and whoever else is relevant. Generally speaking, most oppressed countries have a communist party or a revolutionary party, and those parties have literature and theorists. If you want to know what's going on in said countries, read their revolutionary literature.


 No.2883828

Read Blum/Parenti/Furr and then start sputtering and sperging out whenever the teacher brings up Eastern Europe or China.




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 No.2883569[Reply]

All western media is saying that China has concentration camps, putting people in there against there will, and up to 3 million muslims are in there.

Is this true? is there any way to dispell this? I am very skeptical of taking what the pentagon says as face value, does anyone have more context?

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 No.2883750

File: 7821c3ed6c4f3aa⋯.pdf (1.42 MB, Situation in Xinjiang, Chi….pdf)


 No.2883823

>>2883569

It is correct approach and I can prove it. What options there are:

- Multiculti, I won't even talk about it.

- Colonialism: live them to their own devices, while using soft meddling to ensure that their sultan is loyal and allows whatever exploitation Metropoly requires of them.

- Independence: let them go free (until in the next 5 minutes another power utilizes them against you)

- And finally, forced integration and uplifting, weeding out reactionary culture.


 No.2883825

>>2883710

https://player.fm/series/pixelrobot-on-huffduffer/radio-war-nerd-160

They've done a couple episodes on Uighur history too

>thread anchored

Dengist cowards


 No.2883981

>>2883825

All Chinese threads except important news get anchored because there's a containment thread. China did nothing wrong of course.


 No.2884460

>>2883825

>>2883750

Thank you, fams.




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 No.2883586[Reply]

My dad is berating me again for being a spoiled commie brat. Our arguments always devolve into "If you don't support whichever Democrat gets the nomination, you're selfish and people will get hurt." I have employed all my usual rhetorical strategies, but I want to really nail him with 'facts and logic'…with a NYTimes article or something he will trust. Gimme some new ammunition

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 No.2883599

>>2883593

i know i have too but i wanted to ask anyway


 No.2883603

>>2883597

this is pretty good, but i would rather send him something short n snappy


 No.2883937

>>2883603

You can bring a horse to water but can't make them drink.


 No.2884346

>>2883937

my dad is dumber than a horse


 No.2884493

Tell him to get his dick out of Pelosi cunt! That they are both the war party the economic slave party! that obama was basically bush if youve done these things idk




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 No.2883325[Reply]

why do the American right see her an some sort of conservative icon, did the hag actually accomplish anything apart from the "spending other peoples money" quote

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 No.2883392

Tounge and cheek conservativism

Demolished the IRA

Slashed taxes

Stronger woman than any liberal


 No.2883459

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>>2883392

>Demolished the IRA


 No.2883578

>>2883390

>>2883389

Wow… so this is the power of neoliberalism.




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 No.2883162[Reply]

Is there any point to reading Marxist theory beyond just a different lens to analyze society?

I get that ultimately Theory and Action are needed to end capitalism but I am talking about right now at the present time.

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 No.2883285

>>2883200

Prove that it's unprovable.


 No.2883290

>>2883200

It's a mental model that is useful to interpret reality. Newton's laws are mental models that are not universally true, but they are useful in a lot of contexts, and you *can* falsify Newton's laws of motion. Same with marxism. Marxism isn't gospel either, it is open for debate. There are few other holistic methods of analyzing capitalism, but they have shown to be insufficient in many ways, many times due to the fact that they are based on feels > reals. First understand marxian analysis to cure yourself of right wing memes.


 No.2883423

"The philosophers have merely interpreted the world, the point is to change it."


 No.2883430

>>2883226

tribalism


 No.2883439

>>2883430

>Asks for a society that isn't shaped by class conflict

>Names a form of society the ceased to exist due to the emergence of classes

I mean, kind of?




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 No.2873968[Reply]

Is there such a thing as good eastern philosophy? I've never been inspired to read it cause everyone I've ever known who says they like eastern philosophy just has platitudes and shit they recite. I'm not saying eastern philosophy is bad, I've just yet to be inspired to read it. Any thoughts?

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 No.2875300

>>2874963

I think Chad is one person, Qin Shi Huang. The word in his shirt could be understood as "Chad Qin"


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>>2874751

Just dropping this here.


 No.2882391

>>2874228

althusser was literally in an asylum when he wrote that id take it with a grain of salt


 No.2882392

>>2874487

Spinoza believed that basically everything was one substance, being god (or nature). This is similar to the vedantic deity in hinduism/pantheism where god=existence. Cockshott defines materialism as neo Epicureanism, meaning greek atomism updated for modern days. Rather that seeing everything as one thing, atomists like Epicurus saw the universe as being made up of at some level units of matter which were not further divisible.


 No.2883401

>>2874543

Based mouthbreather




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 No.2876567[Reply]

London calling to the faraway towns

Now war is declared and battle come down

London calling to the underworld

Come out of the cupboard, you boys and girls

London calling, now don't look to us

Phony Beatlemania has bitten the dust

London calling, see we ain't got no swing

Except for the ring of that truncheon thing

The ice age is coming, the sun is zooming in

Meltdown expected, the wheat is growin' thin

Engines stop running, but I have no fear

'Cause London is drowning, and I, I live by the river

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 No.2883522

>>2883521

New thread here: 2883514

fuck I'm retarded atm


 No.2883549

>>2883384

I know you're memeing lad, but just in case someone fucking says that I am saying Taxi Drivers aren't proles, I'm saying that the job itself isn't widely proletarianized, as in, there is a significant portion of Taxi Drivers who are not Proletarian. In fact, pretty much every other service sector transport job is MORE proletarian than Taxi driving.


 No.2883561

>>2883522

>>>2883515

There you go


 No.2883562

>>2883561

>>2883515

>tfw I'm an idiot

I could've sworn it was three to crosslink.


 No.2887878

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Gay




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 No.2881774[Reply]

is the conservative fetish for free speech a sham knowing the history of american conservationism they'll abandon it if they'll get back in power for example in William F. Buckley's "God and Man at Yale: The Superstitions of 'Academic Freedom' a founding text of the american conservative movement was ",he argues that alumni should use their financial power to force professors to teach Christianity and anti-Communism and went on to writing a book defending McCarthy

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 No.2882161

>>2882146

Conservatives are liberals.


 No.2883152

>is the conservative fetish for free speech a sham

yes


 No.2883161

>>2882147

There's not such thing as "right-liberals". Liberals are right wing Conservatives want a return to race based chattel slavery, which is a form of natural right.

Liberals are actually more right wing then conservatives are since they actually make everyone a prole, with no special exceptions for white people.

It's hilarious how much /leftypol/ caterwauls about identity politics when 99% of idpol is just special rights for white people.


 No.2883196

>>2883161

"A return to race based chattel slavery" isn't a conservative position. Chattel slavery has been officially defunct for over a hundred years now. Even a return to Jim Crow wouldn't be a conservative position. A conservative position would be in maintaining the preschool to prison pipeline etc. What you're describing is a reactionary position. They don't want to just maintain the status quo, but return to earlier circumstances.

>Liberals are actually more right wing then conservatives are since they actually make everyone a prole, with no special exceptions for white people.

That doesn't make the least bit of sense my dude

>It's hilarious how much /leftypol/ caterwauls about identity politics when 99% of idpol is just special rights for white people.

You are retarded my man.


 No.2883291

The whole notion of free speech under capitalism is rather absurd anyways since capitalist and state media can drown everything else out simply because they have they have the means to. That's not even to mention the history of censorship and repression of socialists in capitalist states. Free speech retards are often neo-McCarthyists anyways.

If capitalists say there is no such thing as a free lunch they should stop pretending there's a thing such as free speech.




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 No.2883245[Reply]

Just turned 18. Crossed into national socalist territory in my edgy 17th year but thankfully found the light. Can i get a beginners intro into leftypol? maybe some books?

>inb4 lurk moar

i plan on it

 No.2883255

The reading list thread has some beginner Marxist texts. If you're also interested in some anarchist literature I'd recommend looking into Kropotkin, Bakunin, and Goldman. If you only want to spend time on one I'd just stick with the Marxist stuff.


 No.2883256

just look at the pinned list


 No.2883261

>>2883255

>>2883256

Thanks for the quick responses fellas. ill take the advice


 No.2883269

Debt: The First 5000 years.

Capitalist Realism, is there no alternative?

The ABC of Dialectical Materialism

Value, Price, and Profit

The Origin of the Family

God and the State

Wealth of Nations

The Autobiography of Malcolm X

Black Skin, White Masks

First as Tragedy, Then as Farce

Why Socialism by Einstein

Why I Became a Socialist by Helen Keller

Jack London's why I became a socialist

What Is To Be Done?

As far as fiction goes there's

The Crab Cannery

Parable of the Sower

The Jungle

Grapes of Wrath

Les Miserables

Of Mice and Men

just off the top of my head


 No.2883271

can someone that saved them post the leftypol 101 images




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 No.2882472[Reply]

Sup guys. I'm kinda leaning towards left but there is some stuff I don't get yet. For example I know that corporations want to maintain status quo and basically that's why they deplatform radicals of all sorts (leftists included - btw can you give me an example of deplatformed leftist or vegan activists?), but why media tend to pay attention deplatforming of only right-wing radicals? Examples:

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/05/instagram-and-facebook-ban-far-right-extremists/588607/

Another thing I don't understand - why some corporations (google for example) create image of some left-liberal environment. Sometimes they even go overboard to maintain such an image but why they do such a thing? (Take Morgan Knutson story for example) To create an outrage against left-liberal agenda or something? Is it an example of recuperation of radical leftist ideas and watering them down to disarm them in a way? Do they do this to pit people against each other and distract from a real enemy? Is it real that google CEO's genuinely believe in inclusiveness and stuff? As I understand the only thing they genuinely interested in is increasing their capital.

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 No.2882605

Leftists get deplatformed constantly, it just isn't reported.


 No.2882686

The BDS movement is pretty left wing. Jimmy Dore was compared with being a terrorist by CNN for questioning the chemical attack in Syria. Watch Kyle Kulinski too. He's pretty good, and risks deplatforming for some of his views.


 No.2883163

>why media tend to pay attention deplatforming of only right-wing radicals?

so that you don't notice when Google does things like de listing wsws or truthout

the right says abhorrent shit because they're retarded, and no one has a problem with deplatforming people that call for the extermination of Jews or that women are intellectual children. that's what makes it the perfect cover in silencing people that want to end hunger and wealth inequality and stop corporations from profiting from endless war


 No.2883189

>>2882472

Deplatformed leftist? EZ, look at Louis farrakhan. He was included in the recent Facebook purge too. He's not actually a leftist but that's what right wingers will tell you.


 No.2889129

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>>2882472

Corporations publicly side with what the bulk of society believes to be the right thing to do to maintain a good image.




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 No.2883046[Reply]

What would happen if we started a commune? how would it work? how do we balance the egoist and the ☭TANKIE☭s?

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 No.2883150

We tried. It was called the Detroit Commune and we tried to organize it over irc, but it ended up disintegrating because everyone that was interested in doing it was scattered all across the planet.


 No.2883231

I was gonna protest stuff today

But then I got high

I was gonna make those fat pigs pay

But then I got high


 No.2883238

I think it would mostly last a week.


 No.2883655

Can someone explain to me how egoism is lefty?


 No.2883855

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>>2883046

Your main problem is economic viability, your goal is to minimize the amount of surplus capitalism can extract from the members of your commune.

If you just rush into this with naive pioneer spirit, you will just end up having to exploit your member like a regular business company.

If we look at your premise here, of pitting the "egoist" against "tan.kie" you are basically repeating the neo-liberal principle of extracting profit from conflict between groups, this will not work, You do not want to have any form of internal competition in your economic considerations




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